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Title: What is Alex Jones Doing?
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Published: Jun 25, 2007
Author: Mister Clean
Post Date: 2007-06-25 16:05:25 by Mister Clean
Keywords: Alex Jones, 9/11, conspiracy
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What is Alex Jones doing? When I ask his supporters that question they typically answer with something along the lines of, "He's waking people up. He's spreading information." Okay, suppose that's true. People are "waking up" to the horrors of the New World Order as well as 9/11 being an inside job. So what? Nothing is changing as a result of all this "waking up." Every day Alex Jones is ranting about the latest NWO atrocity. Every day he freaks out over the march of the NWO and the planned destruction of America. The 9/11 "truth" movement is big online but in the real world it's going nowhere. In the world of Alex Jones, each day brings some new outrage. Each day the sky gets darker. Each day America is destroyed a little bit more. For all this "waking people up" crap, things aren't getting any better. Just look at Jones' various websites; it's all doom & gloom, all the time. Seems to me, "waking people up" isn't doing jack shit. Except putting money in Alex Jones' bank account.
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Some of us think the truth is worth knowing for its own sake. And some of us, quite clearly, do not.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
And some of us, quite clearly, do not. I suppose it depends on what "truth" you're talking about.
No, I don't think so. You seem to have written that it doesn't matter what Alex Jones may or may not have discovered, because he has had no effect on the real world.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
For example, I don't consider "9/11 was an inside job" to be a discovery. It's a theory.
Nah, on hindsight it's far better being ignorant. It feels so snug, smug, warm, fuzzylike being cocooned in the Dominant Consensual Reality. Why risk being uneasy.
Funny stuff.
So, you admit that, if what Alex Jones has discovered is true, then it's not a waste of time? I think that makes your original posting pointless.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
I'm saying that he hasn't discovered anything that's true. He is promoting conspiracy theories for a living. And conspiracy theories always remain theories. For all his hot air about fighting the NWO and trying to "wake people up" he doesn't have anything to show for it. He can't point to a single victory against the NWO.
Except the ones that are succesful. That's the DCR, otherwise known as History.
So, you admit that what matters is, whether or not what he is saying is true, rather than whether or not he has had any effect?
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
I'm saying that what he says isn't true and it has no effect other than putting money in his pocket.
Conspiracy may refer to An act of working in secret to obtain some goal, usually understood with negative connotations. History and Law Conspiracy (civil), agreement between two or more natural persons to break the law at some time in the future Conspiracy (crime), agreement between two or more natural persons to break the law at some time in the future Conspiracy (political), a plot to overthrow a government or other powers
Mark "I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. [..] and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... — Former NYC Police Officer and 9/11 Rescue Worker Craig Bartmer
very excellent observation Swarthyguy.
Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Sometimes referred to as lunch. I picture a light but flavorful Dover Sole, a fine Chardonnay, sauteed green beans and asparagus, preceded by a Belgian Endive and vine tomato salad with fine silverware and a white tablecloth. "This sole is wonderful, by the way, are we all set in Dallas?"
Or the truths not being talked about, such as allegations that there was ample intelligence prior to 9/11 to have prevented the attacks and possibly arresting the hijackers beforehand, but not acted on by the WH. The case of the Israeli art students seen celebrating the disaster also warrants further investigation.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)
Michael Ruppert claims in Crossing the Rubicon that Brit Hume has stated that Carl Cameron's source for his series on the Israeli art students was none other than Dick Cheney.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
If true, it sounds like more intrigue, for then the show never aired (except in bootlegged internet copies). Was Cheney holding it against Israel for some purpose? Bizarre, considering who worked and still works out of his office and the hawkish pro-Zionist policies being set.
A way to tell the Israelis, fall into line with us, or we will burn you. I know, I know, we're supposed to be their bitch.
It does make me question which way the horse and cart are arranged.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)
Simply put: Alex Jones is the surrender leaflet of choice. The whole idea of "waking up" is fear motivated. Think.
I am not on any Member Subscription, there are too many to keep up with. However, if you wish for my opinion on something, ping me.
My thesis is that many intel agencies were warning and some like the Israelis new of the impending 9/11 (and chose not to warn us) attacks but were rebuffed. 2 reasons why the warnings were rebuffed: 1) The al-Qaeda cell was composed of American intel assets most recently used in Bosnia and the Balkans as well as in Chechnya - the nations warning us were the nations that had suffered at the hands of these CIA cells (Russia, Serbia, India) and thus our agencies distrusted their intel. 2) A segment of our intel community wanted them to attack us - so called Pearl Harbor scenario - leave yourself open to an attack.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
Well, yes, from Arab allies like Jordan to the French and the Russians and the Indians. Conspicously missing are warnings from Pakistan, SaudiArabia and the UK. HA! Imagine if the CHIEF of any other country's Spy Service had been caught wiring 100K to ATTA via OMAR of DannyPearl infamy. If it had been an Iraqi, we'd know his damn DNA code by now. But since it was a Pakistani, ooops, sssshhhh.
You say that "waking up" people isn't doing jack shit. Your call to complacency and despair does even less. I've made no "call to complacency," whatever that means. I'm simply pointing out that Alex Jones is just a loudmouth who profits through selling fear disguised as the "truth" to people desperate to understand our complex world. He's a snake oil salesman, not an activist. His daily 3 hour radio rant, his "documentaries" and his websites aren't doing a damn thing except putting money in his pocket. Nothing that Alex Jones, or any other conspiracy theorist, does is improving anything in America.
Maybe those allegations are just that. Allegations.
He's a snake oil salesman, not an activist. His daily 3 hour radio rant, his "soliloquies" and his websites aren't doing a damn thing except putting money in his pocket. Nothing that Rush Limbaugh, or any other radio talk showhost , does is improving anything in America Mighty pure standard you got there.
He's a snake oil salesman, not an activist. His daily 3 hour radio rant, his "soliloquies" and his websites aren't doing a damn thing except putting money in his pocket. Nothing that Rush Limbaugh, or any other radio talk showhost , does is improving anything in America I agree with all of that. Limbaugh, Jones, Bush, Clinton... all they do is preach fear and unfortunately, there are too many Americans who buy into it. For Limbaugh, the liberals are the biggest threat. True patriots oppose liberals. For Jones, the NWO/globalists are the biggest threat. True patriots oppose the NWO/globalists. For Bush, al-Qaeda is the biggest threat. True patriots oppose al-Qaeda. For Clinton and other liberals, right wingers & corporations are the biggest threat. True patriots oppose right wingers and corporations. There is a HUGE market in America for fear.
You have to be fucking kidding. This Saudi lickspittle, blustered about Osama dead or alive, Osama is free and alive, and the Bush family makes billions from their business deals with the Saudis. James Baker defends the Saudis against the 911 families. Bush said he doesn't care where Osama is, doesn't think much about him. 2000+ days later, the Shaikh is free, his stature unmatched in the Muslim world while Abu Dubya just shrugs. What Bush has done is simply TREASON. He's lucky to have such a bunch of lily livered jello spineless stupid pukes like the Dems against him. It's not all that shocking when you consider the biggest supporter of militant Salafi AQ type extremism has been the US. Bush used fear to obfuscate and confuse the issues; instead of clarifying, he muddied the waters. You're right about the fear; another area where Bush has shown himself incompetent and stupid; however, from the point of view of enhancing the Bush connections with the Saudi moneybags, it's been brilliant. Instead of calming and leading the country with clarity, he's preyed on people's fears, magnifying them and playing them like his fucking guitar during Katrina to put out his version of a totally ineffective fucking war against Islamists. The reason the antiIslamist cause is so discredited is because of that fucker. The threat is there; but looking on this website you will find a lot of skepticism about how dangerous the threat is. That is because the 3rdBase Abu is the one who's so discredited it and fucked it up that no one with a mind can buy it. And don't get me started on a war on a fucking tactic. Imagine Roosevelt saying we have a war against sneak attacks. Absurd Lies. Bush's Legacy. Fuck him.
Absurd Lies. Bush's Legacy. Fuck him. Be careful.... that sounds like me the shilling schmuck will call you a jooater ! " WAIL " The Sky is Falling if such were ever to occur ! LMAO Thanks, JC
For Limbaugh, the liberals are the biggest threat. True patriots oppose liberals. For Jones, the NWO/globalists are the biggest threat. True patriots oppose the NWO/globalists. For Bush, al-Qaeda is the biggest threat. True patriots oppose al-Qaeda. For Clinton and other liberals, right wingers & corporations are the biggest threat. True patriots oppose right wingers and corporations. - mister kleen ROTFLMAO....you mesmerising shill! Read your words. This is NOT El Pee !! The people here are smarter than that! YOUR words say, " Now go to sleep babies, drink the Kool-Aid... this won't hurt much. Don't resist! Don't think. Repeat after me and just drink the Kool-Aid. Just drink the KOOL-AID and DADDY will EASE YOU INTO SLEEP......." I have seen some shills and flying monkey squads...but you are the most insidious and outrageous. Go back to El PEE where you can intimidate STUPID people and hobnob with your Goon Squads and Inane Cheerleaders. JC
The reason the antiIslamist cause is so discredited is because of that fucker. The threat is there; but looking on this website you will find a lot of skepticism about how dangerous the threat is. The threat of terrorism is small just as virtually every threat promoted in America is small. The only threat that lives up to the hype is the multi faceted threat from the invasion of illegal aliens. Muslim savages can't even hold ground in a shithole like Somalia so the idea that they pose a threat to the survival of the US is as stupid as it gets. More than anything else, America is a market. Fear is just a marketing tool used by government, businesses, groups and individuals to sell something. It took me a while to figure out but now I understand how easy it is for bullshit to thrive in this nation.
Do I get some kind of award for that?
Sure.... the "I Bent Over For Trotsky's Tryst".
i'm amused
Great, I'll make a space on my shelf for it.
Great, I'll make a space on my shelf for it. Mister Clean Go check with Gouldi too. I hear on El Pee she and aaron and bulen sabriel have some more for you.
I spelled it wrong... Ghouldi has more for you.
What is it with you people and your fucking awards?
"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs
And as has been shown here in 4um in numerous posts, the illegal immagrant invasion has been promoted by the US government under the control of the Jewish interests. In fact, the only real problem in America is the US government and it's Jewish handlers. So, since that is a given here in 4um, has been discussed and is well understood by most everyone (including you), is there anything else you would like to add? "It was only after World War II that immigration law was drastically changed...In one of the first pieces of evidence of its political coming of age, the Jewish community had a leadership role in effecting those changes." (Earl Raab, Jewish Bulletin, July 23, 1993, p. 17) The 'abolition of racial exclusiveness,' which has (also) been official U.S. Government policy since 1945, was, quite simply, the Jewish Marxist goal of planned genocide of the White Race, because the White Race remained the only possible opposition to the total domination of the world by international Jewish Marxism. No African or Asiatic nation has ever mounted a successful counter-revolution against a Communist regime, nor have they ever desired to. (Cincinnatus, Foreword, War! War! War!)
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
You apparently haven't been paying attention. 9-11 truth is approaching critical mass. Major celebs have stepped up and spoken up thanks to AJ's "waking people up". So have acadamics, current and ex government officials and others. The monopoly of lies foisted by BIG MEDIA has been broken. Ron Paul, a constitutionalist (and long time friend of Alex Jones), is shocking the establishment by the depth, breath and intensity of his support on the Internet. The Constitutionalist movement has been advanced immeasurably by Alex Jones, his websites, films, etc. And yet you denigrate him. Why? What's your beef? And what have you done to make up for what you think he's left undone? Alex Jones can't do it all. He's only one man. But he's done far more than his share. I'm guessing you've got some catching up to do on that score (as do we all).
Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.
Not funny. When good people ask you to go away then there is a fundamental flaw in who you want to be.
I may resurface on LP under a new name. "Mister Clean" was actually my 3rd incarnation over there.
What if everyone else really is a "kook"? Everyone! :)
"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs
Not even ZioMilIndComp wants your sycophantic ass. That's almost sad.
"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs
All the more reason why he's ill suited for our little kooky playpen.
Funny. The 9-11 "truth" has peaked. It's online success has not and will not translate into mainstream success. It will never be taken seriously. It will remain a fringe movement. The people who make up the 9-11 "truth" movement are so obnoxious that, ironically, they are the ones harming the very thing they're trying to promote.
Yawn.
How horrible it must be to go through life, or history, imagining oneself perfect. That's what caused China to lose ground to Britain.
"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs
You seem not to have been looking at the polls.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
I find the whole thing rather amusing.
Do you flutter your gills when you write such tripe?
"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs
What do the polls say? But more importantly, what real world results have been produced because of those polls?
So did Stalin. Are you aquainted?
"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs
And as has been shown here in 4um in numerous posts, the illegal immagrant invasion has been promoted by the US government under the control of the Jewish interests. Yawn. Mister Clean Your blind spot? Lack of experience and exposure? Poor education? ...or a shill? Limited possibilities, one excusable as we all were there, the latter treason.
It's not tripe, it's reality. By the way, where is "Loose Change?" I thought it was getting a big theatrical release?
The 2008 election is when, fuckface?
"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs
who what when where why
Hell if I know, I was talking about you.
"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs
Does the expression "Whistling past the cemetery" apply here? The smell of fear is all over his posts.
Oooooh treason! That sounds serious!!
9/11 "truth" is not part of the 2008 election because that movement is going nowhere.
According to a poll from a year ago. You said 9/11 Truth will remain a fringe movement. That is why the polls matter. Whatever the effect of people's beliefs, if a large proportion of them believe something, it can hardly be just a fringe movement.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
The 2008 election is when, fuckface?
"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs
Curiosity question... I am on bozo for 2 here....inniebutton and some friend floral asters, betty crocker, fleecy applewhite or something like that.... the health-food prescribers.... none of my business but check and see if any have you bozoed... if not, re-evaluate and sit a spell....you might like it here after all. The hostesses are both quality and not at all like sally the sack ( Ghoul-dee) (-:
Hell if I know, I was talking about you. And I'm giving you an example showing that the 9/11 "truth" movement is going nowhere. "Loose Change," like the rest of the "truth" movement, was big online but not in the real world.
Mister Clean It is.
We were talking about polls, fuckface.
"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs
According to a poll from a year ago. You said 9/11 Truth will remain a fringe movement. That is why the polls matter. Whatever the effect of people's beliefs, if a large proportion of them believe something, it can hardly be just a fringe movement. I wouldn't consider 36% a year ago to be large. But again, what has happened as a result of that 36% holding that belief?
That possibility only looms with folks who take you seriously. And to those who feel that you're not important enough for a reservation at the Green Brier Hotel when your bosses go to the mattresses. If they think you're irritating enough and they decide to find you (and you aren't safely tucked away underground) then I'd pay big bux for the pay-per-view event where you do The Mary Surratt Swing.
Who cares about polls that ultimately mean nothing because they result in nothing.
LOL! Ladybug.
Oh, so you're a paid-for speech man. Got it.
"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs
I'd pay to see that too.
You just don't like hearing the truth that the 9/11 "truth" movement is going nowhere and producing nothing. Well, I take that back. The 9/11 "truth" movement is being used by some people to make money so it is producing some wealth!
The real world includes online media. Why are millions of TV or movie viewers more real to you than millions of Internet viewers? It sounds like you are locked into an old obsolete paradigm. Your mindset belongs in a museum.
Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.
Hell, let's keep it simpler than that. Two things cannot be refuted, even by those who swallow the official story: 1: There is no way that the hijackers could have just out of coincidence picked the one day of the year when the air defenses in most of the country were effectively turned off due to war games and other drills...unless, at the very least, people very high up in the fedgov were telling them when to pull it off and in what cities. 2: The ONLY people in the fedgov who were fired after an attack on US soil that killed 3000 men, women and children, were the ones who warned their superiors about the hijackers when they came to their attention. The American people should have demanded one bloody scalp after another (literally) until those those two issues were resolved. There should have been so many firings in the fedgov that it would have doubled the unemployment rate overnight. But they have more important things to worry about...like some billionaire slut getting out of jail this morning.
"I'd like to live just long enough to be there when they cut off your head and stick it on a pike as a warning to the next ten generations that some favors come with too high a price." Vir Cotto, Babylon 5
Fuck the 9/11 truth movement, I told you before, this is about you fuckface.
"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs
Fine. "Loose Change" was big ONLINE but has gone nowhere OFFLINE. I suspect they've gotten severely bogged down in the editing process. The question is, will they be able to edit something together that would sell?
Do you have a point?
The point is that you are an obfuscating, whining shithead. Maybe that's why no one likes you. Think about it.
"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs
Okay, I thought about it.
Loose Change 2nd Edition has sold. Selling is easy. If they are bogged down in editing Final Cut it is because they want it to be the kill shot that will spark a mass awakening and subsequent (hopefully) peaceful overthrow of our criminal Spook Empire.
Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.
Good, step two is to turn on the gas and stick your noggin in the oven. Do it! Now!
"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs
He's been gone over 20 minutes, you don't suppose....
Precisely why MC has been on the "BLOZO" filter for some time and will remain there. It is entertaining to see you tear him a new one, however, but I have more important concerns than reading the blatherings of an imbecile this close to judgement day for the USA.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition House is on...LOL
I am only vaguely aware of the "Truth Movement". My impression is that NORAD's "eyes" are focused on the northern polar horizon westward. The one thing that bothers me is the irrefutable fact that Jews were warned via an all-Jewish website and subsequent phone calls NOT to go to work in the WTC on 9-11. Even the origin of these warnings has been traced to Israel. This is the only hard evidence I know of that something is not quite pareve.
That's the one !! no inniebutton posts lately...at least not to me.
Paul Revere said the same exact thing!
Diana Are you saying Paul Revere's Ride was really about Sally in the Sack? Hunh? I gotta read that po-em again. BTW ( Peeeee-YEW....that is a disgusting and thoroughly UNPATRIOTIC THOUGHT ! )
Hmm.
I haven't seen any lately either. Hmmm.
Interesting. Large blocs of the public have serious doubts about 9/11, and you dismiss it all? OK. After all what does the public have to do with the Cheney Administration??
"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato
Very nice, and very obvious. Your tirade is nothing more than preached defeatism. What a schlimiel. The reality is that things are taking place as a result of Alex Jones, Jeff Rense, et. al., rubbing peoples noses in the grim realities of what is occurring. The very loud and visible support of the Browns is one evidence of the awakening that is happening. The resistance to the Amnesty and the road to slavery that represents is another. Judy Ghouliani being confronted by questions he wishes to avoid is yet another. No, when you say the wake-up call has gone unheeded you are lying; pure and simple. This kind of crap might sell at Brainwashed Republik but you are not going to have a lot of takers here. Real Patriots will continue to resist the evil that your masters represent. "To the degree that the government can take from you the produce of your labor without your consent you are that much a slave." - Me
The British are "cumming"?
"To the degree that the government can take from you the produce of your labor without your consent you are that much a slave." - Me
"You cannot conquer a free man. The most you can do is kill him." - Robert Anson Heinlein ..unless, if you're a slave master, he kills you first. Take heed PoliticoWhores.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition Do you see my post froma few weeks ago? Virginia Tech Shootings - Alex Jones has Jumped the Shark If you go to Alex Jone's http://infowars.com website you will see the article entitled 'Was Virginia School Shooting Another Government Black-Op?' You will notice the question mark on the article - I guess they did not want to jump into conclusions so early in the shootings. But on his talk show Alex Jones does not even bother with the question mark. Right now he is still asserting that the Virginia Tech shooting was a Black-Ops. What's the proof? Proof? Who needs proof? To accept that the above was a black-op is to accept that the govt. can produce suicidal mass killers who kill on command and were brain washed like in the movies. Or another theory Alex Jones hints at is that the govt. used professional shooters - he slyly hints at this because right as I am typing this up he is doubting how a lone shooter can shoot so many so quickly. Say what? It's very easy! These handguns are made to rapid fire - ease of trigger action is a selling point! Maybe you all already know Alex jumped the shark a long time ago. He is a conspiracy monger after all. He makes his money on pushing conspiracies and the more conspiracies you push the more product you can push. So it makes sense that he would push what happened in Virginia as a conspiracy and assert the killer was a victim of CIA mind control. Whatever sells his DVDs to the rubes.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
Posts of mine under the names of "Spar" and "Pericles" (I kept getting banned at FR): F.B.I. Agent Says Superior Altered Report, Foiling Inquiry (Chechnya Link Was Ignored) The French report revealed that Mr. Moussaoui had a close friend who had fought and died with Islamic separatist fighters battling the Russians in Chechnya (news - web sites), but F.B.I. headquarters believed that connection was too indirect to link Mr. Moussaoui to terrorism. Officials at the Central Intelligence Agency (news - web sites) have also played down the significance of the French information, saying that it did not provide conclusive proof of Mr. Moussaoui's terrorist ties. Milosevic Expected to Call Western Leaders at Trial (Plans to link Clinton and Blair to Bin Laden) - Slobo was killed. Why Didn't the FBI Fully Investigate Moussaoui? Agents joked that HQ infiltrated by agents of Osama They had begged FBI Headquarters to give them permission to seek a search warrant of Moussaoui's computer. They were denied. In their frustration, they joked that headquarters back in Washington must be infiltrated by agents of Osama Bin Laden. Why else would their work have been thwarted? --------------------------- Those articles I posted above and their implications scare the hell out of me than any crap posted by Truthers about supposed thermite charges pre-planted in the WTC.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
What the slavemasters don't get, or are too arrogant to comprehend, is that there are a lot people who will die willingly to take them out if they try to force their slave state on us. I don't want to die, but there are some things important enough to die for. If they think Palestinian suiciders are a problem they ain't seen nuthin' yet. Wait till they meet a few Americans who know what they are doing and are willing to die in "getting the job done".
"To the degree that the government can take from you the produce of your labor without your consent you are that much a slave." - Me
If it is big online then it is also big in the real world too. Unless you still think the online world isn't big yet. LOL! Hint: Official Jewdom news and society is not the real world.
God is always good! I got a smilie for that!
Lead me not into temptation. (I have no trouble finding it on my own.) "To the degree that the government can take from you the produce of your labor without your consent you are that much a slave." - Me
Damn!
Hee, hee. Bad girl. Baaaaaaaaad girl. I like that in a woman. "To the degree that the government can take from you the produce of your labor without your consent you are that much a slave." - Me
No it was not a CT black op...it was negligence on the part of the new leftist administration who glorify that low-life Nikki. The remedy after the previous shootinbg was simple... more...busy
This isn't quite true. Where once I could tolerate
Republican flacks like yourself, I've now come to hate them and consider them
a domestic enemy.
I doubt very much that "it" is a republican flack.
Indie, Who is Alex Jones? and should I care?
Really? You seemed well informed.
Ron Paul. President. Spread the Word.
What is IT Cyni. A simple troll?
After the shooting spree in the Fall, all Va Tech Admin had to do was institute an operations plan to wit: 1. Shooter on campus ! 2. All buildings locked down electronically no entrance from the outside , exit OK. 3. All campus police immediately go to pre-arranged building, entry by security card and post inside doors. 4. Use phones to call receptionist secretaries of all buildings/departments RAs and give the alert 5. Call Sheriff, Blacksburg p[olice ( right there!!) and State Police ( always on 81 !!) Shooter on campus....and block the very few ramps leading to Va Tech....this is an isolated campus, not and inner city maze The ten-minute result would be 1. incoming student traffic stopped. 2. An armed security guard/guards inside each building thus preventing wholesale unopposed slaughter 3. Few students outside...poor targets anyway due to lack of confinement... Arriving police then scour the outside campus and add forces to each building ... This would take ten minutes....and some brains and some executive administration thought...all lacking in that leftist careeming university. This would have made the wholesale slaughter impossible... I know that campus and access like the back of my hand. Incompetence ruled and the "investigation" was mere a back-slapping self-congratulatory predictable " It weren't OUR FAULT. It was somebody ELSE's FAULT." the predictable leftist wail.
about nukes yes.... about a talker or CT mouthpiece??? No.
Excellent plan, JC. I also think the many years of anti-gun propaganda has make our kids paranoid of the sight/mention of a gun. They need to know that the time to bum rush a shooter is when he drops one clip out and reloads.
Thanks JT.
Heavens no. It may be hewing the republican line at the moment, however, I suspect its paymaster goes higher than partisan politics.
Ah....the boyz from Tel Aviv.......
It does not display an overabundance of smarts so it may NOT know who really is the paymaster.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)
Frankly, your opinion on such matters is as meaningless as mine is. Independent experts who know about demolition and other such engineering things looked at the same things and did not see what you say you saw. So therefore I consider any speculation in this direction a waste. In fact the guilty parties more than likely welcome such speculation because it distracts from any new look into what really happened.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)
It may be hewing the republican line at the moment, however, I suspect its paymaster goes higher than partisan politics. Each time he denies or spins truth or fact, reasoned conclusions, he sides with darkness. As long as we mire ourselves in an illusion of political party righteousness, the truth remains undiscussed, hidden, or supressed by intimidation. Also, the obvious battle for our souls is another area darkness prefers to hide. Time to choose, God's law or the NWO. Where in the NWO, do we find anything other than death, destruction, greed, control, or service to humanity? Once you know there is a choice, you can't decide to sit on a fence. A person has to choose. You can't 'unring a bell'. I subscribe to the belief that ones soul depends on it. You are with God's law, or you are with the NWO. "In the end it will not matter to us whether we fought with flails or reeds. It will matter to us greatly on what side we fought." -- Gilbert Keith Chesterton (1874-1936) British essayist, critic, poet, and novelist http://quotes.liberty- tree.ca/quote_blog/Gilbert.Keith.Chesterton.Quote.FAF3
"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60
Robertson thinks Rudy heaven-sent : Televangelist praises 'outstanding' Giuliani at lecture.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
For many, yes. The whole idea of "waking up" is fear motivated. Operant extinction is discombobulating. For a while.
Sustaining member, A.A.C.S.C.B.R.T.A.
Many good people discount the NWO as a figment of imagination. Perhaps if they would consider that just possibly the NWO designs transcend generations, the picture would appear clear. NWO is NOT something that was thought of yesterday, nor today and it will not go away tomorrow.
Just do the math on the Silverstein insurance award and anyone w/an active brain cell should stir just a tad.
On the contrary, fear has survival value, and leaders are necessarily different. Nothing at all wrong with fear, as long as it is balanced with courage, faith, and determination.
Sustaining member, A.A.C.S.C.B.R.T.A.
I agree with your statement. we are being given a choice. and we each as individuals must choose. and just because you go to church or adhere to this or that set of 'religious' rules does not in itself mean that you have chosen one side or the other. Judgement is coming.
Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
I read this the other day, seems to fit here. "Invisible strings called beliefs rise up to hidden hands holding global-wealth and power. As long as the illusion can be maintained, the audience can be held spellbound. For them, the show is their reality. Until, one day - they [the audience] see the strings. "
"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60
Absoulety correct. Which is why, some desperately battle to keep eyes focused on the puppet SHOW. It serves the puppet masters, and masters, master.
"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60
Stop any ten people you meet on the street, ask them if they ever heard or read of Albert Pike.
Agreed. Once you understand this is not a religious battle, but one between everlasting life or permanent death. Judgement is coming. Yes. Something I read the other day mentioned that not all people were ever going to 'wake up' at the same time. I can accept that. But, once you know, you CAN'T pretend you don't. That's where tap dancing on judgement day isn't going to help.
"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60
Good point. The 'hidden hand' has worked tirelessly to keep sheep lost.
"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60
Friend of mine is a scientist, also basic atheist, yet he goes to church. He say it does him no harm and "just in case"....
He say it does him no harm and "just in case".... He thinks he's hedging his bet eh? Uh-oh.
"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60
Ninety nine per cent of his highly educated brain is poo poohing the idea of a Supreme Being. The other one per cent is saying, "are you POSITIVE".
Maybe, but I don't think so. I know of no such conclusions nor backpedals, etc. Sorry. Saying this does not discount in my mind a nefarious role in the events of 9/11 by the 'shadow' govt of the USA. The key is the Project for a New American Century report on the neocon awaited ''catalyzing event — like a new Pearl Harbor''. Pearl Harbor was a case of the USA leaving itself open for a first strike - not helping the Japanese carry out the attack but dropping your defenses for a body blow. Many confuse that with 'Operation Northwoods' which was a plan to attack ourselves to create a pretext for invading Cuba. I think 9/11 (if it involved our govt as collaborators) was not a case of a Northwoods but a case of a Pearl Harbor. Policy was laid down to make an attack on America by outside forces (who probably did not know or care they were doing what America wanted them to do) possible - thwarting red flags to law enforcement - squashing intel warnings, and so on. That to me is more plausible than the notions sapper units dressed like janitors prepping 3 buildings in New York for a coordinated demolition charge with an incoming airplane crash (as well as the laughable conclusion that NY landlord Silverstien is directing said sappers and would admit it on a PBS interview - the 'pull it' statement - that's retarded).
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
I know of only ONE college educated person that said they heard of Pike in college.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)
Yes to all your questions. The collapsed towers were a crime scene and should have been circled with yellow tape.
IMO, the FBI's Radical Fundamentalist Unit was contrary to conventional wisdom, running interference for the jihadis. I forget the names, Frasca was one I think, but they got rid of John O'Neill (however much a showboat he was) - I still keep thinking that in the chaos of the Towers collapse, O'Neill was murdered. Just too pat an end. Be that as it may, the spiking of the investigation of the binLadin (what a difference a vowel makes) family by Cheney and Bush in Jan or Feb2000, literally the first thing they did. Then there's PTECH and the spoofing of the Air exercises on that day. Bush's brother running security at WTC and reports of weird activity and no bomb sniffing checks the weekend before. If anyone really cared, there's tons to investigate.
I do agree with you that the Truther movement is hung up on on it's own obsessions. You are also right that it's impact is questionable in the wider public world. This is not a big topic among most Americans at all. We simply just don't care. That's frustrating to the Truthers and also to others who would like to understand but there's been enough stuff out there to make decent extrapolations and hypothesis based on facts that the Bush administration has wanted to hide and keep covered up. Hate to say it, but coverups work and this one has. Cheney, Abu and Bandar got away with it. 3000 dead in NYC and Arlington is simply the price of doing business with the Saudis. The Dubya Family Fortune transcends a few thousand dead here and there.
I remember in high school there was a 'history' type book we had that had 1 page devoted to Albert Pike. They had a big picture of him and they glorified him. and they said that he founded the Ku Klux Klan. and they never said anything else about his significance. and I couldn't figure out why they glorified him and gave him so much space. and after I read about his other significance in history - then I understood why.
Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Shhhhhh. don´t tell anyone, but I could have cared less (not possible! to care less, that is) if you read the post........... the info was for everyone else that maybe going through the thread....... And it well served it's purpose for that.
Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until you hear them speak.
Whatever sells his DVDs to the rubes. I could not agree more.
I've come to the conclusion that it had a lot more to do with years of violent meddling in the Middle East.
There is no courage, faith and determination in American politics when it comes to the use of fear.
You have absolutely no basis for labeling me a "Republican flack."
You make me laugh.
Interesting. Large blocs of the public have serious doubts about 9/11, and you dismiss it all? OK. What does the 9/11 "truth" movement have to show for all their efforts? I'd say not very damn much.
THE 9/11 TRUTHS ZIONIST ISRAELAND Alex Jones DOES NOT WANT AMERICA ESPECIALLY WHITE AMERICA TO KNOW: THE ISRAELI/US CONNECTION TO 9/11 Mossad - The Israeli Connection To 911 "You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."
No surprise there, MC.
"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato
That's kinda Ron Paulish of you. Meddling, perhaps, but ensuring that the supply of a vital natural resource isn't meddling. It's strategically driven foreign policy. I disagree with you because Bush makes his money from Saudis and after 119, like the faithful whore he is, has done everything in his power to protect them. That's why his war on a tictac is a farce and a sham. Unfortunately, US soldiers keep dying in endless operations against small fry. That is Bush's true crime, for making US soldiers die for essentially nothing, except the preservation of his family's fortunes.
When I say meddling I mean military meddling. I used to think we needed to be militarily involved in the Middle East but not anymore.
Magna est veritas et prævalebit.
#2. To: aristeides (#1)
Some of us think the truth is worth knowing for its own sake.
#3. To: Mister Clean (#2)
#4. To: aristeides (#3)
You seem to have written that it doesn't matter what Alex Jones may or may not have discovered, because he has had no effect on the real world.
#5. To: aristeides (#1)
#6. To: swarthyguy (#5)
Dominant Consensual Reality
#7. To: Mister Clean (#4)
#8. To: aristeides (#7)
So, you admit that, if what Alex Jones has discovered is true, then it's not a waste of time?
#9. To: Mister Clean (#8)
conspiracy theories always remain theories
#10. To: Mister Clean (#8)
#11. To: aristeides (#10)
So, you admit that what matters is, whether or not what he is saying is true, rather than whether or not he has had any effect?
#12. To: swarthyguy (#9)
Good to see you back here posting. Hope things are well with you.
#13. To: swarthyguy (#5)
Dominant Consensual Reality
#14. To: Kamala (#12)
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#15. To: Mister Clean (#2)
I suppose it depends on what "truth" you're talking about.
NUKE DARFUR! (They SAY we must DO SOMETHING, this is something)
#16. To: PnbC (#15)
#17. To: PnbC (#15)
#18. To: ghostdogtxn (#17)
#19. To: aristeides (#18)
Ron Paul for President
#20. To: aristeides (#18)
Carl Cameron's source for his series on the Israeli art students was none other than Dick Cheney.
#21. To: swarthyguy (#20)
Ron Paul for President
#22. To: Mister Clean, aristeides, Pnbc (#0)
#23. To: All (#0)
#24. To: swarthyguy, aristeides (#20)
(Edited)
Carl Cameron's source for his series on the Israeli art students was none other than Dick Cheney.
#25. To: Destro (#24)
#26. To: ghostdogtxn (#22)
What Alex Jones does is confront the world as he sees it, knowing that our "leaders" lie constantly, seeking the truth. Does he make mistakes? I'm sure that he does. But probably fewer than the government approved media that fills our airways with empty, meaningless, glass half-full spew each night.
#27. To: PnbC (#15)
Or the truths not being talked about, such as allegations that there was ample intelligence prior to 9/11 to have prevented the attacks and possibly arresting the hijackers beforehand, but not acted on by the WH.
#28. To: Mister Clean (#26)
I'm simply pointing out that Rush Limbaugh is just a loudmouth who profits through selling fear disguised as the "truth" to people desperate to understand our complex world.
#29. To: swarthyguy (#28)
I'm simply pointing out that Rush Limbaugh is just a loudmouth who profits through selling fear disguised as the "truth" to people desperate to understand our complex world.
#30. To: Mister Clean (#29)
For Bush, al-Qaeda is the biggest threat
#31. To: swarthyguy (#30)
This Saudi lickspittle, blustered about Osama dead or alive, Osama is free and alive, and the Bush family makes billions from their business deals with the Saudis.
#32. To: Mister Clean, Original_Intent, swarthyguy, IndieTx, Red Jones, HOUNDAWG, robin, Zipporah, richard9151, Jethro Tull (#29)
Limbaugh, Jones, Bush, Clinton... all they do is preach fear and unfortunately, there are too many Americans who buy into it.
#33. To: swarthyguy (#30)
You're right about the fear; another area where Bush has shown himself incompetent and stupid; however, from the point of view of enhancing the Bush connections with the Saudi moneybags, it's been brilliant. Instead of calming and leading the country with clarity, he's preyed on people's fears, magnifying them and playing them like his fucking guitar during Katrina to put out his version of a totally ineffective fucking war against Islamists.
#34. To: JCHarris (#32)
I have seen some shills and flying monkey squads...but you are the most insidious and outrageous.
#35. To: Mister Clean (#34)
Do I get some kind of award for that?
#36. To: JCHarris (#35)
#37. To: JCHarris (#35)
Sure.... the "I Bent Over For Trotsky's Tryst".
#38. To: Mister Clean (#37)
Sure.... the "I Bent Over For Trotsky's Tryst".
#39. To: Meester Kleen (#38)
Gouldi
#40. To: Mister Clean (#34)
Do I get some kind of award for that?
#41. To: Mister Clean, Mister Clean, Original_Intent, swarthyguy, IndieTx, Red Jones, HOUNDAWG, robin, Zipporah, swarthyguy, Jethro Tull (#33)
The threat of terrorism is small just as virtually every threat promoted in America is small. The only threat that lives up to the hype is the multi faceted threat from the invasion of illegal aliens.
#42. To: Mister Clean (#0)
Seems to me, "waking people up" isn't doing jack shit.
#43. To: Mister Clean (#34)
#44. To: JCHarris (#38)
Go check with Gouldi too. I hear on El Pee she and aaron and bulen sabriel have some more for you.
#45. To: HOUNDDAWG (#43)
When good people ask you to go away then there is a fundamental flaw in who you want to be.
#46. To: Mister Clean (#44)
"Mister Clean" was actually my 3rd incarnation over there.
#47. To: Dakmar (#45)
What if everyone else really is a "kook"? Everyone! :)
#48. To: Arator (#42)
9-11 truth is approaching critical mass.
#49. To: richard9151 (#41)
And as has been shown here in 4um in numerous posts, the illegal immagrant invasion has been promoted by the US government under the control of the Jewish interests.
#50. To: HOUNDDAWG (#47)
#51. To: Mister Clean (#48)
It will remain a fringe movement.
#52. To: Dakmar (#46)
Not even ZioMilIndComp wants your sycophantic ass. That's almost sad.
#53. To: Mister Clean (#48)
The 9-11 "truth" has peaked. It's online success has not and will not translate into mainstream success.
#54. To: aristeides (#51)
You seem not to have been looking at the polls.
#55. To: Mister Clean (#52)
I find the whole thing rather amusing.
#56. To: Mister Clean (#49)
#49. To: richard9151 (#41)
#57. To: Dakmar (#53)
Do you flutter your gills when you write such tripe?
#58. To: Mister Clean (#54)
what real world results have been produced because of those polls?
#59. To: Mister Clean (#54)
"Mister Clean" was actually my 3rd incarnation over there.
#60. To: Mister Clean (#57)
By the way, where is "Loose Change?"
#61. To: Dakmar (#53)
Do you flutter your gills when you write such tripe?
#62. To: JCHarris (#56)
Limited possibilities, one excusable as we all were there, the latter treason.
#63. To: Dakmar (#58)
The 2008 election is when, fuckface?
#64. To: Mister Clean (#54)
Thirty-six percent of respondents overall said it is "very likely" or "somewhat likely" that federal officials either participated in the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon or took no action to stop them "because they wanted the United States to go to war in the Middle East."
#65. To: Mister Clean (#63)
#66. To: Mister Clean (#57)
#67. To: Dakmar (#60)
By the way, where is "Loose Change?"
#68. To: Mister Clean (#62)
Oooooh treason! That sounds serious!!
#69. To: Mister Clean (#67)
#70. To: aristeides (#64)
Thirty-six percent of respondents overall said it is "very likely" or "somewhat likely" that federal officials either participated in the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon or took no action to stop them "because they wanted the United States to go to war in the Middle East."
#71. To: Mister Clean (#62)
Oooooh treason! That sounds serious!!
#72. To: Dakmar (#69)
We were talking about polls, fuckface.
#73. To: JCHarris (#66)
some friend floral asters, betty crocker, fleecy applewhite or something like that....
#74. To: Mister Clean (#72)
Who cares about polls that ultimately mean nothing because they result in nothing.
#75. To: HOUNDDAWG (#71)
If they think you're irritating enough and they decide to find you (and you aren't safely tucked away underground) then I'd pay big bux for the pay-per-view event where you do The Mary Surratt Swing.
#76. To: Dakmar (#74)
Oh, so you're a paid-for speech man. Got it.
#77. To: Mister Clean (#67)
"Loose Change," like the rest of the "truth" movement, was big online but not in the real world.
#78. To: Destro (#24)
2) A segment of our intel community wanted them to attack us - so called Pearl Harbor scenario - leave yourself open to an attack.
#79. To: Mister Clean (#76)
#80. To: Arator (#77)
The real world includes online media. Why are millions of TV or movie viewers more real to you than millions of Internet viewers? It sounds like you are locked into an old obsolete paradigm. Your mindset belongs in a museum.
#81. To: Dakmar (#79)
Fuck the 9/11 truth movement, I told you before, this is about you fuckface.
#82. To: Mister Clean (#81)
#83. To: Dakmar (#82)
The point is that you are an obfuscating, whining shithead. Maybe that's why no one likes you. Think about it.
#84. To: Mister Clean (#80)
(Edited)
I suspect they've gotten severely bogged down in the editing process. The question is, will they be able to edit something together that would sell?
#85. To: Mister Clean (#83)
(Edited)
#86. To: Dakmar (#85)
Ron Paul for President
#87. To: JCHarris, ALL (#32)
#88. To: robin (#86)
He's been gone over 20 minutes, you don't suppose....
#89. To: Mister Clean (#81)
#90. To: farmfriend (#73)
#91. To: JCHarris, christine, Zipporah, All (#66)
The hostesses are both quality and not at all like sally the sack
#92. To: Diana (#91)
Paul Revere said the same exact thing!
#93. To: Diana (#91)
Paul Revere said the same exact thing!
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#94. To: JCHarris (#90)
That's the one !! no inniebutton posts lately...at least not to me.
#95. To: Mister Clean (#63)
9/11 "truth" is not part of the 2008 election because that movement is going nowhere.
#96. To: Mister Clean (#0)
Give up! All is lost! Der ist nuthink you can do.
Ve har der master race und you vill all become slaves.
Now chut hup und stop paying attention to events und vhat chore betters are doink.
"You cannot conquer a free man. The most you can do is kill him." - Robert Anson Heinlein
#97. To: JCHarris, Diana, farmfriend (#92)
#98. To: Original_Intent (#96)
"You cannot conquer a free man. The most you can do is kill him." - Robert Anson Heinlein
#99. To: Mister Clean, aristeides, swarthyguy, Kamala, PnbC, ghostdogtxn, robin, TheSilverFox, JCHarris, richard9151, Arator, HOUNDDAWG, orangedog, IndieTX, Diana, who knows what evil, tom007, Original_Intent (#0)
#100. To: orangedog, swarthyguy (#78)
(Edited)
1: There is no way that the hijackers could have just out of coincidence picked the one day of the year when the air defenses in most of the country were effectively turned off due to war games and other drills...unless, at the very least, people very high up in the fedgov were telling them when to pull it off and in what cities.
#101. To: IndieTX (#98)
"You cannot conquer a free man. The most you can do is kill him." - Robert Anson Heinlein ..unless, if you're a slave master, he kills you first. Take heed PoliticoWhores.
#102. To: Mister Clean aka BAC (#0)
(Edited)
The 9/11 "truth" movement is big online but in the real world it's going nowhere.
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]
#103. To: Original_Intent, JCHarris, Diana (#97)
The British are "cumming"?
#104. To: farmfriend (#103)
#105. To: Original_Intent (#104)
Lead me not into temptation.
#106. To: farmfriend (#105)
#107. To: Destro (#99)
#108. To: Mister Clean (#0)
Seems to me, "waking people up" isn't doing jack s**t.
#109. To: Jethro Tull (#108)
Republican flacks like yourself
#110. To: IndieTX (#98)
#111. To: JCHarris (#110)
Who is Alex Jones? and should I care?
#112. To: Cynicom (#109)
#113. To: All, Destro, wudidiz, wbales, Zipporah (#107)
#114. To: wbales (#111)
#115. To: JCHarris (#113)
#116. To: Jethro Tull (#115)
#117. To: Jethro Tull (#112)
A simple troll?
#118. To: Cynicom (#117)
It may be hewing the republican line at the moment, however, I suspect its paymaster goes higher than partisan politics.
#119. To: Jethro Tull (#118)
Ah....the boyz from Tel Aviv.......
#120. To: Destro (#100)
#121. To: ghostdogtxn (#120)
But I've seen pictures of the cut columns and I've seen video of the collapse of WTC 7.
#122. To: Destro (#121)
#123. To: Cynicom (#117)
Heavens no.
#124. To: Calamity (#123)
You are with God's law, or you are with the NWO.
#125. To: TheSilverFox (#23)
Simply put: Alex Jones is the surrender leaflet of choice.
#126. To: Calamity (#123)
Where in the NWO, do we find anything other than death, destruction, greed, control,
#127. To: ghostdogtxn, All (#120)
But I've seen pictures of the cut columns and I've seen video of the collapse of WTC 7. If you can look at that stuff and honestly not see a rat, I don't know how
#128. To: Mister Clean (#33)
Fear is just a marketing tool used by government, businesses, groups and individuals to sell something.
#129. To: Calamity (#123)
#130. To: aristeides (#124)
Robertson thinks Rudy heaven-sent : Televangelist praises 'outstanding' Giuliani at lecture.
#131. To: Cynicom (#126)
NWO is NOT something that was thought of yesterday, nor today and it will not go away tomorrow.
#132. To: Calamity (#131)
Which is why, some desperately battle to keep eyes focused on the puppet SHOW.
#133. To: Red Jones (#129)
(Edited)
and just because you go to church or adhere to this or that set of 'religious' rules does not in itself mean that you have chosen one side or the other.
#134. To: Cynicom (#132)
Stop any ten people you meet on the street, ask them if they ever heard or read of Albert Pike.
#135. To: Calamity (#133)
That's where tap dancing on judgement day isn't going to help.
#136. To: Cynicom (#135)
Friend of mine is a scientist, also basic atheist, yet he goes to church.
#137. To: Calamity (#136)
Uh-oh.
#138. To: ghostdogtxn, swarthyguy (#122)
That's the thing, D. Independent experts have looked at WTC7 and (before they knew it was WTC7) said it was a controlled demolition. Once they found out the controlled demolition they saw was WTC7 they very quickly backpedalled on their conclusions.
#139. To: Cynicom (#132)
ask them if they ever heard or read of Albert Pike
#140. To: christine (#139)
no,
#141. To: Jethro Tull (#127)
#142. To: ghostdogtxn (#141)
#143. To: Destro (#100)
#144. To: Mister Clean (#80)
#145. To: Cynicom (#140)
#146. To: Mister Clean (#49)
Yawn.
#147. To: Destro (#99)
Maybe you all already know Alex jumped the shark a long time ago. He is a conspiracy monger after all. He makes his money on pushing conspiracies and the more conspiracies you push the more product you can push. So it makes sense that he would push what happened in Virginia as a conspiracy and assert the killer was a victim of CIA mind control.
#148. To: swarthyguy (#144)
3000 dead in NYC and Arlington is simply the price of doing business with the Saudis.
#149. To: Tauzero (#128)
Nothing at all wrong with fear, as long as it is balanced with courage, faith, and determination.
#150. To: Jethro Tull (#108)
Where once I could tolerate Republican flacks like yourself, I've now come to hate them and consider them a domestic enemy.
#151. To: Original_Intent (#96)
The very loud and visible support of the Browns is one evidence of the awakening that is happening.
#152. To: tom007 (#95)
9/11 "truth" is not part of the 2008 election because that movement is going nowhere.
#153. To: Mister Clean (#0)
(Edited)
What is Alex Jones Doing?
Dan C. Lewin
Zionist Commando Daniel Lewin Orchestrated The 9-11 Terrorist Attacks
http://www.ilaam.net/Sept11/ZionistDid911.html 
Rabbi Dov Zakheim
The Mastermind Behind 911?
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=1927 
BUSH AUTHORIZED THE 9/11 ATTACKS
http://www.nogw.com/download/2006_insider_911.pdf
http://www.nogw.com/9_11.html
http://www.rense.com/general64/moss.htm
#154. To: Mister Clean (#152)
I'd say not very damn much.
#155. To: Mister Clean (#148)
years of violent meddling in the Middle East.
#156. To: swarthyguy (#155)
Meddling, perhaps, but ensuring that the supply of a vital natural resource isn't meddling.
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