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Title: poor palo
Source: LP
URL Source: http://libertypost.org/cgi-bin/read ... gi?ArtNum=189815&Disp=477#C477
Published: Jun 6, 2007
Author: palo verde
Post Date: 2007-07-04 15:13:31 by Itisa1mosttoolate
Keywords: None
Views: 2614
Comments: 119

477. To: Goldi-Lox, Independent Conservative, ALL, *Ron Paul for President* (#76)

(Independent Conservative) Please delete my account.

(Goldi-Lox) Your wish is my command.

Done.

you may as well delete my account too Goldi
your cause is anti-immigration
it would please you if the whole site were about that

the only hot topic on LP beside that is Ron Paul
and you would prefer it be on back burner

the GOP primaries are coming up very soon
and whoever wins the primaries will be our President
there will be burning urge to talk about Ron Paul during the Primary season

you will get fed up and ban all Ron Paul posts
and I will have no idea where to go
it's better I try to find out now
while there is still time

I will want to post a lot about Ron Paul while the primaries are taking place

so all prayers for your happiness and joy and the happiness and joy of every poster on LP

perhaps when Ron Paul is our President
we will all be together again on LP
you will find it acceptable Breaking News what our President (Ron Paul) does then
at least I hope so
if not let LP mirror your own passions and causes
it is your site, you have perfect right to have this

All my love, Palo

palo verde posted on 2007-06-03 19:28:12 ET

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#52. To: Arator (#48) (Edited)

When will humanity lose such self-destructive collectivist group-think?

It seems to me it starts with the family, naturally enough. Generally no one is going to care about you more than your family. So there is a basic group, and we all are part of it. And very loyal to it for the obvious reasons.

So then you go to a really BIG family called the Nation. Now it is easy and convenient for governmental political forces to make citizens feel like this is their "family", and they can draw on the same powerful emotional forces that make us loyal to our real family that usually does care about us.

I guess this is called "Nationalisum". And it usually ends up badly - Iraq prime example.

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato

tom007  posted on  2007-07-04   19:13:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: tom007 (#52)

I think these divisions start when the state dictates who people can and cannot (or MUST) trade with. Natural social order is sabotaged from the get-go.


From Two Party System... ...to Two Family System.

PnbC  posted on  2007-07-04   19:26:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)

It's hard for me to believe anyone w/an active brain cell has any faith in the American political system. Do these people know that most votes are cast by computer and tallied by a program that has been demonstrated to be faulty? Hope is a wonderful thing, but reality should trump it every time.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-07-04   19:33:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: PnbC (#53)

So I can't go to Cuba but I CANNOT not buy Israel produced items?

I got it - we're free.

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato

tom007  posted on  2007-07-04   19:35:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: Jethro Tull (#54)

and tallied by a program that has been demonstrated to be faulty?

Gonna be an interesting (s)election. The only rebound for a Ron Paul Revolution is a bloody one, which entails an economic collapse...Lords Rothschild singularly hold the purse strings for that timeline...

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2007-07-04   19:37:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: Eoghan (#47)

I think I get it. ZOG = Zionist Overlord Government. Correct?

A little alexjonesish, but a fair description of what the federal government has become.

In recent years I've seen a similarity between the collectivist jew-haters and the hard-core Zionists. They both identify all Jews with Israel and AIPAC. I am not too appreciated by the Israel Amen corner over at LP.

If Stormfront is an ADL front it just further proves my point.


From Two Party System... ...to Two Family System.

PnbC  posted on  2007-07-04   19:40:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Eoghan (#56)

The only rebound for a Ron Paul Revolution is a bloody one, which entails an economic collapse..

Agree. I'm hoping for both. There is zero chance a true populist would ever get elected.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-07-04   19:48:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: PnbC (#57) (Edited)

A little alexjonesish

Very little alexjonish...his wife is Jewish. Alex is very careful about what killed Joe McCarthy.(and numerous others) He does his own light veiling in this respect. (That is, leave it up to the listener to do his/her own research.) Bill Cooper, had enough, and came right out with it after the OKC bombing. He was set up a couple of months after 9/11 for his Swan Song. Remember, remember the Fifth of November...(2001). - V.

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2007-07-04   19:52:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: intotheabyss (#27)

One speaks hebrew the other speaks yiddish One is a true jew the other is a mongul from nothern Turkey originally also know as an anasazi jew

Bingo!

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Lod  posted on  2007-07-04   19:53:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: PnbC (#36)

I am neither rich nor powerful. My goals are peace and liberty, things that are good for everyone.

Bump that.

Peace, friend.

Join the Ron Paul Revolution

Lod  posted on  2007-07-04   19:57:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: Jethro Tull (#58)

chance a true populist

I wouldn't call him a populist..as it had its routes from 1930's Jewish socialist movement grown out during the Dust Bowl. That's what saves Pat Buchanan from Sirhan Sirhan (both plants). Ron Paul, unlike Pat, has 100% serviceable record when it comes to the Constitution. (A far as I could read)

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2007-07-04   19:59:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: tom007 (#55)

So I can't go to Cuba but I CANNOT not buy Israel produced items?

I got it - we're free.

Well, I suppose you could avoid buying "made in Israel" labeled products, though there may be other things we can't avoid. I was talking trade in general. From local to internationally, the more governments dictate the terms of commerce and the market, the more imbalance and mercantilist favoritism results. These have tremendous negative sociological consequences (as society is tied in with the economy).

When goods and people no longer cross boarders, soldiers and tanks will.


From Two Party System... ...to Two Family System.

PnbC  posted on  2007-07-04   20:00:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: PnbC (#40)

ZOG

Go to Wiki on the sidebar here and type in ZOG - stand back for all the information there as to the history, etc, etc of Zionist Occupied Government may mean.

Join the Ron Paul Revolution

Lod  posted on  2007-07-04   20:01:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Eoghan (#59)

Bill Cooper

He was quite a piece of work. When I first got on the NWO clue bus in the mid 90s, I never missed his show. Shortwave was the only vehicle for alternative radio back then, now I do my listening right here.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-07-04   20:02:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Jethro Tull (#65)

Yeah...I'm probably close to have your age...but yeah early 1990's, out of the marine corps with exposure to short wave radio....

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2007-07-04   20:05:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: PnbC (#45)

See. I'm a true cynic.

lol

If you're not a cynic, you don't belong here.

We're tired of the gov lies and b.s. - tell the truth for a change.

Trust me, we CAN handle it.

Join the Ron Paul Revolution

Lod  posted on  2007-07-04   20:07:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Arator (#48)

A Jew who loves freedom is my brother. A WASP who hates freedom is my mortal enemy. A person's racial/religious identity is irrevelant. It's the individual and what they stand for (or against) that counts.

Perfectly, well said. Thanks.

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Lod  posted on  2007-07-04   20:08:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Eoghan (#59) (Edited)

Very little alexjonish...his wife is Jewish

Well I'm not implying anything about Alex Jones other than that he has a flair for the dramatic that makes "Zionist Overlord Government" sound like something he would coin up. As for his position on Jews, I've heard what he has to say, and I have no problem with him. Except that he is too scary and depressing to listen to and entertain in my mind and I value being able to live from day to day. That's an altogether different deal.


From Two Party System... ...to Two Family System.

PnbC  posted on  2007-07-04   20:11:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: PnbC (#69)

Yes, Alex gets over the top at times...and before Bill Cooper got on his case...out right lied. He's been more careful about what he can say and can't in plain English, and more careful about facts that listeners could reasonably duplicate. I haven't played loose goose with the facts with you...and I never will.

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2007-07-04   20:20:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: angle (#31)

palo is a die hard bush supporter and defender

palo is a thread disrupter

palo is all about palo

Finally, she's seen through smirk and his shtick.

I've never found her to be about herself, or disrupting threads, any more than what any of us post that may not have 100% of the forums' support.

Join the Ron Paul Revolution

Lod  posted on  2007-07-04   22:44:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: lodwick (#71)

Finally, she's seen through smirk and his shtick.

I've never found her to be about herself, or disrupting threads, any more than what any of us post that may not have 100% of the forums' support.

Exactly.

But apparently some are fine with her and Ron Paul being shut down and relegated to the BikerBar. Speaks VOLUMES. Looks rather twofaced for those that support a Free Speech Forum.

Her civility was appreciated by me.

The fact is, MANY voters have changed their positions as more information and experience with the trolls in DC has surfaced. It doesn't matter who, how or why, as we all need to unite. The politics of divide and rule have led us to this point. More browbeating and thuggery won't fix it.

"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60

Calamity  posted on  2007-07-04   22:56:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: JCHarris (#12)

Good catch! LOL

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

IndieTX  posted on  2007-07-04   23:01:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Calamity, everyone here (#72)

The fact is, MANY voters have changed their positions as more information and experience with the trolls in DC has surfaced. It doesn't matter who, how or why, as we all need to unite. The politics of divide and rule have led us to this point. More browbeating and thuggery won't fix it.

Thank you.

For those of us who wish to return to a Constitutional Republic, Ron Paul is the only candidate who offers us a hope of doing so, with the notable exception of Mike Gravel, former D Senator from AK.

I would love to see those two guys on the same ticket.

Join the Ron Paul Revolution

Lod  posted on  2007-07-04   23:09:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: lodwick (#74)

For those of us who wish to return to a Constitutional Republic, Ron Paul is the only candidate who offers us a hope of doing so

That is absolutely correct. And a record to back it up. I believe, as others do, he truly is, the last chance this country, and perhaps, other sovereign nations have, to begin to the journey back to sanity.

with the notable exception of Mike Gravel, former D Senator from AK.

I would love to see those two guys on the same ticket.

I like him too. I don't know enough about his record to give him a #2 spot, but I did watch him in the debates though. I have seen where some have begun to smear him too. Which is an obvious sign, that sanity is a threat to them. ;)

"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60

Calamity  posted on  2007-07-04   23:15:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: lodwick, Christine, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#9)

Palo may be the only poster who, to my knowledge, has never made a hurtful reply to anyone.

Seems to me that she dissed Christine - directly or indirectly.

I always regarded her as a naive child. She made for some good balance, when BAC & I would go at it.


SKYDRIFTER  posted on  2007-07-04   23:24:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Calamity (#75)

I like him too. I don't know enough about his record to give him a #2 spot, but I did watch him in the debates though. I have seen where some have begun to smear him too. Which is an obvious sign, that sanity is a threat to them. ;)

Yes, he chose not to run again for his Senate seat, after two terms, when he became aware of all the corruption going on there.

He's a good guy and a patriot.

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Lod  posted on  2007-07-04   23:36:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: PnbC, Jethro Tull, christine (#36) (Edited)

a dyed in the wool Jew lover.

From the link:

"I jumped back as if I had just shaken hands with a tarantula – and indeed I had! For this was none other than Willis Carto, the publisher of the Spotlight and the most notorious anti-Semitic bigot in America. "

You should note, bluegrass, who used to post here is a personal friend of Eustace Mullin. Eustace told him early on that Willis Carto was an ADL plant for Spotlight. The adventures of Christopher Bollyn and his witnesses seem to bare out this observation....

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2007-07-04   23:44:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Calamity, lodwick (#7)

I like Palo.

I like Palo too, and I can't see why people get so irritated about her.

The "Department of Defense" has never won a war. The "War Department" was undefeated.

Indrid Cold  posted on  2007-07-04   23:53:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Eoghan, JiminyC (#78)

You should note, bluegrass, who used to post here is a personal friend of Eustace Mullin. Eustace told him early on that Willis Carto was an ADL plant for Spotlight. The adventures of Christopher Bollyn and his witnesses seem to bare out this observation....

damn. who can you trust anymore?

christine  posted on  2007-07-04   23:55:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: lodwick (#77)

Yes, he chose not to run again for his Senate seat, after two terms, when he became aware of all the corruption going on there.

He's a good guy and a patriot.

Thanks for the info Lod!

I will do some homework on him. Bet there's some Youtube stuff out there... I'll have a look.

Thanks!

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"All forms of tampering with human beings, getting at them, shaping them against their will to your own pattern, all thought control and conditioning is, therefore, a denial of that in men which makes them men and their values ultimate." Quote by: Isaiah Berlin (1909-1997) Source: Two Concepts of Liberty, 1958

"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60

Calamity  posted on  2007-07-04   23:56:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: christine (#80)

I don't know if you remember but bluegrass stated that here...and if I remember correctly..on LF also. I imagine Chris Bollyn has come to this awareness also..

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2007-07-04   23:58:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: christine (#80)

damn. who can you trust anymore?

hmm... that's a tough one. ; )

hammerdown  posted on  2007-07-05   0:07:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Indrid Cold (#79)

I like Palo too, and I can't see why people get so irritated about her.

I don't get it either. If there is a ancient axe to grind, I'd like to understand it.

"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60

Calamity  posted on  2007-07-05   0:08:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: hammerdown (#83)

you, tim. :P

(you been gone too long)

christine  posted on  2007-07-05   0:10:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Calamity, lodwick (#81)

a couple good interviews of Sen. Gravel from the non-leftist view:

MP3 here. (58:54)

MP3 here. (38:51)

hammerdown  posted on  2007-07-05   0:17:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: hammerdown (#86)

a couple good interviews of Sen. Gravel from the non-leftist view:

MP3 here. (58:54)

MP3 here. (38:51)

Thanks Hammer!

I'm surprised at the length of the interviews! Sounds meaty!

"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60

Calamity  posted on  2007-07-05   0:21:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: christine (#85) (Edited)

yeah, been a little preoccupied. : D
I'll try to get back here more often.

hammerdown  posted on  2007-07-05   0:40:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Calamity (#87)

You're welcome.
They're good. Not the pre-scripted progressive POV, that's for sure.

hammerdown  posted on  2007-07-05   0:48:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: hammerdown (#89)

They're good. Not the pre-scripted progressive POV, that's for sure.

I have no pre-conceived opinions on Gravel, other than, my impressions and opinions formed in the debates I watched. A good friend of mine taught me a valuable lesson: Read it all; one is free to accept or reject what they like.

Imagine that. Giving yourself permission, and the motivation to do so.

A freeing process to wakeup ones OWN thought process.

"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60

Calamity  posted on  2007-07-05   0:58:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Calamity (#90)

Read it all; one is free to accept or reject what they like.

Exactly, that's where I come from, too.
so many want to put themselves in a box and hang a sign around their neck that shows that they 'belong' to this or that partisanship. what a waste of time.

imho, Mike's a good guy. sure could've used more like him in congress since he left. And like Ron Paul, he recognizes the folly of this country's lost vision and is attempting to express that to everyone he can.

hammerdown  posted on  2007-07-05   2:13:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Calamity (#90)

Read Daniel Ellsberg's Secrets. It presents a very favorable picture of Gravel, as the one senator who dared to reveal the Pentagon Papers.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-07-05   10:17:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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