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Title: Lou Dobbs is an idiot (as if you needed more evidence)
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Published: Jun 20, 2007
Author: ambrosini.us
Post Date: 2007-06-20 11:41:20 by can of corn
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Comments: 69
He’s clueless about political economy. Also, he lies. He claimed immigrants make up 1/3 of the prison population when in fact they have a lower incarceration rate than the rest of the population (they’re 6% of inmates and 7% of the total population). Also, he’s suggested immigrants are responsible for an imaginary leprosy epidemic(!). From the NYT article: The most common complaint about [Dobbs], at least from other journalists, is that his program combines factual reporting with editorializing. But I think this misses the point. Americans, as a rule, are smart enough to handle a program that mixes opinion and facts. The problem with Mr. Dobbs is that he mixes opinion and untruths. He is the heir to the nativist tradition that has long used fiction and conspiracy theories as a weapon against the Irish, the Italians, the Chinese, the Jews and, now, the Mexicans.
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#14. To: richard9151, robin (#11)
Something we agree on. Can it possibly be so!? But first, the Mexican Government needs to be convinced it needs to deal with its own problems. Funny how they signed onto NAFTA and drooled over it and then chose to blame everyone BUT THEMSELVES for their own problems. So when is Mexico going to deal with its own issues? Fifth of Never?
America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.
Second Tues in the first week of the month of Septober.
Illegals demonstrate in LA last Spring.
I do not usually get things backwards, robin. The flood of immigrants, legal as well as illegal, were intended to do two things. First, break down the togetherness of American society. So, yes, while a portion of the government and organizations extoll the virutes of the immigration flood, at the very same time there is/was/and will be a concentrated effort to create and inject race hatred and fear into the society. All of these things have been studyied, and it is how a society is broken down and a new society created on the ruins of the old. The prinicples behind this have been extolled on at great length by those who are considered to be the great thinkers of the communist revolution. I forget the terminology they use to describe this process, but it is not hard to see what is going on if you simply decide to look, listen and learn. Second, use the flood of immigrants, legal and illegal, to suppress the wages of the American worker so that the standard of living the United States is reduced to somewhere close to the rest of the world, so that the United States can be comfortably joined to the rest of the world under a one world government. This was discussed and decided on back in the 1950s.
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
Tell me, O' Great Wise One. Did you bother to read the post I put up about the passage of NAFTA in Mèxico? And how about Salinas, the president of Mèxico, fled the country after he left office, with, oh, maybe 100 millin dollars hidden in Switzerland? Did you bother? And did you read in that post how the corruption in the voting, using computers from the UNITED STATES, is what put him in office in the first place? I would guess that the people of Mèxico will begin to reform their government when the same people who control YOUR elections no longer intefere with theirs. Do not export the problems created in the Untied States to Mèxico, and there will not be problems entering the states from Mèxico. As for the Mèxican government, until you take control of your own and boot the Neocons and the rest of the filth out, do not lecture others about their supposed problems.
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
LMFAO!! I suppose that now you will be posting info on how you.... YOU! PERSONALLY, were in the crowd and verifying that it was primarily illegals, right? Or, did you take the word of the press... un, the mainstream press, for that supposed fact, Jethro? Amazing. All those illegals supposedly in one place, and no immigration police nowheres. Amazing, is it not, how plain that makes it as to where the problems come from, if, of course, you have any eyes to see, ears to hear, and mouth to ask questions with instead of just being a bigot about everything. Oh, Jethro, do you know what is behind bigotry? Ummm? Do you? A lack of respect. Which all together too many in 4um have shown more than a little evidence of. The poorest of the poor in Mèxico flee to the north, looking for work and the only solution clowns like you come up with is to shoot them... NOT fix your problems with YOUR government... Oh no. Not that! KILL EM ALL AND LET gOD SORT EM OUT. Yep. That has always been a winning formula.
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
LA is a sanctuary city.
If they are the poorest of the poor then how can they pay the smugglers the thougsands they are charged.
Not everyone pays, esp. the first time that they go over the border. Remember, this problem started many years ago, and most of those people are on their third or fourth or fifth trip. Also, many times they pay the fees off by the month; and do not go there about them not paying. The smugglers can kill in Mèxico (family) if they can not find those who owe the money. And, do not believe everything you hear about how much the smugglers charge. Remember, that info only comes from the media; you have no personel knowledge of it. (I do; and there are relatives of mine that have crossed the border for a $100 fee. And again, the ones I know would never pay unless they had to go in a hurry.).
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
This is why you are an apologist. Do you really think that the People of Mexico are totally incapable of seizing control of their own country? They have a long history of throwing out their Government by violent means. They can do so again if they so choose but their Government is exporting the people who would do that so it can stay in power. By claiming that Mexico cannot fix its own problems, you are an apologist for their unwillingness to clean up their own mess. It also makes you a cheerleader for their policy of "send the problems to the US then extract money from them so we don't have to deal with it." That is the sum total of your arguments.
America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.
Sorry richard. Now that I look closer at the picture, it's obviously the St. Patrick's Day parade.
Not enough gays and lessies to be the St. Paddy ThingEy.
So MS13, is an American Creation right??? You are such a fucking dumbass. They came from El Salvador. Just like half the gangs that are so called Latino. Give me a fucking break. You're an apologist, nothing more. I just hope that when they get to your area you're the vicitm of a violent crime. That way you can see what it's like to live in a town where the cops can't make a dent due to the fact there are so many traitors apologizing for the illegal alien scourge.
Dying for old bastards, and their old money, isn't my idea of freedom.
Tell em to GET THE HELL OUT OF MY COUNTRY!
Richard's in Mexico--an ex pat.
Actually I am Irish but that's beside the point. Chance to use a smilie!!!
The human being is a fighting species and forcing diverse populations to share space only aggravates this. Diversity does not work too well in Israel either, which is something you are already aware of, so how can you expect it to work any better in the US? The only way it will be tolerated is when you have a strongman leadership, such as Yugoslavia under Tito or Iraq under Saddam, or under Communism, and under such circumstances nobody is happy.
The only way it will be tolerated is when you have a strongman leadership, such as Yugoslavia under Tito or Iraq under Saddam, or under Communism, and under such circumstances nobody is happy. reply o'the day bump Thank you.
so are you a citizen of the US or Mexico? Where on earth do you get that this is a good thing for this country? It isnt.. what the reasons are behind the illegals in this country tell the story.. this is not the end of US sovereignty its the end of this country period.
You don't like the Jews but are very protective of the Mexicans and cry against racism towards them. Can of Corn cries against racism but does not like Palestinians.
Hes a muslim hater..
I notice there are many unflattering articles in the media about blacks recently, something we've not seen in our lifetimes.
A practitioner of selective diversity.
File that under hypocrisy..
weapon against the Irish, the Italians, the Chinese, the Jews and, now, the Mexicans. Oh boo hoo hoo... Cynicom It is obvious COC is a Jew POS provocateur. Nothing more. His post is a LIE. I take it back Zipporah !! LOL
Wouldn't wish that on anyone. This is what diversity does though, causes a lot of anger and hatred. The Japanese are lucky.
Lou Dobbs rocks.Richard and can o corn suck donkey dick.Long live Lou!
I WONT recant :P
Lou Dobbs is an American hero.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition It's a pic of the 1st ever Bossa Nova marathon.
LOL! OH taking that one! laughing...
Sheesh, if that crowd was whitey the cops would be parked in the middle in an ArVee rockin' & rollin' in full auto. Citizen: How can you kill innocent women and children like that? Cop: It's easy, you don't have to lead 'em as much as you do men.
Well hot damn. You nailed it. They have to be Beaners given the lack of police involvement. Where is Ricardo???
You are correct. Congrats. It also means the end of Mèxico. Now go look at the new post just up and learn a little about what is being done to you; it is called Thesis - Anti-thesis - Synthesis.
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
Sheesh, if that crowd was whitey the cops would be parked in the middle in an ArVee rockin' & rollin' in full auto. Well hot damn. You nailed it. They have to be Beaners given the lack of police involvement. Where is Ricardo??? You are absolutely right. Must have been all of them poor folk arranged for that, right? I mean, the gov had nothing to do with it... nor the police, right? Probably a commision of the poorest of the poor took a vote and said, nope, no cops today. Won't allow it. Try the new post just up; Thesis Anti-thesis Syntesis. Find out what is being done to you..... by your own government.
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
I have no interest honestly.. it is not only the end of the US and Mexico but the end of Canada too..
Can 'o Corn spreads lies. Dobbs never said "immigrants make up 1/3 of the prison population." Get your facts straight. "Non United States Citizens" appear to make up 26.5% of the current Federal prison population according to Federal Bureau of Prisons statistics. David Leonhardt said the following in the NYT article. A 2003 report by Bill Tucker said one-third of the inmates in the federal prison system were not United States citizens. He went on to note that there was no system in place to identify how many of those were illegal aliens. LOU DOBBS TONIGHT Aired November 4, 2003 - 18:00 ET [Excerpt] BILL TUCKER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Lou, the costs exceed $1.4 billion, and that's just the cost to hold them in prison. And while they were in prison, you'd think we'd identify which ones are illegal aliens. We don't. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) TUCKER (voice-over): One-third of the people in federal prisons are not United States citizens. Incredibly, there's no system currently in place to identify how many of those prisoners are also illegal aliens. Yet immigration offenses are the third most common reason people go to jail. Leonhardt and Can o' Corn change that to "illegal immigrants" and expand it beyond the Federal prison system to all prisoners "in this country." http://www.bop.gov/news/quick.jsp#2 Last Updated: Saturday, 26 May 2007 Inmate Population Total population: 197,976 Inmate Breakdown Citizenship United States: 145,461 (73.5 %) [nc - that would be 26.5% non-citizens]
Since we know the whereabouts of at least 16% of illegal Mexicans, would it be OK to deport these guys back to Mexico? (Answer) = NO. Mexico refuses to accept them back.
At least we get to live through "interesting times"...
For accuracy, that should be 16.8% of Federal prisoners are known to be illegal alien Mexicans. That 33,316 in Federal prison is only a smidgen of the total in the country.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestI want the border locked down tight, IN BOTH DIRECTIONS.
#15. To: mirage, richard9151, robin (#14)
So when is Mexico going to deal with its own issues? Fifth of Never?
Hey, wait. I got a new complaint.
Forever in debt to your price of supply. - Nirvana
#16. To: richard9151, all, toss their asses our NOW (#3)
"Here is a fact: most illegal immigrants are scared of the police." - richard9151
#17. To: robin, mirage (#13)
I think you've got it backwards. Those organizations and the govt are motivated to make the illegals look attractive.
#18. To: mirage, robin, farmfriend, Jethro Tull (#14)
But first, the Mexican Government needs to be convinced it needs to deal with its own problems. Funny how they signed onto NAFTA and drooled over it and then chose to blame everyone BUT THEMSELVES for their own problems.
#19. To: Jethro Tull, robin, mirage, farmfriend (#16)
Illegals demonstrate in LA last Spring.
#20. To: richard9151 (#19)
All those illegals supposedly in one place, and no immigration police nowheres.
Hey, wait. I got a new complaint.
Forever in debt to your price of supply. - Nirvana
#21. To: richard9151, Jethro Tull, robin, mirage (#19)
The poorest of the poor in Mèxico flee to the north,
Hey, wait. I got a new complaint.
Forever in debt to your price of supply. - Nirvana
#22. To: farmfriend (#21)
If they are the poorest of the poor then how can they pay the smugglers the thougsands they are charged.
#23. To: richard9151 (#18)
Do not export the problems created in the Untied States to Mèxico, and there will not be problems entering the states from Mèxico.
#24. To: richard9151, farmfriend, all (#19)
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LMFAO!! I suppose that now you will be posting info on how you.... YOU! PERSONALLY, were in the crowd and verifying that it was primarily illegals, right?
#25. To: Jethro Tull (#24)
Now that I look closer at the picture, it's obviously the St. Patrick's Day parade.
#26. To: richard9151 (#11)
#27. To: richard9151 (#22)
and there are relatives of mine that have crossed the border for a $100 fee.
Hey, wait. I got a new complaint.
Forever in debt to your price of supply. - Nirvana
#28. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#26)
#29. To: Jethro Tull, richard9151 (#24)
Now that I look closer at the picture, it's obviously the St. Patrick's Day parade.
Hey, wait. I got a new complaint.
Forever in debt to your price of supply. - Nirvana
#30. To: can of corn (#0)
The problem with Mr. Dobbs is that he mixes opinion and untruths. He is the heir to the nativist tradition that has long used fiction and conspiracy theories as a weapon against the Irish, the Italians, the Chinese, the Jews and, now, the Mexicans.
#31. To: Diana (#30)
Diversity does not work too well in Israel either, which is something you are already aware of, so how can you expect it to work any better in the US?
#32. To: richard9151 (#11)
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#33. To: richard9151, Can of Corn, All (#12)
#34. To: Diana (#33)
#35. To: robin (#13)
Those organizations and the govt are motivated to make the illegals look attractive.
#36. To: Zipporah (#34)
Hes a muslim hater..
#37. To: Diana (#36)
#38. To: Cynicom, COC, Zipporah, robin, christine (#1)
can of corn (#0)
#39. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#26)
I just hope that when they get to your area you're the vicitm of a violent crime.
#40. To: richard9151 (#3)
#41. To: JCHarris (#38)
#42. To: can of corn (#0)
Lou Dobbs is an idiot
#43. To: farmfriend, richard90210, Blame it on the Bassa Nova, All (#29)
#44. To: IndieTX (#42)
Hey, wait. I got a new complaint.
Forever in debt to your price of supply. - Nirvana
#45. To: Jethro Tull (#43)
richard90210, Blame it on the Bossa Nova
#46. To: Jethro Tull (#16)
#47. To: Esso (#46)
Sheesh, if that crowd was whitey the cops would be parked in the middle in an ArVee rockin' & rollin' in full auto.
#48. To: Zipporah (#32)
its the end of this country period.
#49. To: Jethro Tull, Esso (#47)
#50. To: richard9151 (#48)
#51. To: can of corn (#0)
Also, he lies. He claimed immigrants make up 1/3 of the prison population when in fact they have a lower incarceration rate than the rest of the population (they’re 6% of inmates and 7% of the total population).
For one thing, Mr. Dobbs has a somewhat flexible relationship with reality. He has said, for example, that one-third of the inmates in the federal prison system are illegal immigrants. That’s wrong, too. According to the Justice Department, 6 percent of prisoners in this country are noncitizens (compared with 7 percent of the population).
Leonhardt does a bait-and-switch in midstream, which Can o' Corn emulates. Leonhardt accurately cites "inmates in the federal prison system," falsely refers to "illegal immigrants" and then cites a total bullshit statistic which does -NOT- pertain to the Federal prison system. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0311/04/ldt.00.html
STATISTICS FROM THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF PRISONS
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Total sentenced population: 179,980
Inmates in BOP facilities: 167,260
Inmates in privately-managed secure facilities1: 19,379
Inmates in other contract facilities2: 11,337
Mexico: 33,316 (16.8 %)
Colombia: 3,158 (1.6 %)
Cuba: 1,609 (0.8 %)
Dominican Republic: 3,124 (1.6 %)
Other/Unknown: 11,308 (5.7 %)
#52. To: nolu_chan (#51)
Mexico: 33,316 (16.8 %)
#53. To: Zipporah (#50)
I have no interest honestly.. it is not only the end of the US and Mexico but the end of Canada too..
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#54. To: Jethro Tull (#52)
Since we know the whereabouts of at least 16% of illegal Mexicans....
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