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Title: C.I.A. Chief Tries Preaching a Culture of More Openness
Source: The New York Times
URL Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/23/washington/23hayden.html
Published: Jun 23, 2007
Author: MARK MAZZETTI
Post Date: 2007-06-23 13:30:37 by robin
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Views: 286
Comments: 27

June 23, 2007

C.I.A. Chief Tries Preaching a Culture of More Openness

By MARK MAZZETTI

WASHINGTON, June 22 — William E. Colby faced an uneasy decision in late 1973 when he took over the Central Intelligence Agency: whether to make public the agency’s internal accounting, then being compiled, of its domestic spying, assassination plots and other misdeeds since its founding nearly three decades earlier.

Mr. Colby decided to keep the so-called family jewels a secret, and wrote in his memoir in 1978 that he believed the agency’s already sullied reputation, including a link to the Watergate scandal, could not have withstood a public airing of all its dirty laundry.

So why, at a time when the agency has again been besieged by criticism, this time for its program of secret detentions and interrogations since the Sept. 11 attacks, would the current director, Gen. Michael V. Hayden, decide to declassify the same documents that Mr. Colby chose to keep secret?

In an appearance Thursday where he announced that the “family jewels” would be released next week, General Hayden said it was essential for the C.I.A., an organization built on a bedrock of secrecy, to be as open as possible in order to build public trust and dispel myths surrounding its operations. The more that the agency can tell the public, he said, the less chance that misinformation among the public will “fill the vacuum.”

It was this outlook that General Hayden, whose public relations skills are well known in Washington, brought to an earlier job. There, as director of the National Security Agency, he tried to overhaul the N.S.A.’s public image — that of the shadowy, menacing organization portrayed in the movie “Enemy of the State” — by inviting reporters to briefings and authorizing its officials to speak to the author James Bamford for his book on the agency, “Body of Secrets.”

Is next week’s release of documents a reflection of similar openness that he has now brought to the C.I.A., where he arrived little more than a year ago? Yes, says Mark Mansfield, agency spokesman, who adds that since last October the agency has cut by more than half the number of unresolved Freedom of Information Act petitions dating back five years or more, by systematically declassifying volumes of historical material.

Mr. Bamford said one cynical interpretation of the move to declassify the family jewels could be that the agency was looking to make the operations for which it has most recently been criticized seem less nefarious by contrasting them with what went on in the old days. But John E. McLaughlin, a former deputy director of central intelligence, said he saw no motive other than a genuine desire by General Hayden to deal head on with a fundamental tension: the C.I.A. is a secret organization operating in an open society.

Mr. Bamford gives General Hayden credit for being more committed to openness than some of his predecessors. But he is quick to point out that by law, all classified material must eventually be declassified, warts and all.

“If somebody obeys the law, you shouldn’t get a medal for it,” he said. “It’s part of his job.”

Still, pushing for greater openness — “transparency,” in Washington jargon — can be a treacherous path. Mr. Colby, who later in his tenure began a campaign to declassify many of the C.I.A.’s secrets, became an unpopular figure within the agency’s ranks. Many there believed that he, along with some successors who made similar efforts, were conducting little more than publicity campaigns in a rush to reveal the darkest secrets of the past.

General Hayden’s decision to declassify the family jewels now has been greeted negatively by some C.I.A. veterans, who say it could be a blow to the morale of a proud organization afflicted by turmoil during the last five years.

“C.I.A. officers, especially the young officers, want to belong to an organization that has a history and tradition they can look up to,” said one recently retired veteran, who insisted on anonymity because he had been an undercover officer. “If you put something out that says the founders of the agency were a bunch of criminals, that doesn’t exactly help.”


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#1. To: robin (#0)

More openess? The size and budget of the CIA are not known. They are "secrets". The Chairmen of the Senate intelligence committee is John D Rockefeller- a long time oligarchic ruling family and one of the key "Houses" behind the scenes of Beltway power politics in this country for going on 100 years now.

One member of the Senate committee was once quoted as saying that they don't "oversee" anything the CIA or the vast sprawling "intelligence community" does. They are told what the CIA wants to tell them and they know what the CIA wants them to know. There is no civilain control of the "intelligence community". It is a law unto itself. The only thing that checks the power of the CIA are rivalries within the ruling Beltway oligarchy itself. Nothing else. Certainly not our flimsy powerless for show potemkin "Congress".

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Burkeman1  posted on  2007-06-23   14:00:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: All (#1)

The only "reform" for the CIA is its complete dismantling and full disclosure of ALL its activities followed with criminal trials for the worst of its murderers and law breakers.

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Burkeman1  posted on  2007-06-23   14:01:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Burkeman1 (#1)

It is a law unto itself. The only thing that checks the power of the CIA are rivalries within the ruling Beltway oligarchy itself.

Explains a lot of the UnAmerican Activities we've witnessed or heard rumors about for decades.


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robin  posted on  2007-06-23   14:12:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: robin (#0)

Memo to Gen.Hayden:

Stay away from the water.

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Lod  posted on  2007-06-23   14:13:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: robin (#3)

Who is the minority Vice Chairmen of the Senate Intelligence committee? Kit Bond of Missouri. Who is Kit Bond? The Grandson of A.P. Green, founder of AP Green industries which started out essentially as a brick manufacturer and is now a sprawling company (ANH Refractories) all over the world selling cement, metal processing, glass, and services for basic building materials like steel and cement.

This low key but huge company had its early success in two periods. World War One- and World War Two- as it grew by leaps and bounds on gubmint "defense" money each time. And now Grandson is ensuring its future with more wars.

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Burkeman1  posted on  2007-06-23   14:29:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Burkeman1, *Mercenaries - War Profiteers* (#5)

And now Grandson is ensuring its future with more wars.

The Von Krupp family had the same goals....

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,722420,00.html

illuminati member?
http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/bloodlines/krupp.htm

I read a book about this family's history once, it might have been this one:
http://www.amazon.com/Arms-Krupp-William-Manchester/dp/055325992X

One review:

As business histories go, "Arms of Krupp," an 800 page indictment of the Krupp steelworks dynasty (and the regimes that supported it), is a bizarre saga. After a brisk prologue that takes us from 1587 through to the beginning of the nineteenth century, we first meet Alfried Krupp, "Cannon King" and warmonger, a man who believed fresh horse manure was good for the lungs and whose radical cannon designs laid the basis for Prussia's victories in the Austrian and French wars. Next we meet Gustav Krupp, suspected pederast, whose likely suicide only barely saved him from tabloid disgrace. Then to Gustav von Bohlen und Halbach, an "adoptive" Krupp, chosen by the Kaiser to marry the surviving female heir, Bertha (who gave her name to the "Big Bertha" 410 mm cannon of World War One).

Finally -- and this is the book's real focus -- we turn to Alfried Krupp, the last Krupp to run the Essen steelworks. Manchester gives over about 1/3 of the book to detailing Alfried's involvement in the Nazi slavery racket and his subsequent conviction for war crimes. As Manchester shows, the Krupp crimes were at least as serious, if not worse, than those of I.G. Farben, and it is nothing short of extraordinary that Alfried von Krupp was pardoned by the American military governor. Krupp went on to refloat the Krupp works, only to see it collapse under a mountain of debt in 1968.

This is a book that takes us from the giddy heights of nineteenth century robber baron-ism to the full unmitigated horrors of the Nazi war complex, and manages to mix humour (for much of the early Krupp saga is frankly hilarious) with deep compassion and sensitivity to the victims of the war. A tour de force.


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robin  posted on  2007-06-23   14:42:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: robin (#6)

Krupp was part of the German corporate cabal that green lighted Hitler and backed him (he never would have come to power without the support of men like Krupp). Indeed- it was after Hitler made his deal with the Corporatist barons of Germany that he purged the "socialism" out of his "National Socialist" movement- by purging the hard core economic radicals (like Ernst Rohm- head of the SA) and he toned down his class war rhetoric.

Of course- in the United States- our Corporate elite don't do stuff like this.

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Burkeman1  posted on  2007-06-23   14:49:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Burkeman1 (#7)

Of course- in the United States- our Corporate elite don't do stuff like this.

Yeah right ;p

I will say I don't know of an American war mongering family with such a long and colorful history.

from 1587 through to the beginning of the nineteenth century, we first meet Alfried Krupp, "Cannon King" and warmonger, a man who believed fresh horse manure was good for the lungs and whose radical cannon designs laid the basis for Prussia's victories in the Austrian and French wars. Next we meet Gustav Krupp, suspected pederast, whose likely suicide only barely saved him from tabloid disgrace. Then to Gustav von Bohlen und Halbach, an "adoptive" Krupp, chosen by the Kaiser to marry the surviving female heir, Bertha (who gave her name to the "Big Bertha" 410 mm cannon of World War One).

Maybe the DuPont family?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DuPont

BTW, wiki has no page in english on the von Krupp family that I could find.

1802

DuPont was founded in 1802 by Eleuthère Irénée du Pont, two years after he and his family left France to escape the French Revolution. The company began as a manufacturer of gunpowder, as he had noticed that the industry in North America was lagging behind Europe and saw a market for it. The company grew quickly, and by the mid nineteenth century had become the largest supplier of gunpowder to the United States military, supplying as much as half of the powder used by the Union Army during the American Civil War.

It wouldn't surprise me if Prescott Bush had illusions of such grandeur.


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robin  posted on  2007-06-23   14:56:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: robin (#8)

Interesting information on our munitions merchants. Thank you.

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Lod  posted on  2007-06-23   15:04:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: lodwick (#9)

Alfried Krupp, "Cannon King" and warmonger, a man who believed fresh horse manure was good for the lungs and whose radical cannon designs laid the basis for Prussia's victories in the Austrian and French wars.

Don't ask me why, but the trivia from the book I remember is the bit about the horse manure. He built his mansion downwind from the stables intentionally. ;D


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robin  posted on  2007-06-23   15:11:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: robin (#10)

Here is the page. It seems the first Krupp got his start in business by buying up the properties of Plauge victims in Essen. The next Krupp became a supplier of guns to all sides during the murderous and horrorfying 30 Years War.

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Burkeman1  posted on  2007-06-23   15:17:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Burkeman1, lodwick (#11)

Thank you! How typical ugly American, to remove the "von".

It seems the first Krupp got his start in business by buying up the properties of Plague victims in Essen. The next Krupp became a supplier of guns to all sides during the murderous and horrorfying 30 Years War.

Damn, now it's personal. That's when my Protestant German ancestors were forced to leave the Catholic strongholds of SE Bavaria, etc. Eventually they made it here, with little but their surviving children. Nevertheless, I won't be sending the von Krupps a thank you card.

Do you suppose that first von Krupp was immune to the plague? (CCR-5) Or just one of the lucky ones who could hide in an estate somewhere. Profiting from the dead. Usually the entire family died, whom did he purchase it from?


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robin  posted on  2007-06-23   15:36:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: robin (#12) (Edited)

Here are some other interesting facts about the rest of our "civilain" politicians who sit on the Sentate Intelligence Committe. Real cross section of America these people are:

Of the 15 members:

7 are either members or have relatives or spouses who are members of the Council of Foreign Relations.

3 Are Jewish (1.8 percent of the population).

6 are Episcopalian (1.8 percent of the population).

1 Catholic (27 percent of the population)

1 Orthodox Greek (0.3 percent of the population)

1 Methodist (8.3 percent of the population)

1 Mormon (1.5 Percent of the Population)

Only two could be considered to be not life long DC political apparatchiks (if 15 years in DC isn't considered a "career" politician- Richard Burr and Saxby Chambliss (but both are Gingrich class of 94' dopes.)

Of the rest:

Evan Bayh: Son of a Senator and a CFR member. Almost killed in a "plane crash" with Teddy in 64'.

Diane Feinstein: wife of Richard Blum. Billionare and chief stock holder of Perini- the 36th largest defense contractor and a member of CFR.

Bill Nelson: Life long career DC apparatchik.

Jahn Warner: Literally a son of DC- grew up in DC and attended the elite Albans private school where many a DC Beltway insider attended. Married a grandaughter of Andrew Mellon. He lost his first Senate bid to Richard Obenshain- only to chosen in a second "special election" when Obenshain was killed in a . . . plane crash shortly after winning. Warner has channeled hundreds of billions to Virginia ship yards on navy contracts over the years.

Barbara Mukulski: The lone Catholic, has been a life long DC career politician.

Sheldon Whitehouse: Another literal son of DC. Father and Grandfather were esteemed diplomats. Career politician. CFR member.

Chuck Hegal. Career Apparatchik. CFR member.

Orin Hatch. Career DC toad.

Olympia Snowe. Career politician. CFR member.

And of course- Rockefellar and Bond are both old money with deep DC ties.

Note the conspicuous lack of representation of Celtic (Scott Irish, and Irish) or Germanic backrounds on this highly anglophile crucial committee.

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Burkeman1  posted on  2007-06-23   16:59:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Burkeman1 (#13)

Note the conspicuous lack of representation of Celtic (Scott Irish, and Irish) or Germanic backgrounds on this highly anglophile crucial committee.

They cause too much trouble (my nickname for the Scottish branches of my family tree is "the troublemakers").

I'm not sure Anglophile is the right description. Also, breaking out the Protestants for percentages is a stretch, IMO.

This one doesn't seem too awful:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barbara_Mikulski

Barbara Mikulski: The lone Catholic, has been a life long DC career politician.

And the Mormon is likely part German and/or Scottish.


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robin  posted on  2007-06-23   17:08:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: robin (#14)

6 Espicopalians and three Jews on this committee, given their tiny percentage of the population- and only one Catholic is interesting at the very least.

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Burkeman1  posted on  2007-06-23   17:13:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Burkeman1 (#15)

Well that is disproportionate to be sure.


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robin  posted on  2007-06-23   17:15:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Burkeman1, robin, religionists here (#15)

Episcopalians are just Catholics who can marry, aren't they?

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Lod  posted on  2007-06-23   17:32:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: robin (#10)

Don't ask me why, but the trivia from the book I remember is the bit about the horse manure. He built his mansion downwind from the stables intentionally.

Dear God.

That book sounds dopey enough to read it.

You have to wonder about the powers of the person who pimped him on the therapeutic benefit of snorting horse-hockey fumes.

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Lod  posted on  2007-06-23   17:37:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: lodwick (#17)

They are basically the American Branch of the Anglican Church.

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Burkeman1  posted on  2007-06-23   17:37:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: lodwick (#17)

I almost posted something like that, Catholics w/o the Pope.


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robin  posted on  2007-06-23   17:39:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: robin (#16)

And not to get into "conspiracy theory". But one member (Sheldon Whitehouse) is the son of a Bonesman. Rockefeller has a Bonesman in his family tree. And Bond and Burr are highly likely to have at least one Skull and Bones ancestor as well.

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Burkeman1  posted on  2007-06-23   17:40:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Burkeman1 (#19)

They are basically the American Branch of the Anglican Church.

Thanks.

All this shiite is why my "church," is the Salvation Army and the Bible today.

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#23. To: lodwick, Burkeman1, *Black Ops - Psyops* (#22)

CIA reveals decades of plots, kidnaps and wiretaps

http://www.guardian.co.uk/usa/story/0,,2109513,00.html

.....

Domestic operations include the illegal detention and interrogation of a Russian defector, the wiretapping of columnists Robert Allen and Paul Scott, and the surveillance of other journalists including the late Jack Anderson. Several illegal break-ins are also listed.

In the minutes, Colby says some US citizens had been subjected to "unwitting" CIA drug experiments to induce "behaviour modification". The CIA also illegally amassed 9,900 files on Americans involved in anti-war activities.

The minutes state that the CIA "plotted the assassination of some foreign leaders including [Fidel] Castro, [Patrice] Lumumba [Democratic Republic of Congo] and [Rafael] Trujillo [Dominican Republic]." They go on: "With respect to Trujillo's assassination on May 30 1961, the CIA had 'no active part' but had a 'faint connection' with the groups that in fact did it."

In an official record of a White House meeting with President Ford the next day, on January 4 1975, a rattled Henry Kissinger, the secretary of state and national security adviser, argues that the existence of the "family jewels" dossier, and its partial leaking, may turn into a major scandal - with the FBI investigating the CIA.

"What is happening is worse than in the days of McCarthy. You will end up with a CIA that does only reporting, not operations ... What Colby has done is a disgrace," Mr Kissinger tells Ford. "All these stories are just the tip of the iceberg. If they come out, blood will flow. For example, Robert Kennedy [the former attorney-general] personally managed the operation on the assassination of Castro."


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robin  posted on  2007-06-23   17:49:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: lodwick (#22)

I wouldn't get caught up in the theological beliefs of Episcopalians. To the Anglo American elite who call themselves Episcopalian- religion has long been little more than ceremoney to them- baptized, married, and buried is about the only time these types see the inside of a church. To be Episcopalian to these types doesn't convey what they believe spiritually- but it is more of a tribal marker- a cultural and racial identity.

This isn't to say that there aren't legit true believing Episcopalians out there who take their religion seriously- but seldom are they to be found among our DC Beltway elite.

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Burkeman1  posted on  2007-06-23   17:50:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: robin (#23)

Bleck. Not even the tip of the iceberg of abuse and crimes the CIA has committed.

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Burkeman1  posted on  2007-06-23   17:51:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: Burkeman1 (#21)

that would not be conspiracy. nepotism would be a more accurate descriptor, don't you think? i'm astounded, really, when i learn how all of these elites are connected through *secret* organizations such as Skull&Bones.

christine  posted on  2007-06-23   17:55:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Burkeman1 (#25)

What Colby has done is a disgrace," Mr Kissinger tells Ford. "All these stories are just the tip of the iceberg. If they come out, blood will flow.

They get to control what and how the story is told.


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robin  posted on  2007-06-23   17:56:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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