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Title: Will science render men unnecessary?
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URL Source: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17937813/
Published: Jun 27, 2007
Author: Brian Alexander
Post Date: 2007-06-27 17:12:27 by farmfriend
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Keywords: men, sex, cloning
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The possibility seems real but don't drop your guy just yet By Brian Alexander I normally don’t spend a great deal of time thinking about my sperm. But recently a team of scientists announced they had made artificial sperm from human bone marrow, and media reports abounded with the dire news that my goodfellas (and by extension, me) had been rendered unnecessary. If a woman chose to do so, speculated tabloid journalists, she could make sperm from her own bone marrow, fertilize another woman’s egg — and voila! “Men could be completely sidelined,” according to Britain’s Daily Mail. “Women to Self Create,” blared the headline in Australia’s Daily Telegraph. “Men beware!” began a story on one U.S. news Web site. There are at least half a dozen reasons why such speculation is silly, some scientific and some practical. For example, as long as sex feels good and remains no more expensive than dinner and a bottle of wine, most people will use natural-grown sperm. Still, suggests Gregory Stock, director of the program on medicine, society and technology at the UCLA School of Medicine and the CEO of a biotech company called Signum Biosciences, it is very interesting that there were any stories at all. Experiments have created eggs and sperm, so-called artificial gametes, from embryonic stem cells and other cell types for years now with limited success, so the bone marrow work does not represent a giant leap. And the stories are reminiscent of some that were printed 10 years ago when the birth of Dolly the sheep, the first mammal cloned from an adult cell, was announced. We men were declared washed up then, too. Stock, author of the book “Redesigning Humans,” believes there were so many stories recently because such experiments are as much symbol as science. “The importance is just the idea of two women having a child, one creating sperm and other having an oocyte [egg]. Well, what does that say about marriage laws? About whether men are needed? There are all sorts of ways that play into our psyche, who and what we are, what relationships are all about, the limits of the technological vision of ourselves.” I just want to know why you women are in such a rush to get rid of us. Sci-fi and fantasy literature are full of all-female societies like Wonder Woman’s home island. New York Times columnist Maureen Dowd penned a friendly little book in 2005 called “Are Men Necessary?” Are you trying to give us a complex or something? A world without our sperm So permit me to run with the tabloid visionaries and see where men wind up in a world that does not need our sperm because you ladies are out there making them on your own. Hmmm. In the near term, men may not be much different than the present. “The concept here that resonates with people is the idea of men not being necessary in some way,” Stock suggests. “But men are not really necessary at this point either.” Well, strictly in terms of keeping the human species alive, you women need some of us. You just don’t need all that many of us (though we would prefer to keep that under our hats, if we wore hats). We make a glut of sperm, millions of them, so one man can spread a lot of seed. Sperm banking has long been an important part of in vitro fertilization, just as bull semen is integral to dairy production. Frankly, you only need a small tribe of us guys equipped with porn magazines and plastic cups. You could feed us, groom us and give us a little exercise — pretty much like you do now. Since sperm has already been made from embryonic stem cells, “it is easy to see how stem cells could go from just being used for research purposes to being used to have kids,” suggests David Magnus, director of Stanford University’s Center for Biomedical Ethics. “Of course you have the dilemma of needing human experiments but looking at the history [of IVF], that hasn’t stopped people and so far it has worked out pretty well.” So let’s assume stem cells are used to treat couples lacking sperm, and then to provide lesbian couples with sperm that are genetically theirs, and then a few heterosexual women say, “Who needs men?”
Will science render men unnecessary?
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#1. To: farmfriend (#0)
i laughed when i read the title. ahem...like men's only value is their sperm? :P
My sister-in-law already has.
PMS + Big Red Button = trouble I love plots in all those sci-fi all female societies stories: Woman - "You see, we have eliminated war and hunger and created the perfect world!" Last Man on earth- "Really? How?" Woman - "Well, we started off by killing 2.5 Billion men and any "gender traitor" females that sided with them." Last Man on earth - "...I'll just be heading back into my bunker now."
"The more I see of life, the less I fear death" - Me.
What bullsh*t...who's going to kill the spiders? Open the jars? Give me a frickin' break...
LOL! I live in a house full of men and that would be me!
ALL generalizations have exceptions... :-)
A world without men? This is not practical; why, what would we do with all the urinals the human race has invested in?
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Oooo I like being an axception! They could be used by all those women who stand up for equal rights. Think, no more lines at the women's restrooms.
#2. To: farmfriend (#0)
Will science render men unnecessary?
#3. To: farmfriend (#0)
I just want to know why you women are in such a rush to get rid of us. Sci-fi and fantasy literature are full of all-female societies like Wonder Woman’s home island.
#4. To: farmfriend (#0)
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Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#5. To: who knows what evil (#4)
who's going to kill the spiders? Open the jars?
#6. To: farmfriend (#5)
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#7. To: farmfriend (#5)
#8. To: who knows what evil (#6)
ALL generalizations have exceptions...
#9. To: Ferret Mike (#7)
This is not practical; why, what would we do with all the urinals the human race has invested in?
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