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Title: NY Times editorial - The Road Home-It is time for the United States to leave Iraq, without any more delay than the Pentagon needs to organize an orderly exit
Source: NY Times
URL Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/07/08/o ... =&oref=slogin&pagewanted=print
Published: Jul 8, 2007
Author: NY Times
Post Date: 2007-07-08 11:30:00 by Zipporah
Keywords: None
Views: 187
Comments: 16

The Road Home

It is time for the United States to leave Iraq, without any more delay than the Pentagon needs to organize an orderly exit.

Like many Americans, we have put off that conclusion, waiting for a sign that President Bush was seriously trying to dig the United States out of the disaster he created by invading Iraq without sufficient cause, in the face of global opposition, and without a plan to stabilize the country afterward.

At first, we believed that after destroying Iraq’s government, army, police and economic structures, the United States was obliged to try to accomplish some of the goals Mr. Bush claimed to be pursuing, chiefly building a stable, unified Iraq. When it became clear that the president had neither the vision nor the means to do that, we argued against setting a withdrawal date while there was still some chance to mitigate the chaos that would most likely follow.

While Mr. Bush scorns deadlines, he kept promising breakthroughs — after elections, after a constitution, after sending in thousands more troops. But those milestones came and went without any progress toward a stable, democratic Iraq or a path for withdrawal. It is frighteningly clear that Mr. Bush’s plan is to stay the course as long as he is president and dump the mess on his successor. Whatever his cause was, it is lost.

The political leaders Washington has backed are incapable of putting national interests ahead of sectarian score settling. The security forces Washington has trained behave more like partisan militias. Additional military forces poured into the Baghdad region have failed to change anything.

Continuing to sacrifice the lives and limbs of American soldiers is wrong. The war is sapping the strength of the nation’s alliances and its military forces. It is a dangerous diversion from the life-and-death struggle against terrorists. It is an increasing burden on American taxpayers, and it is a betrayal of a world that needs the wise application of American power and principles.

A majority of Americans reached these conclusions months ago. Even in politically polarized Washington, positions on the war no longer divide entirely on party lines. When Congress returns this week, extricating American troops from the war should be at the top of its agenda.

That conversation must be candid and focused. Americans must be clear that Iraq, and the region around it, could be even bloodier and more chaotic after Americans leave. There could be reprisals against those who worked with American forces, further ethnic cleansing, even genocide. Potentially destabilizing refugee flows could hit Jordan and Syria. Iran and Turkey could be tempted to make power grabs. Perhaps most important, the invasion has created a new stronghold from which terrorist activity could proliferate.

The administration, the Democratic-controlled Congress, the United Nations and America’s allies must try to mitigate those outcomes — and they may fail. But Americans must be equally honest about the fact that keeping troops in Iraq will only make things worse. The nation needs a serious discussion, now, about how to accomplish a withdrawal and meet some of the big challenges that will arise.

The Mechanics of Withdrawal

The United States has about 160,000 troops and millions of tons of military gear inside Iraq. Getting that force out safely will be a formidable challenge. The main road south to Kuwait is notoriously vulnerable to roadside bomb attacks. Soldiers, weapons and vehicles will need to be deployed to secure bases while airlift and sealift operations are organized. Withdrawal routes will have to be guarded. The exit must be everything the invasion was not: based on reality and backed by adequate resources.

The United States should explore using Kurdish territory in the north of Iraq as a secure staging area. Being able to use bases and ports in Turkey would also make withdrawal faster and safer. Turkey has been an inconsistent ally in this war, but like other nations, it should realize that shouldering part of the burden of the aftermath is in its own interest.

Accomplishing all of this in less than six months is probably unrealistic. The political decision should be made, and the target date set, now.

The Fight Against Terrorists

Despite President Bush’s repeated claims, Al Qaeda had no significant foothold in Iraq before the invasion, which gave it new base camps, new recruits and new prestige.

This war diverted Pentagon resources from Afghanistan, where the military had a real chance to hunt down Al Qaeda’s leaders. It alienated essential allies in the war against terrorism. It drained the strength and readiness of American troops.

And it created a new front where the United States will have to continue to battle terrorist forces and enlist local allies who reject the idea of an Iraq hijacked by international terrorists. The military will need resources and bases to stanch this self- inflicted wound for the foreseeable future.

The Question of Bases

The United States could strike an agreement with the Kurds to create those bases in northeastern Iraq. Or, the Pentagon could use its bases in countries like Kuwait and Qatar, and its large naval presence in the Persian Gulf, as staging points.

There are arguments for, and against, both options. Leaving troops in Iraq might make it too easy — and too tempting — to get drawn back into the civil war and confirm suspicions that Washington’s real goal was to secure permanent bases in Iraq. Mounting attacks from other countries could endanger those nations’ governments.

The White House should make this choice after consultation with Congress and the other countries in the region, whose opinions the Bush administration has essentially ignored. The bottom line: the Pentagon needs enough force to stage effective raids and airstrikes against terrorist forces in Iraq, but not enough to resume large-scale combat.

The Civil War

One of Mr. Bush’s arguments against withdrawal is that it would lead to civil war. That war is raging, right now, and it may take years to burn out. Iraq may fragment into separate Kurdish, Sunni and Shiite republics, and American troops are not going to stop that from happening.

It is possible, we suppose, that announcing a firm withdrawal date might finally focus Iraq’s political leaders and neighboring governments on reality. Ideally, it could spur Iraqi politicians to take the steps toward national reconciliation that they have endlessly discussed but refused to act on.

But it is foolish to count on that, as some Democratic proponents of withdrawal have done. The administration should use whatever leverage it gains from withdrawing to press its allies and Iraq’s neighbors to help achieve a negotiated solution.

Iraq’s leaders — knowing that they can no longer rely on the Americans to guarantee their survival — might be more open to compromise, perhaps to a Bosnian-style partition, with economic resources fairly shared but with millions of Iraqis forced to relocate. That would be better than the slow-motion ethnic and religious cleansing that has contributed to driving one in seven Iraqis from their homes.

The United States military cannot solve the problem. Congress and the White House must lead an international attempt at a negotiated outcome. To start, Washington must turn to the United Nations, which Mr. Bush spurned and ridiculed as a preface to war.

The Human Crisis

There are already nearly two million Iraqi refugees, mostly in Syria and Jordan, and nearly two million more Iraqis who have been displaced within their country. Without the active cooperation of all six countries bordering Iraq — Turkey, Iran, Kuwait, Saudi Arabia, Jordan and Syria — and the help of other nations, this disaster could get worse. Beyond the suffering, massive flows of refugees — some with ethnic and political resentments — could spread Iraq’s conflict far beyond Iraq’s borders.

Kuwait and Saudi Arabia must share the burden of hosting refugees. Jordan and Syria, now nearly overwhelmed with refugees, need more international help. That, of course, means money. The nations of Europe and Asia have a stake and should contribute. The United States will have to pay a large share of the costs, but should also lead international efforts, perhaps a donors’ conference, to raise money for the refugee crisis.

Washington also has to mend fences with allies. There are new governments in Britain, France and Germany that did not participate in the fight over starting this war and are eager to get beyond it. But that will still require a measure of humility and a commitment to multilateral action that this administration has never shown. And, however angry they were with President Bush for creating this mess, those nations should see that they cannot walk away from the consequences. To put it baldly, terrorism and oil make it impossible to ignore.

The United States has the greatest responsibilities, including the admission of many more refugees for permanent resettlement. The most compelling obligation is to the tens of thousands of Iraqis of courage and good will — translators, embassy employees, reconstruction workers — whose lives will be in danger because they believed the promises and cooperated with the Americans.

The Neighbors

One of the trickiest tasks will be avoiding excessive meddling in Iraq by its neighbors — America’s friends as well as its adversaries.

Just as Iran should come under international pressure to allow Shiites in southern Iraq to develop their own independent future, Washington must help persuade Sunni powers like Syria not to intervene on behalf of Sunni Iraqis. Turkey must be kept from sending troops into Kurdish territories.

For this effort to have any remote chance, Mr. Bush must drop his resistance to talking with both Iran and Syria. Britain, France, Russia, China and other nations with influence have a responsibility to help. Civil war in Iraq is a threat to everyone, especially if it spills across Iraq’s borders.

President Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney have used demagoguery and fear to quell Americans’ demands for an end to this war. They say withdrawing will create bloodshed and chaos and encourage terrorists. Actually, all of that has already happened — the result of this unnecessary invasion and the incompetent management of this war.

This country faces a choice. We can go on allowing Mr. Bush to drag out this war without end or purpose. Or we can insist that American troops are withdrawn as quickly and safely as we can manage — with as much effort as possible to stop the chaos from spreading.

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#1. To: Zipporah (#0) (Edited)

The bottom line: the Pentagon needs enough force to stage effective raids and airstrikes against terrorist forces in Iraq, but not enough to resume large-scale combat.

BS. Half-measures. Unless there is a total disingagement and a total withdrawal, we will still be drawn into the quagmire. This NY Times editorial is smoke and mirrors.

Check out my blog, America, the Bushieful.

Arator  posted on  2007-07-08   11:38:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Zipporah (#0)

this is coming 2-1/2 years after polls showed that a majority of Americans felt we should bring the troops home from Iraq. How responsive the news media is!!! now it can be spoken on a 'liberal' newspaper of the elite that at most 1% of our people will be exposed to and only then on the internet. but on tv this type of thinking is still taboo.

Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-07-08   11:39:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: Zipporah (#0)

Join the Ron Paul Revolution

Lod  posted on  2007-07-08   11:46:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Zipporah (#0)

The United States could strike an agreement with the Kurds to create those bases in northeastern Iraq. Or, the Pentagon could use its bases in countries like Kuwait and Qatar, and its large naval presence in the Persian Gulf, as staging points.

This statement alone is proof that US withdrawal from Iraq/ME is the LAST thing the NYT wants.

We will never leave the ME.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-07-08   11:48:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Zipporah (#0)

invading Iraq without sufficient cause,

I think they mean "invading Iraq without any cause at all."

Freeper motto: I read, but do not understand, I write, but make no sense, I think, but nothing happens.

YertleTurtle  posted on  2007-07-08   11:51:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Arator, ALL (#1)

This will play to the vast majority of Americans who are anti-war ..they wont look at the 'fine print'.. the fighting will stop.. they'll quit patrolling the streets IOW they'll quit being Iraq's police force.. the will withdraw troops but not all of course, the bases will still be there and the US will be in Iraq just as Bush said, Iraq will be like Korea..

Zipporah  posted on  2007-07-08   11:56:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Zipporah (#6)

withdraw troops but not all of course, the bases will still be there and the US will be in Iraq just as Bush said, Iraq will be like Korea..

Tempt the truth from the dragon????

Tell Israel we will withdraw all troops from Islamic Middle East and station them permanently in Israel.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-07-08   12:03:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Cynicom (#7)

Tell Israel we will withdraw all troops from Islamic Middle East and station them permanently in Israel.

Lotsa luck on that one.. although I did read an article sometime ago about a base in Israel.. I'll see if I can locate it.

Zipporah  posted on  2007-07-08   12:06:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Cynicom (#7)

http://www.thegoldenreport.com/asp/jerrysnewsmanager/anmviewer.asp?a=928

Here it is:


American Base In Israel.

Posted: Sunday, July 10, 2005
- written by jerry golden

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Many have written asking me about the Barry Chamish Report of the American Base here in Israel. Barry and I went there today and I can tell you that it is there. In fact, it isn’t even being hidden, but how would they hide such a thing anyway. What they are doing is saying it is a storage facility and the US is building it for Israel. But let me tell you that makes absolutely no sense. I don’t know how many buildings are already constructed or what they are for but we can make some good guesses. Look at these for example.

Start by looking from the left side, you will notice that there are 4 rows of buildings, the first row are buildings with only small doors, there are no large doors we can see for trucks so I don’t believe they are warehouses, those doors are for people to walk through. You will noticed the next two rows are the same and then the forth row are buildings for offices or storage they have larger doors.

Now look at another section of buildings being built,

These buildings are warehouses, the reasons I am showing you both is so you can see that this American base being built in Israel is going to be used for both housing and mass storage of military hardware.

Below is another shot at some more buildings, many look like they are for people and others for storage.

I want to show you a shot that Barry showed everyone the other day because I want to point out something else in that picture, not just the US flag but there is a date mentioned as well.

You will notice a sign to the left

It says this base will be completed on August 31st 2005. meaning to me that they are in a really big hurry. And we saw heavy equipment working over a very large area. And by the way we guessed this base will cover at least 25 square miles, I think possibly a lot more. It is also prime real estate about ten minutes from the International airport. And right along side the new interstate highway 6 Israel’s new tow road running from Ashdod to Haifa. As most of you may know Israel just built a new International Airport Terminal. Leaving a very large and very good Airport in tack. They tried to tell the public it would be used for domestic use, which makes no sense at all, for the few flights from Tel-Aviv to Eilat and to Haifa. But it would make a really great military base for really large military planes and it is only a few minutes away from this new base.

We could guess for ever what all these buildings could be used for, but I think it is obvious, some are barracks and others are warehouses, but let’s move on to some other things to see.

Below is a round Helicopter Pad with two underground bunkers near by.

These underground bunkers are complete with blast protection built near by. VIP’s (or top brass) will be able to come in by choppers and quickly be put underground. But they tell us this is just a storage facility.

You will notice what looks like a water tower in the background, well I don’t think so, to begin with there is plenty of water supply as the city of Petah Tikvah is within sight of this base so they have plenty of water, and there is no water lines leading to or from this large tank, Lets take a closer look at it as well.

With the high voltage-wiring going into this unit it is obviously a high power communications and radar system. Please keep in mind none of this is Israeli, it is all being built by the US Government and the labors other than Americans are Arabic.

This next picture when first looked at makes you think it is just a water way but look closer and you will discover it is the entrance to underground tunnels. If we can discover so many of these tunnels in just a few minutes just imagine how many there are in this whole base.

We traveled around the back side of the base and it was a long hot ride on some very rough roads to get these pictures. The back of the base runs right along with the original “Green line” being built by the US Government you wouldn’t expect anything less.

The fence or wall will be build on this foundation.

I took over 40 pictures but have tried to pick out the ones that show you what is happening. Now I will tell you what I think this is all about, for what that is worth.

Somewhere in the near future the US will have to go after Syria, and when they do Iran may react with nukes and Egypt could and most likely will join in the attempt to destroy Israel, again. The US is in a hurry to build this base in order to fill it with their military supplies and to have a base of operations to settle this Islamic problem once and for all.

But it doesn’t end there, the New World Order under the name of the EU and the UN will move into the picture soon after this thing kicks off. So even though this base is being built by the United States it is in fact a New World Order Base being put into place. Of course it is stripping Israel of its sovereignty with the help of Ariel Sharon, who I am sure by now has convinced himself that he is doing the best thing for the Jews of Israel. It’s also interesting that 99% of the population of Israel knows nothing about this base being built, not one story has been reported in any Israeli newspaper. No mention of it on the TV it is just being done very quickly and very quietly. What is so amazing is how quickly they can accomplish such a task these days.

There is one other possibility, and that is to house the tens of thousands of protesters who will fight the Sharon Disengagements, but I don’t think so, such a large base would not be needed, and certainly not all the warehouses.

It should also be noted that there are no US troops on this base at this time, but it is obvious that many soon will be. And for those in the US they haven’t heard any of this from the US Government either.

Please keep in mind this is not a news agency, but a Ministry and we are in great need to purchasing the larger vessel, and to keep the ministry here in Israel healthy. Please pray about your part in this Ministry.

Pray for the peace of Jerusalem, for our son Joel, and all the IDF soldiers. Pray for those who have come to fight the Islamic enemy. Pray for this Ministry and your part in it. Shalom, jerry golden

Zipporah  posted on  2007-07-08   12:09:11 ET  (11 images) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: all (#0)

Pass the Freedom Fries please.

Jethro Tull  posted on  2007-07-08   12:15:34 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: Zipporah (#9)

It should also be noted that there are no US troops on this base at this time, but it is obvious that many soon will be. And for those in the US they haven’t heard any of this from the US Government either.

Zip...

I saw those pics some time ago.

Only one thing is certain about that project, the US is paying for it.

The NYT is stating the very reasons that Israel PREFERS Americans be stationed in other countries, not Israel. US military in Israel is a magnet for terror/war or whatever, better someone else than Israel.

However to cover all possibilities as a last ditch defense, prepare for Americans in Israel.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-07-08   12:22:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Cynicom (#7)

Tell Israel we will withdraw all troops from Islamic Middle East and station them permanently in Israel.

i nominate you SoS. ;)

christine  posted on  2007-07-08   12:24:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Cynicom (#11)

However to cover all possibilities as a last ditch defense, prepare for Americans in Israel.

Join the Ron Paul Revolution

Lod  posted on  2007-07-08   12:29:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: lodwick, christine (#13)

Map

lod...

There are those, that shall remain unnamed, that refuse to spend a few bucks on a 3X4 wall map so that they might better envision the future.

Wild horses could not drag the names from me.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-07-08   12:35:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: Zipporah (#0)

so this is the famous liberal media, several years behind mainstream america

kiki  posted on  2007-07-08   16:34:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Zipporah, christine (#9)

*bump*

"The main purpose of the Council on Foreign Relations is promoting the disarmament of U.S. sovereignty and national independence and submergence into an all powerful, one world government." -- Rear Admiral Chester Ward Rear Admiral US Navy (retired), CFR member for 16 years, Judge Advocate General of the Navy 1956-60

Calamity  posted on  2007-07-10   11:31:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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