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Title: Workers (illegals protesting) Get Soaked by Pulte Homes!
Source: You Tube
URL Source: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ml00 ... 2F2007%2F6%2F24%2F144521%2F140
Published: Jun 24, 2007
Author: AFLCIONow
Post Date: 2007-06-24 15:25:52 by Zipporah
Keywords: None
Views: 321
Comments: 30

this is the commentary on You Tube:

"The video shows Pulte representatives out of control—frustrated at workers demonstrating at construction sites within their developments. Pulte Homes then assaults them with high-pressure water from Pulte water trucks. As the housing market continues to sink in Florence and the rest of the metropolitan area, Pulte Homes dropped its good guy image when it came to the workers who build their homes.

Workers demanding justice from Pulte Homes' construction subcontractors were shocked when the well-know homebuilder began directing its water truck drivers to repeatedly douse workers with high-pressure water. Workers, with dripping clothes and soggy shoes, maintained their calm and continued their peaceful demonstration even as they counted up to 16 separate water assaults in one day. Israel Hernandez, a painter who worked on hundreds of Pulte/Del Webb homes in the Phoenix area, paused while wiping water from the video camera lens, remarking, "This wasn't what we meant when we ask for drinking water on the job site." (more) "

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#1. To: Zipporah (#0)

"This wasn't what we meant when we ask for drinking water on the job site."

Get used to it. This is CORPORATIONS RULE law. Do not interfere with commerce, worker-bee.

richard9151  posted on  2007-06-24   16:12:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: richard9151 (#1)

Get used to it.

Hmmm, let's see here...

People trespassing on private property refuse to leave. Property owner gets annoyed and ejects them.

Actually, that's how it should be - unless you think breaking and entering is a virtue.

mirage  posted on  2007-06-24   16:53:10 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: mirage (#3)

People trespassing on private property refuse to leave.

Ummm. Interesting. Workers trespassing. How does that work? Curious, you know.

And if you note the man who said the words I quoted, he is stated to have worked on hundreds of homes, so I doubt that he is illegal. And if he is, there are existing laws about that, as I recall, which include fines, if applicable, and deportation PLUS, if they are enforced, fines for the company hiring him.

I also have a nephew (my wife's) working house construction in Arizona. Been there 10 years, married to a Latino from the states, completely legal and been that way for many years. So, this ain't all about illegals, thank you.

It seems to me that the issues go beyond what everyone here is stating, and, PROBABLY revolve around Pulte wanting to use more (cheaper) illegals now because of slumping home sales.

Of course, everyone probably better get used to THAT.

richard9151  posted on  2007-06-24   18:09:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: richard9151 (#8)

Ummm. Interesting. Workers trespassing. How does that work? Curious, you know.

The workers are not the owners of the property. If they're launching a protest, the owner has the absolute right to tell them to get lost or restrict their access to the job site. The employer also has the right to issue worksite rules detailing what employees can and cannot do on the worksite.

Its pretty cut-and-dried.

You'll note I'm not even bothering to address the immigration status of the workers; this is simply a property rights issue coupled with the employer's authority to regulate the activities of the employees.

A protest on a construction site is easily deemed "unsafe" and 'protesting' employees may be ejected for simple safety concerns.

mirage  posted on  2007-06-24   18:36:24 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: mirage (#16)

The workers are not the owners of the property.

Alright. I'll buy that. I still like the quote though! I'm still laughing about it.

This wasn't what we meant when we ask for drinking water on the job site."

And I am thinking back to the post on 4um the other day where it was explained how a law firm had produced a video on how to hire green card workers, while refusing to hire Americans for the same work. Americans who they would have to pay more too.

And in what I am seeing, and after all of the adds I have seen down here about LOTTERY FOR 50,000 GREEN CARDS THIS MONTH!, I still think that what this is about is Pulte looking to cut costs by bringing in more illegal and/or green card workers at lower pay.

Just as the immigration action currently in the Senate is all about the same thing;

see the post in the immigration thread: Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965

richard9151  posted on  2007-06-24   18:51:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: richard9151 (#19)

see the post in the immigration thread: Immigration and Nationality Act of 1965

Oh I know all about that. Its just one of the cycles the US goes through.

It generally goes like this, historically:
Large Wave of Immigration -> Resentment + Economic downturn -> Restrictions -> Time Passes -> Open Borders again -> Wash, rinse, repeat.

We're at the "Resentment + Downturn" phase of it right now. This same thing was played out in the 1920s after the "Great Wave" - and before that, in the 1800s.

Today is no different. It will end up playing out the same way as it has in the past.

mirage  posted on  2007-06-24   19:31:12 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: mirage (#21)

Oh I know all about that. Its just one of the cycles the US goes through.

Nope, not this time, me thinks. See also;

Importing Poverty: Immigration and Poverty in the United States

THE UNITED STATES POPULATION IN TRANSITION

Then, we have these;

veteran, hardcore Marxists organized the May 1st immigration protests and boycotts.

Dialectics, or, how to destroy America

Dialectics and Marxism

And after you read the one about veteren, hardcore Marxists, try this quote;

"Today, America would be outraged if UN troops entered Los Angeles to restore order. Tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government." Henry Kissinger

I think that Zionist-Marxist such as Kissinger know exactly what is going on and where America is headed.

richard9151  posted on  2007-06-24   19:37:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#23. To: richard9151 (#22)

Similar groups of people have been around for each cycle.

The key to remember is that things are cyclical and trend toward that.

When the cycle breaks is when revolutions occur. I don't think this one will go quite that far, but I do think that it will follow past cycles. This one may lead to actual violence as it has in the past, but I don't think it will quite go to revolution levels.

Large Forces were arrayed in the past and eventually the masses forced the appropriate changes to make the cycle go. I do not think that the Marxists will prevail. They'll be exposed long before then and brought to heel - violence may also be a part, as it has been in the past - thus correcting the imbalances.

mirage  posted on  2007-06-24 19:47:30 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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