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Title: The Senate's last Cloture vote - simple majority will pass the bill on Friday if Cloture passes today
Source: C-Span2
URL Source: [None]
Published: Jun 28, 2007
Author: N/A
Post Date: 2007-06-28 09:41:35 by a vast rightwing conspirator
Keywords: None
Views: 927
Comments: 52

Teddy K is now talking about the 'undocumented' and their great usefulness.

He sounds calm, rested and 'reasonable' while urging for a 'yes'.

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#13. To: christine (#9)

Harry Reid is just plain pathetic.

What a waste and disappointment to those that voted for a democrat congress.

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2007-06-28   10:59:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Brian S (#13)

Reed says: if you vote for cloture you vote for a more perfect union.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-06-28   11:05:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, *Bilderberg and NWO Watch*, *The Border*, *North American Union* (#0)

http://www.numbersusa.com/index


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robin  posted on  2007-06-28   11:07:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: robin (#15)

Amendment-laden immigration bill in peril

WASHINGTON, June 28 (UPI) -- The fate of the fractious immigration reform bill in the U.S. Senate was shakier Thursday after the chamber voted down amendments and lost supporters.

The bill, which U.S. President George Bush is pushing to pass, has 26 amendments from Democrats seeking to soften some restrictions and Republicans wanting to stiffen them.

Each of the amendments has supporters, most of whom have said their overall votes will be tied to the amendments' passage, and Wednesday saw many fence-sitters fall away as their projects were voted down, The Washington Post reported.

One major amendment rejected was a Republican proposal to require adult illegal immigrants to return to their countries temporarily to qualify for a special new visa, the Post said.

Newcomer Sen. Claire McCaskill, D-Mo., told The New York Times the situation was perplexing.

"I feel like Goldilocks," McCaskill said. "It is either too hot or too cold. It is certainly not just right."

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-06-28   11:08:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: all (#16)

First count:

yes - 19 no - 21

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2007-06-28   11:11:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Brian S (#17)

And Webb switched to 'nay'. He disappointed me last time because he voted 'yeah'. I think it's going down.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-06-28   11:12:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Brian S (#17)

I don't suppose there's a song about 19 bullets...


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robin  posted on  2007-06-28   11:13:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#18)

And Webb switched to 'nay'.

Oh good, I can like him again.


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robin  posted on  2007-06-28   11:13:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: robin (#19) (Edited)

Current tally (updated as they are calling the votes: 24 yeahs, 30 nays

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a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-06-28   11:14:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#21)

31 - no 25 - yes

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2007-06-28   11:16:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#21)

What does a tie mean? Cheney steps in his non-executive capacity?


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robin  posted on  2007-06-28   11:16:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: Brian S (#22)

31 - no 25 - yes

This is taking too long.


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robin  posted on  2007-06-28   11:17:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: robin (#23)

Cheney can not vote on this one.

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a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-06-28   11:18:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: All (#25) (Edited)

At least 38 nays so far.

38 nay, 30 yeahs

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a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-06-28   11:18:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: robin (#24)

44 - no

Unless someone changes their no vote, the immigration bill is DEAD!!!

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2007-06-28   11:20:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: All (#27)

50 NO!

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Brian S  posted on  2007-06-28   11:22:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Brian S (#27)

dead is the important word for today


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robin  posted on  2007-06-28   11:22:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: Brian S (#27) (Edited)

I think I am getting a big delay on the C-Span feed.

I got to 50 nays now. It would be so much fun to listen to the post-mortem speeches and to the inevitable Bush commentary about, maybe, the senators refusing to do the work that the American people wants them to do.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-06-28   11:22:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: Brian S (#28)

They need 60 ayes, so this is dead.


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robin  posted on  2007-06-28   11:22:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#30)

52 - nay

I wish the Senate keep a running tally like the House does.

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2007-06-28   11:24:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: robin (#31)

Wow... a majority of nays. The M-Fers must have gotten really scared.

This explains the acrimony in Specter's talk and the ridiculous, possibly drugs-induced Reed speech about his children as possible Israeli citizens/.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-06-28   11:25:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: robin (#31)

Cable news is announcing the immigration bill is finished.

Good job all!!!

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2007-06-28   11:26:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: All (#34)

I believe I just heard Voinovich vote no... Didn't he have a dust-up with Hannity yesterday supporting the bill?

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2007-06-28   11:27:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: All (#35)

Final Vote:

46 - yes

53 - no

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2007-06-28   11:28:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, Brian S (#33)

Wow... a majority of nays. The M-Fers must have gotten really scared.

I wonder if when they saw the way the vote was going more decided to vote No.

53 No

46 Yes


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robin  posted on  2007-06-28   11:28:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: Brian S (#35)

Vinovich for 'surrender' in Iraq yesterday, against amnesty today... what's happening? Did he detect some change in political winds?

53 nays, 46 yeahs - the official tally.

Reed is now mourning.

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-06-28   11:29:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: robin (#37)

I wonder if when they saw the way the vote was going more decided to vote No.

No doubt.

Why go on record as supporting a lost cause if the cause was lost?

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-06-28   11:30:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#39)

and piss off your constituents at the same time


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robin  posted on  2007-06-28   11:31:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: All (#40)

Byrd is talking about how old he's getting. Good grief.


Ron Paul for President

robin  posted on  2007-06-28   11:33:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: robin (#40) (Edited)

Wow... after Reed discloses his semi-Jewishness, Byrd takes the floor to announce his imminent death.

Did they have a party or an some orgy last night?

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-06-28   11:34:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: All (#41)

I think he has 3 words on every piece of paper in front of him. He tosses one aside every 5 seconds.


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robin  posted on  2007-06-28   11:34:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: robin (#40)

I was pleased and surprised that at least one of my Senators, Stabenow (D) voted no on both cloture votes and she isn't even up for re-election.

The other bastard Levin, voted yes both times. He is up for re-election.

Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!

Brian S  posted on  2007-06-28   11:34:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#42)

Maybe he's pleading with NWO not to finish him off just yet. The world is full of pretty young people, he just said.

(help)


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robin  posted on  2007-06-28   11:35:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Brian S (#44)

The other bastard Levin, voted yes both times. He is up for re-election.

What a dummy!


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robin  posted on  2007-06-28   11:36:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: All (#46)

Now he's repeating himself. worth the wait? Grandma Moses?

Talk about denial.

He's really losing it!


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robin  posted on  2007-06-28   11:39:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: robin (#47)

Well... he did vote 'nay' on both cloture votes so there is some good, common sense in him.

He does seem to have problems articulating words clearly. Just an old man... what can you do?

Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'

a vast rightwing conspirator  posted on  2007-06-28   11:43:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: robin (#41)

Byrd is talking about how old he's getting. Good grief.

...like the rest of us don't know that already? I enjoy visiting West Virigina on occasion, but having to endure seeing Byrd's name on everything will quickly drive you insane.

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-06-28   11:44:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#16)

One major amendment rejected was a Republican proposal to require adult illegal immigrants to return to their countries temporarily to qualify for a special new visa, the Post said.

I thought that was already part of the bill! Even if they put it in there I can't see illegals going home to become legal.


farmfriend  posted on  2007-06-28   12:34:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#48)

Well... he did vote 'nay' on both cloture votes so there is some good, common sense in him.

very true, but still


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robin  posted on  2007-06-28   12:40:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: a vast rightwing conspirator, All (#38)

53 nays, 46 yeahs - the official tally.

Here comes the Fairness Doctrine. The next they bring this monster up, talk radio won't be a factor.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-06-28   12:51:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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