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Title: THE COMING RESISTANCE: NO ORGANIZATIONS, NO LEADERS
Source: Friends of Liberty
URL Source: http://sianews.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=2429
Published: May 17, 2005
Author: Alan Stang
Post Date: 2005-05-17 08:56:37 by boonie rat
Keywords: ORGANIZATIONS,, RESISTANCE:, LEADERS
Views: 174
Comments: 33

THE COMING RESISTANCE: NO ORGANIZATIONS, NO LEADERS

International Politics by Alan Stang May 17, 2005

As I write, the situation for our beloved country looks considerably bleaker than it did for the defenders at the Alamo or Valley Forge. By far, the biggest single factor in the worldwide advance of Communism and other forms of totalitarianism for almost a century--bigger even than the Communists and Nazis themselves--has been the United States government; more specifically, the conspiracy for totalitarian socialist world government that controls it.

We stand at the threshold of totalitarian outrage that will make what we have seen so far look like a Patrick Henry utopia. Soon, President Smirk will receive instructions via the bug in his ear to expand the perpetual, illegal war to include Iran and maybe Syria. The Prostitute National Press is presently preparing our minds for Smirk to revive the draft.

This time, the victims will be not just the nation's young men, but also the women, proving that we are every bit as corrupt, as degenerate, as utterly worthless, as our enemies say we are. And it looks as if the upper age will be 34 not 25. Meanwhile, Smirk is making the draft "inevitable" by threatening the best of the best in the military with court martial for killing, even for scaring, the enemy; with the predictable result that recruitment--even in the Marine Corps--is far below quota.

As I write, the U.S. Senate has just unanimously endorsed the so-called "Real ID" legislation, which will federalize drivers' licenses, and constitute the "internal passport" that has been a feature of every totalitarian dictatorship. It will tell the federal government almost everything about you and control your movements around the country. You will not be able to board an airline flight or open a bank account without it. Your papers please!...

Soon, technology will tell the District of Criminals where you are and what you are doing at all times. Chips will be inserted under your skin for the purpose, voluntarily at first, then before your newborn leaves the hospital. Complaints will be proof that you have something to hide. Financial privacy--any privacy--is gone. What could be the biggest financial debacle in history approaches with the coming collapse of the monster real estate bubble, which will trigger even more controls as the "solution." Favored corporations, not the people, run the government.

Most Americans will acquiesce because by now they have been utterly dumbed down in the nation's Communist government schools, deceived by the nation’s Communist media and spiritually corrupted by the celebrity churches who worship President Smirk. If Caligula apocryphally could make his horse a consul of Rome, today's celebrity churches apparently can make a horse’s rear end a god, while mouthing meaningless homilies about Jesus.

It now appears that a homosexual ring is operating in the White House itself, including at least one sodomite prostitute who advertises his expertise in buggery online. Is it the same homosexual ring that was operating in the administration of President Smirk senior? Who are the participants? Do they include the President? According to the Secret Service logs, the prostitute could have spent hours in the White House on some days; maybe he even slept there. With whom?

Now that the courts have killed Terri Schindler in Florida, the Nazi principle that the government alone has the right to decide who deserves to live will metastasize. The scheme to reduce the world population to manageable numbers, already under way, will intensify, by means of outright killing in war, in hospitals and hospices, maybe even in manufactured weather disasters, along with food and water engineered to reduce the sperm count, etc., so that the victims never know they are under attack.

Private property no longer exists. More and more people will come to know that when they are kicked off their land. With the help of the utterly fraudulent environmental movement, the federal government will take over, implementing Plank One of the Communist Manifesto. You will live and work where the government says you should. The government already owns outright almost half the nation's land. It indirectly controls the rest via property taxes.

Of course, these are just a few examples. If you were writing this piece, maybe you would have chosen others. As always, the last chapter will be written by a small group on one side or the other. The cattle in the middle will know nothing is amiss until the Jet-Skis in the driveway are repossessed. Which reminds me of the two Jews standing on line to get into Auschwitz. Izzy complained loudly because the line was so long. Moe silenced him. "Izzy! Shush! You’ll get us into trouble!" Hello, fellow Jews.

The President of the United States has said that every few years the tree of liberty must be watered with the blood of patriots and tyrants. As far as I know, he was thereby advising us to rebel once in a while just to keep our servants nervous. "(Il)liberals" in this country agree that at some point in Nazi Germany, when it became obvious that Hitler--who became Chancellor legally--had created a totalitarian dictatorship, rebellion, however illegal, became a moral imperative.

That point is now approaching here. Of course no one, including me, wants to talk about that, which is like not talking about the hyena that is chewing on (or off) your leg. The mantra many commentators mindlessly repeat says the problem can be solved with the ballot. But notice that when the people cast their ballots for something the conspiracy for world government disapproves, one of its whores on the bench simply cancels it. Proposition 187 in California is just one example. And the Republicruds are as bad as their Democrud counterparts.

Yes, your vote counts--if you vote the right way! Democracy means rubber stamping decisions made far above. Yes, there is Ron Paul. Yes, there is Tom Tancredo. Not exactly a majority. Needless to say, the national Republicrud Party hates them. If there is any chance others like them could become numerous enough to make a difference, the conspiracy for world government would sweep the newcomers into the dustbin of history, if you get my drift. The time has come to mention the unmentionable.

To demoralize their targets, the Communists preach that their victory is "inevitable." What is inevitable is that at some point presently unknown to me, millions of Americans--including many combat veterans who have already killed the enemy, Navy SEALS, Marine Force Recon, Army Rangers, etc.--will realize what is happening and resist it. How? When? What form will such resistance take? What must happen before such Americans take action?

What follows is complete speculation, the same kind the conspiracy for world government conducts when it gauges the opposition it will provoke. The conspirators know much more than I do about this. I base my speculations solely on what appears possible, not on anything specific I know; they spring from logic, not from experience.

When the feces hit the fan, what will patriots do? One kind of resistance would be guerrilla warfare. But such warfare requires a secure base elsewhere, some other country that supports, supplies, protects and encourages it, where fighters can go to rest and re-equip. The United States itself has sponsored guerrilla warfare in many countries. It always looks for a secure base in another country near the target. But there is no such base American warriors could use. So guerrilla warfare is impossible.

There is also the historical fact that large organizations with charismatic leaders instantly make themselves targets for infiltration, subversion and perversion, by the conspiracy for world government's expert practitioners of dialectical materialism, who almost invented the art. The target organization, sufficiently compromised, soon peters into nothingness. Leaders, however charismatic, can be neutralized, framed, even killed if necessary. The conspirators have killed many.

So what should we expect patriot leaders to do? Logic tells us that the only kind of resistance with any chance of success would have to be both leaderless and unorganized. There would be nothing to infiltrate and no charismatic leader to kill. The government's spies would be useless because there would be nothing to uncover. There would be no way for the totalitarians to know what will happen because there would be nothing more than what the Vietnam War called "targets of opportunity."

The warriors would not even know who their counterparts are. The only thing binding the participants together would be a shared belief—in the God of the Bible and our Christian civilization, in these United States, in strictly limited government and Free Enterprise, in the country that minded its own business; that walked softly but carried a big stick, where private property is sacrosanct.

Such activity would not be terrorism. Remember that terrorism is a technique invented in modern times by Lenin, developed by the gang that became the KGB and conducted ever since by governments, not by individuals acting alone. Lenin once said that "terrorism" is Communism. Governments secretly inspire most of the terrorism that afflicts the world today.

One of the hallmarks of terrorism is that it kills indiscriminately, the innocent as well as the guilty, usually in large numbers, as on Nine Eleven. What we are talking about instead are individual acts, the targets of which are culpable individuals and organizations. You will find a fictionalized example of this in my novel, Perestroika Sunset, about the POWS we faithlessly left behind in Vietnam. Go to my website, www.stangbooks.com to see the cover, the story, the reviews and the first chapter.

A recent example would be the case of Marine Corps veteran Mike Smith, who doesn't chew tobacco, but did for the occasion, bought a book, which qualified him to wait on line in Kansas City, all so that when he got to the head of it he was able to spit a large gob of tobacco juice and saliva into the face of traitor slut Jane Fonda, there to market her degenerate memoirs.

By itself, the incident does not amount to much. Imagine forays like it and much more, multiplied thousands of times. Mike Smith says it was worth doing. One can only salivate about the wholesome, unadulterated joy he must have felt seeing the gob of contaminated saliva splat the slut’s face and drip down its neck into its brassiere.

Some gentlemen may shrink from the idea of spitting on a lady. So do I. But of course Fonda is not a lady. She is a Communist, a traitor and a slut, directly responsible for the torture and killing of our men. Remember also that cowards on a university campus recently plastered Republicrud front woman Ann Coulter--who is a lady--with a pie. So it must be all right.

Another target already under individual attack is the nation’s Communist public schools. The reason the totalitarians get away with so much is very simply that the inmates of those schools are taught totalitarianism starting at age five, and never hear anything else, with the result that if, as adults, they accidentally stumble on the truth, it sounds bizarre. That is why most Americans saw nothing untoward in Miss Monica's knee prints on the Oval Office carpet.

Many patriots say they are discouraged. But more and more parents now are pulling their kiddos out and teaching them at home. The day they do so, they experience the inspiring, intoxicating flush of victory. They have saved one child--their own--rescued him or her from the lifelong grip of Communist brainwashing. Yes, the Communists control the government schools, but their Achilles heel is the presence of the children in the buildings, which the parents still control.

In a truly delicious irony, one reason for the present exodus is the illegal alien invasion conducted by Communist world government traitor George W. Smirk. Because the illegal children of those criminals soak up so much school money to teach them English, etc., there is not enough money left for music, art, sports and drama, etc.

One of the last reasons legal, American parents and their children have remained in the government schools was that, at least, they were "free," paid for by property tax. Now, often, that reason is gone, because the schools are asking those parents to pay--pay in effect twice--for the programs they want. More and more parents are "voting with their feet" and not coming back.

By now, so many have departed that the Communist government schools are starting to show cracks. The fewer the students, the less the money that comes from the state, and money is what those Communist schools are all about. The lawyers, administrators, etc.--who preposterously are paid more than the teachers--who feast on the living flesh of the parents are worried. A tipping point could arrive at which school districts would need to close down. Such a glorious victory could be achieved as the total of many individual efforts and would be legal and peaceful.

Certainly one of the easiest, least risky and yet most effective means of resistance is jury nullification, in which a juror uses the power he has had all along--power the judge is told to lie about--to decide both the law and the facts. Juries repealed Prohibition by refusing to convict. Today, juries could nullify by refusing to convict anyone in an income tax case, or a firearms rights case and more. In a criminal case, only one juror could do it, and he doesn't need to tell anyone why. He does it, doesn't say a word and goes home. The court can’t do anything about it.

There are giants on the earth today. My prayer is that such peaceful methods could persuade the totalitarians to back off before they arouse the deadliest creature that ever stalked the earth, thousands of whom are solemnly watching as the dictatorship is imposed: the retired Marine Corps sniper, who still can stick it in your eye; the Navy SEAL who can still eat your lunch, the Screaming Eagles who bring death from the sky.

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#1. To: boonie rat (#0)

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toddbrendanfahey  posted on  2005-05-17   9:06:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: boonie rat (#0)

We stand at the threshold of totalitarian outrage that will make what we have seen so far look like a Patrick Henry utopia. Soon, President Smirk will receive instructions via the bug in his ear to expand the perpetual, illegal war to include Iran and maybe Syria. The Prostitute National Press is presently preparing our minds for Smirk to revive the draft.

This time, the victims will be not just the nation's young men, but also the women, proving that we are every bit as corrupt, as degenerate, as utterly worthless, as our enemies say we are. And it looks as if the upper age will be 34 not 25.

.....

As I write, the U.S. Senate has just unanimously endorsed the so-called "Real ID" legislation, which will federalize drivers' licenses, and constitute the "internal passport" that has been a feature of every totalitarian dictatorship. It will tell the federal government almost everything about you and control your movements around the country. You will not be able to board an airline flight or open a bank account without it. Your papers please!...

If it is okay to be in this nation illegally, then "unusually" obtained Real ID (UnReal ID) must be okay too. Hypothetically speaking, an extra one with an hispanic surname, would bring many financial advantages. Or maybe something Jewish, for those tougher roadblocks, that must be in our future.

robin  posted on  2005-05-17   9:51:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: boonie rat (#0)

Unbelievable.

Thanks!

Lod  posted on  2005-05-17   10:00:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: boonie rat (#0)

Meanwhile, Smirk is making the draft "inevitable" by threatening the best of the best in the military with court martial for killing, even for scaring, the enemy; with the predictable result that recruitment--even in the Marine Corps--is far below quota.

He lost me with this sentence.

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-05-17   10:13:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: boonie rat, Critter, 1776, ALL (#0)

Private property no longer exists.

that actually started back when the wording of the Declaration of Independence was changed from the "pursuit of property" to the "pursuit of happiness." what the hell is the pursuit of happiness? how intentionally ambiguous is that? who was responsible for that alteration? the truth of the matter is, we have not had our republic for a very long time. i sometimes wonder if we ever did at all.

christine  posted on  2005-05-17   11:38:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: boonie rat, Hmmmmm, Esso (#0)

What we are talking about instead are individual acts, the targets of which are culpable individuals and organizations. You will find a fictionalized example of this in my novel, Perestroika Sunset, about the POWS we faithlessly left behind in Vietnam. Go to my website, www.stangbooks.com to see the cover, the story, the reviews and the first chapter.

UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES

christine  posted on  2005-05-17   11:48:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: boonie rat (#0)

two Jews standing on line to get into Auschwitz. Izzy complained loudly because the line was so long. Moe silenced him. "Izzy! Shush! You’ll get us into trouble!" Hello, fellow Jews.

The government already owns outright almost half the nation's land. It indirectly controls the rest via property taxes.

Such a great analogy of the common sheep....opps...I mean man.

One who lives on a boat no longer pays rent....opps...I mean property tax.

timetobuildaboat  posted on  2005-05-17   14:12:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: boonie rat (#0)

No matter what lies ahead remember, God, honor, pride.

Don  posted on  2005-05-17   18:43:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: christine (#5)

When did the Constitution it ever say the pursuit of property? Attribution please. As for property and people standing up to the govt. I guarantee that when the time comes and the govt. starts taking homes and giving them to illegals and others that are deemed more deserving than the actual owners of said homes the sheep will say not one word of protest. Especially after a few who do protest are made public examples of why it is not good not to irritate the anointed ones.

willyone  posted on  2005-05-17   20:18:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: christine (#5)

how intentionally ambiguous is that?

Well, I guess the D of I could be ambiguous. It's not realy an official document. My trouble is with constitutional ambiguousness... too many examples and too tired to cite them all, but most of us know them... general welfare and interstate commerce clauses cdome to mind... both of which have been used to create some gawd awful shit.

I am one of those who believe the end of the republic (if we ever really had one) came at the start of the war between the states. At that point, the federal government made it clear that the people do not own the government, but rather, the government owns the people.

Since then, we have been subjects.

I simply refuse to live as a subject any longer. I will live my life as I see fit and resist at all cost the man that tries to stop me. We'll see how long I last once the National ID kicks in. Not long I imagine, cuz I won't get one and won't be jailed for not having one.

Critter  posted on  2005-05-18   23:38:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: willyone (#9)

When did the Constitution it ever say the pursuit of property? Attribution please.

Virginia Declaration of Rights

I That all men are by nature equally free and independent, and have certain inherent rights, of which, when they enter into a state of society, they cannot, by any compact, deprive or divest their posterity; namely, the enjoyment of life and liberty, with the means of acquiring and possessing property, and pursuing and obtaining happiness and safety.

II That all power is vested in, and consequently derived from, the people; that magistrates are their trustees and servants, and at all times amenable to them.

III That government is, or ought to be, instituted for the common benefit, protection, and security of the people, nation or community; of all the various modes and forms of government that is best, which is capable of producing the greatest degree of happiness and safety and is most effectually secured against the danger of maladministration; and that, whenever any government shall be found inadequate or contrary to these purposes, a majority of the community hath an indubitable, unalienable, and indefeasible right to reform, alter or abolish it, in such manner as shall be judged most conducive to the public weal.

IV That no man, or set of men, are entitled to exclusive or separate emoluments or privileges from the community, but in consideration of public services; which, not being descendible, neither ought the offices of magistrate, legislator, or judge be hereditary.

V That the legislative and executive powers of the state should be separate and distinct from the judicative; and, that the members of the two first may be restrained from oppression by feeling and participating the burthens of the people, they should, at fixed periods, be reduced to a private station, return into that body from which they were originally taken, and the vacancies be supplied by frequent, certain, and regular elections in which all, or any part of the former members, to be again eligible, or ineligible, as the laws shall direct.

VI That elections of members to serve as representatives of the people in assembly ought to be free; and that all men, having sufficient evidence of permanent common interest with, and attachment to, the community have the right of suffrage and cannot be taxed or deprived of their property for public uses without their own consent or that of their representatives so elected, nor bound by any law to which they have not, in like manner, assented, for the public good.

VII That all power of suspending laws, or the execution of laws, by any authority without consent of the representatives of the people is injurious to their rights and ought not to be exercised.

VIII That in all capital or criminal prosecutions a man hath a right to demand the cause and nature of his accusation to be confronted with the accusers and witnesses, to call for evidence in his favor, and to a speedy trial by an impartial jury of his vicinage, without whose unanimous consent he cannot be found guilty, nor can he be compelled to give evidence against himself; that no man be deprived of his liberty except by the law of the land or the judgement of his peers.

IX That excessive bail ought not to be required, nor excessive fines imposed; nor cruel and unusual punishments inflicted.

X That general warrants, whereby any officer or messenger may be commanded to search suspected places without evidence of a fact committed, or to seize any person or persons not named, or whose offense is not particularly described and supported by evidence, are grievous and oppressive and ought not to be granted.

XI That in controversies respecting property and in suits between man and man, the ancient trial by jury is preferable to any other and ought to be held sacred.

XII That the freedom of the press is one of the greatest bulwarks of liberty and can never be restrained but by despotic governments.

XIII That a well regulated militia, composed of the body of the people, trained to arms, is the proper, natural, and safe defense of a free state; that standing armies, in time of peace, should be avoided as dangerous to liberty; and that, in all cases, the military should be under strict subordination to, and be governed by, the civil power.

XIV That the people have a right to uniform government; and therefore, that no government separate from, or independent of, the government of Virginia, ought to be erected or established within the limits thereof.

XV That no free government, or the blessings of liberty, can be preserved to any people but by a firm adherence to justice, moderation, temperance, frugality, and virtue and by frequent recurrence to fundamental principles.

XVI That religion, or the duty which we owe to our Creator and the manner of discharging it, can be directed by reason and conviction, not by force or violence; and therefore, all men are equally entitled to the free exercise of religion, according to the dictates of conscience; and that it is the mutual duty of all to practice Christian forbearance, love, and charity towards each other.

Adopted unanimously June 12, 1776 Virginia Convention of Delegates drafted by Mr. George Mason

DeaconBenjamin  posted on  2005-05-18   23:53:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut (#4)

YEah- he lost me with that sentence and the rest of the military worshiping tripe. Praising some asshat "veteran" who I will guarantee you lied about being "spat on" for spitting a wad of tobacco juice on a seventy year old woman is also where he more than lost me but outraged me. That fool is the type of cretin who would be reporting on his neighbors to the feds like the good little BOT I have no doubt he is.

This author is fooling himself if thinks most veterans will serve on the side of liberty. They will form the Federal Freikorp in reality.

Burkeman1  posted on  2005-05-19   0:09:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Critter (#10)

I am one of those who believe the end of the republic (if we ever really had one) came at the start of the war between the states.

I posted almost the same words the other day. And as for the National ID, I share your sentiment on that as well. Good thing we're so compatible, hmmm? ;)

christine  posted on  2005-05-19   0:34:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: DeaconBenjamin, willyone (#11)

When did the Constitution it ever say the pursuit of property? Attribution please.

This from a researcher friend:

Remember Jefferson was delegated the responsibility for drafting the Declaration by a committee. I read several blurbs from old History of the UIS books at University that early drafts said Life, Liberty, and Property, but that after Jefferson’s 2nd or 3rd draft, Ben Franklin, George Mason, and another I can’t remember went over it with him and their consensus opinion was to word it Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness. The early drafts were written on paper made of hemp from Jefferson’s Monticello estate. The latter drafts were on sheep skin, I think. We came so close. One early draft read unanimous consent of the governed instead of consent of the governed. What a difference that would have made. I think if the word unanimous had been left in, Albert Gallatin would have led the mob of farmers into Philadelphia to lynch Congress rather than calming them down and giving Washington time to organize an armed response to the Whiskey Rebellion. We came so close.

There are many good books on the Founders that may discuss these early drafts of the D of I, the Constitution, and Bill of Rights. Richard McDonald’s web page www.state-citizen.org is a good starting place for info on these subjects. Ralph Winterrowd at www.jusbelli.com is another good source. Jim

****

Also, note the importance placed on "property" in the 5th Amendment:

FIFTH AMENDMENT [U.S. Constitution] - 'No person shall be held to answer for a capital, or otherwise infamous crime, unless on a presentment or indictment of a Grand Jury, except in cases arising in the land or naval forces, or in the Militia, when in actual service in time of War or public danger; nor shall any person be subject for the same offence to be twice put in jeopardy of life or limb, nor shall be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself, nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor shall private property be taken for public use without just compensation.'

christine  posted on  2005-05-19   1:12:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: christine (#14)

All wealth comes from the ground, and all capital is the result of production. There can be no general freedom without the RIGHT TO OWN PROPERTY.

When America bankrupted under FDR, the property of the nation was "hypothecated" giving the Federal Corporation an underlying and liened ownership interest. The peoples freedom has deteriorated under this doctrine which usurps private ownership. The nation was put on a steady diet of credit and fiat currency that flys in the face of the Biblical teachings against unfair weights and measures and usury, which has merely staved off foreclosure for a period of 70 years.

The War OF Terror is the headline, the confiscation of middle east oil is the fine print. America is being allowed to recollateralize its debt to the international cabal of parasitic bankers that have never produced one thing of substance ... besides the international debt based upon paper currency and interest.

There is no question that the Bankers have frauded us with the help of our PATRIOTIC POLITICIANS ... but we too share in the guilt of war mongering, murder and mayhem, because it is our complicity with the system that condones the system's activities. We participate and fund a murderous system and accept its benefits ... we need to take a hard look at ourselves and decide to just say FUCK NO, no more ... I quit, get the fuck out of my life to the evil empire.

We need to say "THE FAKE BUCK STOPS HERE ... AND NOW !

noone222  posted on  2005-05-19   6:32:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: christine (#13)

Good thing we're so compatible, hmmm? ;)

Amazing, isn't it?

You have any plans for the rest of your life? ;)

Critter  posted on  2005-05-19   7:43:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Critter (#10)

I simply refuse to live as a subject any longer. I will live my life as I see fit and resist at all cost the man that tries to stop me. We'll see how long I last once the National ID kicks in. Not long I imagine, cuz I won't get one and won't be jailed for not having one.

The time is here and now to resist the never ending encroachment of Federal Bureaucracy. The majority of good folks are expected to comply with the dictates of govt that always ooze out of D.C. as a corrective measure related to a problem created by a few people. Yet, the vast majority is expected to accept the treatment necessary to correct a minority of violators.

Additionally, more laws being cranked out 24/7 creates more law breakers to the point where we find ourselves becoming a vast ocean of criminals instead of free people.

I agree with your position on the national I.D. ... I have taken that position on the Driver License requiring a SSN ... c-ya in Paradise !

noone222  posted on  2005-05-19   8:01:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Burkeman1, 1776, Zipporah, Fred Mertz (#12)

I agree with you. When I read what he writes about Jane Fonda that raised my suspicion--hell, she is seventy years old and what she did was 40 years ago. The idiot who spit on her was and is an asshole.

Then he goes on and on about "communists"--yes, that old boogey man-- "communists". Of course, mention of the the elephant in the living room, ZIONISM, is omitted. The American Communist Party has NOT been the moving force in the promotion of the 45 Communists Goals in America (they NEVER had the power, influence, orgainization, support, members, clout, etc...)--it is and has been the Zionists and thier buddies in the American big business elite and the American liberal establishment (noting that the Zionists have now latched onto certain American "conservatives" and a large segment of American "Christians" in furtherance of the Zionist cause).

While it does contain some accurate observations/warnings, this piece nonetheless sounds like it was written by the likes of LP's Ghost of Quantrill.

wbales  posted on  2005-05-19   8:10:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: wbales (#18)

Then he goes on and on about "communists"--yes, that old boogey man-- "communists".

Which form of government will be the WMD of choice in a nation seems to me to make little difference to those oppressed or even killed by it.

The "ism's" are all godless ... therein lies the real problem. People truly walking a godly life, mind their own business, don't steal from each other (even through government sanctioned socialism), and should be consumed with getting to know their God.

Godlessness is the real old BOGEYMAN that becomes evident through "HUMANISM".

noone222  posted on  2005-05-19   8:17:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: wbales (#18)

I get a kick out of BOTS that run around calling everyone "commie" that disagrees with their Dear Leader as if there actaully are any commies outside of some aged Jews in the East Village and some geriatric "Weathermen" turned Gourmet restaraunt owners in LA. These idiots actually live in fear of some vast commie plot. Nevermind that their Dear Leader is more of a socialist big government guy than CLinton- it is all about culture perception to these idiots rather than policy. You are a "Commie pink" to LP BOTS if you don't buy their particular line on history or approve of things like spitting on Seventy year old women or mouth moron idiocy about how Hippies lost us Viet Nam. Their Dear Leader could nationalize all agriculture but as long as he called it something different from a "collective farm" - maybe a "Christian Freedom Community"- the BOTS would swallow it and be calling those that opposed the idea "commies". They are laughable retards whose vote is guaranteed as long as their cultural hot buttons are pushed.

I can't tell you how many times some BOT traitor on LP has had the balls to call my opposition to their Dear Leader's Trotskyite radical foreign policy a "leftist". Yes- for wanting my country not to be spending Hundreds of billions on boogeymen enenmies, for oppossing giving DC more power at every single turn over the states and in violation of the constitution, and wanting it to mind it's own business and not run off on crazed crusades formulated in the brains of half educated little Ivy league faggots these disgusting BOTS call me a "Commie"! Man- they are out of their tiny skulls.

They suffer from mass projection. They equate supporting the Feds in it's crazed war plans "patriotism". They have a child's view of politics.

Burkeman1  posted on  2005-05-19   9:50:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: robin (#2)

then "unusually" obtained Real ID (UnReal ID) must be okay too. Hypothetically speaking, an extra one with an hispanic surname, would bring many financial advantages. Or maybe something Jewish

Perhaps some Jewish name like "Norm Coleman"? Good luck... Jewish people have put so much effort into trying to not look Jewish, that they've also made it difficult to look Jewish.

h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t  posted on  2005-05-19   10:21:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: noone222 (#17)

the dictates of govt that always ooze out of D.C. as a corrective measure related to a problem created by a few people

Or a problem which doesn't even exist, but which is created in the public mind by government propagandists/powermongers and is then trumpeted ad nauseam by the now state-run media.

Examples: the "problem" with social security, the "problem" with getting "help" to mentally ill children by "catching their illness early", the "problem" of "people not being allowed to say Merry Christmas", the "problem" with airport security which (oh, goodness gracious I'm so scared about airport security!) necessitated its takeover by the federal government, etc.

h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t  posted on  2005-05-19   10:30:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Burkeman1 (#12)

This author is fooling himself if thinks most veterans will serve on the side of liberty. They will form the Federal Freikorp in reality.

There are exceptions, but in general I find that veterans are quite committed to, and dependent upon, government and taxes.

Mr Nuke Buzzcut  posted on  2005-05-19   10:31:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: wbales (#18)

While it does contain some accurate observations/warnings, this piece nonetheless sounds like it was written by the likes of LP's Ghost of Quantrill.

LOL, let me take another look at the article to see if it has lots of misspelled obscene personal attacks and limpdick threats, and whether it is two sentences or less.

Okay, it doesn't exactly qualify, but maybe this article is how Ghost of Incest will write when he/she/it grows up.

h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t  posted on  2005-05-19   10:34:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: Mr Nuke Buzzcut, Burkeman1 (#23)

Speaking of general traits of military and ex-military people, it occurs to me that a talent for unquestioningly doing what you're told must be an important part of such a person's psyche.

This would seem to make military and ex-military just the kind of people who might blindly and unquestioningly follow some demented fascistic leader. Guess we'll find out when we have such a leader. Oh, wait... we've already got one...

h-a-l-f-w-i-t-t  posted on  2005-05-19   10:39:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: noone222 (#15)

All wealth comes from the ground, and all capital is the result of production. There can be no general freedom without the RIGHT TO OWN PROPERTY.

do you know how few truly understand that concept--the right to PRIVATE PROPERTY?

christine  posted on  2005-05-19   12:03:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Critter (#16)

christine  posted on  2005-05-19   12:51:09 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: christine (#27)

Critter  posted on  2005-05-19   20:37:09 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Critter (#28)

just what i had in mind!

christine  posted on  2005-05-19   20:49:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Burkeman1 (#20)

They equate supporting the Feds in it's crazed war plans "patriotism". They have a child's view of politics.

What I have noticed about the bots on LP, e.g., Quantril, languid, Trace and the rest, is that they genuinely hate the American freedoms and American ideals that have been a part of this country for the past 200 years. Anyone who stands up for a liberty issue or American ideal at the expense of their tin god is labeled a "commie".

It's unfortunate that most are so limited. If they had a little more imagination they would realize that it's very easy to have the benefits of a society ruled by a strong man dictator where all dissent is quashed. They need only move to many of the south American or Arab countries. There is no need for them to be consumed with seething hatred the the American ideals that have been in place for 200 years. The society they long for exists today and will gladly accept them.

crack monkey  posted on  2005-05-19   21:10:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: crack monkey (#30)

Some of those you mentioned have obvious serious mental health problems that have nothing to do with their politics and I won't pick on them.

Burkeman1  posted on  2005-05-19   21:18:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Burkeman1 (#31)

Some of those you mentioned have obvious serious mental health problems that have nothing to do with their politics and I won't pick on them.

That's an interesting way of looking at it, but they have alwasy seemed lucid to me. To me it appears that they simply follow preconceived notions and ignore any evidence that contradicts what they have decided - in advance - to believe. But I don't have as much experience with them as you do. Do you find them to be actually irrational?

crack monkey  posted on  2005-05-19   21:27:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: crack monkey (#32)

I find one in paticular to be unbalanced, prone to rage, and I think has a severe alchohol problem. The others are just as you described.

Burkeman1  posted on  2005-05-19   21:40:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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