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Published: Jun 6, 2007
Author: palo verde
Post Date: 2007-07-04 15:13:31 by Itisa1mosttoolate
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477. To: Goldi-Lox, Independent Conservative, ALL, *Ron Paul for President* (#76) (Independent Conservative) Please delete my account. (Goldi-Lox) Your wish is my command. Done. you may as well delete my account too Goldi the only hot topic on LP beside that is Ron Paul the GOP primaries are coming up very soon you will get fed up and ban all Ron Paul posts I will want to post a lot about Ron Paul while the primaries are taking place so all prayers for your happiness and joy and the happiness and joy of every poster on LP perhaps when Ron Paul is our President All my love, Palo palo verde posted on 2007-06-03 19:28:12 ET
your cause is anti-immigration
it would please you if the whole site were about that
and you would prefer it be on back burner
and whoever wins the primaries will be our President
there will be burning urge to talk about Ron Paul during the Primary season
and I will have no idea where to go
it's better I try to find out now
while there is still time
we will all be together again on LP
you will find it acceptable Breaking News what our President (Ron Paul) does then
at least I hope so
if not let LP mirror your own passions and causes
it is your site, you have perfect right to have this
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How does LP manage to stay afloat?
There are people that pay the bills.
With the barkers and the colored balloons?
"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs
How does this site stay afloat. There are what ten regular posters besides you. Quit worrying about LP. Besides we all know the Jooos are behind everything.
Veronica?
So where, oh where, did Palo go?
I like Palo. The Klan was only too happy to carry out her request. She strayed, she paid.
"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60
Perhaps you care to enlighten us as to what a JOO is????
Palo may be the only poster who, to my knowledge, has never made a hurtful reply to anyone.
I never saw one either. She respected others POV, and tried to gently ask for the same respect in return. Just the kind of person/poster this country OBVIOUSLY can do without, eh? NO. Only hooded hangmen are welcome there.
"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60
Just the kind of person/poster this country OBVIOUSLY can do without, eh? NO. Amen. Time to get ready to go do the dog & burger show...
Besides we all know the Jooos are behind everything. Of SHIT !! Can of Shit is BAAAAAck!! Posting from Tel Aviv.... I thought a "willy" was a bad word ! LMAO !
palo was/is a dear!
Besides we all know the Jooos are behind everything. Veronica? One of the Flying Monkey Squad.... who knows, who cares... they are all putridly alike.
I have said some harsh stuff to Palo -- some stuff just couldn't be left unsaid. But in view of her devotion to Ron Paul -- someone the thinking majority here support -- I would respectfully welcome her posting here. One eensy little thing though, she needs to publicly apologize to the owners of this forum for mis characterizing them and those who post here as anti-semites (and saying that she never posts here, Sibel Edmunds not withstanding). It's true that there are some who hate Jews per se rather than Israel policy here, but if that was an overwhelming majority I probably wouldn't post here myself.
Palo, if you're out there lurkin', that message was for you too.
Sure, but more importantly, would you flee the country? How loud a speaker would it take? Bear with me, I'm doing a survey...
"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs
I don't quite understand your meaning? I'm not talking about the country, I'm talking about this particular forum. If I did have to flee the country, it sure as fuck wouldn't be for Israel!
Anyone contending that ZOG is not a malevolent force in America or anywhere else, is a Supremacist, liar or hopelessly naive.
Good, then I'm doing my job! :)
"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs
Well said, bravo!
Wot's ZOG?
I don't quite understand your meaning? Good, then I'm doing my job! :) I can't argue with that.
A lot of people who post here still post there. Including the ones that have been banned. I did not resign however. She did want me or appreciate what I brought the forum so why should I? Not everyone likes cute smilies and sexual humor.
Most everyone here KNOWS the difference between a Torah/Jew and a Talmud/Zionist. It's like knowing the difference between Day and Night.
Obviously, Goldi goes off her meds from time to time.
One speaks hebrew the other speaks yiddish One is a true jew the other is a mongul from nothern Turkey originally also know as an anasazi jew
don't come here
"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma Gandhi
Even here someone put me on bozo. Oh well. Their loss.
Amazing isn't, how everyone takes religion for granted until some outsider come Raisin-Up on us. I hope I haven't violated any trademarks.
"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs
palo is a die hard bush supporter and defender palo is a thread disrupter palo is all about palo
"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma Gandhi
I've got two, er, uh, dis-admirers, since a week after this site was started. I've long since written them off as spooks.
"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs
Yes, most everyone. There are a handful here whose responses tend to suggest no distinction in their minds. Palo took them as being representative, I think.
Yeah, I had one over at LP too. I think the highest I ever went to was 5 and that was after my spat with byteshrdder. It's not like I ever say anything contiversial. Oh well if there really don't want to see my posts that bad...
Of course the WoT ZOG...though the domestic agenda (no guns, no Constitution) should be equally as worrying...
Ashkenazim. Like the Khazars. Yes I am descended from them. Look I'm against aid to Israel, and I think that the US allying with Israel is suicidal (and potentially genocidal too). It's stupid and ignorant for all Eastern European Jews to be viewed the same way. I don't even particularly care about Judaism as a religion. The Old Testament SUCKS and I don't subscribe to the eternal victim mindset. I am neither rich nor powerful. My goals are peace and liberty, things that are good for everyone. I am rather curious to know what sort of BIG GOVERNMENT solution those who universally despise Jewish people are advocating. Would you sell out your own liberty for a chance to get back at the collective that you perceive has been holding you back in life? Just a thought. Await the orders of a head-of-state who supports your views, then it will be "legal". Those who hate Jews per se will have to come to terms that Justin Raimondo is a dyed in the wool Jew lover. I can attest to that as I've known him almost 30 years.
It's not a matter of holding anyone back. It's just pure elitism to it's fullest. Hence, they are smarter than us mere peasants and must cull the herd so to speak. It's called population control and the elite can't stand that so many of us occupy THEIR planet. And there are many plans in the works to achieve their ends. It just so happens that the richest families who wield most of the influence happen to be Jewish. There are others who support their goals. It really is that simple As for the details of all their groups, goals, agendas and actions that is a much more complex issue.
Doesn't palo come across as a 60's LSD experiment most of the time...then, on occasion, post as someone different?
No, she acts like a dupe and generally supports such a conclusion.
"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs
Wot's ZOG? Of course the WoT ZOG...though the domestic agenda (no guns, no Constitution) should be equally as worrying... Um ok I think I agree with the part I understand. When I said "Wot's" I really meant "What's" (yeah I was being goofy). I still don't know what ZOG means (thought I might guess the Z stands for Zionist). I guess you can put me in the last category "hopelessly naive".
If there's a case for that...sounds like an organization like Stormfront. Incorporated and run out of the friendly Jewish confines of W. Palm Beach. Clearly an ADL front operation.
Uh yeah...I think, just to nice. Clearly naive?
What bothers me is a focus more on ethnicity rather than what they are doing. If there are non-Jews doing the same things in the same positions of power is this acceptable? It's kind of like the origins of the Neocons, from Trotskist commie splitters from Stalin to Scoop Jackson Democrat interventionist to Republican internationalist/militarist. And they all hate Russia.
I included this in my response earlier. But the sad truth is there is a huge zionist factor in these NWO plans.
Really? Interesting suggestion. Wouldn't totally surprise me if true. See. I'm a true cynic.
That's because Putin went after the Oligarchs and tossed them out...The true Neo-con ruse as a feigned hate for China. The Rothschilds know where the great wealth will reside.
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When will humanity lose such self-destructive collectivist group-think? Tribalism is stupid. Group-hate is stupid. Judge people on an individual basis, not on the basis of their group identity. A Jew who loves freedom is my brother. A WASP who hates freedom is my mortal enemy. A person's racial/religious identity is irrevelant. It's the individual and what they stand for (or against) that counts. Happy 4th, PnbC! Long time no see!
Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.
So, it's like that beach song lyric that goes "Two jews for eve-ry goyyy".
Thanks Arator. May the Fourth be with you!
Yep...it's really that simple. Since the creation of the Bastard State of Israel, that used to be self-evident Truth by the vast majority...the Fed Res's birth (same year of the ADL) turned the tide toward Totalitarianism here in America. We'll see what comes next...
It seems to me it starts with the family, naturally enough. Generally no one is going to care about you more than your family. So there is a basic group, and we all are part of it. And very loyal to it for the obvious reasons. So then you go to a really BIG family called the Nation. Now it is easy and convenient for governmental political forces to make citizens feel like this is their "family", and they can draw on the same powerful emotional forces that make us loyal to our real family that usually does care about us. I guess this is called "Nationalisum". And it usually ends up badly - Iraq prime example.
"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato
I think these divisions start when the state dictates who people can and cannot (or MUST) trade with. Natural social order is sabotaged from the get-go.
It's hard for me to believe anyone w/an active brain cell has any faith in the American political system. Do these people know that most votes are cast by computer and tallied by a program that has been demonstrated to be faulty? Hope is a wonderful thing, but reality should trump it every time.
So I can't go to Cuba but I CANNOT not buy Israel produced items? I got it - we're free.
"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato
Gonna be an interesting (s)election. The only rebound for a Ron Paul Revolution is a bloody one, which entails an economic collapse...Lords Rothschild singularly hold the purse strings for that timeline...
I think I get it. ZOG = Zionist Overlord Government. Correct? A little alexjonesish, but a fair description of what the federal government has become. In recent years I've seen a similarity between the collectivist jew-haters and the hard-core Zionists. They both identify all Jews with Israel and AIPAC. I am not too appreciated by the Israel Amen corner over at LP. If Stormfront is an ADL front it just further proves my point.
Agree. I'm hoping for both. There is zero chance a true populist would ever get elected.
Very little alexjonish...his wife is Jewish. Alex is very careful about what killed Joe McCarthy.(and numerous others) He does his own light veiling in this respect. (That is, leave it up to the listener to do his/her own research.) Bill Cooper, had enough, and came right out with it after the OKC bombing. He was set up a couple of months after 9/11 for his Swan Song. Remember, remember the Fifth of November...(2001). - V.
Bingo!
Bump that. Peace, friend.
I wouldn't call him a populist..as it had its routes from 1930's Jewish socialist movement grown out during the Dust Bowl. That's what saves Pat Buchanan from Sirhan Sirhan (both plants). Ron Paul, unlike Pat, has 100% serviceable record when it comes to the Constitution. (A far as I could read)
I got it - we're free. Well, I suppose you could avoid buying "made in Israel" labeled products, though there may be other things we can't avoid. I was talking trade in general. From local to internationally, the more governments dictate the terms of commerce and the market, the more imbalance and mercantilist favoritism results. These have tremendous negative sociological consequences (as society is tied in with the economy). When goods and people no longer cross boarders, soldiers and tanks will.
Go to Wiki on the sidebar here and type in ZOG - stand back for all the information there as to the history, etc, etc of Zionist Occupied Government may mean.
He was quite a piece of work. When I first got on the NWO clue bus in the mid 90s, I never missed his show. Shortwave was the only vehicle for alternative radio back then, now I do my listening right here.
Yeah...I'm probably close to have your age...but yeah early 1990's, out of the marine corps with exposure to short wave radio....
lol If you're not a cynic, you don't belong here. We're tired of the gov lies and b.s. - tell the truth for a change. Trust me, we CAN handle it.
Perfectly, well said. Thanks.
Well I'm not implying anything about Alex Jones other than that he has a flair for the dramatic that makes "Zionist Overlord Government" sound like something he would coin up. As for his position on Jews, I've heard what he has to say, and I have no problem with him. Except that he is too scary and depressing to listen to and entertain in my mind and I value being able to live from day to day. That's an altogether different deal.
Yes, Alex gets over the top at times...and before Bill Cooper got on his case...out right lied. He's been more careful about what he can say and can't in plain English, and more careful about facts that listeners could reasonably duplicate. I haven't played loose goose with the facts with you...and I never will.
palo is a thread disrupter palo is all about palo Finally, she's seen through smirk and his shtick. I've never found her to be about herself, or disrupting threads, any more than what any of us post that may not have 100% of the forums' support.
I've never found her to be about herself, or disrupting threads, any more than what any of us post that may not have 100% of the forums' support. Exactly. But apparently some are fine with her and Ron Paul being shut down and relegated to the BikerBar. Speaks VOLUMES. Looks rather twofaced for those that support a Free Speech Forum. Her civility was appreciated by me. The fact is, MANY voters have changed their positions as more information and experience with the trolls in DC has surfaced. It doesn't matter who, how or why, as we all need to unite. The politics of divide and rule have led us to this point. More browbeating and thuggery won't fix it.
"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60
Good catch! LOL
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition Thank you. For those of us who wish to return to a Constitutional Republic, Ron Paul is the only candidate who offers us a hope of doing so, with the notable exception of Mike Gravel, former D Senator from AK. I would love to see those two guys on the same ticket.
That is absolutely correct. And a record to back it up. I believe, as others do, he truly is, the last chance this country, and perhaps, other sovereign nations have, to begin to the journey back to sanity. with the notable exception of Mike Gravel, former D Senator from AK. I would love to see those two guys on the same ticket. I like him too. I don't know enough about his record to give him a #2 spot, but I did watch him in the debates though. I have seen where some have begun to smear him too. Which is an obvious sign, that sanity is a threat to them. ;)
"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60
Seems to me that she dissed Christine - directly or indirectly. I always regarded her as a naive child. She made for some good balance, when BAC & I would go at it.
Yes, he chose not to run again for his Senate seat, after two terms, when he became aware of all the corruption going on there. He's a good guy and a patriot.
From the link: "I jumped back as if I had just shaken hands with a tarantula – and indeed I had! For this was none other than Willis Carto, the publisher of the Spotlight and the most notorious anti-Semitic bigot in America. " You should note, bluegrass, who used to post here is a personal friend of Eustace Mullin. Eustace told him early on that Willis Carto was an ADL plant for Spotlight. The adventures of Christopher Bollyn and his witnesses seem to bare out this observation....
I like Palo too, and I can't see why people get so irritated about her.
The "Department of Defense" has never won a war. The "War Department" was undefeated.
damn. who can you trust anymore?
He's a good guy and a patriot. Thanks for the info Lod! I will do some homework on him. Bet there's some Youtube stuff out there... I'll have a look. Thanks! --- "All forms of tampering with human beings, getting at them, shaping them against their will to your own pattern, all thought control and conditioning is, therefore, a denial of that in men which makes them men and their values ultimate." Quote by: Isaiah Berlin (1909-1997) Source: Two Concepts of Liberty, 1958
"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60
I don't know if you remember but bluegrass stated that here...and if I remember correctly..on LF also. I imagine Chris Bollyn has come to this awareness also..
hmm... that's a tough one. ; )
I don't get it either. If there is a ancient axe to grind, I'd like to understand it.
"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60
you, tim. :P (you been gone too long)
a couple good interviews of Sen. Gravel from the non-leftist view: MP3 here. (58:54) MP3 here. (38:51)
MP3 here. (58:54) MP3 here. (38:51) Thanks Hammer! I'm surprised at the length of the interviews! Sounds meaty!
"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60
yeah, been a little preoccupied. : D
You're welcome.
I have no pre-conceived opinions on Gravel, other than, my impressions and opinions formed in the debates I watched. A good friend of mine taught me a valuable lesson: Read it all; one is free to accept or reject what they like. Imagine that. Giving yourself permission, and the motivation to do so. A freeing process to wakeup ones OWN thought process.
"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60
Exactly, that's where I come from, too. imho, Mike's a good guy. sure could've used more like him in congress since he left. And like Ron Paul, he recognizes the folly of this country's lost vision and is attempting to express that to everyone he can.
Read Daniel Ellsberg's Secrets. It presents a very favorable picture of Gravel, as the one senator who dared to reveal the Pentagon Papers.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Thanks for the links Hammer, I'm looking forward to learning more about him. Thanks again.
"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60
Wow. I sure have my homework cut out for me now. Thanks for info, and to all for various links!
"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60
Most of those people also hate homosexuals, so I doubt if they'll care that Raimondo doesn't hate Jews. I wonder what they make of the fact that Michael Rivero, for one, is a Jew.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Justin is very harsh on the warmongering Israel firsters. It's good to have confirmation that his opinions are not due to any underlying racial/ethnic hatred. As you know, 4um has a *Justin Raimondo* ping list that is quite popular http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=51780&Disp=2#C2 http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=37861&Disp=0 http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=33039&Disp=0 http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=32897&Disp=0 http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=31595&Disp=0
I can't agree with this. Jewish Marxist groups were mostly urban and started to gain momentum in the early 20th century (in addition to Jews, Socialist parties won a lot of recruits from immigrant industrial laborers from southern and eastern Europe). American Populism was mostly rural and home-growth: the free silver movement was started not by Jews but by debt-ridden farmers in the South and Midwest back in the late 19th century. They tended to be religious and nativist as well as populist and anti-banker, and their legacy pretty much ended with Huey Long.
That's a cliche that you hear all the time from free-traders, but it doesn't hold much water. If we slapped a well-deserved tariff on Mexican goods, do you really think that the all-powerful Mexican Army would send troops and tanks across the border?
The Dust Bowl troubadour and Socialist activist, Woody Guthrie... Woody Guthrie’s Songs For ‘Bubbe’ Son-in-law of Aliza “Bubbe” Greenblatt, a respected Yiddish songwriter and ardent Zionist. And now, revealed for the first time, composer of dozens of Jewish-themed songs — including a bunch about Chanukah — while he was living in Coney Island. These long-buried songs will be performed for the first time Saturday night at a special concert at the 92nd Street Y called “Holy Ground: The Jewish Songs of Woody Guthrie.” The show will feature Guthrie’s Jewish lyrics set to music by The Klezmatics. Special guest is Guthrie’s oldest son, Arlo, who will sing a song written by the Jewish grandmother who helped raise him and his siblings. The event is the brainchild of Nora Guthrie, Woody’s daughter, and director of the Woody Guthrie Archive in Midtown. Sitting in her office, Nora, a handsome woman with long, curly, salt-and-pepper hair, explains the project is designed to explore and honor the unlikely bond between her grandmother, the Orthodox Jewish songwriter and Yiddish poet, and her father, the Oklahoma Christian troubadour.
Marxist groups co-opted and hijacked native populist and agrarian movements for their own purposes. That doesn't change the fact that populism and agrarianism has native American (not in the PC sense) roots.
The back story of “Wonder Wheel” is one of chance meetings and the preordained – beshert – as Guthrie's mother-in-law, staunch Zionist and labor activist Aliza Greenblatt, would have said. When he came east in the 1940s, Guthrie married Marjorie Mazia, one of Martha Graham’s modern dancers. Mazia was the daughter of acclaimed Yiddish poet Greenblatt. And Guthrie and Greenblatt came to discover that they were kindred spirits of sorts, as the Midwesterner soaked in the diversity of his Coney Island neighborhood and talked politics and social justice with his outspoken mother-in-law. Fast-forward a few decades. When violinist Itzhak Perlman introduced the New York-based klezmer ensemble to Guthrie’s daughter, Nora, who now manages her father’s archives, found the group to revive Guthrie’s passionate cry for social justice. For the Klezmatics, who frequently wear progressive politics on their sleeves, setting Guthrie’s words to the neo-klezmer style they’ve made popular, seemed a perfect fit. “[Nora Guthrie] was someone interested in human rights, who was a spiritual person,” Sklamberg said. “And Woody Guthrie was a spiritual person, certainly well read as far as the Bible goes. And through [Greenblatt’s] influence, he ended up focusing on early books of the Bible, the Torah.” Those ideals come through in his songs. “There are songs about anti-fascism and kids’ songs that used little yiddishisms and other material that just basically filtered through Woody’s own linguistic sensibility and his own particular quirky style of writing,” Sklamberg noted.
Interesting information - thanks.
No problem. There seems, or seemed, to be a growing interest in a possible Paul/Gravel ticket among certain antiwar groups but it's likely more wishful thinking than anything else. I don't really see an avenue for it, in a third party sense, to herd enough cats to make it possible. It'd be nice, but... the philosophical clash would be a huge hurdle.
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I'm 1/3 through the first MP3, and so far, even if the rest of the interview goes badly, I LIKE the way he is thinking on how to end the war. The strategy he lays out sounds awesome, with the daily votes, cancelled vacations/trips, and what the House could do to proceed with impeachment. And explains WHYYYYY this is important NOW. Then a followup resolution removing the Presidents power to pardon those associated with the lies. (paraphrasing here). It sounds as if the Libby commutation could never have happened, had the HOUSE, focused early in the year. (My note, the voters position on staying the course, sent the GOP packing (along with immigration)... there was/is no better time than NOW, to move forward.) Further he illustrates how Sirrica (sp) cracked the nut sentencing the little guys associated with the break in to 30 years... That started the rats jumping ship. (Note: which meets my Learn something every day goal.. lol) This sounds brilliant to me. And explains why Pelosi says impeachment is off the table. House can still proceed for the good of the people... doesn't matter what the Senate messes around with.... they are delaying what CAN be done by spending so much time with the Gonzales issue, etc. He says, drop it, and move in for what really matters. Soldiers are dying EVERY DAY. Awesome. I like the way he slows the interviewer down as well.. to clarify the steps needed and the effect of such, to achieve this goal. How the pols react, people, etc.. Really, this is great stuff. Hope others will listen to this. If the House refuses to move forward, it will continue to unmask the two-party fraud, IMO. Having said that, at this point, not having listened to the whole thing yet, he is saying, the people STILL have a voice in this. I wonder if it's true.
"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60
They have to go directly to the people, over the heads of the established media. Other than the internet, myspace, viral marketing, University / High School? newspaper ads? Who was that candidate that said something like: 'I bet you folks are wondering, WHO AM I AND WHY AND I HERE'. From the few QUESTIONS FOR THE CANDIDATE 'tubes' I've watched, they don't want the rhetorical BS, they can take the truth. They may not know history, but they probably have friend or family 'over there'. That's how the Drama Teacher helped her students make the war real in the play, VOICES IN CONFLICT. (Thread here: http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi? ArtNum=56143) Making it real, to those who are in the crosshairs to be cannon fodder.
"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60
Trust me, I am a BIG fan of Mike Gravel - imo, he kicked ass in the first debate, and will continue to do so, if he's asked any questions... I'd love to see him and Ron Paul run against, say, Hillary & Obama - the result would tell me whether it was truly time to expatriate myself.
Yes he did. I wish I could remember the polling after that night... but I think he, like RP, kicked up more dust than the rest that night. I've just made it through the first MP3, incredible! If we don't learn from history. . .
"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60
"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60
"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60
Thanks, that's a great story.
I hear ya', Jim. wouldn't that be great? a real choice against empire instead of the fraud of two wholly-funded empirical mouthpieces. Because, right now... right now... right now it's time to...
Thanks, guys, keep pumping it out there for everyone to see and hear the truth.
Ron is going to be on "This Week", this sunday. : )
Thanks, guys, keep pumping it out there for everyone to see and hear the truth. Was thinking about contacting the local theater to see if they would bring the play VOICES IN CONFLICT here. Why not?
"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60
I'm in.
"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60
Can't say for certain. On the face of it it doesn't seem likely. But no tariffs (by either side) are in place yet, and the severity would have an impact as to whether trade continues. And besides, if demand is high enough, in spite of (because of actually) an absolute ban on certain products then you have a booming black-market with ARMED gangsters in charge crossing the border. Come to think about it, that's exactly what we have right now. So few make the connection between the WoD and armed thugs. So the adage holds true, even if it isn't the exact sort of soldiers and tanks that you might envision. The principle holds up.
It's time, all right.
Why not? Go for it - it wouldn't surprise me if some touring company didn't pick up the play.
Of course you are entitled to whatever opinion you wish. I'm merely commenting as to my years and years of experiencing her thread disruptions and crappola on different forums. I'm glad she's not posting here.
"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma Gandhi
#2. To: lodwick (#1)
How does LP manage to stay afloat?
#3. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)
#4. To: lodwick (#1)
#5. To: willyone (#4)
Besides we all know the Jooos are behind everything.
#6. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#7. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)
#8. To: willyone (#4)
Besides we all know the Jooos are behind everything.
#9. To: Calamity (#7)
#10. To: lodwick (#9)
Palo may be the only poster who, to my knowledge, has never made a hurtful reply to anyone.
#11. To: Calamity. Everyone here (#10)
She respected others POV, and tried to gently ask for the same respect in return.
#12. To: Cynicom (#8)
willyone
#13. To: lodwick (#11)
#14. To: Cynicom (#5)
willyone
#15. To: Itisa1mosttoolate, christine, Zipporah (#0)
(Edited)
From Two Party System... ...to Two Family System.
#16. To: palo verde (#15)
From Two Party System... ...to Two Family System.
#17. To: PnbC (#15)
It's true that there are some who hate Jews per se rather than Israel policy here, but if that was an overwhelming majority I probably wouldn't post here myself.
#18. To: Dakmar (#17)
(Edited)
From Two Party System... ...to Two Family System.
#19. To: PnbC (#15)
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#20. To: PnbC (#18)
I don't quite understand your meaning?
#21. To: Eoghan (#19)
Anyone contending that ZOG is not a malevolent force in America or anywhere else, is a Supremacist, liar or hopelessly naive.
#22. To: Eoghan (#19)
From Two Party System... ...to Two Family System.
#23. To: Dakmar (#20)
(Edited)
To: PnbC
From Two Party System... ...to Two Family System.
#24. To: lodwick (#1)
How does LP manage to stay afloat?
#25. To: PnbC. everyone here (#15)
It's true that there are some who hate Jews per se rather than Israel policy here, but if that was an overwhelming majority I probably wouldn't post here myself.
#26. To: farmfriend (#24)
She did want me or appreciate what I brought the forum so why should I? Not everyone likes cute smilies and sexual humor.
#27. To: lodwick (#25)
Most everyone here KNOWS the difference between a Torah/Jew and a Talmud/Zionist.
#28. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)
I will have no idea where to go
#29. To: lodwick (#26)
Obviously, Goldi goes off her meds from time to time.
#30. To: PnbC (#18)
#31. To: lodwick (#9)
has never made a hurtful reply to anyone
#32. To: farmfriend (#29)
Even here someone put me on bozo. Oh well. Their loss.
#33. To: lodwick (#25)
Most everyone here KNOWS the difference between a Torah/Jew and a Talmud/Zionist.
From Two Party System... ...to Two Family System.
#34. To: Dakmar (#32)
#35. To: PnbC (#22)
Wot's ZOG?
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#36. To: intotheabyss (#27)
One speaks hebrew the other speaks yiddish One is a true jew the other is a mongul from nothern Turkey originally also know as an anasazi (sic) jew
From Two Party System... ...to Two Family System.
#37. To: PnbC (#36)
Would you sell out your own liberty for a chance to get back at the collective that you perceive has been holding you back in life?
#38. To: angle (#31)
palo is all about palo
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#39. To: Eoghan (#38)
#40. To: Eoghan (#35)
To: PnbC
From Two Party System... ...to Two Family System.
#41. To: PnbC (#36)
I am rather curious to know what sort of BIG GOVERNMENT solution those who universally despise Jewish people are advocating.
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#42. To: PnbC (#40)
I still don't know ZOG means (thought I might guess the Z stands for Zionist). I guess you can put me in the last category "hopelessly naive".
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#43. To: intotheabyss (#37)
From Two Party System... ...to Two Family System.
#44. To: PnbC (#43)
There are others who support their goals.
#45. To: Eoghan (#41)
From Two Party System... ...to Two Family System.
#46. To: PnbC (#43)
And they all hate Russia.
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#47. To: PnbC (#45)
(Edited)
Wouldn't totally surprise me if true.
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#48. To: PnbC (#36)
Those who hate Jews per se will have to come to terms that Justin Raimondo is a dyed in the wool Jew lover. I can attest to that as I've known him almost 30 years.
#49. To: Eoghan (#47)
West Palm Beach FL
From Two Party System... ...to Two Family System.
#50. To: Arator (#48)
From Two Party System... ...to Two Family System.
#51. To: Arator (#48)
(Edited)
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#52. To: Arator (#48)
(Edited)
When will humanity lose such self-destructive collectivist group-think?
#53. To: tom007 (#52)
From Two Party System... ...to Two Family System.
#54. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#0)
#55. To: PnbC (#53)
#56. To: Jethro Tull (#54)
and tallied by a program that has been demonstrated to be faulty?
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#57. To: Eoghan (#47)
From Two Party System... ...to Two Family System.
#58. To: Eoghan (#56)
The only rebound for a Ron Paul Revolution is a bloody one, which entails an economic collapse..
#59. To: PnbC (#57)
(Edited)
A little alexjonesish
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#60. To: intotheabyss (#27)
One speaks hebrew the other speaks yiddish One is a true jew the other is a mongul from nothern Turkey originally also know as an anasazi jew
#61. To: PnbC (#36)
I am neither rich nor powerful. My goals are peace and liberty, things that are good for everyone.
#62. To: Jethro Tull (#58)
chance a true populist
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#63. To: tom007 (#55)
So I can't go to Cuba but I CANNOT not buy Israel produced items?
From Two Party System... ...to Two Family System.
#64. To: PnbC (#40)
ZOG
#65. To: Eoghan (#59)
Bill Cooper
#66. To: Jethro Tull (#65)
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#67. To: PnbC (#45)
See. I'm a true cynic.
#68. To: Arator (#48)
A Jew who loves freedom is my brother. A WASP who hates freedom is my mortal enemy. A person's racial/religious identity is irrevelant. It's the individual and what they stand for (or against) that counts.
#69. To: Eoghan (#59)
(Edited)
Very little alexjonish...his wife is Jewish
From Two Party System... ...to Two Family System.
#70. To: PnbC (#69)
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#71. To: angle (#31)
palo is a die hard bush supporter and defender
#72. To: lodwick (#71)
Finally, she's seen through smirk and his shtick.
#73. To: JCHarris (#12)
#74. To: Calamity, everyone here (#72)
The fact is, MANY voters have changed their positions as more information and experience with the trolls in DC has surfaced. It doesn't matter who, how or why, as we all need to unite. The politics of divide and rule have led us to this point. More browbeating and thuggery won't fix it.
#75. To: lodwick (#74)
For those of us who wish to return to a Constitutional Republic, Ron Paul is the only candidate who offers us a hope of doing so
#76. To: lodwick, Christine, Honway, Robin, Aristeides, Red Jones, Diana, Kamala, All (#9)
Palo may be the only poster who, to my knowledge, has never made a hurtful reply to anyone.
#77. To: Calamity (#75)
I like him too. I don't know enough about his record to give him a #2 spot, but I did watch him in the debates though. I have seen where some have begun to smear him too. Which is an obvious sign, that sanity is a threat to them. ;)
#78. To: PnbC, Jethro Tull, christine (#36)
(Edited)
a dyed in the wool Jew lover.
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#79. To: Calamity, lodwick (#7)
I like Palo.
#80. To: Eoghan, JiminyC (#78)
You should note, bluegrass, who used to post here is a personal friend of Eustace Mullin. Eustace told him early on that Willis Carto was an ADL plant for Spotlight. The adventures of Christopher Bollyn and his witnesses seem to bare out this observation....
#81. To: lodwick (#77)
Yes, he chose not to run again for his Senate seat, after two terms, when he became aware of all the corruption going on there.
#82. To: christine (#80)
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#83. To: christine (#80)
damn. who can you trust anymore?
#84. To: Indrid Cold (#79)
I like Palo too, and I can't see why people get so irritated about her.
#85. To: hammerdown (#83)
#86. To: Calamity, lodwick (#81)
#87. To: hammerdown (#86)
a couple good interviews of Sen. Gravel from the non-leftist view:
#88. To: christine (#85)
(Edited)
I'll try to get back here more often.
#89. To: Calamity (#87)
They're good. Not the pre-scripted progressive POV, that's for sure.
#90. To: hammerdown (#89)
They're good. Not the pre-scripted progressive POV, that's for sure.
#91. To: Calamity (#90)
Read it all; one is free to accept or reject what they like.
so many want to put themselves in a box and hang a sign around their neck that shows that they 'belong' to this or that partisanship. what a waste of time.
#92. To: Calamity (#90)
#93. To: hammerdown (#91)
imho, Mike's a good guy. sure could've used more like him in congress since he left. And like Ron Paul, he recognizes the folly of this country's lost vision and is attempting to express that to everyone he can.
#94. To: aristeides (#92)
Read Daniel Ellsberg's Secrets. It presents a very favorable picture of Gravel, as the one senator who dared to reveal the Pentagon Papers.
#95. To: PnbC (#36)
Those who hate Jews per se will have to come to terms that Justin Raimondo is a dyed in the wool Jew lover.
#96. To: PnbC, *Justin Raimondo* (#36)
Ron Paul for President
#97. To: Eoghan (#62)
I wouldn't call him a populist..as it had its routes from 1930's Jewish socialist movement grown out during the Dust Bowl.
#98. To: PnbC (#63)
When goods and people no longer cross boarders, soldiers and tanks will.
#99. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#97)
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#100. To: Eoghan (#99)
#101. To: All (#99)
http://www.thejewishadvocate.com/this_weeks_issue/campus/?content_id=2631
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#102. To: Eoghan (#99)
Sitting in her office, Nora, a handsome woman with long, curly, salt-and-pepper hair, explains the project is designed to explore and honor the unlikely bond between her grandmother, the Orthodox Jewish songwriter and Yiddish poet, and her father, the Oklahoma Christian troubadour.
#103. To: Calamity (#93)
#104. To: hammerdown (#86)
MP3 here. (58:54)
#105. To: hammerdown (#103)
(Edited)
No problem. There seems, or seemed, to be a growing interest in a possible Paul/Gravel ticket among certain antiwar groups but it's likely more wishful thinking than anything else. I don't really see an avenue for it, in a third party sense, to herd enough cats to make it possible. It'd be nice, but... the philosophical clash would be a huge hurdle.
#106. To: hammerdown. Calamity. all (#103)
#107. To: lodwick (#106)
Trust me, I am a BIG fan of Mike Gravel - imo, he kicked ass in the first debate,
#108. To: lodwick (#106)
Another cover of Ohio, with more pics...
#109. To: All (#108)
Wow
#110. To: Calamity (#105)
I don't remember who said that, either, but it sounds familiar.
#111. To: lodwick (#106)
#112. To: hammerdown. Calamity. all peace lovers here (#111)
#113. To: lodwick (#112)
#114. To: lodwick (#112)
#115. To: hammerdown (#113)
Ron is going to be on "This Week", this sunday. : )
#116. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#98)
If we slapped a well-deserved tariff on Mexican goods, do you really think that the all-powerful Mexican Army would send troops and tanks across the border?
From Two Party System... ...to Two Family System.
#117. To: hammerdown (#111)
Kick out the Jams
#118. To: Calamity (#114)
Was thinking about contacting the local theater to see if they would bring the play VOICES IN CONFLICT here.
#119. To: lodwick (#71)
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