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Title: Some Words of Caution
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Published: Jun 27, 2007
Author: Diana, SKYDRIFTER, Aristeides
Post Date: 2007-06-27 08:05:56 by Diana
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I ran across an old thread from here, and saw these two posts, one from SKYDRIFTER, the other from aristeides. Here is what SKYDRIFTER had to say: "Certainly I have my own view on this topic, but I'd have to advise anyone who wants to get into unadulterated "Jew hating," that such is the one thing which would bring down a lot of shit on this forum and its members. In other words, sometimes it's smart to be afraid of something. I personally don't hold back on insulting a lot of the alphabet agencies, but the ADL is really dangerous to screw with. Few people have any clue as to what reality is composed of. The Jewish community has been so damned effective at inflicting "holocaust guilt" on those who rescues their ass that we pay radically more in "Foreign Aid" to Israel, than did the remains of Nazi Germany. The Jewish community is that smart and that powerful. Yet America continues to fund a parasitic nation, oblivious to the fact that they have never contributed anything worthwhile to the USA. For all the benefit, Israel has never offered a platoon of coffee-serving Boy Scouts to the Iraq war. They will be free of the War Crime guilt, as America is later taxed to fund the reparations to Israeli controlled Iraq. That's what we're approaching. Attacking Israel ("The Jewish State of Israel") is one thing; being purely and blindly racist is another. That can bring down more problems than most are prepared to deal with. Y'all be careful, now, hear?" To: SKYDRIFTER "Some people may want to see this forum discredited, and post accordingly." Everyone here, please heed these words, do not let yourselves get caught up in a frenzy, especially pertaining to this topic, do not take what all posters say at face value, as there are those out there who want to lay traps, and bring about the ruin of certain forums. Such people are very clever and relentless in their mission, just please be careful, and don't get distracted from the big picture.
Here is what aristeides had to say:
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I figured I should ping you guys since I used your words of wisdom.
It is easy to advocate fear and the loss of free speech. Some run , some hide, some fight.
I'd nearly forgotten that one. Still good advice. Thanks.
It's about accuracy and prudence not fear. I agree with what Diana, aristeides and SKY have posted on 4um about this subject. It is inaccurate to attribute all the evil of a fringe element to everyone associated with that group. It is wise and prudent to choose accurate words. A worthy goal, can't say I always qualify, everyone gets angry and needs to vent. Considering the motives of people who are continually careless with their choice of words and who appear to be inciting others is reasonable given what we know about past Psyops tactics.
I still smell the FEAR !! (-: Land of the Free and Home of the Brave OOZING FEAR.
Maybe you just need to wash your face ;P
No, not fear, just that people need to be rational and discerning and should not only focus on one element of a problem that could bring down a lot of trouble on a lot of people. What robin said here was correct: "Considering the motives of people who are continually careless with their choice of words and who appear to be inciting others is reasonable given what we know about past Psyops tactics." we must all keep that in mind.
Name just one noble thing that Israel has ever done.
Chuck Colson said that?
thanks, Diana, good advice...i did see aristeides' post (and remember the thread on which he posted it well) but had missed Sky's.
Yep - Chuck's seen the light.
I guess he has...unlike Pat Robertson.
Screw 'em. Besides, y'all know you have me as point guard/nosetackle.
"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs
redrum
right. no worries then. ;)
Is nosetackle an antisemitic term?
"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs
I fear nothing, what's your problem? :)
"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs
Hmm not even this? :P
No, I can see the red elastic neckband, sorry.
"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs
.. drat :P
Every night I look under the bed and in the closet for sock puppets. I really, really am scared of them.
Freeper motto: I read, but do not understand, I write, but make no sense, I think, but nothing happens.
My cat made me loath dust bunnies, she just kept yowling until I cleaned to her satisfaction. Damn, cats are dumb.
"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs
Wirklich? and who are the school marms here practicing their own brands of control? To each his own....and the devil take the hindmost.
Guttermouth - 1,2,3 Slam "A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs
Haven't gotten to know me yet have you? Thank you.
I was trying to explain benefits of using domestic cats on a cleaning crew rather than importing panthers or something.
"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs
Oh, yeah. I forgot. Panthers have their benefits, though. They can do more, much quicker.
Everyone here, please heed these words, do not let yourselves get caught up in a frenzy, especially pertaining to this topic, do not take what all posters say at face value, as there are those out there who want to lay traps, and bring about the ruin of certain forums. Such people are very clever and relentless in their mission, just please be careful, and don't get distracted from the big picture. Absolutely valid point. That is how Liberty Forum has been repeatedly attacked, disrupted, and discredited - by FAKE anti-semites who are actually Zionazis in Drag. Some of the biggest so-called anti-semites on LF are, I am convinced, Jewish/Zionist disinformation posters who wish to reduce Liberty Forum's reach. One of the biggest so-called anti-semites on LF "The_Skunk" was shown to be using images hosted on the personal website of a female Jewish Psychology Professor. The same model could well be put into play here to reduce the credibility of people on this forum.
"To the degree that the government can take from you the produce of your labor without your consent you are that much a slave." - Me
ME Noseguard. Kill Quarterback!
"To the degree that the government can take from you the produce of your labor without your consent you are that much a slave." - Me
I know there are a lot of people who hate this forum, and say all posters here are virulent antisemites, as if each one of us has identical views which is far from accurate, we are all individuals with all sorts of opinions. I suspect the ones who go on the loudest about the bad Jews repeatedly, the ones who are just too over-the-top to be for real, are in fact radical Jewish disinfo artists out to rile up posters using mob psychology techniques thereby discrediting the forums. Then they can go back to their bosses and say mission accomplished. I can't stand people who pretend to be one thing when in fact they are another. I hate trickery and deception.
I have resisted becoming one of these "virulent anti-semites" for a very long time, however, if the true meaning of anti-semite is actually anti-zionist and with the historical facts being what they are ... I must admit that I most certainly do loathe them with an undeniable, immeasurable fervor.
Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say 'what should be the reward of such sacrifices?' Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship, plough, sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!”
"By way of deception thou shalt do war." - Motto of the Mossad I nevertheless agree, and unfortunately that has become the M.O. of more than one group on web forums i.e., Disinformation/PsyOps. There is a world of difference between observing, noting, and commenting on Zionist/Israeli criminality and deceptions versus a generalized irrational hatred of jews as a people and a culture. However, in order to discredit legitimate criticism of the actions of zionist criminals it has become the practice by zionist supporters on web forums to attempt to brand all criticism of Israel and Zionism as hatred of Jews which is a lie. Anti-Semitism, the hatred of Jews as Jews, is nothing more than xenophobia and despite the wails of "Oy Vey" is not limited to Jews. Irrational hatreds, unfortunately, abound in human cultures. Just criticism is the observation of delplorable acts and rightly naming them. The other apparent tactic, as you noted, is to have an Israeli/Zionist supporter misrepresent themselves as an anti-semite and to post "over the top" hate filled screeds to color and deligitimize all legitimate criticism as the irrational ramblings of a hate filled mind. As well it has been the practice of Zionists to incite anti-semitism in order to make the world seem threatening and against them to all jews - thus making them more easily herded and controlled. As has been noted, and sourced elsewhere, Zionism has to no small degree attempted to create anti-semitism in order to drive Jews to move to their shitty little country. This has been documented by Jews of good heart and moral sensibility - Naem Giladi, Jack Bernstein (who was likely assassinated by Mossad), Alfred Lillienthal, Norman Finklestein, Lenni Brenner, and others. One of the greatest betrayals of WWII was that of German Jews by German Zionists and the liquidation of the Warsaw Ghetto could have been prevented. Their escape was vetoed not by the NAZI criminals but by Jewish Zionists who refused to pay the bribes needed to get them out - because of the condition that they be relocated somewhere other than the Rothschild created Israel. (The Warsaw betrayal is well documented by first hand accounts of survivors.) To observe and note criminal actions, and to publicly deplore them, is the action of a rational mind observing reality and excercising rational ethical sensibilities. It is up to the intelligent and sophisticated reader to draw conclusions for themselves.
"To the degree that the government can take from you the produce of your labor without your consent you are that much a slave." - Me
very well said.
hmmmmm
One of the biggest so-called anti-semites on LF "The_Skunk" was shown to be using images hosted on the personal website of a female Jewish Psychology Professor. The same model could well be put into play here to reduce the credibility of people on this forum. I agree.
ping to post #30.
LIberty Forums problems had more to do with constant infighting and power struggle over control of the forum. You already know who I think was responsible for that.
Great post. I've noticed a trend these past few years where too many people are bashing all Jews, not just the radicals and rabid zionists. They are lumping in everyone who may be Jewish, no matter what their beliefs, and they miss the fact that there are many Jews who feel exactly the same way we do, who are against the war, who are against the policies of Israel and so on. In Israel there are so many clashes between Jews with widely varying beliefs who hate each other, we don't hear much about that over here, it's just too easy to lump them all together and say they are all evil, including the little old Jewish ladies who feed birds in the park. Those who hate them all are mindless anger-filled individuals who just need some group to focus their instense rage on. What really bugs me is when the radical Jew posers/trickster come onto forums and target such people using devious psychological methods, manipulating them by inciting more anger and whipping them into a frenzy. That is so dishonest and it further poisons the souls of the people they are targeting. Then those trouble-makers go elsewhere and bash the forum they have wrecked havoc upon, saying shit like see what a bunch of low-life idiots the people at that forum are? Some people already say that about this one, and there have already been several attempts in the past by hit and run posters to incite the more angry ones among us, and to piss off the more intelligent ones into leaving, obviously targeting them, just coming out of nowhere to bully them and insult them until they leave altogether. There was one guy who was very successful at that, he went after the brightest posters here, just repeatedly insulted them until most left, though a few have returned. It's too bad there's not a way to prevent such tricksters and frauds from showing up here in the first place.
We could shoot them. :-)
interesting history
Thank you.
"To the degree that the government can take from you the produce of your labor without your consent you are that much a slave." - Me
LIberty Forums problems had more to do with constant infighting and power struggle over control of the forum. You already know who I think was responsible for that. That came after the fact though. LF had already been disrupted and thrown into turmoil because of the repeated PsyOps attacks. While your observation is valid - it was more a symptom of the pre-existing problem rather than the cause. As well the disappearance of John Deere as the controlling and organizing entity left a cloud of doubt over LF's legitimate operation.
"To the degree that the government can take from you the produce of your labor without your consent you are that much a slave." - Me
Thanks, and not bad yourself. I could comment extensively, as you make some excellent points, but don't have time at the moment to write that extensively. That is quite true and is, at least in part, a result of the Zionists actions to identify Zionism with Judaism and hence ALL Jews. Which of course is, as you know, false. If you read some of the stuff from Theodore Herzl's own writings you can see that early on one of the Zionist tactics was to create and inflame anti-semitic feelings in order to populate Israel with Jews fleeing "anti-semitism". The Zionazis give credence to that by their attempts to smear dissenting Jews of good conscience with the smear "self hating Jew" in order to keep them from waking up the suckers. That is very true, but it is not published here because the Zionists are in control of American media. Just as you will rarely if ever see protests against Israel that are staged by American Jews. The pretense is that they don't exist or are very small in number. However, increasingly, to the zionist's dismay, more and more American Jews have woken up to the Con. That is standard operating procedure for the Zionists. They want to create hatred and anti-semitism as it is one of their control mechanisms over other Jews. By creating fear they in turn use that fear to control others. It is basically PsyOps - although it has been in use before the term PsyOps was invented. However, IT IS psychological manipulation of both Jews and non-Jews to get the desired reaction and response. Again that IS the objective. To silence discussion and debate and to turn discussion into a "flame-fest" where intelligent discussion and debate become impossible. Mission Accomplished. That is the desire - to drive off the intelligent posters who do reason and present their case rationally and with balance. It was very successful on Liberty Forum and destroyed its usefulness as a megaphone for reason. As to the disruptions of the management of the site which farmfriend alludes to - I suspect that was part of the "game plan".
"To the degree that the government can take from you the produce of your labor without your consent you are that much a slave." - Me
Here is a short collection of articles that give some of the flavor of the realities involved: The Life of an American Jew in Marxist Racist Israel The Difference Between Judaism and Zionism WHY IS WORLD JEWRY OPPOSED TO THE ZIONIST STATE The Middle East Quandary – The Traditional View (from a pamphlet distributed by Neturei Karta)
"To the degree that the government can take from you the produce of your labor without your consent you are that much a slave." - Me
Good to remember. It's not "the Jews," it's Zionism and a relatively small number of religious fanatics as well as a heaping helping of hubris.
I'll take your word for it since there was an extensive period of time when I didn't post there.
Thanks for those links, and for pointing out also that there are some Jews who are not evil and should not be condemned merely for being Jewish. There are people out there being brain-washed into believing every last one of them is demonic, not taking into consideration recent converts, kindly Jews who help others, etc. Not all are like Abe Foxman or Alan Dershowitz, though me having pointied that out appears to have angered some. I hope those people read those links. I tell you I would not want to be Jewish in this day and age.
Thanks for the links.
You're welcome. The Jewish people can be insular and clannish but those who behave with foul intent are no more numerous than in any other group. However the clannishness and insular exclusivity has tended to foster distrust. No not all are like Foxman or Dershotwit. Both are operating from a hidden agenda and it goes back to the Zionist strategy of generating increased anti-semitismin order to to keep Jews a controlled group, and no not all Jews are like those two dirtbags.
"To the degree that the government can take from you the produce of your labor without your consent you are that much a slave." - Me
You are most welcome.
"To the degree that the government can take from you the produce of your labor without your consent you are that much a slave." - Me
Wait a minute...did not the "Skunk" conclude that the Entebbe Raid was pure Jewish myth years before the BBC issued a report tied to probable French intelligence sources? So what if he used a picture from a Jewish psychologist website...sometimes the pictures are used as illustration in brevity to shorten the message. The vast majority are well sourced and the Skunk offers his interpretation...Much better than any Zion-owned MSM media has ever done.
Dianna, I've read from the beginning and I truly remember those posts. You do a service to bring them to mind. Its good to to be careful about saying things. On the other hand, how long will we let the man dictate what we talk about? Wasn't there an amandment about this shit? When does the shit get goin?
A good disinformationist will tell the truth most of the time in order to get the disinformation accepted when it is slid in. Skunk has also been caught planting false stories hosted on one of the servers he uses - the one that stands out in memory was the one about the Israeli company building prefab prisons. It was totally bogus and he/she/they got called on it. As well it is likely that "Skunk" is more than one person inhabiting the same persona - much like "Daisy". I firmly believe Skunk to be a "False Flag" Poster. I have never sorted out his/her/their full game but I know enough to know that I trust nothing coming from "The_Skunk".
"To the degree that the government can take from you the produce of your labor without your consent you are that much a slave." - Me
One of the links in my previous post has ceased to exist - so here is an alternate I found:
"To the degree that the government can take from you the produce of your labor without your consent you are that much a slave." - Me
You'll have to sort that out with HOUNDDAWG as he's a personal friend (cyberspace-wise) with Daisy. As for prison story...Skunk didn't mention Halliburton prison system and Dick Cheney's office...clearly a very bad reporting oversight. Then again, who is Dick's office?...public enemy #1 still at large, Elliot Abrams...and capo to Jew majordomo #1 Michael Chertoff. Noachide Law Reichsmarshall.
From The Life of an American Jew in Racist Marxist Israel: I had no emotional conflict with leaving the U.S. because I was still able to keep my U.S. citizenship and could return to the U.S. at any time. You see, Jews are allowed to be citizens of both Israel and some countries -- U.S. is one of those countries. The U.S. government allows a Jew to be a citizen of both U.S. and Israel. German Americans cannot be citizens of both the U.S. and Germany. Italian Americans cannot be citizen of both U.S. and Italy. Egyptian-Americans cannot be citizens of both the U.S. and Egypt . . . BUT, a Jewish American can be a citizen of both Israel and the U.S. THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THE POWER THE ZIONIST JEWS HAVE OVER THE U.S. GOVERNMENT.
German Americans cannot be citizens of both the U.S. and Germany. Italian Americans cannot be citizen of both U.S. and Italy. Egyptian-Americans cannot be citizens of both the U.S. and Egypt . . . BUT, a Jewish American can be a citizen of both Israel and the U.S. THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THE POWER THE ZIONIST JEWS HAVE OVER THE U.S. GOVERNMENT. Always something new to learn.
Especially wanted criminals...if the Jewish fugitive has enough clout...a red-eyed El Al flight to Tel Aviv will be made available. One of the main reasons for Israel's existence.
It was that recognition and stating it that might have been what got Jack whacked. That and he was a powerful voice that the Zionists could not discredit with the usual smear tactics - he was Jewish so the anti-semite card couldn't play, he had immigrated to Israel and found his wife there so the "self hating Jew" canard did not play either. Even worse he was relatively young, so he was going to be around for a long time, articulate, and they could not shut him up - short of murdering him. So, he was murdered to shut him up.
"To the degree that the government can take from you the produce of your labor without your consent you are that much a slave." - Me
This one really deserves its own thread.
oh, i didn't know that.
Just a sweet little old group of God-loving people , sharingtheir genius, generous in fact and spirit and loyal to the community at large in which they happily live. What bullshit! in all respects ! Every one I have ever known would kiss the ring of Foxman and friends, steal your grandmothers ring and watch your children starve...if not plotting your detriment or downfall.
Include Jack Kennedy...and the Dimona Project. His protests got him whacked...and many more.
If you really believe this you have bought the schtick, hook line and sinker. This allows you to conveniently forget the largest group....! 42% Marxist...the ones in control of your school system///remember? The schtick is for you to confuse one head with the other on the two-headed coin. It works so you miss the danger. You missed it and so does Diana Only 18% are even marginally observant! so what are the other 82%? The "fanatics" as you call them are about 50% harmless, the best group to associate with if you care for your civilization....50-50 is much better than the Two-headed coin you do not see because of its outward lack of recognition and interchangeable denial.
Then you would be a fool ! 14 times the yearly earning... 100 times the net worth... break in the front of the line on everything from contracts, cushy positions, med school....you name it... Diana . get out of the fishing village and join the real world.
What bullshit! in all respects ! Every one I have ever known would kiss the ring of Foxman and friends, steal your grandmothers ring and watch your children starve...if not plotting your detriment or downfall. I'm not arguing that all Jews are Saints - merely human with the same foibles that afflict all of mankind - hubris, greed, etc., but there are still those who evidence the nobler side of humanity as well. One could make the same kinds of arguments against any tight knit ethnic group - Italians, Gypsys, Irish Travelers, Chinese (try getting anywhere in Chinatown in San Francisco if you are not Chinese - fugiddaboutit), etc., ... However, Jews have been very successful and the ethics of some to others outside of their group can be ummmm - questionable.
"To the degree that the government can take from you the produce of your labor without your consent you are that much a slave." - Me
JCHarris...seriously, are you asking a kind soul like Diana to join The Talmud?
You should see it from the inside....your schema would change dramatically.
Able to blend in but ethnocentric. Nepotism is rampant. A mafia mentality. I just don't define success that way, but the world does. Making money is one thing, running our foreign policy is another. You don't see Armenians trying to run our govt for Armenia.
Yep, I've seen it...my senior management should be up on charges for falsifying data...instead, they got an advance, yet totally incompetent in their job descriptions. Us and Them.
It's the most obvious in the workplace. Just as it is in the appointed positions of our govt, another workplace.
Works like that at every level... try telling that to our more naive friends here. Do you have any idea how low Goyim are considered? One notch above schwartzers...and that relegates to the animal kingdom... but ahhhh the PUBLIC FACE. Playing to the Poconos 24/7....and stuffing the bank account and stepping RIGHT UP, with NO PENALTY, to the head of EVERY LINE.
Not to mention that he wanted to shut down "the Company" and restore the currency to its rightful place in the U.S. Treasury.
"To the degree that the government can take from you the produce of your labor without your consent you are that much a slave." - Me
Who's the real CEO? The song remains the same. Henry Ford had a trusted assistance to sign of a forgery note with his name to declare the Dearborn Independent was not associated with him and a pack of lies. Charles Lindbergh was poised to a good VP in a Presidential campaign...Well, it's all over now except the last Sirhan Sirhan, Sirhan....
You don't see Armenians trying to run our govt for Armenia. There you point out my one major objection to the actions of Israel and its supporters in this country - I don't care if someone is ethnocentric, I find it parochial and narrow minded but that is an individual prerogative, but when it comes to tilting our foreign policy for the interest of another nation engaged in criminal practices I do object, and very strongly. That is why I take time to try to show what is behind the curtain as I understand it (and the more I learn the more I want it exposed).
"To the degree that the government can take from you the produce of your labor without your consent you are that much a slave." - Me
post didn't look right so I took it out.
Thank you for posting this.
Chuck Norris puts the "laughter" in "manslaughter".
I highly doubt it. Chuck wouldn't spout crap like that. Notice there is no supporting link or anything.
LOL. You think disparaging the Jews as useless is 'seeing the light'. You wackjob.
Name just one noble thing that Israel has ever done.
hmm
Troll alert.
..you work for Mazda?
Heh, heh, heh...not near any complicated machinery, I hope.
hmmmm....i smell corn.
.. uh huh...
OI... Perhaps you care to repost from a few days ago what you said about...hanging all anti-semites was ..."not a bad idea". That vulgar refrain was overlooked by most of the posters on this thread. Very subtle. Nothing was taken out of context, those are your words and no epistles of explanation will suffice. These people need to read it for themselves.
What's your source for the Colson quote?
That might be an oncoming stroke. Or is that when you smell burnt toast?
There are two Colson's one is Chuck (Watergate fame) and Charles a former baptist minister who now heads the group below... STRAIT GATE MINISTRIES Our mission is to rescue followers of Christ from the apostasy called Christian-Zionism. We reach out to the "lost sheep" inside our churches who do not know they are lost. They will remain lost if they listen only to their apostate religious leaders. Our purpose is to point the ancient way to the "Strait Gate."* Christian-Zionism, by whatever name, is not that path and is purely a political movement. We would turn Christ followers to Peacemakers, away from the evil of warring on behalf of Israel, or for any other foreign state. We humbly believe God must see Christian-Zionism as the vilest apostasy in the 2000 year history of Christianity. Its sly forerunner goes by the name of Judeo-Christianity, also an oxymoron.
Should I change my name to "balls balls balls"?
Either an interview, speech, or column that he did - I'll look for it.
Thanks, Rob. I'll check it out.
Maybe a combination of zooming and balls. Maybe something about balls zooming at your chin.
Take your time. Read twice.
Charles Wendell "Chuck" Colson (born October 16, 1931) was the chief counsel for President Richard Nixon from 1969 to 1973 and was one of the Watergate Seven, jailed for Watergate-related charges. His later life has been spent working with his non-profit organization devoted to prison ministry called Prison Fellowship. Colson is also a public speaker and author. He is founder and chairman of the Wilberforce Forum, which is the "Christian worldview thinking, teaching, and advocacy arm of" Prison Fellowship, and includes Colson's daily radio broadcast, BreakPoint, now heard on a thousand outlets. The ministry conducts justice reform efforts through Justice Fellowship.[1] Colson has received fifteen honorary doctorates and in 1993 was awarded the Templeton Prize, the world's largest cash gift (over $1 million), which is given each year to the one person in the world who has done the most to advance the cause of religion. He donated this prize, as he does all speaking fees and royalties, to further the work of Prison Fellowship.
See the 'Full Moon Kook Festival' thread. We were considering giving you a spot on the site. But you blew it by sneaking back like this.
Bunch of internet bums ... grand jury --- opium den ! ~ byeltsin
What name are you using on LP today?
Chuck Colson is a christian zionist he supported the Iraq war on the bases of the so called "just war" theory which is used to justify protection of the zionists in Israel...many of todays leading southern baptists preach from the "scoefield bible"...aka rapture monkeys
Chuck Colson's name sounds a lot like one of your recent guests ... but they're not the same guy. Chuck Colson was a Nixon era Watergate bungler and is as you say ... a rapture monkey !
Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say 'what should be the reward of such sacrifices?' Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship, plough, sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!”
His later life has been spent working with his non-profit organization devoted to prison ministry called Prison Fellowship. Colson is also a public speaker and author. He is founder and chairman of the Wilberforce Forum, which is the "Christian worldview thinking, teaching, and advocacy arm of" Prison Fellowship, and includes Colson's daily radio broadcast, BreakPoint, now heard on a thousand outlets. The ministry conducts justice reform efforts through Justice Fellowship.[1] Colson has received fifteen honorary doctorates and in 1993 was awarded the Templeton Prize, the world's largest cash gift (over $1 million), which is given each year to the one person in the world who has done the most to advance the cause of religion. He donated this prize, as he does all speaking fees and royalties, to further the work of Prison Fellowship. Looks like the same guy. I don't know about his rapture beliefs.
Most people who follow the just war theory (which derives from St. Augustine and has been used by Christians to judge the morality of wars for centuries) have concluded that Bush's Iraq war is unjust.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
The guy on Rob Noel's show is named Chuck Carlson ... I think ! I was confused about it because the guy on Rob's show thinks a lot like I do, scripturally speaking ... and I may be nuttier than a fruit cake ... but I ain't no rapture nutter !
Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say 'what should be the reward of such sacrifices?' Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship, plough, sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!”
I don't think that there are many, if any, RM's here, and looking at Colson's websites, I can't find out (yet) what is his take. He's certainly changed from Nixon's "Hatchet Man," to what he's doing today. Most impressive.
The guy that was Nixonian filth has a prison ministry (allegedly) and he's probably recruiting killers for the NWO ! Again, not the same guy that has been a guest on Rob Noel's Show !
Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say 'what should be the reward of such sacrifices?' Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship, plough, sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!”
Charles Colson has become a regular guest for the past few weeks he hosted my show last Wednesday 20th and Thursday 21st...if you interested you can listen to it on podcast http://www.republicbroadcasting.org/get_archive.php?hn=Noel&yr=07
I've heard him on your show and other archived stuff (I think, maybe I'm confused) but the guy you had on wasn't the Nixonite was he ? Actually I heard the show he did for you. Is it 150 degrees outside today (yet) Robbie ???
Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say 'what should be the reward of such sacrifices?' Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship, plough, sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!”
The Skunk is like a comedian. Not sure who/what he/she/it is, but it is funny. Even funnier if he/she/it is Jewish.
No...its a perfect 111...it only gets bad when the humidity rises and the monsoons kick in but that is a small price to pay to get rid of all the "snow birds"
My daughter lives in Queens Creek ... 111, that's nice !
Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say 'what should be the reward of such sacrifices?' Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship, plough, sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!”
This does not sound like a rapture-nutter to me, and there can't be two different Charles Colsons out there preaching. Can there?
Perhaps you care to repost from a few days ago what you said about...hanging all anti-semites was ..."not a bad idea". That vulgar refrain was overlooked by most of the posters on this thread. Very subtle. Nothing was taken out of context, those are your words and no epistles of explanation will suffice. These people need to read it for themselves. No my comment was a vague agreement which which was an inept choice of words. after you pointed it out was, and is, recanted. I do not favor such and do not believe in prior restraint, and in fact oppose it vehemently. Having said that I do not favor spreading hate against anyone - even if they are at times hateful. If you wish to hold a bad choice of words as the final word that is your choice, but that does not mean that such truly reflects my mind upon such matters. I simply and clearly oppose irrational hatreds of all kinds.
"To the degree that the government can take from you the produce of your labor without your consent you are that much a slave." - Me
Yes there are two...Chuck is the "watergate" guy and preaches dispensationalism Charles on the other hand is a anti-dispensationalist if you will ...
Thanks for the clarification. Now, I can get on with the day.
http://whtt.org/ This is the guy that was on Robbie's show !
Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say 'what should be the reward of such sacrifices?' Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship, plough, sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!”
Wait !!! Don't get on with the day just yet ... hehehehehe !!! Robbie don't even know who's runnin the show when he's gone ! Ha !!!!!
Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say 'what should be the reward of such sacrifices?' Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship, plough, sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!”
OI... You insult the intelligence of those that post here. Bad choice of words does not pass muster even for disingenuous. You wrote the four words with afore thought. Anyone as learned as you seem to be had to know what those words constituted and what the background for their insertion intended. They were your chosen words and you will have to live with them as long as you remain here.
Common decency would require a retraction of your stupid post and an apology to Chuck ... then get on with your day (gin bottle).
There might be a few RM's here, but they don't subscribe to the same belief system as the ones you hear so much about; like the Falwell/Robertson/Hagee crowd, for example.
what's an RM ?
Rapture Monkey.
ROTFL.... yeah !
I simply can't let this go by. Having had a similar discussion with you some weeks ago, it is obvious that your opposition to "irrational hatred..." of Christian anti-semites would result, at the least, "in outlawing of anti- semitism". OI, where in your "reading of bits and pieces of history" have you received confirmation that outlawing a person's emotional response to others could be successfully curtailed by legislation???
On an RBN re-broadcast, I'm listening to Pastor Chuck, subbing for Robbie Noel, and he gave out their website - http://www.whtt.org - they'll be protesting Hagee and the RM extravaganza to be held in Phoenix.
So I'm guessing an apology and retraction is not going to happen Oh, well, at least everyone can see what stock to put the things you say. Asswipe.
Is "zoom" short for masturbating Zoo Monkey? Thought so.
Thesis: Official 9/11 story is an unproven conspiracy theory. http://911truth.org http://Justicefor911.org http://summeroftruth.org Probable-cause standards have been met for an unlimited investigation of unsolved crimes relating to the events of Sept. 11, including allegations of criminal negligence, cover-up, complicity or commission of the attacks by US officials and assets of intel services.
ok, troll. byebye. btw, corn, i thought you said you wouldn't try to come back?
Excellent link...thanks!
-- RobotChicken- Zoom Zoom Zoom
Thesis: Official 9/11 story is an unproven conspiracy theory. http://911truth.org http://Justicefor911.org http://summeroftruth.org Probable-cause standards have been met for an unlimited investigation of unsolved crimes relating to the events of Sept. 11, including allegations of criminal negligence, cover-up, complicity or commission of the attacks by US officials and assets of intel services.
I just burned thirty minutes on Eoghan's most excellent video post on the CIA's mind control programs. Great video when you have the time to view it. The "stuff" just keeps getting deeper, and deeper.
Link or post #? I'm too self-absorbed to go look for it...
Whacked before he answered Zip's Mazda question...
I'll try tomorow.
I verk for Matzah !
Being opposed to someones irrational hatreds does imply that I favor laws restricting speech and thought. While I most definitely and emphatically deplore such mania I do not support restrictions upon speech and thought and DO NOT presume to put words in my mouth. That is purely and simply dishonest argumentation when you impute a position not taken. Further I oppose irrational hatreds directed at ANY individual or group. When one generalizes and attempts to imply that all members of a group share a behavior exhibited by SOME members of a group you commit a classic logical fallacy. Please demonstrate where I have EVER taken that position? Again you are attempting to imply a position which I have not taken and render argument by innuendoe and presumption. This is basically nothing more than a Strawman Argument. Not only is that logically false it is ethically reprehensible. Nowhere have I ever taken such a position nor seriously supported or argued in favor of such. One offhand comment does not a position make.
"To the degree that the government can take from you the produce of your labor without your consent you are that much a slave." - Me
You insult the intelligence of those that post here. Bad choice of words does not pass muster even for disingenuous. You wrote the four words with afore thought. Anyone as learned as you seem to be had to know what those words constituted and what the background for their insertion intended. They were your chosen words and you will have to live with them as long as you remain here. No, you insult my intelligence and that of other posters. I have made clear my disavowal of that offhanded comment. It is thus becoming apparent given that disavowal that the comment to which you have taken offense and blown beyond all reasonable proportion is your pretext, but likely not your true reason, for fashioning your personal attack upon me. What is becoming rapidly apparent is that you have other motivations for your personal attack so this becomes increasingly interesting. Are you a False Flag Poster? OR Do you merely have a mania? At one time I had respect for your integrity, though I did not always agree with you, you have now thrown a shadow over that and have caused me to reconsider that judgement. A fixation upon one offhanded comment, to which you provide no link in which to provide context, does cause me to wonder. In any event your fixation is minimally just that - an obsession to find fault particularly given that I have now, on at least three occaisions, accepted and granted the rightness of your questioning that comment. That you refuse to let it go leads me to conclude that you have a hidden agenda which you are not stating in your attacks. (Edited to correct typo.)
"To the degree that the government can take from you the produce of your labor without your consent you are that much a slave." - Me
Pardon me OI, but your are demonstrating a fallacy here...because the Jewish group is like no other group in the timeline of human events. The vast majority are agnostic, the majority are politically Socialist, yet the huge majority identify themselve with the "Great State of Israel, the Only Democracy in the Middle East." Why is the simple fact of pointing this out wrong or in error? This is a unique group that bears scrutiny...There is no Jewish Silent Majority...the few that do speak out in truth are castigated and lives are virtually ruined. Do you condone this? Lynching "anti-Semites" will solve the problem? Jews, at tops, 3% of the populous...yet hold 99% of congressional puppet strings...this is anti-Semitic also? Well forget about it... In my personal opinion, you should learn to let go of the early schooling and see things as they really are. Good luck my friend...Biggest fallacy?...They're just like you and me...take that to the Bank of Talmud and try to cash that check?
"To the degree that the government can take from you the produce of your labor without your consent you are that much a slave." - Me
Thank you very little for the response my friend...
Do tight knit ethnic groups stick together and support each other? Well, yes. It may be parochial and insular but it is not limited to Jews. Although they have, as a group, been particularly obstinate about it. I'm not defending that parochialism, I am just opposing some people using it as an excuse to hate others. That is a generalization which you are trying to state as an absolute. Group think and group solidarity is nothing unique to Jews they have just been held together more tightly as a group throughout the centuries - both by manipulations of their leaders and by actual oppression. Mind you I am not defending that parochialism but have sought to understand it. Jews are by no means a monolithic bloc, although at times they might seem that way. It is almost as though you are dealing with a very large extended family. I might have kicked the snot out of my little brother when we were growing up but if you an outsider lay a hand on him you are going to have to deal with one pissed off S.O.B.. So, it frequently seems with the Jewish community, but realize that Jews can be looked at as several different groups and the one which is virulent is those which have styled themselves leaders, and overlords, and ordinary Jews are and have been manipulated into identifying with and supporting things which are ultimately against their own best interests. However, there are cracks in the facade and although strong arm tactics and peer pressure still work to keep many "in line" there are breakaways and the monolith is cracking. We live in a turbulent time and this is only one issue, an important one, among many.
"To the degree that the government can take from you the produce of your labor without your consent you are that much a slave." - Me
In my personal opinion, you should learn to let go of the early schooling and see things as they really are. Good luck my friend...Biggest fallacy?...They're just like you and me...take that to the Bank of Talmud and try to cash that check? “Yes, but is this good for Jews?" Eoghan OI is strangely apologetic and incorrect in his essay....and essay rather a recitation of reality is what it is. I smell the sulphurous smell of fear and a schtick again.
Apologetic my ass. Do not mistake my desire be polite and considerate as either lack of resolve or inability to defend myself. And vague innuedoes without substance or backing are treated as the covert ad hominems they are. Incorrect upon what point oh Sage? Enlighten me with your wisdom. If a nuanced discussion is beyond you then perhaps you should retire to the sidelines?
"To the degree that the government can take from you the produce of your labor without your consent you are that much a slave." - Me
The cracks in the facade is called the internet...the pendulum is swinging back...real history is coming more into focus. The Jewish stories of Greatness are being exposed as 1920 Vaudeville acts, thus the increase of Holocaust fairy tale stories repeated in the media almost weekly. (Especially after 9/11) " It is almost as though you are dealing with a very large extended family." That strikes me as strange in a stranger land. Irish Catholic families in earlier decades had all of that a more in birth numbers. Yes, pride for Ireland, but patriotic to the core for their adopted land, despite the WASP resentment. They proved themselves worthy over the decades. What has the Jewish group done in comparison? Ownership: Feats of law, feats of medicine, feats education, feats of entertainment...all the above as been perverted. No truth, no advancement...de-evolution into the melting pot...a cesspool, by design. The Russians were a good people, the Germans were a good people...infact they were the hight of art and poetry at the start of the 20th century...Can't happen to us? Hahaha...Col. Chertoff.
I am so intimidated by your strong arm tactics... ohhhhh please.....shiver me timbers...brrrrrr
I'm too tired to do an extended reply, but I do find your argument somewhat simplistic - and I don't mean that in offensive snide sense. The problem with analogies is that they are never exact and can be at first analogous but upon further examination diverge. However, doing a proper development would take more time than I have at the moment. I might revisit this because you do raise some points worth discussing I am just not up to it this evening.
"To the degree that the government can take from you the produce of your labor without your consent you are that much a slave." - Me
ohhhhh please.....shiver me timbers...brrrrrr Translation: You have no intelligent reply. "To the degree that the government can take from you the produce of your labor without your consent you are that much a slave." - Me
Your posts elsewhere were intelligent and explanatory or constitutionally-based. Here you act like you think you are a FR mod or an El Pee Flying Monkey. Same species BTW.
Nope, despite my desire to remain polite and decorous I am not a pushover. What you don't like is that I won't roll over and play dead. Deal with it.
"To the degree that the government can take from you the produce of your labor without your consent you are that much a slave." - Me
No, your problems with analogies is because they do apply...and almost exacting in a scientific manner. The rules of Ponerology don't change, they're time tested and proven. The only rule that changes is Knowledge.
Offhanded remark??? Several items come to mind here OI... Offhanded? Anyone with interest or opinion may read your original statement for those four words that were inserted in the center of an otherwise inoffensive paragraph. Four words that are as vile as I have ever encountered in this or any other forum. The words explain themselves, four very simple, easily understood words of everyday English. "Not a bad idea", carries the weight of consideration and accepted opinion of the speaker, that he agrees with government having the right to hang any person that for any reason dislikes Jews. You gave no counter balancing desire for laws that would hang people for disliking any other ethnic group, not the slightest mention, only Jews. The major problem here on the forum is the fact that so few members have ever acquainted themselves with one of the very first laws passed by the Jew government after the Russian Revolution. Death by hanging for all anti-semites was passed nearly as the first order of business by the Soviets. Who were the "hangees" going to be and who would be the "hangers"?? The hangees were Russian Christians that dared speak against any Jew. The hangers were Jews, most of which were not even Russians. Was there any law passed calling for the hanging of any person espousing anti-goyism/Christian. None. My final word to you Sir, arrogance is a bitter pill to swallow, sometimes it is more manly to swallow, apologize, and have done with it.
Perhaps you care to repost from a few days ago what you said about...hanging all anti-semites was ..."not a bad idea". That vulgar refrain was overlooked by most of the posters on this thread. Very subtle. Nothing was taken out of context, those are your words and no epistles of explanation will suffice. These people need to read it for themselves. Kudos. You da man.
Anti-racism is code for white genocide
20 million dead Christians later.....well, they started looking at Europe and America to inflict their final solution. _________________________________________________________________________
#2. To: Diana (#1)
#3. To: Diana (#1)
#4. To: JCHarris, wbales, Diana (#2)
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#5. To: robin (#4)
#6. To: JCHarris (#5)
Ron Paul for President
#7. To: JCHarris, robin, All (#5)
I still smell the FEAR !! (-:
#8. To: Diana. everyone here (#0)
Chuck Colson said it best -
#9. To: lodwick (#8)
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#10. To: Diana (#0)
Everyone here, please heed these words, do not let yourselves get caught up in a frenzy, especially pertaining to this topic, do not take what all posters say at face value, as there are those out there who want to lay traps, and bring about the ruin of certain forums.
#11. To: who knows what evil (#9)
#12. To: lodwick (#11)
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#13. To: Diana, christine, Zipporah, robin, Jethro Tull (#0)
there are those out there who want to lay traps, and bring about the ruin of certain forums.
#14. To: Dakmar (#13)
#15. To: Dakmar (#13)
#16. To: christine (#15)
#17. To: JCHarris (#5)
Land of the Free and Home of the Brave OOZING FEAR.
#18. To: Dakmar (#17)
I fear nothing, what's your problem? :)
#19. To: Zipporah (#18)
#20. To: Dakmar (#19)
#21. To: Dakmar (#17)
I fear nothing,
#22. To: YertleTurtle (#21)
#23. To: Diana (#7)
we must all keep that in mind.
#24. To: JCHarris, Zipporah, *Music Club* (#23)
#25. To: Dakmar (#17)
I fear nothing, what's your problem?
#26. To: Diana, JCHarris, original_intent, lodwick (#0)
#27. To: farmfriend. anyone here (#26)
What is this thread about?
#28. To: lodwick (#27)
#29. To: Dakmar (#28)
I was trying to explain benefits of using domestic cats on a cleaning crew rather than importing panthers or something.
#30. To: Diana (#1)
"Some people may want to see this forum discredited, and post accordingly."
#31. To: Dakmar (#13)
Screw 'em. Besides, y'all know you have me as point guard/nosetackle.
#32. To: Original_Intent (#30)
That is how Liberty Forum has been repeatedly attacked, disrupted, and discredited - by FAKE anti-semites who are actually Zionazis in Drag. Some of the biggest so-called anti-semites on LF are, I am convinced, Jewish/Zionist disinformation posters who wish to reduce Liberty Forum's reach.
#33. To: Diana (#32)
I know there are a lot of people who hate this forum, and say all posters here are virulent antisemites
#34. To: Diana, christine, farmfriend, HOUNDDAWG, IndieTX, Zipporah, all (#32)
(Edited)
I can't stand people who pretend to be one thing when in fact they are another. I hate trickery and deception.
#35. To: Original_Intent (#34)
#36. To: Original_Intent, Zipporah, HOUNDDAWG, robin, Jethro Tull (#30)
One of the biggest so-called anti-semites on LF "The_Skunk" was shown to be using images hosted on the personal website of a female Jewish Psychology Professor.
#37. To: Original_Intent, aristeides (#30)
Absolutely valid point. That is how Liberty Forum has been repeatedly attacked, disrupted, and discredited - by FAKE anti-semites who are actually Zionazis in Drag. Some of the biggest so-called anti-semites on LF are, I am convinced, Jewish/Zionist disinformation posters who wish to reduce Liberty Forum's reach.
Ron Paul for President
#38. To: Original_Intent, who knows what evil (#30)
Ron Paul for President
#39. To: Original_Intent, robin (#30)
That is how Liberty Forum has been repeatedly attacked, disrupted, and discredited
#40. To: Original_Intent, christine, robin, All (#34)
To observe and note criminal actions, and to publicly deplore them, is the action of a rational mind observing reality and excercising rational ethical sensibilities. It is up to the intelligent and sophisticated reader to draw conclusions for themselves.
#41. To: Diana (#40)
It's too bad there's not a way to prevent such tricksters and frauds from showing up here in the first place.
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#42. To: Original_Intent (#34)
As has been noted, and sourced elsewhere, Zionism has to no small degree attempted to create anti-semitism in order to drive Jews to move to their shitty little country. This has been documented by Jews of good heart and moral sensibility - Naem Giladi, Jack Bernstein (who was likely assassinated by Mossad), Alfred Lillienthal, Norman Finklestein, Lenni Brenner, and others
Ron Paul for President
#43. To: christine (#35)
#44. To: farmfriend (#39)
That is how Liberty Forum has been repeatedly attacked, disrupted, and discredited
#45. To: Diana, christine, farmfriend, HOUNDDAWG, IndieTX, Zipporah, all (#40)
(Edited)
Great post.
"I've noticed a trend these past few years where too many people are bashing all Jews, not just the radicals and rabid zionists. They are lumping in everyone who may be Jewish, no matter what their beliefs, and they miss the fact that there are many Jews who feel exactly the same way we do, who are against the war, who are against the policies of Israel and so on."
"In Israel there are so many clashes between Jews with widely varying beliefs who hate each other, we don't hear much about that over here, it's just too easy to lump them all together and say they are all evil, including the little old Jewish ladies who feed birds in the park. Those who hate them all are mindless anger-filled individuals who just need some group to focus their instense rage on."
" What really bugs me is when the radical Jew posers/trickster come onto forums and target such people using devious psychological methods, manipulating them by inciting more anger and whipping them into a frenzy. That is so dishonest and it further poisons the souls of the people they are targeting."
"Then those trouble-makers go elsewhere and bash the forum they have wrecked havoc upon, saying shit like see what a bunch of low-life idiots the people at that forum are? Some people already say that about this one, and there have already been several attempts in the past by hit and run posters to incite the more angry ones among us, and to piss off the more intelligent ones into leaving, obviously targeting them, just coming out of nowhere to bully them and insult them until they leave altogether."
" There was one guy who was very successful at that, he went after the brightest posters here, just repeatedly insulted them until most left, though a few have returned. It's too bad there's not a way to prevent such tricksters and frauds from showing up here in the first place."
#46. To: robin, christine, Zipporah, farmfriend, Diana, all (#42)
interesting history
#47. To: Diana (#0)
#48. To: Original_Intent (#44)
it was more a symptom of the pre-existing problem rather than the cause.
#49. To: Original_Intent (#46)
#50. To: Original_Intent (#46)
Ron Paul for President
#51. To: Diana (#49)
Thanks for those links, and for pointing out also that there are some Jews who are not evil and should not be condemned merely for being Jewish.
Not all are like Abe Foxman or Alan Dershowitz, though me having pointied that out appears to have angered some.
#52. To: robin (#50)
#53. To: Original_Intent (#30)
(Edited)
One of the biggest so-called anti-semites on LF "The_Skunk" was shown to be using images hosted on the personal website of a female Jewish Psychology Professor.
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#54. To: Diana (#0)
#55. To: Eoghan (#53)
#56. To: robin, christine, Zipporah, farmfriend, Diana, All (#46)
#57. To: Original_Intent, HOUNDDAWG (#55)
(Edited)
As well it is likely that "Skunk" is more than one person inhabiting the same persona - much like "Daisy".
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#58. To: Original_Intent (#56)
#59. To: christine, Original Intent, Eoghan (#58)
The U.S. government allows a Jew to be a citizen of both U.S. and Israel.
Ron Paul for President
#60. To: christine (#58)
U.S. THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THE POWER THE ZIONIST JEWS HAVE OVER THE U.S. GOVERNMENT.
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#61. To: christine (#58)
(Edited)
THIS IS A GOOD EXAMPLE OF THE POWER THE ZIONIST JEWS HAVE OVER THE U.S. GOVERNMENT.
#62. To: Original_Intent (#56)
The Life of an American Jew in Racist Marxist Israel
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#63. To: Original_Intent (#61)
So, he was murdered to shut him up.
#64. To: Original_Intent (#51)
#65. To: Original_Intent (#61)
It was that recognition and stating it that might have been what got Jack whacked.
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#66. To: Mekons4, Diana, christine (#47)
#67. To: Diana (#49)
I tell you I would not want to be Jewish in this day and age.
#68. To: JCHarris (#64)
(Edited)
Just a sweet little old group of God-loving people , sharingtheir genius, generous in fact and spirit and loyal to the community at large in which they happily live.
#69. To: JCHarris (#67)
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#70. To: Original_Intent (#68)
#71. To: Original_Intent (#68)
One could make the same kinds of arguments against any tight knit ethnic group - Italians, Gypsys, Irish Travelers, Chinese (trying getting anywhere in Chinatown in San Francisco if you are not Chinese - fugiddaboutit), etc., ... However, Jews have been very successful and the ethics of some to others outside of their group can be ummmm - questionable.
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#72. To: JCHarris (#70)
You should see it from the inside....your schema would change dramatically.
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#73. To: Eoghan (#72)
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#74. To: Eoghan (#72)
Yep, I've seen it...my senior management should be up on charges for falsifying data...instead, they got an advance, yet totally incompetent in their job descriptions. Us and Them.
#75. To: Eoghan (#65)
Include Jack Kennedy...and the Dimona Project. His protests got him whacked...and many more.
#76. To: Original_Intent (#75)
"the Company"
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#77. To: robin (#71)
Able to blend in but ethnocentric. Nepotism is rampant. A mafia mentality. I just don't define success that way, but the world does. Making money is one thing, running our foreign policy is another.
#78. To: Original_Intent (#77)
(Edited)
#79. To: Original_Intent, Diana (#45)
#80. To: who knows what evil (#9)
Chuck Colson said that?
#81. To: lodwick (#11)
Chuck's seen the light.
#82. To: zoom zoom zoom (#81)
#83. To: lodwick (#82)
(Edited)
#84. To: lodwick (#82)
#85. To: zoom zoom zoom (#81)
#86. To: Zipporah (#85)
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#87. To: zoom zoom zoom (#81)
#88. To: who knows what evil (#86)
#89. To: christine (#87)
#90. To: Original_Intent (#77)
That is why I take time to try to show what is behind the curtain as I understand it (and the more I learn the more I want it exposed).
#91. To: lodwick (#82)
#92. To: christine (#87)
hmmmm....i smell corn.
#93. To: zoom zoom zoom (#80)
Chuck Colson said that?
#94. To: zoom zoom zoom (#92)
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Formerly tuna piano but not tune your balls
Formerly llort daerter balls
Formerly cone of balls
Presently can of balls
#95. To: zoom zoom zoom (#91)
#96. To: robnoel (#93)
#97. To: can of balls (#94)
#98. To: lodwick (#95)
#99. To: robnoel. everyone (#93)
From Wiki -
#100. To: zoom zoom zoom (#96)
#101. To: zoom zoom zoom (#97)
Formerly Fun and Happy Balls.
Formerly balls alert.
Formerly tinfoil wonderballs.
Formerly trilateralballs
Formerly statist miniballs
Formerly balls beat
Formerly Yomin Postelballs
Formerly ballwitch muncher
Formerly tuna piano but not tune your balls
Formerly llort daerter balls
Formerly cone of balls
Presently can of balls
#102. To: lodwick (#99)
#103. To: robnoel, Lodwick esq. (#102)
Chuck Colson
#104. To: noone222 (#103)
Charles Wendell "Chuck" Colson (born October 16, 1931) was the chief counsel for President Richard Nixon from 1969 to 1973 and was one of the Watergate Seven, jailed for Watergate-related charges.
#105. To: robnoel (#102)
#106. To: lodwick (#104)
#107. To: noone222 (#106)
#108. To: lodwick (#107)
#109. To: noone222 (#103)
(Edited)
Chuck Colson's name sounds a lot like one of your recent guests
#110. To: robnoel (#109)
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#111. To: Original_Intent (#55)
I firmly believe Skunk to be a "False Flag" Poster. I have never sorted out his/her/their full game but I know enough to know that I trust nothing coming from "The_Skunk".
#112. To: noone222 (#110)
Is it 150 degrees outside today (yet) Robbie ???
#113. To: robnoel (#112)
#114. To: robnoel (#109)
Robby Noel:Guest: Charles Carlson Robby talked with Charles Carlson and discussed how Zoinism is taking over the Christian Churches and Government in America.
#115. To: Cynicom, all (#90)
OI...
#116. To: lodwick (#114)
there can't be two different Charles Colsons out there preaching.Can there?
#117. To: robnoel (#116)
#118. To: lodwick (#114)
#119. To: lodwick (#117)
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#120. To: Original_Intent (#115)
If you wish to hold a bad choice of words as the final word that is your choice
#121. To: lodwick (#117)
Now, I can get on with the day.
#122. To: lodwick (#107)
I don't think that there are many, if any, RM's here, and looking at Colson's websites, I can't find out (yet) what is his take.
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#123. To: who knows what evil (#122)
#124. To: JCHarris (#123)
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#125. To: who knows what evil (#124)
#126. To: Original_Intent, Cynicom (#115)
I simply and clearly oppose irrational hatreds of all kinds.
#127. To: who knows what evil. everyone here (#124)
We Hold These Truths - site
#128. To: lodwick (#127)
#129. To: zoom zoom zoom (#128)
#130. To: zoom zoom zoom (#128)
#131. To: lodwick (#127)
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#132. To: christine (#130)
#133. To: who knows what evil, christine, FM, all, Eoghan (#131)
#134. To: lodwick (#133)
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#135. To: christine, zipporah (#130)
ok, troll. byebye. btw, corn, i thought you said you wouldn't try to come back?
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#136. To: who knows what evil (#134)
Link or post #? I'm too self-absorbed to go look for it...
#137. To: who knows what evil (#135)
Whacked before he answered Zip's Mazda question...
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#138. To: Phant2000 (#126)
I simply can't let this go by. Having had a similar discussion with you some weeks ago, it is obvious that your opposition to "irrational hatred..." of Christian anti-semites would result, at the least, "in outlawing of anti- semitism".
OI, where in your "reading of bits and pieces of history" have you received confirmation that outlawing a person's emotional response to others could be successfully curtailed by legislation???
#139. To: Cynicom, Diana, christine, all (#120)
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OI...
#140. To: Original_Intent (#139)
That you refuse to let it go leads me to conclude that you have a hidden agenda which you are not stating in your attacks.
#141. To: Original_Intent (#138)
(Edited)
When one generalizes and attempts to imply that all members of a group share a behavior exhibited by SOME members of a group you commit a classic logical fallacy.
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#142. To: farmfriend (#140)
#143. To: Original_Intent (#142)
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#144. To: Eoghan (#141)
Pardon me OI, but your are demonstrating a fallacy here...because the Jewish group is like no other group in the timeline of human events. The vast majority are agnostic, the majority are politically Socialist, yet the huge majority identify themselve with the "Great State of Israel, the Only Democracy in the Middle East."
#145. To: Eoghan, Originia-Intent (#141)
Why is the simple fact of pointing this out wrong or in error? This is a unique group that bears scrutiny...There is no Jewish Silent Majority...the few that do speak out in truth are castigated and lives are virtually ruined. Do you condone this? Lynching "anti-Semites" will solve the problem? Jews, at tops, 3% of the populous...yet hold 99% of congressional puppet strings...this is anti-Semitic also? Well forget about it...
#146. To: JCHarris (#145)
(Edited)
" OI is strangely apologetic and incorrect in his essay..."
#147. To: Original_Intent (#144)
(Edited)
JHowever, there are cracks in the facade and although strong arm tactics and peer pressure still work to keep many "in line" there are breakaways and the monolith is cracking. We live in a turbulent time and this is only one issue, an important one, among many.
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#148. To: Original_Intent (#146)
#149. To: Eoghan (#147)
#150. To: JCHarris (#148)
I am so intimidated by your strong arm tactics...
#151. To: Original_Intent (#150)
#152. To: JCHarris (#151)
(Edited)
#153. To: Original_Intent (#149)
(Edited)
The problem with analogies is that they are never exact
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#154. To: Original_Intent, Phant, christine, all (#139)
No, you insult my intelligence and that of other posters. I have made clear my disavowal of that offhanded comment.
#155. To: Cynicom (#90)
OI...
#156. To: Cynicom (#154)
The hangees were Russian Christians that dared speak against any Jew. The hangers were Jews, most of which were not even Russians. Was there any law passed calling for the hanging of any person espousing anti-goyism/Christian.
"This man is Jesus,” shouted one man, spilling his Guinness as Barack Obama began his inaugural address. “When will he come to Kenya to save us?”
-Schweizerische Schuetzenzeitung (Swiss Shooting Federation) April, 1941
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