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Title: What is Alex Jones Doing?
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Mister Clean
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Published: Jun 25, 2007
Author: Mister Clean
Post Date: 2007-06-25 16:05:25 by Mister Clean
Keywords: Alex Jones, 9/11, conspiracy
Views: 2044
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What is Alex Jones doing? When I ask his supporters that question they typically answer with something along the lines of, "He's waking people up. He's spreading information." Okay, suppose that's true. People are "waking up" to the horrors of the New World Order as well as 9/11 being an inside job. So what? Nothing is changing as a result of all this "waking up." Every day Alex Jones is ranting about the latest NWO atrocity. Every day he freaks out over the march of the NWO and the planned destruction of America. The 9/11 "truth" movement is big online but in the real world it's going nowhere. In the world of Alex Jones, each day brings some new outrage. Each day the sky gets darker. Each day America is destroyed a little bit more. For all this "waking people up" crap, things aren't getting any better. Just look at Jones' various websites; it's all doom & gloom, all the time. Seems to me, "waking people up" isn't doing jack shit. Except putting money in Alex Jones' bank account.
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#1. To: Mister Clean (#0)
Some of us think the truth is worth knowing for its own sake. And some of us, quite clearly, do not.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
And some of us, quite clearly, do not. I suppose it depends on what "truth" you're talking about.
No, I don't think so. You seem to have written that it doesn't matter what Alex Jones may or may not have discovered, because he has had no effect on the real world.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
For example, I don't consider "9/11 was an inside job" to be a discovery. It's a theory.
Nah, on hindsight it's far better being ignorant. It feels so snug, smug, warm, fuzzylike being cocooned in the Dominant Consensual Reality. Why risk being uneasy.
Funny stuff.
So, you admit that, if what Alex Jones has discovered is true, then it's not a waste of time? I think that makes your original posting pointless.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
I'm saying that he hasn't discovered anything that's true. He is promoting conspiracy theories for a living. And conspiracy theories always remain theories. For all his hot air about fighting the NWO and trying to "wake people up" he doesn't have anything to show for it. He can't point to a single victory against the NWO.
Except the ones that are succesful. That's the DCR, otherwise known as History.
So, you admit that what matters is, whether or not what he is saying is true, rather than whether or not he has had any effect?
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
I'm saying that what he says isn't true and it has no effect other than putting money in his pocket.
Conspiracy may refer to An act of working in secret to obtain some goal, usually understood with negative connotations. History and Law Conspiracy (civil), agreement between two or more natural persons to break the law at some time in the future Conspiracy (crime), agreement between two or more natural persons to break the law at some time in the future Conspiracy (political), a plot to overthrow a government or other powers
Mark "I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. [..] and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... — Former NYC Police Officer and 9/11 Rescue Worker Craig Bartmer
very excellent observation Swarthyguy.
Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
Sometimes referred to as lunch. I picture a light but flavorful Dover Sole, a fine Chardonnay, sauteed green beans and asparagus, preceded by a Belgian Endive and vine tomato salad with fine silverware and a white tablecloth. "This sole is wonderful, by the way, are we all set in Dallas?"
Or the truths not being talked about, such as allegations that there was ample intelligence prior to 9/11 to have prevented the attacks and possibly arresting the hijackers beforehand, but not acted on by the WH. The case of the Israeli art students seen celebrating the disaster also warrants further investigation.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)
Michael Ruppert claims in Crossing the Rubicon that Brit Hume has stated that Carl Cameron's source for his series on the Israeli art students was none other than Dick Cheney.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
If true, it sounds like more intrigue, for then the show never aired (except in bootlegged internet copies). Was Cheney holding it against Israel for some purpose? Bizarre, considering who worked and still works out of his office and the hawkish pro-Zionist policies being set.
A way to tell the Israelis, fall into line with us, or we will burn you. I know, I know, we're supposed to be their bitch.
It does make me question which way the horse and cart are arranged.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)
Simply put: Alex Jones is the surrender leaflet of choice. The whole idea of "waking up" is fear motivated. Think.
I am not on any Member Subscription, there are too many to keep up with. However, if you wish for my opinion on something, ping me.
My thesis is that many intel agencies were warning and some like the Israelis new of the impending 9/11 (and chose not to warn us) attacks but were rebuffed. 2 reasons why the warnings were rebuffed: 1) The al-Qaeda cell was composed of American intel assets most recently used in Bosnia and the Balkans as well as in Chechnya - the nations warning us were the nations that had suffered at the hands of these CIA cells (Russia, Serbia, India) and thus our agencies distrusted their intel. 2) A segment of our intel community wanted them to attack us - so called Pearl Harbor scenario - leave yourself open to an attack.
"The desire to rule is the mother of heresies." -- St. John Chrysostom
Well, yes, from Arab allies like Jordan to the French and the Russians and the Indians. Conspicously missing are warnings from Pakistan, SaudiArabia and the UK. HA! Imagine if the CHIEF of any other country's Spy Service had been caught wiring 100K to ATTA via OMAR of DannyPearl infamy. If it had been an Iraqi, we'd know his damn DNA code by now. But since it was a Pakistani, ooops, sssshhhh.
You say that "waking up" people isn't doing jack shit. Your call to complacency and despair does even less. I've made no "call to complacency," whatever that means. I'm simply pointing out that Alex Jones is just a loudmouth who profits through selling fear disguised as the "truth" to people desperate to understand our complex world. He's a snake oil salesman, not an activist. His daily 3 hour radio rant, his "documentaries" and his websites aren't doing a damn thing except putting money in his pocket. Nothing that Alex Jones, or any other conspiracy theorist, does is improving anything in America.
Maybe those allegations are just that. Allegations.
He's a snake oil salesman, not an activist. His daily 3 hour radio rant, his "soliloquies" and his websites aren't doing a damn thing except putting money in his pocket. Nothing that Rush Limbaugh, or any other radio talk showhost , does is improving anything in America Mighty pure standard you got there.
He's a snake oil salesman, not an activist. His daily 3 hour radio rant, his "soliloquies" and his websites aren't doing a damn thing except putting money in his pocket. Nothing that Rush Limbaugh, or any other radio talk showhost , does is improving anything in America I agree with all of that. Limbaugh, Jones, Bush, Clinton... all they do is preach fear and unfortunately, there are too many Americans who buy into it. For Limbaugh, the liberals are the biggest threat. True patriots oppose liberals. For Jones, the NWO/globalists are the biggest threat. True patriots oppose the NWO/globalists. For Bush, al-Qaeda is the biggest threat. True patriots oppose al-Qaeda. For Clinton and other liberals, right wingers & corporations are the biggest threat. True patriots oppose right wingers and corporations. There is a HUGE market in America for fear.
You have to be fucking kidding. This Saudi lickspittle, blustered about Osama dead or alive, Osama is free and alive, and the Bush family makes billions from their business deals with the Saudis. James Baker defends the Saudis against the 911 families. Bush said he doesn't care where Osama is, doesn't think much about him. 2000+ days later, the Shaikh is free, his stature unmatched in the Muslim world while Abu Dubya just shrugs. What Bush has done is simply TREASON. He's lucky to have such a bunch of lily livered jello spineless stupid pukes like the Dems against him. It's not all that shocking when you consider the biggest supporter of militant Salafi AQ type extremism has been the US. Bush used fear to obfuscate and confuse the issues; instead of clarifying, he muddied the waters. You're right about the fear; another area where Bush has shown himself incompetent and stupid; however, from the point of view of enhancing the Bush connections with the Saudi moneybags, it's been brilliant. Instead of calming and leading the country with clarity, he's preyed on people's fears, magnifying them and playing them like his fucking guitar during Katrina to put out his version of a totally ineffective fucking war against Islamists. The reason the antiIslamist cause is so discredited is because of that fucker. The threat is there; but looking on this website you will find a lot of skepticism about how dangerous the threat is. That is because the 3rdBase Abu is the one who's so discredited it and fucked it up that no one with a mind can buy it. And don't get me started on a war on a fucking tactic. Imagine Roosevelt saying we have a war against sneak attacks. Absurd Lies. Bush's Legacy. Fuck him.
Absurd Lies. Bush's Legacy. Fuck him. Be careful.... that sounds like me the shilling schmuck will call you a jooater ! " WAIL " The Sky is Falling if such were ever to occur ! LMAO Thanks, JC
For Limbaugh, the liberals are the biggest threat. True patriots oppose liberals. For Jones, the NWO/globalists are the biggest threat. True patriots oppose the NWO/globalists. For Bush, al-Qaeda is the biggest threat. True patriots oppose al-Qaeda. For Clinton and other liberals, right wingers & corporations are the biggest threat. True patriots oppose right wingers and corporations. - mister kleen ROTFLMAO....you mesmerising shill! Read your words. This is NOT El Pee !! The people here are smarter than that! YOUR words say, " Now go to sleep babies, drink the Kool-Aid... this won't hurt much. Don't resist! Don't think. Repeat after me and just drink the Kool-Aid. Just drink the KOOL-AID and DADDY will EASE YOU INTO SLEEP......." I have seen some shills and flying monkey squads...but you are the most insidious and outrageous. Go back to El PEE where you can intimidate STUPID people and hobnob with your Goon Squads and Inane Cheerleaders. JC
The reason the antiIslamist cause is so discredited is because of that fucker. The threat is there; but looking on this website you will find a lot of skepticism about how dangerous the threat is. The threat of terrorism is small just as virtually every threat promoted in America is small. The only threat that lives up to the hype is the multi faceted threat from the invasion of illegal aliens. Muslim savages can't even hold ground in a shithole like Somalia so the idea that they pose a threat to the survival of the US is as stupid as it gets. More than anything else, America is a market. Fear is just a marketing tool used by government, businesses, groups and individuals to sell something. It took me a while to figure out but now I understand how easy it is for bullshit to thrive in this nation.
Do I get some kind of award for that?
Sure.... the "I Bent Over For Trotsky's Tryst".
i'm amused
Great, I'll make a space on my shelf for it.
Great, I'll make a space on my shelf for it. Mister Clean Go check with Gouldi too. I hear on El Pee she and aaron and bulen sabriel have some more for you.
I spelled it wrong... Ghouldi has more for you.
What is it with you people and your fucking awards?
"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs
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#2. To: aristeides (#1)
Some of us think the truth is worth knowing for its own sake.
#3. To: Mister Clean (#2)
#4. To: aristeides (#3)
You seem to have written that it doesn't matter what Alex Jones may or may not have discovered, because he has had no effect on the real world.
#5. To: aristeides (#1)
#6. To: swarthyguy (#5)
Dominant Consensual Reality
#7. To: Mister Clean (#4)
#8. To: aristeides (#7)
So, you admit that, if what Alex Jones has discovered is true, then it's not a waste of time?
#9. To: Mister Clean (#8)
conspiracy theories always remain theories
#10. To: Mister Clean (#8)
#11. To: aristeides (#10)
So, you admit that what matters is, whether or not what he is saying is true, rather than whether or not he has had any effect?
#12. To: swarthyguy (#9)
Good to see you back here posting. Hope things are well with you.
#13. To: swarthyguy (#5)
Dominant Consensual Reality
#14. To: Kamala (#12)
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#15. To: Mister Clean (#2)
I suppose it depends on what "truth" you're talking about.
NUKE DARFUR! (They SAY we must DO SOMETHING, this is something)
#16. To: PnbC (#15)
#17. To: PnbC (#15)
#18. To: ghostdogtxn (#17)
#19. To: aristeides (#18)
Ron Paul for President
#20. To: aristeides (#18)
Carl Cameron's source for his series on the Israeli art students was none other than Dick Cheney.
#21. To: swarthyguy (#20)
Ron Paul for President
#22. To: Mister Clean, aristeides, Pnbc (#0)
#23. To: All (#0)
#24. To: swarthyguy, aristeides (#20)
(Edited)
Carl Cameron's source for his series on the Israeli art students was none other than Dick Cheney.
#25. To: Destro (#24)
#26. To: ghostdogtxn (#22)
What Alex Jones does is confront the world as he sees it, knowing that our "leaders" lie constantly, seeking the truth. Does he make mistakes? I'm sure that he does. But probably fewer than the government approved media that fills our airways with empty, meaningless, glass half-full spew each night.
#27. To: PnbC (#15)
Or the truths not being talked about, such as allegations that there was ample intelligence prior to 9/11 to have prevented the attacks and possibly arresting the hijackers beforehand, but not acted on by the WH.
#28. To: Mister Clean (#26)
I'm simply pointing out that Rush Limbaugh is just a loudmouth who profits through selling fear disguised as the "truth" to people desperate to understand our complex world.
#29. To: swarthyguy (#28)
I'm simply pointing out that Rush Limbaugh is just a loudmouth who profits through selling fear disguised as the "truth" to people desperate to understand our complex world.
#30. To: Mister Clean (#29)
For Bush, al-Qaeda is the biggest threat
#31. To: swarthyguy (#30)
This Saudi lickspittle, blustered about Osama dead or alive, Osama is free and alive, and the Bush family makes billions from their business deals with the Saudis.
#32. To: Mister Clean, Original_Intent, swarthyguy, IndieTx, Red Jones, HOUNDAWG, robin, Zipporah, richard9151, Jethro Tull (#29)
Limbaugh, Jones, Bush, Clinton... all they do is preach fear and unfortunately, there are too many Americans who buy into it.
#33. To: swarthyguy (#30)
You're right about the fear; another area where Bush has shown himself incompetent and stupid; however, from the point of view of enhancing the Bush connections with the Saudi moneybags, it's been brilliant. Instead of calming and leading the country with clarity, he's preyed on people's fears, magnifying them and playing them like his fucking guitar during Katrina to put out his version of a totally ineffective fucking war against Islamists.
#34. To: JCHarris (#32)
I have seen some shills and flying monkey squads...but you are the most insidious and outrageous.
#35. To: Mister Clean (#34)
Do I get some kind of award for that?
#36. To: JCHarris (#35)
#37. To: JCHarris (#35)
Sure.... the "I Bent Over For Trotsky's Tryst".
#38. To: Mister Clean (#37)
Sure.... the "I Bent Over For Trotsky's Tryst".
#39. To: Meester Kleen (#38)
Gouldi
#40. To: Mister Clean (#34)
Do I get some kind of award for that?
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