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Title: Fox News: Universal health care breeds terrorists.
Source: Think Progress
URL Source: http://thinkprogress.org/
Published: Jul 5, 2007
Author: National Review Online columnist Jerry B
Post Date: 2007-07-05 19:59:24 by Zipporah
Keywords: None
Views: 396
Comments: 13

Fox News: Universal health care breeds terrorists. «

Today on Fox News’s Your World With Neil Cavuto, National Review Online columnist Jerry Bowyer attacked Michael Moore’s movie SiCKO and its positive portrayal of the health care in countries such as Britain and France. He argued that national health care systems are breeding grounds for terrorists because they are “bureaucratic.” “I think the terrorists have shown over and over again…they’re very good at gaming the system with bureaucracies,” said Bowyer.

Bowyer also claimed that in the United States, “if one of your doctors is spending all the time online reading Osama bin Laden fatwas, someone’s going to notice that.”

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#1. To: Zipporah (#0)

“if one of your doctors is spending all the time online reading Osama bin Laden fatwas, someone’s going to notice that.”

Do I need a prescription for a hair shirt?

"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-07-05   20:01:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

.. dunno.. though might give you a hairball :P

Zipporah  posted on  2007-07-05   20:08:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I always wanted to be a terrorist, but I didn't have ten years to waste going to college.

Esso  posted on  2007-07-05   20:09:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

II. ADL Approach to Hate Crime Legislation

1. Institutional Vandalism

1. A person commits the crime of institutional vandalism by knowingly vandalizing, defacing or otherwise damaging:
   
   
   1. Any church, synagogue or other building, structure or place used for religious worship or other religious purpose;
      
      

   2. Any cemetery, mortuary or other facility used for the purpose of burial or memorializing the dead;
      
      

   3. Any school, educational facility or community center;
      
      

   4. The grounds adjacent to, and owned or rented by, any institution, facility, building, structure or place described in subsections (i), (ii) or (iii) above; or
      
      

   5. Any personal property contained in any institution, facility, building, structure, or place described in subsections (i), (ii) or (iii) above.
      
      

2. Institutional vandalism is punishable as follows:
   
   
   1. Institutional vandalism is a ______ misdemeanor if the person does any act described in subsection A which causes damage to, or loss of, the property of another.
      
      

   2. Institutional vandalism is a ______ felony if the person does any act described in Subsection A which causes damage to, or loss of, the property of another in an amount in excess of five hundred dollars.
      
      

   3. Institutional vandalism is a ______ felony if the person does any act described in Subsection A which causes damage to, or loss of, the property of another in an amount in excess of one thousand five hundred dollars.
      
      

   4. Institutional vandalism is a ______ felony if the person does any act described in Subsection A which causes damage to, or loss of, the property of another in an amount in excess of five thousand dollars.
      
      

3. In determining the amount of damage to, or loss of, property, damage includes the cost of repair or replacement of the property that was damaged or lost.
   
   

2. Bias-Motivated Crimes

1. A person commits a Bias-Motivated Crime if, by reason of the actual or perceived race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation or gender of another individual or group of individuals, he violates Section ______ of the Penal code (insert code provisions for criminal trespass, criminal mischief, harassment, menacing, intimidation, assault, battery and or other appropriate statutorily proscribed criminal conduct).
   
   

2. A Bias-Motivated Crime under this code provision is a ______ misdemeanor/ felony (the degree of criminal liability should be at least one degree more serious than that imposed for commission of the underlying offense).
   
   

3. Civil Action for Institutional Vandalism and Bias-Motivated Crimes

1. Irrespective of any criminal prosecution or result thereof, any person incurring injury to his person or damage or loss to his property as a result of conduct in violation of Sections 1 or 2 of this Act shall have a civil action to secure an injunction, damages or other appropriate relief in law or in equity against any and all persons who have violated Sections 1 or 2 of this Act.
   
   

2. In any such action, whether a violation of Sections 1 or 2 of this Act has occurred shall be determined according to the burden of proof used in other civil actions for similar relief.
   
   

3. Upon prevailing in such civil action, the plaintiff may recover:
   
   
   1. Both special and general damages, including damages for emotional distress;
      
      

   2. Punitive damages; and/or
      
      

   3. Reasonable attorney fees and costs.
      
      

4. Notwithstanding any other provision of the law to the contrary, the parent(s) or legal guardian(s) of any unemancipated minor shall be liable for any judgment rendered against such minor under this Section.
   
   

4. Bias Crime Reporting and Training

1. The state police or other appropriate state law enforcement agency shall establish and maintain a central repository for the collection and analysis of information regarding Bias-Motivated Crimes as defined in Section 2. Upon establishing such a repository, the state police shall develop a procedure to monitor, record, classify and analyze information relating to crimes apparently directed against individuals or groups, or their property, by reason of their actual or perceived race, color, religion, national origin, sexual orientation or gender. The state police shall submit its procedure to the appropriate committee of the state legislature for approval.
   
   

2. All local law enforcement agencies shall report monthly to the state police concerning such offenses in such form and in such manner as prescribed by rules and regulations adopted by state police. The state police must summarize and analyze the information received and file an annual report with the governor and the appropriate committee of the state legislature.
   
   

3. Any information, records and statistics collected in accordance with this subsection shall be available for use by any local law enforcement agency, unit of local government, or state agency, to the extent that such information is reasonably necessary or useful to such agency in carrying out the duties imposed upon it by law. Dissemination of such information shall be subject to all confidentiality requirements otherwise imposed by law.
   
   

4. The state police shall provide training for police officers in identifying, responding to, and reporting all Bias-Motivated Crimes.
   
   

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"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-07-05   20:14:30 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Abe Foxman offered me $50 to slit your tires.

Esso  posted on  2007-07-05   20:19:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You're about the ninth or tenth person that's told me that. Kooky.

"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-07-05   20:23:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

He argued that national health care systems are breeding grounds for terrorists because they are “bureaucratic.” “I think the terrorists have shown over and over again…they’re very good at gaming the system with bureaucracies,” said Bowyer.

that's as idiotic a statement as i've ever heard.

christine  posted on  2007-07-05   20:57:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

.. thats why I put it under neocon nuttery.. these people are loons..

Zipporah  posted on  2007-07-05   21:00:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I'd argue global capitalism breeds empire.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-07-05   21:06:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

About Jerry Bowyer who was interviewed by Cavuto. Here's his book complete with reviews. Yes my friends, the man is a full blown asshat.

The Bush Boom: How a Misunderestimated President Fixed a Broken Economy (Paperback)

by Jerry Bowyer (Author)

******

REVIEWS

*******

By Alice (Wonderland) - See all my reviews

Finally! A book that proves the existence of an alternate universe. Obviously, a rip in the space/time continuum between this universe and the other universe where Bush is presiding over a 'boom economy opened up and this book fell through. Can there be ANY other explanation?

Faith-Based Economics, October 23, 2003

By Samantha Murky "Poet" (Boston, MA USA) - See all my reviews

The author writes: "It's not as though this man didn't learn things from people who are alive today, or who taught during the reformation era; it's just that his vantage point, his center of gravity was somewhere around 325 AD. So is mine."

That pretty much says it all. This book, which I skimmed in a local Christian bookstore, is full of delusional, ideology-driven lies and half-truths. I you think people out of work and a loss of job s is good, and making the rich richer and the poor poorer (off point of view for a modern Christian, but not for a 325 A.D. Christian), then you'll love this book. Otherwise, ignore this fruitcake.

At last, our 8 year nightmare of national prosperity is over, October 24, 2003

By Joseph H. Dougherty (Ann Arbor, MI USA) - See all my reviews

I think that "delusional" is too kind here. There has indeed been a Bush boom, but it has been confined to the small group already the best off in American society. As he heads on to have a net loss in jobs during his term, as his ill- conceived adventure in Iraq allows bin Laden to go free and inflames hatred for America, and as his domestic policies erode forty years of bipartisan progress Bush has created a "boom" indeed--unfortunately, it is the "boom" of the economy and security of America imploding.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-07-05   21:23:40 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Oh the bureaucracy!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hindenburg_disaster

Ron Paul for President

robin  posted on  2007-07-05   21:28:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

If he'd just said "Universal health care provides a bigger boost to darkie's reproduction that whitey's, and at whitey's expense" he'd be spot on.

The same can be said for pretty much anything "universal."

Q: How many Jews does it take to change a lightbulb?
A: Lightbulb, Schmightbulb! You'd think it was the end of the world. Hold your head up---you look like a wounded putz!

Tauzero  posted on  2007-07-06   0:20:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Bowyer doesn’t understand that the system he claims is being gamed is what the people of that nation want. The problem isn't gaming, it's the tide of radical immigrants who are welcomed into nations like Scotland. They who have no connection to its culture, nor do they want one. But to say that would be to go against a principle neocon tenant, and that isn't allowed.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-07-06   6:46:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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