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Title: Ron Paul Excluded in Iowa
Source: Ron Paul Blog
URL Source: http://blog.ronpaul2008.com/ron_pau ... 8/2007/06/ron_paul_exclud.html
Published: Jun 19, 2007
Author: Kent Snyder
Post Date: 2007-06-19 17:57:28 by Eoghan
Keywords: None
Views: 678
Comments: 48

Iowans for Tax Relief and Iowa Christian Alliance will host a presidential candidates forum on Saturday, June 30th in Des Moines. Republican presidential candidates Mitt Romney, Sam Brownback, Jim Gilmore, Mike Huckabee, Tommy Thompson, and Tom Tancredo will participate.

Ron Paul, however, will not participate. Why? Because he wasn’t invited.

We heard about this forum from numerous supporters in Iowa who asked why Dr. Paul was not going to participate. Those supporters assumed that Dr. Paul was invited.

The campaign office had not received an invitation so we called this morning; thinking we might have misplaced the invitation or simply overlooked it. Lew Moore, our campaign manager, called Mr. Edward Failor, an officer of Iowans for Tax Relief, to ask about it. To our shock, Mr. Failor told us Dr. Paul was not invited; he was not going to be invited; and he would not be allowed to participate. And when asked why, Mr. Failor refused to explain. The call ended.

Lew then called Mr. Steve Sheffler, president of the Iowa Christian Alliance, to talk with him. Mr. Sheffler did not answer so Lew left a message. He has yet to respond.

Why are the Iowans for Tax Relief and the Iowa Christian Alliance excluding the one Republican candidate who scored at the top of every online poll taken after the MSNBC, Fox News, and CNN debates? Why are they denying Iowans the opportunity to hear from the Republican presidential candidate whose popularity is growing by the day?

We couldn’t get answers to these questions from Messrs. Failor and Sheffler. Maybe you’ll have better luck. Their contact information is below.

It's ironic that on the same day we learned the Iowans for Tax Relief and the Iowa Christian Alliance excluded Dr. Paul from their candidates forum, we received a call from ABC News confirming Dr. Paul’s participation in its nationally broadcast August 5th debate to be held in Des Moines.

Kent Snyder, Chairman Ron Paul 2008

Contact Information

Edward Failor Iowans for Tax Relief 2610 Park Avenue Muscatine, Iowa 52761 Phone: 563-288-3600 or 877-913-3600 Fax: 563-264-2413 E-mail: itr@taxrelief.org

Steve Sheffler, President Iowa Christian Alliance 939 Office Park Road, Suite 115 West Des Moines, Iowa 50265 Phone: 515-225-1515 Fax: 515-225-1826 E-mail: slscheffler@iowachristian.com

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#8. To: Original_Intent (#5)

I really do wish I believed in Hell because these Christian Zionazis really desperately need to be sent straight to that destination.

At least for a day.

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato

tom007  posted on  2007-06-19   20:13:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Original_Intent (#5)

I really do wish I believed in Hell

Read Memnock the Devil by Anne Rice. Interesting take on Heaven and Hell, God and the Devil.


Hey, wait. I got a new complaint.
Forever in debt to your price of supply.
- Nirvana

farmfriend  posted on  2007-06-19   20:19:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Eoghan, ALL (#0)

**************

RON PAUL 'O8

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"They must find it difficult...Those who have taken authority as the truth, rather than truth as the authority." ~ Gerald Massey

wudidiz  posted on  2007-06-19   20:33:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Original_Intent (#5)

The "Rupture" crowd want to kill all the Ragheads so that Jeeeeeeeeeeezusssssss will come and Rupture them to Heben for instigating world wide mass murder.

I tend to think it's more of naive christians having a persistant feeling sorrow for the "lost children" that have gone astray. They consider the constant wars on Israel as prophesy foretold and which cannot be helped or changed, all the while oblivious to the mayhem the secular government sows.

Sure there would be excitement that these are the end times, but I'd say that's probably a substantial minority.

Pinguinite.com

Pinguinite  posted on  2007-06-19   20:56:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: All (#0)

http://www.dailypaul.com/

Ron Paul Blocker Is McCain Senior Advisor

Posted June 20th, 2007 by antiwar

The Chairman of Iowans for Tax Relief, Ed Failor, is a Senior Advisor to the McCain Campaign in Iowa. Everyone calling him should be aware of that.

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2007-06-20   10:23:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Eoghan (#12)

The Chairman of Iowans for Tax Relief, Ed Failor, is a Senior Advisor to the McCain Campaign in Iowa. Everyone calling him should be aware of that.

Now, isn't that just special.

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Lod  posted on  2007-06-20   10:29:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Pinguinite (#11)

I tend to think it's more of naive christians having a persistant feeling sorrow for the "lost children" that have gone astray. They consider the constant wars on Israel as prophesy foretold and which cannot be helped or changed, all the while oblivious to the mayhem the secular government sows.

Sure there would be excitement that these are the end times, but I'd say that's probably a substantial minority.

I am sure that in some cases you are right, but I have also heard a bloodthirsty minority segment who are cynically using end times prophecy for temporal ends, or the deluded who somehow think that by encouraging and supporting such that the second coming will be aided and sped along. One such supporter of the latter was a good friend, may he rest in peace, who was a Pastor associated with the Graham Ministries. He sincerely believed that the troubles in the M.E. were the harbingers of the End Times and thus supported Whoregay's criminal depredations. I disagreed with him then and now.

Liberals want the government to be your Mommy.
Conservatives want government to be your Daddy.
Libertarians want it to treat you like an adult. - Andre Marrou

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-06-21   17:40:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: tom007 (#8)

I really do wish I believed in Hell because these Christian Zionazis really desperately need to be sent straight to that destination.

At least for a day.

Yes. My hyperbole is just that since I wish no man ill - even they who do ill in ignorance or greed. Still, I wish there was someway to wake them up and return them to a righteous path.

Liberals want the government to be your Mommy.
Conservatives want government to be your Daddy.
Libertarians want it to treat you like an adult. - Andre Marrou

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-06-21   17:43:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: farmfriend (#9)

Memnoch the Devil

Yes, rather, turns the whole thing wonderfully on it's head!

swarthyguy  posted on  2007-06-21   17:45:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Original_Intent (#15)

Still, I wish there was someway to wake them up and return them to a righteous path.

Yeh, I know what you meant. Some are very deep in sleep.

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato

tom007  posted on  2007-06-21   18:55:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Original_Intent (#15)

My hyperbole is just that since I wish no man ill

boy, i do. i wish the truly evil ones ill will..anyone who tortures or harms another living being i wish the same for them a hundred fold. there are plenty whom the world would be much better off if they were gone or never were.

christine  posted on  2007-06-21   23:40:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: christine (#18)

boy, i do. i wish the truly evil ones ill will..anyone who tortures or harms another living being i wish the same for them a hundred fold. there are plenty whom the world would be much better off if they were gone or never were.

Oh, don't get me wrong I would spare little sympathy for those types as I utterly despise them and their actions. However, despite more than sufficient justification I refuse to hate them, because hate rebounds upon those who indulge in it. Though they have earned it a thousand times over I would not do to them what they have done to others or would do to me had they cause and opportunity (although the insane can manufacture a cause from the nothingness of their own twisted fears and fantabulations). It is a matter of personal philosophy, it is kind of a Buddhist viewpoint, I will not sink to their level even in meting out punishment which would suit their crimes, but only because doing so harms spiritually those handing out the punishments not out of any sympathy for the degraded bastards. Hanging is literally too good for them. However, putting them to work at hard labor under harsh, even savage, conditions and the TLC of a "friendly DI" for the rest of their lives would fit within my parameters and provide some measure of satisfaction that justice was served.

Liberals want the government to be your Mommy.
Conservatives want government to be your Daddy.
Libertarians want it to treat you like an adult. - Andre Marrou

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-06-22   13:02:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: Original_Intent (#19)

well said and i agree with you for the most part, however, i still maintain that hatred and wrath are appropriate emotions for certain individuals. in truth, i doubt that i could control the emotion even if i wanted to. i'm a very passionate woman. i love hard and i hate hard. ;)

christine  posted on  2007-06-22   13:12:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: christine (#20)

Call me.

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Lod  posted on  2007-06-22   13:16:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: lodwick (#21)

laughing...

christine  posted on  2007-06-22   13:25:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: christine (#20)

i'm a very passionate woman. i love hard and i hate hard.

I'm the same way. Sadly it's hard to find a man who can handle it.


Hey, wait. I got a new complaint.
Forever in debt to your price of supply.
- Nirvana

farmfriend  posted on  2007-06-22   13:44:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: christine (#20)

well said and i agree with you for the most part, however, i still maintain that hatred and wrath are appropriate emotions for certain individuals. in truth, i doubt that i could control the emotion even if i wanted to. i'm a very passionate woman. i love hard and i hate hard. ;)

Thank you. I would agree that wrath is often appropriate, but would argue that hate is unnecessary. Two reasons for that: Hate rebounds upon he or she that allows themselves to hate and drags them down. It clouds the mind and distorts judgement. I once found myself in such a position, where I had succumbed to real hatred, and it was one of the most miserable times of my life. The words of an often maligned American Philosopher - the late L. Ron Hubbard, provided a path out. Basically the advice in the essay I read (titled "What is Greatness" - it was published in USA Today during a PR campaign - I saw it as a poster someone had hung up) was that true greatness is to be found in the resistance to the urge to hate, despite the temptations, and despite invitations and real justification to do so. The truth of the words resonated with me, and caused me to discard the hate that was ruining me - not immediately but I did work at it. I can't say that I have a spotless record, but I'm trying.

Passion is a good thing. The world is a tough place and you have to be a Tiger to survive, and even then it is rough. However, caring for others, loving, are the saving graces of our existence and seems to me to be the true path to happiness. I really seriously doubt that the foul bastards we've alluded to have experienced a moment of true happiness in much, if not all, of their lives. They are as much their own enemy as ours, and create for themselves greater tortures than we would devise for them, and they've earned every moment of agony.

"All that we are is the result of what we have thought. If a man speaks or acts with an evil thought, pain follows him. If a man speaks or acts with a pure thought, happiness follows him, like a shadow that never leaves him." -- Gauttama Sakyamuni - The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-06-22   13:44:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: farmfriend, christine (#23)

i'm a very passionate woman. i love hard and i hate hard.

I'm the same way. Sadly it's hard to find a man who can handle it.

There are a few of us who appreciate it. I can't stand insipid little wall flowers with the "meek" little Miss Bianca routine or the plastic "Vogue" smile whose face would crack if they reaaaaaaally laughed.

"All that we are is the result of what we have thought. If a man speaks or acts with an evil thought, pain follows him. If a man speaks or acts with a pure thought, happiness follows him, like a shadow that never leaves him." -- Gauttama Sakyamuni - The Buddha

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-06-22   13:47:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Original_Intent (#25)

There are a few of us who appreciate it.

Mmmm, you just might be required to prove that!


Hey, wait. I got a new complaint.
Forever in debt to your price of supply.
- Nirvana

farmfriend  posted on  2007-06-22   14:04:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: farmfriend, christine (#23) (Edited)

oooooh, love me hard, ladies. :)


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Critter  posted on  2007-06-22   14:10:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Original_Intent (#15)

I wish no man ill

I wish ill on any man or woman who conspires to intercourse us anally.


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Critter  posted on  2007-06-22   14:16:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Critter (#27)

oooooh, love me hard, ladies.

Don't be tempting me, you might get more than you bargined for.


Hey, wait. I got a new complaint.
Forever in debt to your price of supply.
- Nirvana

farmfriend  posted on  2007-06-22   14:28:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: farmfriend (#29)

you might get more than you bargined for.

That would be a switch. I usually get much less. hehehe


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Critter  posted on  2007-06-22   14:51:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Critter (#30)

That would be a switch. I usually get much less.

I think you are going to have to provide some details. I wouldn't want to disappoint!


Hey, wait. I got a new complaint.
Forever in debt to your price of supply.
- Nirvana

farmfriend  posted on  2007-06-22   14:53:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: farmfriend, christine (#31)

I don't know if I should be talking details on chris' forum. she may ban me. :p


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Critter  posted on  2007-06-22   15:30:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: Critter (#32)

I don't know if I should be talking details on chris' forum. she may ban me.

Hahaha, use mine. No one ever goes there and I promise I won't ban you!


Hey, wait. I got a new complaint.
Forever in debt to your price of supply.
- Nirvana

farmfriend  posted on  2007-06-22   15:33:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: farmfriend, Critter, christine, all (#33)

Sex will turn any thread for the better.

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Lod  posted on  2007-06-22   17:00:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: Original_Intent (#5)

I really do wish I believed in Hell because these Christian Zionazis really desperately need to be sent straight to that destination.

I really wish I believed in humanity, 'cause they'd get there a lot quicker.

"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-06-22   17:34:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: lodwick, Critter, christine (#34)

Sex will turn any thread for the better.

My kinda place.


Hey, wait. I got a new complaint.
Forever in debt to your price of supply.
- Nirvana

farmfriend  posted on  2007-06-22   17:36:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: farmfriend (#36)

Sex will turn any thread for the better.

My kinda place.

My kinda woman.


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Critter  posted on  2007-06-22   17:42:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Critter (#37)

My kinda woman.

You are trying to get me in trouble aren't you?


Hey, wait. I got a new complaint.
Forever in debt to your price of supply.
- Nirvana

farmfriend  posted on  2007-06-22   17:43:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: farmfriend (#38) (Edited)

You are trying to get me in trouble aren't you?

I have to admit that one of my favorite pastimes is corrupting the ladies...


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Critter  posted on  2007-06-22   17:45:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: farmfriend (#38)

What? you don't like my hobby? hehehe


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Critter  posted on  2007-06-22   18:46:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Critter (#40)

What? you don't like my hobby? hehehe

No I love your hobby too much and it gets me in trouble.


Hey, wait. I got a new complaint.
Forever in debt to your price of supply.
- Nirvana

farmfriend  posted on  2007-06-22   18:52:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Critter. farmfriend. Fallen Angels here (#39)

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Lod  posted on  2007-06-22   18:53:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: Critter (#39)

I have to admit that one of my favorite pastimes is corrupting the ladies...

LOL! I'm already corrupted.


Hey, wait. I got a new complaint.
Forever in debt to your price of supply.
- Nirvana

farmfriend  posted on  2007-06-22   18:53:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: lodwick, Critter (#42)

Here was one person's reaction to my getting banned from LP.


Hey, wait. I got a new complaint.
Forever in debt to your price of supply.
- Nirvana

farmfriend  posted on  2007-06-22   18:58:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: All (#42)

See Who I Am - (Freedom can Prevail)

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Lod  posted on  2007-06-22   19:25:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: farmfriend (#44)

Heard you got booted again from another site.

Really, just stop acting like a whore and stop sending naked pictures of your self.

This?

That forum looked really dopey to me...more like an LP type bunch of pinheads.

Join the Ron Paul Revolution

Lod  posted on  2007-06-22   19:31:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: All (#46)

Join the Ron Paul Revolution

Lod  posted on  2007-06-22   22:11:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: farmfriend (#44)

stop sending naked pictures of your self.

How do I get on your mailing list? :P


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Critter  posted on  2007-06-23   23:41:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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