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Title: Purdue University sticks it to the 9-11 "Truthers"
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Published: Jun 21, 2007
Author: churchoftheduke.blogspot.
Post Date: 2007-06-21 13:28:28 by can of corn
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Makes me damn proud of my associated with Purdue, actually. The short version is that researchers at Purdue, which is known for having one of the finest engineering schools in the country, have concluded a 2.5 year study on the 9/11 attacks. The focus of the study was to examine the structural failure of the WTC towers with an eye towards designing buildings that could withstand aircraft strikes. The full article on http://CNN.com is here. The researchers also posted a simple computer model of the attack on Youtube, which I've linked to here. I will say, that if you don't like reading the absolutely inane drivel of the 9/11 "Truthers", then don't read the comments on the video. This excerpt is from the CNN article. A computer simulation of the September 11, 2001, attack on the World Trade Center, posted on the Web site YouTube by Purdue University researchers, shows how hijacked planes crashed through the twin towers, stripping fireproofing materials from the steel columns and eventually leading to their collapse. Of course, this won't actually do anything to shut up the "Inside Job" movement, who amongst conspiracy theorists have the remarkable ability to jam their fingers in their ears and not listen to reason. Unfortunately, as proud as I am of Purdue for releasing this study; I also know it won't do any good with the conspiracy types. Not because I think the study is flawed or anything silly like that, mind you. It's because you can't argue with a conspiracy theorist. Since they're not dealing with reality, any factual evidence can explained away by another government coverup. It must be great to be able to just make stuff up when the evidence stands against you.
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Watch the film! This silly and confusing cartoon proves out our opinion, at least in our opinion, and it also demonstrates that Saddam moved the WMD to Syria. (But you have to watch very carefully to see this second part.)
Heh.
The illegal we do immediately. The Unconstitutional takes a little longer. - Henry Kissinger.
Let you clean the floors there, did they? Mighty nice of them.
The illegal we do immediately. The Unconstitutional takes a little longer. - Henry Kissinger.
Unfortunately, as proud as I am of Purdue for releasing this study; I also know it won't do any good with the conspiracy types. Not because I think the study is flawed or anything silly like that, mind you. It's because you can't argue with a conspiracy theorist. Since they're not dealing with reality, any factual evidence can explained away by another government coverup. It must be great to be able to just make stuff up when the evidence stands against you. This "article" is heavy on ad hominem remarks, and light on any "facts", as it doesn't mention any.
I have no idea who "can of corn" is; I'm the original author of the piece posted here. It's from my blog; the URL is up there as well. As such, it's an opinion piece. I'm offering my opinion on the article written by CNN regarding the research study done at Purdue University. I'm not out to "prove" 9/11 to anyone - that's what the researchers are there for. It may be that my piece is heavy on attacks against the 9/11 "truther" movement. Well, that's probably because I don't have a lot of respect for people who deny obvious facts. You know, when I think about it, the "truthers" have a lot in common with creationists.
Actually white whale hunter, truthers are nothing at all like creationists. Truthers are the guys who come into the Garden of Eden to check out this creation myth first hand and ask Adam and Eve why they have navels if they were created not carried to term by some woman who did the nasty with some dude.
Thesis: Official 9/11 story is an unproven conspiracy theory. http://911truth.org http://Justicefor911.org http://summeroftruth.org Probable-cause standards have been met for an unlimited investigation of unsolved crimes relating to the events of Sept. 11, including allegations of criminal negligence, cover-up, complicity or commission of the attacks by US officials and assets of intel services.
I agree that asking questions
about the official 911 story or the official Kennedy assassination story shows
an unhealthy disrespect for authority. It's on par with doubting the Iraqi
WMD finds reported by Fox News.
Do you believe in the Laws of Physics, or do you think that they only apply when it serves the government?
http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/cmh/simulation/phase3/WTC-1_EP.pdf [PDF] http://tinyurl.com/29nld6 [HTML] An Engineering Perspective of the Collapse of WTC-I Ayhan Irfanoglu and Christoph M. Hoffmann Abstract: We report on a simulation study of the performance of the North Tower (WTC-I) of the World Trade Center complex during the impact of American Airline Flight 77, on September 11, 2001. We discuss impact damage the structural core might have sustained and its possible behavior under structural and thermal loading. Our simulations indicate that the worst damage to the core structure was in stories 95 through 97 of the tower. We estimate that a core collapse mechanism could be initiated if the tower core column temperatures were elevated to about 700ºC. ... No detailed observational data on the performance of tower core elements exist. Therefore, the Purdue research team used finite element simulations to assist in estimating the impact response and the post-impact state of the structural elements in the core. Objective evaluations of the simulation results indicated that identification of the number and distribution of columns damaged immediately by the impact was quite sensitive to the input parameters. As would be expected, the simulations did indicate consistently some damage to the core columns but credible changes in input parameters such as flight or column properties resulted in changes in calculated impact damage suggesting that an exact determination of the damage to the core was not defensible. On the other hand, it was found that a simple construct, not dependent on exact identification of the damage distribution, would explain the collapse. The study concentrated on the core structure of the tower and its possible behavior under impact and thermal loads. It was not the purpose of the study to rule out other plausible mechanisms initiating collapse of the WTC-I tower, such as one due to loss of lateral bracing and buckling of perimeter columns induced by failure of open-web floor joists under thermal loads, or other failure mechanisms. Rather, the object of the paper is to show that a simple and credible hypothesis will suffice to explain the observed collapse. ... Damage to WTC-I core structural elements There were forty-seven columns arranged in six column lines in the core structure of WTC-I. Figure 6 shows the core columns as well as the perimeter columns on a typical floor plan. Figure 7 shows a perspective view of the columns and floor slab of the 95th story. Because there is no observational information on the state of core structure after the aircraft impact, computer simulations are used to estimate the damage sustained by the structural elements in WTC-I core. Table 1 lists the estimated number of heavily damaged core columns according to our final simulation. However, it must be added that during the series of simulations performed, we found the estimates to be very sensitive to model parameters such as failure strain of materials, to the extent that in the heavily damaged stories 95 through 97, the number of damaged columns could be as few as half the numbers listed in Table 1. This observation was not surprising given the fact that simulation results reported by other researchers (see for example, NIST 2005 and Omika et al. 2005) with regards to damage to the core columns are scattered over a wide range. Table 2 lists the estimates for maximum number of destroyed core columns as reported by various research groups. From the results obtained at Purdue and elsewhere, it is evident that to determine by calculation the exact number of columns damaged by the impact is beyond the technology currently available to us. However, in our simulations, we observed that the heavy damage to the core columns concentrated consistently at stories 95 through 97. This too should not be considered surprising given the fact that the aircraft impacted the WTC-I tower at or very close to floor level 96 and that the airplane had the greatest concentration of mass close to its centerline. ... The demand and full-core capacity curves in Figure 11 suggest that if 95th story core columns had free heights of 3.6 m, i.e. if they were restrained at the top and bottom of the story, when the core reached approximately 700ºC, the structure would not be able to sustain the axial loads from the stories above and a core collapse would be initiated. ... When damage to the core columns in story 95 is taken into consideration, the limit state is reached at a lower temperature (see Figure 11). The reduction in the level of critical temperature is estimated to be no more than 50ºC. In other words, even though the aircraft impact loads may have eliminated a significant number of core columns, the damage to core structure had, ultimately, little effect on the critical thermal load level to fail the core under axial gravity loads. Although not illustrated in here, if the core columns were to lose their lateral supports and their free heights became more than 3.6 meter, even though there would be significant reduction in the total axial load capacity of the core columns, the estimated ultimate failure temperature would not have changed that significantly. For example, doubling the free-height to two-stories reduces the total axial capacity by about 30-40% but reduces the failure temperate to only about 600ºC or about 650ºC if no damage to core columns were considered. Again the damage to core columns from impact loads could be considered immaterial when viewed from ultimate thermal load capacity of the core structure. In thermal load analysis for response of structural elements at high temperatures under actual conditions, the effect of a 50ºC difference in temperature is hardly distinguishable, given all the uncertainties. It is evident from observation and our simulations that the debris of the aircraft went through the WTC structure at stories 94 through 97. Much of the fire insulation would have been scoured off leaving the steel elements unprotected during the immediately following fire event. Experimental data for steel in that condition (Buchanan 2000) indicate that the metal temperature in all unprotected structural elements would have reached 700ºC in a typical office fire. That condition would suffice to initiate instability (e.g. Ali and O’Connor 2001, Wang and Davies 2003) even if all the girders were intact and the failure mechanism was limited to one story of the core structure. Conclusions Impact simulations indicate that the damage states of the WTC-I core structural elements are very sensitive to analysis parameters and as such, it is not possible to suggest the exact state of the core framing after the aircraft impact. Simulations indicate consistently that the worst damage to the core structure was sustained in the 95th through 97th stories of the tower. For both the intact and plausible compromised core states considered, it is estimated that a core collapse mechanism could have been initiated in WTC-I if the tower core column temperatures were elevated to approximately 700ºC. As the aircraft debris went through several stories in the tower, much of the thermal insulation on the core columns would have been scoured off. Under such conditions, the ensuing fire would be sufficient to cause instability and initiate collapse. From an engineering perspective, impact damage to the core structure had a negligible effect on the critical thermal load required to initiate collapse in the core structure. Acknowledgments We thank Prof. Mete A. Sozen for his insight and invaluable support throughout the project. Graduate Research Assistants Paul A. Rosen, Ingo Brachmann, and Oscar A. Ardila-Giraldo developed the numerical models and executed the computer simulations. Konstantinos Miamis provided the base study on thermal behavior of columns. This project is supported in part by NSF-ITR grant DSC-0325227. Infrastructure support for the large-scale simulations was provided in part by the Northwest Indiana Computational Grid, by the Network for Computational Nanotechnology of Purdue University, and by the Bowen Laboratory for Civil Engineering.
Why am I not surprised to find millions of $$$ of taxpayer money pumped into the making of this cartoon. ----- http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/cmh/simulation/phase3/WTC-1_EP.pdf [PDF] http://tinyurl.com/29nld6 [HTML] An Engineering Perspective of the Collapse of WTC-I Ayhan Irfanoglu ... This project is supported in part by NSF-ITR grant DSC-0325227. Infrastructure support for the large-scale simulations was provided in part by the Northwest Indiana Computational Grid, by the Network for Computational Nanotechnology of Purdue University, and by the Bowen Laboratory for Civil Engineering ----- http://www.cs.purdue.edu/homes/cmh/simulation/phase3/ Project Funding ----- http://www.nsf.gov/about/congress/ March 8, 2007 The National Science Foundation is funded at $5.91 billion for the 2007 fiscal year that began on October 1, 2006 and runs through September 30, 2007. The Research and Related Activities account received a $334.74 million increase over the figure for FY 2006, while the other accounts were funded at about the same level as the previous fiscal year. In other news, House and Senate appropriators have begun holding their hearings on the President's FY 2008 budget request. In testimony before the House Appropriations Committee's Subcommittee on Commerce, Justice, Science and Related Agencies on March 1, NSF Director Arden L. Bement, Jr., said the requested $6.43 billion dollars for FY 2008 "will keep NSF on the course set by the President's American Competitiveness Initiative to drive innovation and sharpen America's competitive edge." ----- http://www.nsf.gov/cise/cns/dddas/prior2005.pdf Awards Abstracts: Sameh Gallivan Sorensen ----- Sameh Award Abstract #0325227 NSF Org: CCF Investigator(s): Ahmed Sameh sameh@cs.purdue.edu(Principal Investigator) NSF Program(s): ITR MEDIUM (GROUP) GRANTS ABSTRACT This project proposes to extend the methods we have developed for model reduction of large-scale Linear Time Invariant (LTI) systems to a new regime of problems that require adaptive models. In particular, we will consider large-scale structured problems that are either time-varying, or which require adaptive updating of the initial reduced models to obtain better approximation properties. Intellectual Merit The research proposed here will provide efficient and robust methods for producing reduced order models of large state-space systems. This activity is expected to have an impact on system theory of complex systems, parallel numerical linear algebra for large-scale problems, and on efficient implementation of these schemes on parallel and distributed platforms. Once the theory and computational methods are developed, we expect that high quality software will result and have applications in many areas of engineering. This will enable the design of real time controllers for complex systems. This project will also have an impact on the education of students in computational science and engineering, both at the undergraduate and the graduate levels. Broader Impact The proposed project leverages extensively the existing intellectual and equipment infrastructure at Purdue, Rice, and Florida State Universities, as well as the Catholic University of Louvain, Belgium. The overall group of PI's and senior personnel bring extensive expertise and experience in dynamical systems, model reduction, control theory, seismic design and analysis of structures, numerical linear algebra, geometric modeling, data analysis and visualization, and parallel computing. In fact, collectively, they have had experience in designing and implementing numerical linear algebra algorithms on most of the significant high-performance commercial architectures and many of the experimental parallel architectures since the Illiac IV (designed and built in the late 1960's!). The three groups complement one another perfectly and are well-poised to successfully realize the goals of this proposal. ----- Gallivan Award Abstract #0324944 NSF Org: CCF Investigator(s): Kyle Gallivan gallivan@csit.fsu.edu(Principal Investigator) NSF Program(s): ITR MEDIUM (GROUP) GRANTS ABSTRACT This project proposes to extend the methods we have developed for model reduction of large-scale Linear Time Invariant (LTI) systems to a new regime of problems that require adaptive models. In particular, we will consider large-scale structured problems that are either time-varying, or which require adaptive updating of the initial reduced models to obtain better approximation properties. Intellectual Merit The research proposed here will provide efficient and robust methods for producing reduced order models of large state-space systems. This activity is expected to have an impact on system theory of complex systems, parallel numerical linear algebra for large-scale problems, and on efficient implementation of these schemes on parallel and distributed platforms. Once the theory and computational methods are developed, we expect that high quality software will result and have applications in many areas of engineering. This will enable the design of real time controllers for complex systems. This project will also have an impact on the education of students in computational science and engineering, both at the undergraduate and the graduate levels. Broader Impact The proposed project leverages extensively the existing intellectual and equipment infrastructure at Purdue, Rice, and Florida State Universities, as well as the Catholic University of Louvain, Belgium. The overall group of PI's and senior personnel bring extensive expertise and experience in dynamical systems, model reduction, control theory, seismic design and analysis of structures, numerical linear algebra, geometric modeling, data analysis and visualization, and parallel computing. In fact, collectively, they have had experience in designing and implementing numerical linear algebra algorithms on most of the significant high-performance commercial architectures and many of the experimental parallel architectures since the Illiac IV (designed and built in the late 1960's!). The three groups complement one another perfectly and are well-poised to successfully realize the goals of this proposal. ----- Sorensen Award Abstract #0325081 Investigator(s): Danny Sorensen sorensen@caam.rice.edu(Principal Investigator) NSF Program(s): ITR MEDIUM (GROUP) GRANTS ABSTRACT This project proposes to extend the methods we have developed for model reduction of large-scale Linear Time Invariant (LTI) systems to a new regime of problems that require adaptive models. In particular, we will consider large-scale structured problems that are either time-varying, or which require adaptive updating of the initial reduced models to obtain better approximation properties. Intellectual Merit The research proposed here will provide efficient and robust methods for producing reduced order models of large state-space systems. This activity is expected to have an impact on system theory of complex systems, parallel numerical linear algebra for large-scale problems, and on efficient implementation of these schemes on parallel and distributed platforms. Once the theory and computational methods are developed, we expect that high quality software will result and have applications in many areas of engineering. This will enable the design of real time controllers for complex systems. This project will also have an impact on the education of students in computational science and engineering, both at the undergraduate and the graduate levels. Broader Impact The proposed project leverages extensively the existing intellectual and equipment infrastructure at Purdue, Rice, and Florida State Universities, as well as the Catholic University of Louvain, Belgium. The overall group of PI's and senior personnel bring extensive expertise and experience in dynamical systems, model reduction, control theory, seismic design and analysis of structures, numerical linear algebra, geometric modeling, data analysis and visualization, and parallel computing. In fact, collectively, they have had experience in designing and implementing numerical linear algebra algorithms on most of the significant high-performance commercial architectures and many of the experimental parallel architectures since the Illiac IV (designed and built in the late 1960's!). The three groups complement one another perfectly and are well-poised to successfully realize the goals of this proposal. ---- http://128.10.19.20/about_us/annual_reports/97/faculty/sameh.html Ahmed H. Sameh Ahmed Sameh is the Head, and Samuel D. Conte Professor of Computer Science at Purdue University, West Lafayette. He joined Purdue in January, 1997, after being the Head of Computer Science at the University of Minnesota, Minneapolis, and the holder of the William Norris Chair in Large-Scale Computing, and prior to that the Director of the Center for Supercomputing Research and Development at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign. His current research interests include numerical linear algebra, and the design and performance analysis of parallel numerical algorithms. Sameh received his B.Sc. from the University of Alexandria, Egypt in 1961, M.S. from Georgia Institute of Technology in 1964, and Ph.D. from the University of Illinois (U-C) in 1968, all in Civil Engineering (Structural Mechanics). He was a faculty member of the Department of Computer Science at the University of Illinois (U-C) from 1968 to 1991. ----- http://www.cs.fsu.edu/faculty/faculty.php?userId=gallivan Kyle Gallivan Dr. Kyle Gallivan was awarded his PhD in Computer Science from the University of Illinois. Funding, recent and current http://people.scs.fsu.edu/~gallivan/?page=funding Funding, previous http://people.scs.fsu.edu/~gallivan/?page=prevfunding ----- http://www.caam.rice.edu/~sorensen/bio.html Danny C. Sorenson Danny C. Sorensen received a B.S. (1972) from the University of California at Davis and both an M.A. (1975) and Ph.D. (1977) from the University of California at San Diego. He then worked at the Argonne National Laboratory in Chicago, Illinois and is now a Noah Harding Professor of Computational and Applied Mathematics at Rice University in Houston, Texas. ----- Almadena Y. Chtchelkanova http://www.research.ibm.com/journal/rd/501/wolfaut.html Almadena Y. Chtchelkanova Strategic Analysis, Inc., Arlington, Virginia 22201 (achtchel@nsf.gov). Dr. Chtchelkanova is currently a Program Director at the Directorate for Computer and Information Science and Engineering at the National Science Foundation. She is on a leave of absence from Strategic Analysis, Inc. (SAI), where since 2000 she has supported numerous programs for clients at DARPA as a Senior Scientist in the Technology and Analysis Division. She has considerable experience in the areas of quantum computing, spintronics, scientific software analysis and design, signal and image processing algorithms, visualization, computational fluid dynamics, optics, and spectroscopy. In 2004, Dr. Chtchelkanova received the Alan Berman Research Publication Award at the Naval Research Laboratory (NRL) for coauthoring a paper published in Science magazine. She is a coauthor of a chapter on spintronics in the Handbook on Nanoscience (CRC Press, 2003), and is coeditor, with Dr. Stuart Wolf, of the book Magnetic Interactions and Spin Transport (Kluwer, 2002). Before joining SAI, she spent more than four years at the NRL Laboratory for Computational Physics and Fluid Dynamics. She is a member of the American Physical Society and is an author of more than 30 publications in computer science, physical, and astrophysical journals. Dr. Chtchelkanova received a Ph.D. degree in physics from Moscow State University in 1988 and an M.A. degree from the Department of Computer Sciences, University of Texas at Austin, in 1996. -----
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formerly GJones.
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Formerly ballwitch muncher
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#2. To: can of balls (#1)
and it also demonstrates that Saddam moved the WMD to Syria.
#3. To: can of corn (#0)
Makes me damn proud of my associated with Purdue, actually.
#4. To: can of corn (#0)
Of course, this won't actually do anything to shut up the "Inside Job" movement, who amongst conspiracy theorists have the remarkable ability to jam their fingers in their ears and not listen to reason.
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#5. To: FormerLurker (#4)
This "article" is heavy on ad hominem remarks, and light on any "facts", as it doesn't mention any.
#6. To: Ahab (#5)
"You know, when I think about it, the "truthers" have a lot in common with creationists."
#7. To: Ahab (#5)
You know, when I think about it, the "truthers" have a lot in
common with creationists.
Formerly Fun and Happy Balls.
Formerly balls alert.
Formerly tinfoil wonderballs.
Formerly trilateralballs
Formerly statist miniballs
Formerly balls beat
Formerly Yomin Postelballs
Formerly ballwitch muncher
Formerly tuna piano but not tune your balls
Formerly llort daerter balls
Formerly cone of balls
Presently can of balls
#8. To: Ahab (#5)
It may be that my piece is heavy on attacks against the 9/11 "truther" movement. Well, that's probably because I don't have a lot of respect for people who deny obvious facts. You know, when I think about it, the "truthers" have a lot in common with creationists.
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#9. To: can of corn (#0)
#10. To: can of corn (#0)
and Christoph M. Hoffmann
NSF-ITR DSC-0325227, A. Sameh, PI
0325227 (L) http://www.nsf.gov/awardsearch/showAward.do?AwardNumber=0325227
0324944 (NL) http://www.nsf.gov/awardsearch/showAward.do?AwardNumber=0324944
0325081 (NL) http://www.nsf.gov/awardsearch/showAward.do?AwardNumber=0325081
0325227 (L) http://www.nsf.gov/awardsearch/showAward.do?AwardNumber=0325227
ITR/AP: Collaborative Research: Model Reduction of Dynamical Systems for Real-time Control
Initial Amendment Date: August 21, 2003
Latest Amendment Date: July 12, 2006
Award Number: 0325227
Award Instrument: Continuing grant
Program Manager: Almadena Y. Chtchelkanova
CCF Division of Computer and Communication Foundations
CSE Directorate for Computer & Information Science & Engineering
Start Date: September 1, 2003
Expires: August 31, 2008 (Estimated)
Awarded Amount to Date: $958502
Christoph Hoffmann (Co-Principal Investigator)
Ananth Grama (Co-Principal Investigator)
Sponsor: Purdue University
302 Wood Street
West Lafayette, IN 47907 765/494-4600
Field Application(s): 0000099 Other Applications NEC
Program Reference Code(s): HPCC,9216,1652
Program Element Code(s): 1687
0324944 (NL) http://www.nsf.gov/awardsearch/showAward.do?AwardNumber=0324944
ITR/AP: Collaborative Research: Model Reduction of Dynamical Systems for Real Time Control
Initial Amendment Date: August 21, 2003
Latest Amendment Date: August 2, 2006
Award Number: 0324944
Award Instrument: Continuing grant
Program Manager: Almadena Y. Chtchelkanova
CCF Division of Computer and Communication Foundations
CSE Directorate for Computer & Information Science & Engineering
Start Date: September 1, 2003
Expires: August 31, 2008 (Estimated)
Awarded Amount to Date: $414538
Paul Van Dooren (Co-Principal Investigator)
Sponsor: Florida State University
97 S WOODWARD AVE, STE 300
TALLAHASSEE, FL 32306 850/644-5260
Field Application(s): 0000099 Other Applications NEC
Program Reference Code(s): HPCC,9216,1652
Program Element Code(s): 1687
0325081 (NL) http://www.nsf.gov/awardsearch/showAward.do?AwardNumber=0325081
ITR/AP: Collaborative Research: Model Reduction of Dynamical Systems for Real-time Control
NSF Org: CCF
Initial Amendment Date: August 21, 2003
Latest Amendment Date: July 12, 2006
Award Number: 0325081
Award Instrument: Continuing grant
Program Manager: Almadena Y. Chtchelkanova
CCF Division of Computer and Communication Foundations
CSE Directorate for Computer & Information Science & Engineering
Start Date: September 1, 2003
Expires: August 31, 2008 (Estimated)
Awarded Amount to Date: $826959
Athanasios Antoulas (Co-Principal Investigator)
Sponsor: William Marsh Rice University
6100 MAIN ST
HOUSTON, TX 77005 713/348-4820
Field Application(s): 0000099 Other Applications NEC
Program Reference Code(s): HPCC,9216,1652
Program Element Code(s): 1687
#11. To: Ferret Mike (#6)
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Actually white whale hunter, tr
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