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Title: Scholars Recommend Dividing Iraq Into 3
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The Guardian
URL Source: http://www.guardian.co.uk/worldlatest/story/0,,-6760231,00.html
Published: Jul 5, 2007
Author: BARRY SCHWEID
Post Date: 2007-07-05 18:28:06 by Eoghan
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With President Bush's war strategy clouded by limited results and mounting casualties, two scholars are proposing a partition plan that would divide Iraq into three main regions. The authors, Edward P. Joseph of Johns Hopkins School of Advanced International Studies and Michael O'Hanlon, senior fellow at the Brookings Institution, are hoping to draw the attention of Bush administration policymakers. They are circulating their suggestions within the Bush administration. Sen. Joseph Biden of Delaware, who is a Democratic presidential candidate and chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, has sought for months to attract support for a partition plan he formulated with Leslie Gelb, former head of the private Council on Foreign Relations. It would establish a federal system of government in Iraq. The idea has gained some attention in Congress but has not been embraced by the Bush administration. ``The time may be approaching when the only hope for a more stable Iraq is a soft partition of the country,'' the report by Joseph and O'Hanlon said. Administration strategy is geared toward building up a strong central government. But U.S. public support is declining, and according to some observers, Iraq may be on the verge of civil war. A major assessment of policy is expected in September. In the meantime, there have been proposals for withdrawal of U.S. troops from Iraq, now numbering about 157,000. The Pentagon says more than 3,500 U.S. troops have died since the beginning of the war in March 2003 that toppled Iraqi President Saddam Hussein. Under the plan, Iraqis would divide the country into three main regions. Each would assume primary responsibility for its own security and governance, as Iraqi Kurds already have in Kurdistan. ``Creating such a structure could prove to be difficult and risky,'' the report said. ``However, when measured against the alternatives - continuing to police an ethnic-sectarian war, or withdrawing and allowing the conflict to escalate - the risks of soft partition appear more acceptable.'' Joseph said in an interview Tuesday: ``We have got to find a way through.'' He said the time had come to decide whether the strategy of promoting a strong central government in Baghdad made sense. ``The vision we put forward is not a prescription for immediate withdrawal,'' Joseph said. ``It does involve substantial commitments of U.S. troops.'' ``However,'' he added, ``we anticipate a substantial reduction in U.S. casualties.'' The proposal would require the acquiescence of major political factions in Iraq. There would be substantial, voluntary movement in mixed, volatile areas. For instance, Saddam and his predecessors deliberately settled Arab Shiites and Sunnis in Kirkuk to disadvantage the Kurds, Joseph said. Arabs settled there have expressed willingness to move out if they are provided with housing and a livelihood elsewhere. In Baghdad, rather than keeping vulnerable minorities in tense parts of the capital, Joseph said, ``It might make sense to move them voluntarily to places where they would be safer.'' Among the Shiites, Abdul-Aziz al-Hakim of the Supreme Islamic Council has called for a Shiite region for years. But Muqtada al-Sadr and others in the Shiite leadership oppose it, as do the major Sunni politicians. The three main spheres proposed in the report would be Shiite, Sunni and Kurdistan. The Kurds already control Kurdistan. --- Associated Press Writer Robert Reid in Baghdad contributed to this report.
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#1. To: All, *US is Proxy State For Israel* (#0)
Yep, no one listens to what Kissinger says ;)
this crapola isnt anything new.. this has been what they planned from the beginning. of course the Kurds get the oil rich north.. paybacks.. just waiting for the blowback.
They want to combine three nations in North America, and divide Iraq into three separate ones. How ironic.
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Too funny.
Oh, we are all as surprised as Ralph Peters. Ron Paul for President
LOL! Right. As if this was NEVER THE PLAN. And make Baghdad into a City State, separate from but shared by all three partions of Iraq. That puts Baghdad out of the control of all Iraqis, while Baghdad remains the government of Iraq, and turns the nation of Iraq into a client state of the US and Britian. Boy, this one is hard to figure out. Now, if they only get to where they can use the Embassy HAHAHA!!!
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.
I forgot about those maps, robin. Thanks. Sure is gonna irritate the Turks, Iran, and Sryia. Guess maybe we begin to see why another war, or, two, or, more, will be neccessary. Hard to redraw the maps of sovereign nations without lots and lots and lots of troops and bombs. Oh, and profits. Never forget the profits.
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.
That is the explicit message of a paper by Fred Kagan of the American Enterprise Institute and Michael O'Hanlon of the Brookings Institution calling for an increase in ground forces by at least 100,000. Both co-authors have labored for years as propagandists for the occupation of Iraq. Kagan was the genius behind the paper published in January justifying an escalation in U.S. combat involvement in Iraq by 50,000 troops. O'Hanlon, a Democrat who appears to be positioning himself for a position in the next administration, insists that the United States cannot withdrawal from Iraq, regardless of how obviously the adventure is failing. The list of Islamic countries which Kagan and O'Hanlon suggest the United States should prepare to invade and occupy begins with Iran. That recommendation can only be called truly bizarre. Dick Cheney has more or less openly advocated the military option against Iran, but even he does not advocate trying to occupy a country three times bigger than Iraq and fully mobilized to resist a U.S. invasion. Kagan and O'Hanlon insist, however, that the occupation option cannot be ruled out, invoking a scenario in which Iran would go to war against Israel "as it also neared completion of a nuclear weapon". Aggressive war by Iran before it even has a nuclear weapon? Even in the magical world of national security scenarios, the illogic of that one is spectacular. Kagan and O'Hanlon devote most of their attention to what they call the "Pakistani collapse scenario". That refers to the possibility that Pakistan could degenerate into civil war between secular authorities and jihadists and suggest the United States would then have to be ready to prevent "extremists" from gaining access to Pakistan's nuclear weapons. The objective of such an occupation, they write, would to "restore order".
LOL! I know that this is not a laughing matter.... but, well, yes, it is. Did you see the post about the US embassy in Iraq? The big, fancy, expensive new one? The one that has so many construction related problems? So many problems that it can not be used?! (Assuming, of course, that the post is true!) It is an exact parrallel with what you have written here; incompetent men trying to rule the world! The only real problem with this is the countless numbers of men (and women) who will follow such fools! WHEREVER THEY GO!!! And when you come right down to the nitty gritty, that little ol problem they mention, you know, "Pakistani collapse scenario", just may be something else that is waiting to bite them in their lazy, fat asses. Well, I guess not exactly theirs, just the asses of the 'volunteers.' "Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy." (Quoted by Monika Jensen-Stevenson, Kiss the Boys Goodbye)
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.
The idea has gained some attention in Congress but has not been embraced by the Bush administration.
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#2. To: Eoghan (#0)
#3. To: Eoghan (#1)
#4. To: Eoghan (#0)
the acquiescence of major political factions in Iraq. There would be substantial, voluntary movement in mixed, volatile areas.
#5. To: Eoghan, *Redrawing the Middle-East* (#0)
#6. To: Eoghan (#0)
The idea has gained some attention in Congress but has not been embraced by the Bush administration.
#7. To: robin (#5)
#8. To: richard9151 (#6)
http://mparent7777-2.blogspot.com/2007_04_19_archive.html
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
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"Pakistani collapse scenario".
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