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Title: Immigration 'Diversion' for North American Union?
Source: CNS
URL Source: http://64.135.21.3/archives/ic/2007/6/18/80207.shtml?s=ic
Published: Jun 18, 2007
Author: staff
Post Date: 2007-06-18 09:15:07 by JCHarris
Keywords: WawuhOnTurrrrr, Constitution, Corruption
Views: 235
Comments: 28

From the http://NewsMax.com Staff For the story behind the story... Monday, June 18, 2007 7:53 a.m. EDT

Immigration 'Diversion' for North American Union?

The debate over illegal immigration is a "diversion" to distract Americans from government efforts to enter into a North American Union with Canada and Mexico, in the view of activists protesting in Washington, D.C., on Friday.

"The illegal alien problem is a mechanism for leveraging what is yet to come," Daneen Peterson, a researcher who studies the North American Union issue, said at the small rally, which drew about 40 protestors.

"Once the civil unrest and chaos caused by the overwhelming human tsunami of illegal aliens and MS-13 gang members reduces America to complete anarchy ... the federal government will institute martial law," Peterson said.

Peterson, a former university professor, predicted that martial law would then "allow the shadow government to step forward and visibly take over this country. They will use martial law to install a fascist One World Order, dictatorial government in plain sight instead of operating clandestinely as they do now."

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She accused the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), a foreign policy think tank, of designing and implementing a "shadow government" dedicated to uniting Canada, Mexico and the United States under one government.

"If you continue to believe that the illegal alien invasion is the biggest threat to America, you will never understand that there is something far more dangerous to our country called the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America," Peterson said, referring to the trilateral dialogue between the North American countries.

According to its government-hosted Web site, the SPP is a "trilateral effort to increase security and enhance prosperity among the United States, Canada and Mexico through greater cooperation and information sharing." Activists like Peterson, however, believe it is a step toward relinquishing United States sovereignty.

"Their goal is to destroy our constitutional republic," she said, repeatedly referring to the "shadow government" and a "cabal" of government officials conspiring to bring the U.S. into a North American Union. Peterson said the argument that three nations are merely engaging in dialogue is "a blatant lie."

The SPP website refutes allegations made by critics like Peterson. It says the conversations among leaders of the three nations "seek to make the United States, Canada and Mexico open to legitimate trade and closed to terrorism and crime. It does not change our courts or legislative processes and respects the sovereignty of the United States, Mexico, and Canada."

More bluntly, the site says the SPP "in no way, shape or form considers the creation of a European Union-like structure or a common currency. The SPP does not attempt to modify our sovereignty or currency or change the American system of government designed by our Founding Fathers."

Nonetheless, U.S. Rep. Virgil Goode, R-Va., in January introduced a sense of Congress resolution stating that the United States should not enter into a union with its neighbors to the North and South.

Goode addressed the rally Friday. He said the SPP "will send us on a glide path to the destruction of our sovereignty, and I always want the United States to be the best country in the world as it is today, and it won't be if we're part of a North American Union."

Robert Pastor, vice president of international affairs at American University and one of the leading proponents of a "North American Community," called Peterson's predictions "completely unrealistic" and "totally absurd."

"Every important initiative requires the consent of our elected officials. None of this can be done by stealth or in secret," he told Cybercast News Service.

"The idea that somehow or other they're going to wake up one day and George Bush will have stolen American sovereignty, or that I would have, or the Council on Foreign Relations, is totally absurd. That doesn't really require a serious conversation," Pastor said.

He called the North American Union a "straw man," explaining that "a union is a unified national state, so if you believe the North American Union, you would be in favor of dissolving the United States ... I don't know anyone who is proposing that."

Pastor said the North American community he envisions "begins with a simple premise, and that is that if our neighbors do well, we will do well. And if our neighbors have problems, we may not be able to contain them. It's a simple principle of interdependence."

"America's strength has always come from opening its doors and embracing and adapting the best in the world," he said. "We ought to continue to adapt our institutions to changes in the world, and that's what's required to advance our interests."

Addressing concerns that his plan would sacrifice American sovereignty, Pastor said the United States has "agreements with hundreds of countries, we belong to hundreds of international organizations. Every treaty we have involves us sharing some responsibility with other countries, sharing some power in the United Nations. That's the real world that we're in today."

But as Cybercast News Service has previously reported, Pastor is not optimistic that the leaders of the three nations are serious about working together to build the community.

"I don't anticipate any serious forward movement during this meeting," he said of a meeting between President Bush, Mexican President Felipe Calderon, and Canadian Prime Minister Stephen Harper scheduled for August.

"The fact they're having a meeting is a positive step and will offer the three governments a chance to hopefully move the relationship forward in a positive manner," Pastor said. "But having said that, my impression from consultations is that this is a very low priority in all three governments."

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#1. To: All (#0)

More bluntly, the site says the SPP "in no way, shape or form considers the creation of a European Union-like structure or a common currency. The SPP does not attempt to modify our sovereignty or currency or change the American system of government designed by our Founding Fathers."

Nonetheless, U.S. Rep. Virgil Goode, R-Va., in January introduced a sense of Congress resolution stating that the United States should not enter into a union with its neighbors to the North and South.

Goode addressed the rally Friday. He said the SPP "will send us on a glide path to the destruction of our sovereignty, and I always want the United States to be the best country in the world as it is today, and it won't be if we're part of a North American Union."

Robert Pastor, vice president of international affairs at American University and one of the leading proponents of a "North American Community," called Peterson's predictions "completely unrealistic" and "totally absurd."

I believe Goode.

He is acting against the Tribe's conspiracy and endangering himself by antagonizing the new owners and censors now in place in the former United States Government.

JCHarris  posted on  2007-06-18   9:17:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: JCHarris, all (#0)

"Once the civil unrest and chaos caused by the overwhelming human tsunami of illegal aliens and MS-13 gang members reduces America to complete anarchy ... the federal government will institute martial law," Peterson said.

I think we already have most of the components of martial law in place, JC. Decent inner city folk gated their windows and doors long ago and live by a self imposed curfew. Most working whites spend their nights inside watching the tube. I’ve seen mothers literally tether their children to their waist for fear of the unknown. Police departments do what they want, to whomever they want. They can stop us, search us and arrest us for simply having no insurance. Once someone is in the system, any pretense of our constitutional rights vanishes. If illegal immigration brings full blown martial law, it will be cheered by the neos and MSM talk radio, esp. if done by a Republican,

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-06-18   9:33:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Jethro Tull (#2)

I think we already have most of the components of martial law in place, JC.

Yes, and soon I expect tp see our homes hiding behind 12-foot concertina razor wire-topped fences as in Mexico, Puerto Rico, Costa Rica and the less civilized police states that are now the model for American replication.

In the system, brainwashed, cowed and hiding in their bank-owned homes...

the bars and fence comes next.

JCHarris  posted on  2007-06-18   9:42:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: JCHarris (#3)

hiding in their bank-owned homes...

Speaking of which, how many of these bravehearts actually own their cars? Many are either leased or 'purchased' with home equity lines of credit. Which leads me to believe the next growth profession will be "Repo Man."

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-06-18   10:07:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: JCHarris (#0)

She accused the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), a foreign policy think tank, of designing and implementing a "shadow government" dedicated to uniting Canada, Mexico and the United States under one government.

"If you continue to believe that the illegal alien invasion is the biggest threat to America, you will never understand that there is something far more dangerous to our country called the Security and Prosperity Partnership of North America," Peterson said, referring to the trilateral dialogue between the North American countries.

Great post. Exactly! Right on point. The danger to America has ALWAYS come from Washington, DC.

It should be pointed out that throughout the history of the United States, there has been an element within the ruling elite of the United States that has wanted control of Canada and of Mèxico. This theme runs through a lot of different versions and dates from the time of the original revolution in 1776 (as far as Canada is concerned).

Now, if Americans will begin to wake up to the fact that there are two national governments, the Republic, and the Democracy, maybe something can be done!

"If this were a dictatorship, it'd be a heck of a lot easier, just so long as I'm the dictator." December 18, 2000 President George W. Bush

The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.

richard9151  posted on  2007-06-18   12:21:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: JCHarris (#0)

He called the North American Union a "straw man," explaining that "a union is a unified national state, so if you believe the North American Union, you would be in favor of dissolving the United States ... I don't know anyone who is proposing that."

Just like the individual States of the United States still exist.

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Tauzero  posted on  2007-06-18   12:59:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: JCHarris (#0)

"Once the civil unrest and chaos caused by the overwhelming human tsunami of illegal aliens and MS-13 gang members reduces America to complete anarchy ... the federal government will institute martial law," Peterson said.

Peterson, a former university professor, predicted that martial law would then "allow the shadow government to step forward and visibly take over this country. They will use martial law to install a fascist One World Order, dictatorial government in plain sight instead of operating clandestinely as they do now."

And the dollar will collapse, the economy will crash, we'll all be forcibly microchipped, UN troops will patrol the streets, we'll be packed up in rail cars and sent to FEMA concentration camps.. blahblahblah.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-06-18   14:40:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: JCHarris (#0) (Edited)

debate over illegal immigration is a "diversion" to distract Americans from government efforts to enter into a North American Union

This article IMO is agitprop..disinformation...agent provacateur stype crap. It insinuates we should FORGET immigration "or else." This is a LIE. I can only wonder at the real agenda of the source/author. We do NOT have to accept one to defeat the other!

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IndieTX  posted on  2007-06-18   16:40:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Mister Clean (#7)

And the dollar will collapse, the economy will crash, we'll all be forcibly microchipped, UN troops will patrol the streets, we'll be packed up in rail cars and sent to FEMA concentration camps.. blahblahblah.

Mister Clean

Now you're beginning to get it BushBot !!

I knew you were just ALMOST brain dead!

JCHarris  posted on  2007-06-18   18:00:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: JCHarris (#9)

Now you're beginning to get it BushBot !!

Calling me a BushBot is an act of desperation on your part.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-06-18   20:28:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Mister Clean (#10)

Calling me a BushBot is an act of desperation on your part.


It's not Global Warming, it's Ice Age Abatement.

farmfriend  posted on  2007-06-18   20:30:51 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: farmfriend (#11)


I challenge you to browse through my posts at LP and find one single time I said anything good about Bush.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-06-18   20:37:07 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Mister Clean (#12)

I challenge you to browse through my posts at LP and find one single time I said anything good about Bush.

What do I care? You probably can't find one of my post where I gave any opinion one way or the other.


It's not Global Warming, it's Ice Age Abatement.

farmfriend  posted on  2007-06-18   20:40:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: farmfriend (#13)

What do I care?

Why did you post that graphic?

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-06-18   20:43:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Mister Clean (#14)

Why did you post that graphic?

To tease you.


It's not Global Warming, it's Ice Age Abatement.

farmfriend  posted on  2007-06-18   20:48:55 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Mister Clean (#7)

And the dollar will collapse, the economy will crash

That part I agree with.

Right now the war is proping it up still, but in time it will all come crashing down.

It's happened before.

Diana  posted on  2007-06-18   20:49:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: farmfriend (#15)

To tease you.

How touching.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-06-18   20:49:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Diana (#16)

That part I agree with.

Right now the war is proping it up still, but in time it will all come crashing down.

I was being sarcastic.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-06-18   20:50:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Mister Clean (#17)

How touching.


It's not Global Warming, it's Ice Age Abatement.

farmfriend  posted on  2007-06-18   20:51:11 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Mister Clean (#18)

I was being sarcastic.

I know that, I'm not that dense but I wanted to make a point about the economy.

Diana  posted on  2007-06-18   20:53:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: Mister Clean (#18)

Too trusting maybe though.

Diana  posted on  2007-06-18   20:56:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Diana (#20)

I know that, I'm not that dense but I wanted to make a point about the economy.

It's in nobody's interests for the US economy to collapse.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-06-18   20:56:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Mister Clean (#22)

It's in nobody's interests for the US economy to collapse.

It doesn't seem as if it would be (except for those countries who do not like us), however I think a lot of mistakes have been made that will lead to it collapsing.

Diana  posted on  2007-06-18   20:58:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Mister Clean (#22)

It's in nobody's interests for the US economy to collapse.

So, you have it that well-managed...

JCHarris  posted on  2007-06-18   21:48:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: JCHarris (#24)

So, you have it that well-managed...

That's right.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-06-19   12:22:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Mister Clean (#25)

So, you have it that well-managed...

That's right.

Mister Clean

Then you are a damned fool or a paid shill of shysters and moneychangers.

JCHarris  posted on  2007-06-19   22:21:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: JCHarris (#26)

Then you are a damned fool or a paid shill of shysters and moneychangers.

Is that you, mehitable?

If not, you two would get along great. You could both sit around all day bitching and whining.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-06-21   10:55:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Mister Clean (#27)

Asshole, I get more done for my surrounds and humanity in one day than you have ever accomplished in your life.

I detested you on LP and I detest you here.

Go get your paycheck, shill.

JCHarris  posted on  2007-06-22   2:01:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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