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Title: President Bush's Immigration Bill Suffers Crushing Defeat In Senate
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CNN
URL Source: http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/06 ... mmigration.congress/index.html
Published: Jun 28, 2007
Author: CNN
Post Date: 2007-06-28 11:40:22 by Brian S
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Comments: 39
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush's immigration bill suffered a crushing defeat Thursday in the Senate, when members voted against advancing the controversial legislation. A final tally for the vote has not yet been announced. The bill would provides a path to citizenship for some of the 12 million illegal immigrants in the U.S. and toughens border security. If the bill fails, supporters and opponents of the controversial legislation claim there is no way to bring it back before this Congress ends. Senators voting against cutting off debate and referring the bill for a final vote. The cloture vote required a three-fifths majority, or 60 votes. Senators cast ballots a day after supporters beat back a number of potentially fatal amendments. Proponents won a major victory with defeat of an amendment removing the bill's most controversial feature -- a path to legalization and eventual citizenship for illegal immigrants already in the country, which critics charge amounts to amnesty. (Watch challenges rise and fall ) "I think most people will recognize that citizenship is the most precious gift America can provide," said Sen. Kit Bond, R-Missouri, the sponsor of the amendment. "There are many of us who believe it should not serve as a reward to those who broke the law." Senators voted 56-41 to table his amendment, effectively killing it. However, in a sharp illustration of the political heartburn the "amnesty" debate is causing Republicans, Bond's proposal was supported by 33 of the Senate's 49 GOP members, along with eight Democrats. Also defeated Wednesday was an amendment by Sen. Kay Bailey Hutchison, R-Texas, that would have required adult illegal immigrants to return to their home country within two years in order to apply for a new type of visa that will allow them to stay in the United States indefinitely. Hutchison said the change would "send the major message ... that you cannot come to our country and stay illegally and eventually get regularized without ever having to apply -- according to the law -- from your home country." But opponents of the amendment said the so-called "touchback" requirement would render the program largely useless. "What immigrant is going to show up and register for a program if he has to take his chances on leaving the country and coming back in before he gets some kind of immigration status?" said Sen. Dianne Feinstein, D-California. "What immigrant is going to report to deport?" In the end, the Hutchison amendment was tabled on a 53-45 vote. Senators also turned back two Democratic amendments, from Sens. Chris Dodd of Connecticut and Robert Menendez of New Jersey, that would have made it easier for immigrants to bring family members from their home countries to the United States. Liberal critics of the immigration bill have complained about a new points-based system that would sharply reduce the role family ties now play in decisions about who can come into the country. By a 79-18 vote, senators shot down an amendment by Sen. Jim Webb, D-Virginia, that would have limited the legalization process to illegal immigrants who have been in the country at least four years, rather than covering all of them in the country at the end of 2006. Wednesday's wrangling on the Senate floor was conducted under seldom-used rules designed to keep opponents of the immigration reform bill from using the legislative process to block it. All of the changes were being handled as one overall amendment, with separate votes on each proposal, allowing leaders to keep critics of the bill from offering their own amendments from the floor. Republican opponents have strongly objected to the procedure, even though it was agreed to by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Kentucky. "[We're] frustrated about our ability to exercise our rights as duly elected officials," said Sen. David Vitter, R-Louisiana.
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#1. To: Brian S (#0)
Sweet.
So it will continue to be "business as usual." Build a wall, dammit.
Haha. Great article headline. "Suffers Crushing Defeat"
Exactly. They will CONTINUE to flood over the border on a daily basis. On a side note...did anyone catch it when Reid said that the 'threatening' e-mails were being turned over to the Capitol Police? OOOOOoooooo!
Did anyone introduce an amendment or a bill that would stop granting US citizenship to the children of non-US residents or citizens born on US soil?
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
All I know is what is posted here. The most up-to-speed, up-to-the-minute, site on the web.
The US has two years to demonstrate that they can secure the borders and hold employers accountable for hiring illegals using existing law. If they did that and did it well, more people might be willing to consider 'worker programs' for the illegals already here. Fat chance in that happening however they do have an opportunity here.
Never swear "allegiance" to anything other than the 'right to change your mind'!
"See you at the signing." - The Chimpster
Gloria est pro petroleo mori.
Would you be surprised if Bush announced that he was going to sign the bill into law anyway?
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
This is the best news I have heard in a very long time to come out of Washington. But the failure to build a wall when they had 60 years to do it tells you that they are traitors and really do want to destroy America.
The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie
Enforcing the existing laws, of course, is out of the question. And that tidbit in the Constitution about the federal government protecting the various states from invasion--that's apparently missing from copies of the Constitution around Washington, DC. The ZOG realizes this issue has pissed off the rubes and sheeple and has accordingly ordered its media dogs (Rush, Sean, Bill O, et. al) to sound off. That the ZOG was behind our insane immigration policy to begin with and the on- going non-enforcement of existing laws shall be conveniently ignored. The out going Bush baby will serve another useful purpose: he'll get the blame for the immigration fiasco by the ZOG appointed Knight to the Rescue who will subsequent to massive campaign blustering and outright BS merely continue the same policies and approach. But the rubes and sheeple will be happy, they think. Meanwhile, the ZOG's pre-emptive and perpetual middle east war program for America and Americans will continue unabated.
Ron Paul. President. Spread the Word.
"If you vote in favor of this bill, I will work to defeat you in the next election" is evidently now a violent threat. Bah. Turn 'em all out. Create the Senate Lettuce Picking Team.
America is not at war. The military is at war. America is at the mall and the Congress is out to lunch.
Oh, yeah. Terrorism per se.
Ron Paul. President. Spread the Word.
I wouldn't be surprised if Cheney announced that he was going to sign the bill into law anyway. Nothing these guys do shocks me the least bit anymore.
Gloria est pro petroleo mori.
As Alex Jones was just saying, "If there was anywhere to move, I'd move." No wall, no enforcement, not much hope that I can see.
Are you listening dumbasss W. Enforce the present laws on immigration now. Round up the illegals and the businesses that hire them and put them in jail. Both are lawbreakers. Hopefully you will be joining them in jail someday soon. Also, mr. cheney. Halileuah!!!!!!!
I've got a friend that is trying to get me to consider Kampala or Calcutta...
That's not constitutional anyway but yes they really need to address that issue even more than the fence I think.
So the status quo prevails. Don't see how that's gonna perturb Dubya.
Gee-Guess W won't have a legacy afterall. Long time, no see, LAC...(Monty)
Oh, yeah. Terrorism per se. Hey, I'm a terrorist, many times over. Maybe all the letters, faxes & emails had an impact, after all!
Doubtful. More likely Hal Turner posting the home addresses & phone numbers of the traitors who voted for the bill had the biggest impact. Scared the hell out of 'em. All of the sudden they became mere mortals when faced with the prospect of lynch mobs.
that puts a huge smile on my face.
oooooooo! I am scared!!! I wonder what they'll do with a friend of a friend's phone call to John "Jellyfish" Kerry? BWAHAHAHAHA!!
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition Hal is an American Hero. And the threat of lynch mobs has not, nor will not end. It is a stupid politicowhore who let's down their guard and thinks they can keep screwing us up the a**.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition Which is why THELYNCHMOB option is NOT off the table just because of this one vote. Anyone who relaxes now is a fool. Wbales post above sums it up nicely.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition Power to the PEOPLE!
U.S. Senate Roll Call Votes 110th Congress - 1st Session as compiled through Senate LIS by the Senate Bill Clerk under the direction of the Secretary of the Senate Vote Summary Question: On the Cloture Motion (Motion to Invoke Cloture on S.1639 ) YEAs ---46 Akaka (D-HI) Bennett (R-UT) Biden (D-DE) Boxer (D-CA) Cantwell (D-WA) Cardin (D-MD) Carper (D-DE) Casey (D-PA) Clinton (D-NY) Conrad (D-ND) Craig (R-ID) Dodd (D-CT) Durbin (D-IL) Feingold (D-WI) Feinstein (D-CA) Graham (R-SC) Gregg (R-NH) Hagel (R-NE) Inouye (D-HI) Kennedy (D-MA) Kerry (D-MA) Klobuchar (D-MN) Kohl (D-WI) Kyl (R-AZ) Lautenberg (D-NJ) Leahy (D-VT) Levin (D-MI) Lieberman (ID-CT) Lincoln (D-AR) Lott (R-MS) Lugar (R-IN) Martinez (R-FL) McCain (R-AZ) Menendez (D-NJ) Mikulski (D-MD) Murray (D-WA) Nelson (D-FL) Obama (D-IL) Reed (D-RI) Reid (D-NV) Salazar (D-CO) Schumer (D-NY) Snowe (R-ME) Specter (R-PA) Whitehouse (D-RI) Wyden (D-OR) NAYs ---53 Alexander (R-TN) Allard (R-CO) Barrasso (R-WY) Baucus (D-MT) Bayh (D-IN) Bingaman (D-NM) Bond (R-MO) Brown (D-OH) Brownback (R-KS) Bunning (R-KY) Burr (R-NC) Byrd (D-WV) Chambliss (R-GA) Coburn (R-OK) Cochran (R-MS) Coleman (R-MN) Collins (R-ME) Corker (R-TN) Cornyn (R-TX) Crapo (R-ID) DeMint (R-SC) Dole (R-NC) Domenici (R-NM) Dorgan (D-ND) Ensign (R-NV) Enzi (R-WY) Grassley (R-IA) Harkin (D-IA) Hatch (R-UT) Hutchison (R-TX) Inhofe (R-OK) Isakson (R-GA) Landrieu (D-LA) McCaskill (D-MO) McConnell (R-KY) Murkowski (R-AK) Nelson (D-NE) Pryor (D-AR) Roberts (R-KS) Rockefeller (D-WV) Sanders (I-VT) Sessions (R-AL) Shelby (R-AL) Smith (R-OR) Stabenow (D-MI) Stevens (R-AK) Sununu (R-NH) Tester (D-MT) Thune (R-SD) Vitter (R-LA) Voinovich (R-OH) Warner (R-VA) Webb (D-VA) Not Voting - 1 Johnson (D-SD)
Gloria est pro petroleo mori.
"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."
46 brave traitors evidently didn't get the hint.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition Long time, no see, LAC...(Monty) Monty, You made my day, month, and year. So good to hear from you. Wish I could run into Brian, the poster and great fisherman who went by the name of gecko over when we were stupid enough to believe in jim robbersome on freak republic. We did wise up however. My how things have changed. Our country is on the verge of extintion with the traitoristic bolshevicks running it from Washington. It appears we are given this one last chance to save it. Hope and pray that I am right. LAC
The illegal immigration problem could be easily solved if the fines for corporations who knowingly hired illegals were prohibitively high. Of course, this will never happen. Even the GOP congressmen and senators who reluctantly make noises about "enforcing our borders" won't touch the issue of fining corpocrats for hiring illegals...need those campaign contributions you know. Whatever happens, it's great to see McCain-Kennedy shot down. I wouldn't call it Bush's bill though, because the version Shrub wanted had even more blatant version of amnesty than in this bill, without even a fig leaf about having to apply for citizenship.
Here are the representatives who cast votes against the American middle class today: Democrats: Daniel Akaka, Joseph Biden, Barbara Boxer, Maria Cantwell, Ben Cardin, Thomas Carper, Bob Casey, Hillary Clinton, Kent Conrad, Christopher Dodd, Dick Durbin, Russell Feingold, Dianne Feinstein, Daniel Inouye, Edward Kennedy, John Kerry, Amy Klobuchar, Herb Kohl, Frank Lautenberg, Patrick Leahy, Carl Levin, Blanche Lincoln, Robert Menéndez, Barbara Mikulski, Patty Murray, Bill Nelson, Barack Obama, Jack Reed, Harry Reid, Kenneth Salazar, Chuck Schumer, Sheldon Whitehouse, Ron Wyden Independent: Joseph Lieberman Republicans: Robert Bennett, Larry Craig, Lindsey Graham, Judd Gregg, Chuck Hagel, Jon Kyl, Trent Lott, Richard Lugar, Mel Martinez, John McCain, Olympia Snowe, Arlen Specter Never Forget!
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Yeah, and we thought clinton was bad. Each President we've had has gotten worse. I can hardly wait for the next one.
Did anyone introduce an amendment or a bill that would stop granting US citizenship to the children of non-US residents or citizens born on US soil? That's not constitutional anyway but yes they really need to address that issue even more than the fence I think. The Congress can pass a law to cancel any Supreme Court interpretation that it wants to overturn. Anchor babies for illegals are made possible by a left handed interpretation of the 14th Amendment. Repeal that ex post facto and 40,000,000 Hispanics would no longer be citizens of Norte America.
The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie
Our hospitals by law cannot turn them away, but I don't see why they are not returned to their homeland after the birth. The mothers are illegals. Enforce the law!
This is what border groups should be doing. Doing away with Anchor babies is more important than the fence in my opinion.
Well... for as long as this doesn't happen, just about every red-blooded illegal can easily amnesty themselves by simply breeding within US' borders and instantly becoming proud parents of US citizens (by birth). All the agitation in the congress and in the media is quite irrelevant.
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#2. To: who knows what evil, Brian S, all (#1)
#3. To: Brian S (#0)
President Bush's Immigration Bill Suffers Crushing Defeat In Senate
#4. To: lodwick (#2)
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#5. To: Brian S (#0)
(Edited)
#6. To: who knows what evil. everyone here (#4)
#7. To: who knows what evil (#4)
They will CONTINUE to flood over the border on a daily basis.
#8. To: Vitamin Z (#3)
Suffers Crushing Defeat
#9. To: randge (#8)
"See you at the signing." - The Chimpster
#10. To: lodwick, who knows what evil, Brian S (#2)
#11. To: lodwick, who knows what evil, Eoghan, Brian S, christine (#2)
So it will continue to be "business as usual."
#12. To: who knows what evil (#4)
did anyone catch it when Reid said that the 'threatening' e-mails were being turned over to the Capitol Police?
#13. To: mirage (#12)
"If you vote in favor of this bill, I will work to defeat you in the next election"
#14. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#9)
Would you be surprised if Bush announced that he was going to sign the bill into law anyway?
#15. To: wbales. Horse. everyone here (#11)
#16. To: Brian S (#0)
WASHINGTON (CNN) -- President Bush's immigration bill suffered a crushing defeat Thursday in the Senate, when members voted against advancing the controversial legislation.
#17. To: lodwick (#15)
As Alex Jones was just saying, "If there was anywhere to move, I'd move."
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#18. To: a vast rightwing conspirator (#5)
Did anyone introduce an amendment or a bill that would stop granting US citizenship to the children of non-US residents or citizens born on US soil?
#19. To: Brian S (#0)
#20. To: LACUMO (#16)
#21. To: wbales (#13)
"If you vote in favor of this bill, I will work to defeat you in the next election"
#22. To: Brian S, *The Border* (#0)
Ron Paul for President
#23. To: karelian (#21)
(Edited)
Maybe all the letters, faxes & emails had an impact, after all!
#24. To: Esso (#23)
#25. To: who knows what evil, CHRISTINE (#4)
President Bush's immigration bill suffered a crushing defeat Thursday in the Senate, when members voted against advancing the controversial legislation.
#26. To: Esso (#23)
All of the sudden they became mere mortals when faced with the prospect of lynch mobs.
#27. To: Horse, ALL, wbales (#10)
the failure to build a wall when they had 60 years to do it tells you that they are traitors and really do want to destroy America.
#28. To: Esso (#23)
More likely Hal Turner posting the home addresses & phone numbers of the traitors who voted for the bill had the biggest impact. Scared the hell out of 'em. All of the sudden they became mere mortals when faced with the prospect of lynch mobs.
Ron Paul for President
#29. To: IndieTX (#27)
Vote Number: 235 Vote Date: June 28, 2007, 11:04 AM
Required For Majority: 3/5 Vote Result: Cloture Motion Rejected
Measure Number: S. 1639
Measure Title: A bill to provide for comprehensive immigration reform and for other purposes.
Vote Counts: YEAs 46
NAYs 53
Not Voting 1
Grouped By Vote Position
#30. To: randge, ALL (#29)
#31. To: randge (#29)
#32. To: Sodie Pop (#20)
Gee-Guess W won't have a legacy afterall.
#33. To: LACUMO (#16)
#34. To: Brian S (#0)
#35. To: LACUMO (#32)
when we were stupid enough to believe in jim robbersome on freak republic.
#36. To: farmfriend, a vast rightwing conspirator, Robin, Christine, (#18)
#37. To: Horse (#36)
Anchor babies for illegals
Ron Paul for President
#38. To: robin, Horse (#37)
#39. To: Horse (#36)
(Edited)
Repeal that ex post facto and 40,000,000 Hispanics would no longer be citizens of Norte America.
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