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Title: Lou Dobbs is an idiot (as if you needed more evidence)
Source: ambrosini.us
URL Source: http://www.ambrosini.us/wordpress/2 ... -needed-more-evidence-edition/
Published: Jun 20, 2007
Author: ambrosini.us
Post Date: 2007-06-20 11:41:20 by can of corn
Keywords: None
Views: 1852
Comments: 69

He’s clueless about political economy. Also, he lies. He claimed immigrants make up 1/3 of the prison population when in fact they have a lower incarceration rate than the rest of the population (they’re 6% of inmates and 7% of the total population). Also, he’s suggested immigrants are responsible for an imaginary leprosy epidemic(!). From the NYT article:

The most common complaint about [Dobbs], at least from other journalists, is that his program combines factual reporting with editorializing. But I think this misses the point. Americans, as a rule, are smart enough to handle a program that mixes opinion and facts. The problem with Mr. Dobbs is that he mixes opinion and untruths. He is the heir to the nativist tradition that has long used fiction and conspiracy theories as a weapon against the Irish, the Italians, the Chinese, the Jews and, now, the Mexicans.

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#2. To: can of corn, *The Border* (#0)

INVASION USA

Illegal aliens murder 12 Americans daily

Death toll in 2006 far overshadows total U.S. soldiers killed in Iraq, Afghanistan

Posted: November 28, 2006

1:00 a.m. Eastern

By Joseph Farah

http://wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=53103

In the population study of a sample of 55,322 illegal aliens, researchers found that they were arrested at least a total of 459,614 times, averaging about 8 arrests per illegal alien. Nearly all had more than 1 arrest. Thirty-eight percent (about 21,000) had between 2 and 5 arrests, 32 percent (about 18,000) had between 6 and 10 arrests, and 26 percent (about 15,000) had 11 or more arrests. Most of the arrests occurred after 1990.

http://www.newswithviews.com/Kouri/jim62.htm

"The U.S. Justice Department estimated that 270,000 illegal immigrants served jail time nationally in 2003. Of those, 108,000 were in California. Some estimates show illegals now make up half of California's prison population, creating a massive criminal subculture that strains state budgets and creates a nightmare for local police forces."

http://www.newsmax.com/archives/ic/2006/3/27/114208.shtml

More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, study says

http://www.gao.gov/docsearch/abstract.php?rptno=GAO-05-646R

They were arrested for a total of about 700,000 criminal offenses, averaging about 13 offenses per illegal alien. One arrest incident may include multiple offenses, a fact that explains why there are nearly one and half times more offenses than arrests. Almost all of these illegal aliens were arrested for more than 1 offense. Slightly more than half of the 55,322 illegal aliens had between 2 and 10 offenses. About 45 percent of all offenses were drug or immigration offenses. About 15 percent were property-related offenses such as burglary, larceny-theft, motor vehicle theft, and property damage. About 12 percent were for violent offenses such as murder, robbery, assault, and sex-related crimes. The balance was for such other offenses as traffic violations, including driving under the influence; fraud--including forgery and counterfeiting; weapons violations; and obstruction of justice. Eighty percent of all arrests occurred in three states--California, Texas, and Arizona. Specifically, about 58 percent of all arrests occurred in California, 14 percent in Texas, and 8 percent in Arizona.

robin  posted on  2007-06-20   12:24:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: robin (#2)

Illegal aliens murder 12 Americans daily

Don't do this robin, and make me be on the same side as can of corn! I have already torn up at least two immigration ariticles, one of which was probably from Morris Dees and used to promote hate.

Here is a fact: most illegal immigrants are scared of the police. This only makes sense, because if they get involved with the police, they end up getting deported. For this reason, most illegal immigrants are much more law abiding that you or I. For fear.

Secondly, and we have gone over this before, what that is proposed and writtne about in the national media do you accept as the truth? Anything, or, just about immigration?

And until you can show me ONE thing that is true and that is honestly reported in the press, do not start using info from the press to prove a point such as this.

Besides, (choke, gasp, pain!) can of corn is right about Lou Dobbs, and everyone in 4um pretty much knows it, I suspect.

Which, by the way, does not say much about your sources to disprove the point!

richard9151  posted on  2007-06-20   12:35:58 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: richard9151, all, toss their asses our NOW (#3)

"Here is a fact: most illegal immigrants are scared of the police." - richard9151

Illegals demonstrate in LA last Spring.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-06-20   15:22:55 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Jethro Tull, robin, mirage, farmfriend (#16)

Illegals demonstrate in LA last Spring.

LMFAO!! I suppose that now you will be posting info on how you.... YOU! PERSONALLY, were in the crowd and verifying that it was primarily illegals, right?

Or, did you take the word of the press... un, the mainstream press, for that supposed fact, Jethro?

Amazing. All those illegals supposedly in one place, and no immigration police nowheres. Amazing, is it not, how plain that makes it as to where the problems come from, if, of course, you have any eyes to see, ears to hear, and mouth to ask questions with instead of just being a bigot about everything.

Oh, Jethro, do you know what is behind bigotry? Ummm? Do you?

A lack of respect. Which all together too many in 4um have shown more than a little evidence of.

The poorest of the poor in Mèxico flee to the north, looking for work and the only solution clowns like you come up with is to shoot them... NOT fix your problems with YOUR government... Oh no. Not that! KILL EM ALL AND LET gOD SORT EM OUT. Yep. That has always been a winning formula.

richard9151  posted on  2007-06-20   15:37:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: richard9151, farmfriend, all (#19) (Edited)

LMFAO!! I suppose that now you will be posting info on how you.... YOU! PERSONALLY, were in the crowd and verifying that it was primarily illegals, right?

Sorry richard. Now that I look closer at the picture, it's obviously the St. Patrick's Day parade.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-06-20   16:05:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#25. To: Jethro Tull (#24)

Now that I look closer at the picture, it's obviously the St. Patrick's Day parade.

Not enough gays and lessies to be the St. Paddy ThingEy.

Sodie Pop  posted on  2007-06-20 16:18:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Jethro Tull, richard9151 (#24)

Now that I look closer at the picture, it's obviously the St. Patrick's Day parade.

Actually I am Irish but that's beside the point. Chance to use a smilie!!!

farmfriend  posted on  2007-06-20 17:38:55 ET  (1 image) Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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