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Title: Lou Dobbs is an idiot (as if you needed more evidence)
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Published: Jun 20, 2007
Author: ambrosini.us
Post Date: 2007-06-20 11:41:20 by can of corn
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Views: 1120
Comments: 69
He’s clueless about political economy. Also, he lies. He claimed immigrants make up 1/3 of the prison population when in fact they have a lower incarceration rate than the rest of the population (they’re 6% of inmates and 7% of the total population). Also, he’s suggested immigrants are responsible for an imaginary leprosy epidemic(!). From the NYT article: The most common complaint about [Dobbs], at least from other journalists, is that his program combines factual reporting with editorializing. But I think this misses the point. Americans, as a rule, are smart enough to handle a program that mixes opinion and facts. The problem with Mr. Dobbs is that he mixes opinion and untruths. He is the heir to the nativist tradition that has long used fiction and conspiracy theories as a weapon against the Irish, the Italians, the Chinese, the Jews and, now, the Mexicans.
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#23. To: richard9151 (#18)
This is why you are an apologist. Do you really think that the People of Mexico are totally incapable of seizing control of their own country? They have a long history of throwing out their Government by violent means. They can do so again if they so choose but their Government is exporting the people who would do that so it can stay in power. By claiming that Mexico cannot fix its own problems, you are an apologist for their unwillingness to clean up their own mess. It also makes you a cheerleader for their policy of "send the problems to the US then extract money from them so we don't have to deal with it." That is the sum total of your arguments.
America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.
Sorry richard. Now that I look closer at the picture, it's obviously the St. Patrick's Day parade.
Not enough gays and lessies to be the St. Paddy ThingEy.
So MS13, is an American Creation right??? You are such a fucking dumbass. They came from El Salvador. Just like half the gangs that are so called Latino. Give me a fucking break. You're an apologist, nothing more. I just hope that when they get to your area you're the vicitm of a violent crime. That way you can see what it's like to live in a town where the cops can't make a dent due to the fact there are so many traitors apologizing for the illegal alien scourge.
Dying for old bastards, and their old money, isn't my idea of freedom.
Tell em to GET THE HELL OUT OF MY COUNTRY!
Richard's in Mexico--an ex pat.
Actually I am Irish but that's beside the point. Chance to use a smilie!!!
The human being is a fighting species and forcing diverse populations to share space only aggravates this. Diversity does not work too well in Israel either, which is something you are already aware of, so how can you expect it to work any better in the US? The only way it will be tolerated is when you have a strongman leadership, such as Yugoslavia under Tito or Iraq under Saddam, or under Communism, and under such circumstances nobody is happy.
The only way it will be tolerated is when you have a strongman leadership, such as Yugoslavia under Tito or Iraq under Saddam, or under Communism, and under such circumstances nobody is happy. reply o'the day bump Thank you.
so are you a citizen of the US or Mexico? Where on earth do you get that this is a good thing for this country? It isnt.. what the reasons are behind the illegals in this country tell the story.. this is not the end of US sovereignty its the end of this country period.
You don't like the Jews but are very protective of the Mexicans and cry against racism towards them. Can of Corn cries against racism but does not like Palestinians.
Hes a muslim hater..
I notice there are many unflattering articles in the media about blacks recently, something we've not seen in our lifetimes.
A practitioner of selective diversity.
File that under hypocrisy..
weapon against the Irish, the Italians, the Chinese, the Jews and, now, the Mexicans. Oh boo hoo hoo... Cynicom It is obvious COC is a Jew POS provocateur. Nothing more. His post is a LIE. I take it back Zipporah !! LOL
Wouldn't wish that on anyone. This is what diversity does though, causes a lot of anger and hatred. The Japanese are lucky.
Lou Dobbs rocks.Richard and can o corn suck donkey dick.Long live Lou!
I WONT recant :P
Lou Dobbs is an American hero.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition It's a pic of the 1st ever Bossa Nova marathon.
LOL! OH taking that one! laughing...
Sheesh, if that crowd was whitey the cops would be parked in the middle in an ArVee rockin' & rollin' in full auto. Citizen: How can you kill innocent women and children like that? Cop: It's easy, you don't have to lead 'em as much as you do men.
Well hot damn. You nailed it. They have to be Beaners given the lack of police involvement. Where is Ricardo???
You are correct. Congrats. It also means the end of Mèxico. Now go look at the new post just up and learn a little about what is being done to you; it is called Thesis - Anti-thesis - Synthesis.
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
Sheesh, if that crowd was whitey the cops would be parked in the middle in an ArVee rockin' & rollin' in full auto. Well hot damn. You nailed it. They have to be Beaners given the lack of police involvement. Where is Ricardo??? You are absolutely right. Must have been all of them poor folk arranged for that, right? I mean, the gov had nothing to do with it... nor the police, right? Probably a commision of the poorest of the poor took a vote and said, nope, no cops today. Won't allow it. Try the new post just up; Thesis Anti-thesis Syntesis. Find out what is being done to you..... by your own government.
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
I have no interest honestly.. it is not only the end of the US and Mexico but the end of Canada too..
Can 'o Corn spreads lies. Dobbs never said "immigrants make up 1/3 of the prison population." Get your facts straight. "Non United States Citizens" appear to make up 26.5% of the current Federal prison population according to Federal Bureau of Prisons statistics. David Leonhardt said the following in the NYT article. A 2003 report by Bill Tucker said one-third of the inmates in the federal prison system were not United States citizens. He went on to note that there was no system in place to identify how many of those were illegal aliens. LOU DOBBS TONIGHT Aired November 4, 2003 - 18:00 ET [Excerpt] BILL TUCKER, CNN CORRESPONDENT: Lou, the costs exceed $1.4 billion, and that's just the cost to hold them in prison. And while they were in prison, you'd think we'd identify which ones are illegal aliens. We don't. (BEGIN VIDEOTAPE) TUCKER (voice-over): One-third of the people in federal prisons are not United States citizens. Incredibly, there's no system currently in place to identify how many of those prisoners are also illegal aliens. Yet immigration offenses are the third most common reason people go to jail. Leonhardt and Can o' Corn change that to "illegal immigrants" and expand it beyond the Federal prison system to all prisoners "in this country." http://www.bop.gov/news/quick.jsp#2 Last Updated: Saturday, 26 May 2007 Inmate Population Total population: 197,976 Inmate Breakdown Citizenship United States: 145,461 (73.5 %) [nc - that would be 26.5% non-citizens]
Since we know the whereabouts of at least 16% of illegal Mexicans, would it be OK to deport these guys back to Mexico? (Answer) = NO. Mexico refuses to accept them back.
At least we get to live through "interesting times"...
For accuracy, that should be 16.8% of Federal prisoners are known to be illegal alien Mexicans. That 33,316 in Federal prison is only a smidgen of the total in the country.
it's a BAC redux.
Ah, Tommy, me boyo. Sooner or later you will get tired of looking foolish for challenging me. I posted this under the immigration thread some time ago; Street Gangs of Los Angelas You can find most of the info about street gangs in that post, and, Tommy me boy, they is all home grown. (Except, as I point out, some of the Asian gangs.) Now, I did not have the details about MS-13, so, here it tis; http://www.knowgan gs.com/gang_resources/profiles/ms13/ In the early 1980s a civil war erupted in El Salvador killing as estimated 100,000 people. In addition, it is estimated between one and two million people have immigrated to the United States as a result of the unstable environment in El Salvador. The first large population of El Salvadorian refuges settled in the Rampart area of Los Angeles. This influx of immigrants looking for low cost housing and employment was not readily welcomed by the Mexican-American population who were already residing in that area. The area was already plagued with gangs and crime. These immigrant Salvadorian youth and young adults were soon were victimized by local gangs. A group of Salvadorian immigrants created a new gang calling themselves Mara Salvatrucha also known as MS-13. It is believed they got their name from combining the name of “La Mara”, a violent street gang in El Salvador with Salvatruchas, a term used to denote members of the Farabundo Marti National Liberation Front. This was a group of Salvadorian peasants trained as guerilla fighters. The “13” was added to pay homage to the California prison gang, the Mexican Mafia. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Now, Tommy, those immigrants from San Salvador.... do you want me to go into details as to why that there civil war was ongoing, and, who was behind it? I can, you know; the US government. So many of those people, esp. the young, had more than a little hatred built up about the US as well. So, want to throw any more of the wonderful info you get from the US media at me, Tommy boy? Oh, and by-the-way, in that post about Street Gangs, I also have a link to the FBI which shows that the gang problem in San Salvador was caused by deporting gang members FROM THE US BACK TO SAN SALVADOR. OK? Get it? Anything else?
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
I don't think he's an idiot, but I haven't watched his program in over a year because of his constant inaccurate and emotional rants against immigration. Even if he was right, he completely wears it out. It's supposed to be a business news show, but it hasn't had any news on it in ages. I don't want to get into the immigration argument, but his show is plain unwatchable now. It's just rant after rant, all on one topic. I remember when he went off about Enron and Arthur Anderson. He was right that it wasn't AA's fault, but after six months of the same thing every night, my eyes glazed over when he brought up the subject.
You ever think that perhaps that is the purpose of what he does?
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
Enron wasn't AA's fault, but their destruction was. Way prior to Enron happening, they refused to let the SEC have open access to the books of their clients. When they did that, it was kinda like Saddam nationalizing Iraq's oil. It was the end of them.
The illegal we do immediately. The Unconstitutional takes a little longer. - Henry Kissinger.
Diana, I cry against Racism always, not because of Mèxico, but that is the chosen subject by many in 4um. What bugs me about what is said is the double standard; If the Mèxicans would take back control of their government..... This from US citizens who have never had control of their own government, which is controlled by the same people who control the Mèxican government! It's all the fault of the Mèxican government..... See above. It's all the fault of the Mèxicans..... Get my point? Hard for me to accept the stupidity that goes into such statements. Esp. when every bit of the problem can be traced right back to Washington, DC. See the post; Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965 As to the Jews, it is not a case of like or dislike; they have declared themselves to be the enemy of Christianity, and thus they are my enemy as I frely admit to being a Christian, BY THEIR CHOICE. And I can give you chapter and verse on that. Besides which, it is no secret that Communism comes directly from the Talmud, the bible of the Jewish people. But, and this is where people are confused, so does Capitalism. So there are reasons for what I say and do; it is not blind like so many of those who post here. As to the Jews,
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
You think that maybe they knew what was going to be found if they allowed the search? They needed to be destroyed, just as Enron did, because both of them were in the same boat together. but after six months of the same thing every night, my eyes glazed over when he brought up the subject. Such things, to me, do not happen by accident, they are deliberate. After enough of this, people simply tune it out. And those in control of the news know these rules very well. And if they have doubts, they simply read Goebbels.
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
Since when, and, how do you define an American hero? Has he, ever, spoken of the Federal Reserve and its private control of the money supply, and interest rates? Has he ever questioned who controls the Federal Reserve? Has he ever mentioned that it would be a good idea to audit the Federal Reserve? Has he ever mentioned the CIA control of drugs coming into the US? Has he ever mentioned the CIA-Mossad-MI-6 connection, and how it ties into the international movement of so-called illegal drugs? Has he ever asked for a further investigation into 911? Has he ever asked for additional info on what is happening with VoteScam? The stealing of elections using vote-fraud electronic machines? (I hope you understand that I could go on and on and on and on here, about the things he does not dare to speak of.) Does he support Ron Paul? Or, does he just get on the tele and give you a little lip service on some subject that happens to be a hot button of the moment, and his answer is slightly different from the mainstream? Curious minds want to know....
The Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
No, they refused in ALL cases, because they held (inter-office) that they had a fiduciary duty to their clients, and they would only allow the Justice Department to get at their clients if the Justice Dept. had a formally issued subpoena. The Justice Dept's position was that as a Public Accounting firm, the justice dept was entitled to look at all of the books of all of their clients upon the issuance of a letter (not a subpoena or warrant). Arthur Anderson was legally correct, but strategically it was a bad move. As an industry leader, their insistence on the legal rights of their clients made some other accounting firms follow suit. Hence the Justice Dept was already pissed at them prior to Enron. You can guess what the legal status of client privacy is now.
The illegal we do immediately. The Unconstitutional takes a little longer. - Henry Kissinger.
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Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestDo not export the problems created in the Untied States to Mèxico, and there will not be problems entering the states from Mèxico.
#24. To: richard9151, farmfriend, all (#19)
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LMFAO!! I suppose that now you will be posting info on how you.... YOU! PERSONALLY, were in the crowd and verifying that it was primarily illegals, right?
#25. To: Jethro Tull (#24)
Now that I look closer at the picture, it's obviously the St. Patrick's Day parade.
#26. To: richard9151 (#11)
#27. To: richard9151 (#22)
and there are relatives of mine that have crossed the border for a $100 fee.
Hey, wait. I got a new complaint.
Forever in debt to your price of supply. - Nirvana
#28. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#26)
#29. To: Jethro Tull, richard9151 (#24)
Now that I look closer at the picture, it's obviously the St. Patrick's Day parade.
Hey, wait. I got a new complaint.
Forever in debt to your price of supply. - Nirvana
#30. To: can of corn (#0)
The problem with Mr. Dobbs is that he mixes opinion and untruths. He is the heir to the nativist tradition that has long used fiction and conspiracy theories as a weapon against the Irish, the Italians, the Chinese, the Jews and, now, the Mexicans.
#31. To: Diana (#30)
Diversity does not work too well in Israel either, which is something you are already aware of, so how can you expect it to work any better in the US?
#32. To: richard9151 (#11)
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#33. To: richard9151, Can of Corn, All (#12)
#34. To: Diana (#33)
#35. To: robin (#13)
Those organizations and the govt are motivated to make the illegals look attractive.
#36. To: Zipporah (#34)
Hes a muslim hater..
#37. To: Diana (#36)
#38. To: Cynicom, COC, Zipporah, robin, christine (#1)
can of corn (#0)
#39. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#26)
I just hope that when they get to your area you're the vicitm of a violent crime.
#40. To: richard9151 (#3)
#41. To: JCHarris (#38)
#42. To: can of corn (#0)
Lou Dobbs is an idiot
#43. To: farmfriend, richard90210, Blame it on the Bassa Nova, All (#29)
#44. To: IndieTX (#42)
Hey, wait. I got a new complaint.
Forever in debt to your price of supply. - Nirvana
#45. To: Jethro Tull (#43)
richard90210, Blame it on the Bossa Nova
#46. To: Jethro Tull (#16)
#47. To: Esso (#46)
Sheesh, if that crowd was whitey the cops would be parked in the middle in an ArVee rockin' & rollin' in full auto.
#48. To: Zipporah (#32)
its the end of this country period.
#49. To: Jethro Tull, Esso (#47)
#50. To: richard9151 (#48)
#51. To: can of corn (#0)
Also, he lies. He claimed immigrants make up 1/3 of the prison population when in fact they have a lower incarceration rate than the rest of the population (they’re 6% of inmates and 7% of the total population).
For one thing, Mr. Dobbs has a somewhat flexible relationship with reality. He has said, for example, that one-third of the inmates in the federal prison system are illegal immigrants. That’s wrong, too. According to the Justice Department, 6 percent of prisoners in this country are noncitizens (compared with 7 percent of the population).
Leonhardt does a bait-and-switch in midstream, which Can o' Corn emulates. Leonhardt accurately cites "inmates in the federal prison system," falsely refers to "illegal immigrants" and then cites a total bullshit statistic which does -NOT- pertain to the Federal prison system. http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0311/04/ldt.00.html
STATISTICS FROM THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF PRISONS
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Total sentenced population: 179,980
Inmates in BOP facilities: 167,260
Inmates in privately-managed secure facilities1: 19,379
Inmates in other contract facilities2: 11,337
Mexico: 33,316 (16.8 %)
Colombia: 3,158 (1.6 %)
Cuba: 1,609 (0.8 %)
Dominican Republic: 3,124 (1.6 %)
Other/Unknown: 11,308 (5.7 %)
#52. To: nolu_chan (#51)
Mexico: 33,316 (16.8 %)
#53. To: Zipporah (#50)
I have no interest honestly.. it is not only the end of the US and Mexico but the end of Canada too..
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#54. To: Jethro Tull (#52)
Since we know the whereabouts of at least 16% of illegal Mexicans....
#55. To: nolu_chan (#51)
#56. To: TommyTheMadArtist, robin, farmfriend, Jethro Tull, all (#26)
So MS13, is an American Creation right??? You are such a fucking dumbass. They came from El Salvador. Just like half the gangs that are so called Latino.
#57. To: can of corn (#0)
#58. To: Mekons4 (#57)
He was right that it wasn't AA's fault, but after six months of the same thing every night, my eyes glazed over when he brought up the subject.
#59. To: Mekons4 (#57)
I remember when he went off about Enron and Arthur Anderson. He was right that it wasn't AA's fault, but after six months of the same thing every night, my eyes glazed over when he brought up the subject.
#60. To: Diana (#33)
You don't like the Jews but are very protective of the Mexicans and cry against racism towards them.
#61. To: bluedogtxn (#59)
Way prior to Enron happening, they refused to let the SEC have open access to the books of their clients.
#62. To: IndieTX (#42)
Lou Dobbs is an American hero.
#63. To: richard9151 (#61)
You think that maybe they knew what was going to be found if they allowed the search?
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