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Title: Some Words of Caution
Source: Freedom4um
URL Source: http://4um
Published: Jun 27, 2007
Author: Diana, SKYDRIFTER, Aristeides
Post Date: 2007-06-27 08:05:56 by Diana
Keywords: None
Views: 7792
Comments: 156

I ran across an old thread from here, and saw these two posts, one from SKYDRIFTER, the other from aristeides. Here is what SKYDRIFTER had to say:

"Certainly I have my own view on this topic, but I'd have to advise anyone who wants to get into unadulterated "Jew hating," that such is the one thing which would bring down a lot of shit on this forum and its members.

In other words, sometimes it's smart to be afraid of something.

I personally don't hold back on insulting a lot of the alphabet agencies, but the ADL is really dangerous to screw with.

Few people have any clue as to what reality is composed of. The Jewish community has been so damned effective at inflicting "holocaust guilt" on those who rescues their ass that we pay radically more in "Foreign Aid" to Israel, than did the remains of Nazi Germany. The Jewish community is that smart and that powerful.

Yet America continues to fund a parasitic nation, oblivious to the fact that they have never contributed anything worthwhile to the USA. For all the benefit, Israel has never offered a platoon of coffee-serving Boy Scouts to the Iraq war. They will be free of the War Crime guilt, as America is later taxed to fund the reparations to Israeli controlled Iraq.

That's what we're approaching. Attacking Israel ("The Jewish State of Israel") is one thing; being purely and blindly racist is another. That can bring down more problems than most are prepared to deal with.

Y'all be careful, now, hear?"


Here is what aristeides had to say:

To: SKYDRIFTER

"Some people may want to see this forum discredited, and post accordingly."

Everyone here, please heed these words, do not let yourselves get caught up in a frenzy, especially pertaining to this topic, do not take what all posters say at face value, as there are those out there who want to lay traps, and bring about the ruin of certain forums.

Such people are very clever and relentless in their mission, just please be careful, and don't get distracted from the big picture.

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#1. To: SKYDRIFTER, aristeides (#0)

I figured I should ping you guys since I used your words of wisdom.

Diana  posted on  2007-06-27   8:09:11 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Diana (#1)

"Some people may want to see this forum discredited, and post accordingly."

Everyone here, please heed these words, do not let yourselves get caught up in a frenzy, especially pertaining to this topic, do not take what all posters say at face value, as there are those out there who want to lay traps, and bring about the ruin of certain forums.

Such people are very clever and relentless in their mission, just please be careful, and don't get distracted from the big picture.

Absolutely valid point. That is how Liberty Forum has been repeatedly attacked, disrupted, and discredited - by FAKE anti-semites who are actually Zionazis in Drag. Some of the biggest so-called anti-semites on LF are, I am convinced, Jewish/Zionist disinformation posters who wish to reduce Liberty Forum's reach.

One of the biggest so-called anti-semites on LF "The_Skunk" was shown to be using images hosted on the personal website of a female Jewish Psychology Professor.

The same model could well be put into play here to reduce the credibility of people on this forum.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-06-28   19:09:14 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Original_Intent (#30)

That is how Liberty Forum has been repeatedly attacked, disrupted, and discredited - by FAKE anti-semites who are actually Zionazis in Drag. Some of the biggest so-called anti-semites on LF are, I am convinced, Jewish/Zionist disinformation posters who wish to reduce Liberty Forum's reach.

I know there are a lot of people who hate this forum, and say all posters here are virulent antisemites, as if each one of us has identical views which is far from accurate, we are all individuals with all sorts of opinions.

I suspect the ones who go on the loudest about the bad Jews repeatedly, the ones who are just too over-the-top to be for real, are in fact radical Jewish disinfo artists out to rile up posters using mob psychology techniques thereby discrediting the forums. Then they can go back to their bosses and say mission accomplished.

I can't stand people who pretend to be one thing when in fact they are another. I hate trickery and deception.

Diana  posted on  2007-06-29   4:13:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Diana, christine, farmfriend, HOUNDDAWG, IndieTX, Zipporah, all (#32) (Edited)

I can't stand people who pretend to be one thing when in fact they are another. I hate trickery and deception.

"By way of deception thou shalt do war." - Motto of the Mossad

I nevertheless agree, and unfortunately that has become the M.O. of more than one group on web forums i.e., Disinformation/PsyOps.

There is a world of difference between observing, noting, and commenting on Zionist/Israeli criminality and deceptions versus a generalized irrational hatred of jews as a people and a culture. However, in order to discredit legitimate criticism of the actions of zionist criminals it has become the practice by zionist supporters on web forums to attempt to brand all criticism of Israel and Zionism as hatred of Jews which is a lie. Anti-Semitism, the hatred of Jews as Jews, is nothing more than xenophobia and despite the wails of "Oy Vey" is not limited to Jews. Irrational hatreds, unfortunately, abound in human cultures. Just criticism is the observation of delplorable acts and rightly naming them.

The other apparent tactic, as you noted, is to have an Israeli/Zionist supporter misrepresent themselves as an anti-semite and to post "over the top" hate filled screeds to color and deligitimize all legitimate criticism as the irrational ramblings of a hate filled mind. As well it has been the practice of Zionists to incite anti-semitism in order to make the world seem threatening and against them to all jews - thus making them more easily herded and controlled.

As has been noted, and sourced elsewhere, Zionism has to no small degree attempted to create anti-semitism in order to drive Jews to move to their shitty little country. This has been documented by Jews of good heart and moral sensibility - Naem Giladi, Jack Bernstein (who was likely assassinated by Mossad), Alfred Lillienthal, Norman Finklestein, Lenni Brenner, and others. One of the greatest betrayals of WWII was that of German Jews by German Zionists and the liquidation of the Warsaw Ghetto could have been prevented. Their escape was vetoed not by the NAZI criminals but by Jewish Zionists who refused to pay the bribes needed to get them out - because of the condition that they be relocated somewhere other than the Rothschild created Israel. (The Warsaw betrayal is well documented by first hand accounts of survivors.)

To observe and note criminal actions, and to publicly deplore them, is the action of a rational mind observing reality and excercising rational ethical sensibilities. It is up to the intelligent and sophisticated reader to draw conclusions for themselves.

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-06-29   12:37:38 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: Original_Intent (#34)

As has been noted, and sourced elsewhere, Zionism has to no small degree attempted to create anti-semitism in order to drive Jews to move to their shitty little country. This has been documented by Jews of good heart and moral sensibility - Naem Giladi, Jack Bernstein (who was likely assassinated by Mossad), Alfred Lillienthal, Norman Finklestein, Lenni Brenner, and others

interesting history

robin  posted on  2007-06-29   13:41:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: robin, christine, Zipporah, farmfriend, Diana, all (#42)

interesting history

Here is a short collection of articles that give some of the flavor of the realities involved:

The Life of an American Jew in Marxist Racist Israel

The Jews of Iraq

The Difference Between Judaism and Zionism

WHY IS WORLD JEWRY OPPOSED TO THE ZIONIST STATE

The Middle East Quandary – The Traditional View (from a pamphlet distributed by Neturei Karta)

Original_Intent  posted on  2007-06-29   14:57:44 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: Original_Intent (#46)

Thanks for the links.

robin  posted on  2007-06-29   19:22:27 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: robin (#50)

You are most welcome.

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