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Title: Pope: Other Christians Not True Churches
Source: AP
URL Source: [None]
Published: Jul 10, 2007
Author: NICOLE WINFIELD
Post Date: 2007-07-10 19:03:24 by innieway
Keywords: None
Views: 376
Comments: 24

LORENZAGO DI CADORE, Italy (AP) -- Pope Benedict XVI has reasserted the universal primacy of the Roman Catholic Church, approving a document released Tuesday that says Orthodox churches were defective and that other Christian denominations were not true churches.

Benedict approved a document from his old offices at the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith that restates church teaching on relations with other Christians. It was the second time in a week the pope has corrected what he says are erroneous interpretations of the Second Vatican Council, the 1962-65 meetings that modernized the church.

On Saturday, Benedict revisited another key aspect of Vatican II by reviving the old Latin Mass. Traditional Catholics cheered the move, but more liberal ones called it a step back from Vatican II.

Benedict, who attended Vatican II as a young theologian, has long complained about what he considers the erroneous interpretation of the council by liberals, saying it was not a break from the past but rather a renewal of church tradition.

In the latest document -- formulated as five questions and answers -- the Vatican seeks to set the record straight on Vatican II's ecumenical intent, saying some contemporary theological interpretation had been "erroneous or ambiguous" and had prompted confusion and doubt.

It restates key sections of a 2000 document the pope wrote when he was prefect of the congregation, "Dominus Iesus," which set off a firestorm of criticism among Protestant and other Christian denominations because it said they were not true churches but merely ecclesial communities and therefore did not have the "means of salvation."

In the new document and an accompanying commentary, which were released as the pope vacations here in Italy's Dolomite mountains, the Vatican repeated that position.

"Christ 'established here on earth' only one church," the document said. The other communities "cannot be called 'churches' in the proper sense" because they do not have apostolic succession -- the ability to trace their bishops back to Christ's original apostles.

The Rev. Sara MacVane of the Anglican Centre in Rome, said there was nothing new in the document.

"I don't know what motivated it at this time," she said. "But it's important always to point out that there's the official position and there's the huge amount of friendship and fellowship and worshipping together that goes on at all levels, certainly between Anglican and Catholics and all the other groups and Catholics."

The document said Orthodox churches were indeed "churches" because they have apostolic succession and that they enjoyed "many elements of sanctification and of truth." But it said they lack something because they do not recognize the primacy of the pope -- a defect, or a "wound" that harmed them, it said.

"This is obviously not compatible with the doctrine of primacy which, according to the Catholic faith, is an 'internal constitutive principle' of the very existence of a particular church," the commentary said.

Despite the harsh tone of the document, it stresses that Benedict remains committed to ecumenical dialogue.

"However, if such dialogue is to be truly constructive, it must involve not just the mutual openness of the participants but also fidelity to the identity of the Catholic faith," the commentary said.

The document, signed by the congregation prefect, U.S. Cardinal William Levada, was approved by Benedict on June 29, the feast of Sts. Peter and Paul -- a major ecumenical feast day.

There was no indication about why the pope felt it necessary to release the document, particularly since his 2000 document summed up the same principles. Some analysts suggested it could be a question of internal church politics, or that it could simply be an indication of Benedict using his office as pope to again stress key doctrinal issues from his time at the congregation.


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#4. To: innieway (#0)

http://www.spirituallysmart.com

noone222  posted on  2007-07-11   3:23:50 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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THAT's an interesting link....lots of interesting stuff on it...got this one from that

Papal Bonesman

http://www.remnantofgod.org/skullandbones.htm#ewtn

The Catholic Church is just another front for Judaism. I wonder if their plot is to present the Catholic Church as the 'antichrist' church, wear us all out with that, and their other front, Islam [invented by the Judeo-Catholic church], and then present us with the proper 'solution', Judaism! We are dealing with the 'Khazars' after all, who presented the three to their masses and went eeny-meeny-miny-moe, and voila! they chose Judaism [Talmudism]. Ye traverse land and see to make one proselyte and make him two-fold the child of hell as yourselves.

skull and bones, of course, is masonic, freemasonry being another front.

Bible says they would wear out the saints....they're trying their best.....

"World War III is to be fomented, using the so-called controversies; by the agents of the Illuminati operating under whatever new name; that are now being stored up between the political Zionists and the leaders of the Moslem world. That war is to be directed in such a manner that all of Islam and political Zionism (Israelis)i [note: someone else defined polital Zionism as CHRISTIAN ZIONISM, and that makes more sense!] will destroy each other while at the same time; the remaining nations, once more divided on this issue, will be forced to fight themselves into a state of complete exhaustion; physically, mentally, spiritually, and economically.

"Now can any thinking person doubt that the intrigue now going on in the near Middle and Far-East is designed to accomplish that satanic objective? Pike himself foretold all this in a statement he made to Mazzini on August 15, 1871. Pike stated that after World War III is ended; those who will aspire to undisputed world-domination will provoke the greatest social-cataclysm the world has ever known. Quoting his own words taken from the letter he wrote to Mazzini and which letter is now catalogued in the British Museum in London, England; he said:

"We shall unleash the nihilists and the atheists and we shall provoke a great social-cataclysm which in all its horror will show clearly to all nations the effect of absolute-atheism; the origins of savagery and of most bloody turmoil. Then everywhere, the people will be forced to defend themselves against the world-minority of the world-revolutionaries and will exterminate those destroyers of civilization and the multitudes disillusioned with Christianity whose spirits will be from that moment without direction and leadership and anxious for an ideal, but without knowledge where to send its adoration, will receive the true light through the universal-manifestation of the pure doctrine of Lucifer brought finally out into public view. A manifestation which will result from a general reactionary movement which will follow the destruction of Christianity and Atheism; both conquered and exterminated at the same time."..... The Illuminati and the Council on Foreign Relations http://usa-the-republic.com/illuminati/cfr_1.html

They are ALL just a pack of satan-worshippers at their core.

they lose....the gates of hell shall not prevail against Christ's church.

The Pope can take his BENT CROSS and sit on the pointy end.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-07-11   14:45:42 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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We are dealing with the 'Khazars' after all, who presented the three to their masses and went eeny-meeny-miny-moe, and voila! they chose Judaism

Of the three ... Judaism allows "USURY" ... that's why I think it was prefered.

They are ALL just a pack of satan-worshippers at their core. [And Fags].

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