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Title: NOT GUILTY! Tom Cryer and Becraft Best the DOJ
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Published: Jul 12, 2007
Author: Bob Schulz
Post Date: 2007-07-12 00:56:50 by christine
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Views: 437
Comments: 28
According to our court-watcher we can tell you the following: At the start of the trial the DOJ withdrew the felony charges, leaving two counts of willful failure to file. The Constitution and the law were allowed into the courtroom. Although Cryer was able to tell the jury what he read, he was not allowed to show the jury what he read. Cryer was also able to tell the jury what he did not read in the law because he could not find it in the law - the law that made him liable to file and pay the federal income tax. Tom did a good job of explaining to the jury what he read in the Brushhaber, Stanton and Eisner Supreme Court cases about the legal meaning of the word "income" and what he read in the Internal Revenue Code - everything but the law that required him to file. Tom had asked the IRS to show him the law that made him liable but the IRS did not respond. Larry Becraft's closing arguments were "flawless." Compared to the judges in the Simkanin and Schiff cases, Cryer's judge was "Cinderella." Congratulations Tom and Larry. We are looking forward to your full report. More details to follow on our website.
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#1. To: Pinguinite, BTP Holdings, Jethro Tull, richard1961, innieway, noone222 (#0)
BTTT
Press 1 for English, Press 2 for English, Press 3 for deportation Death of Habeas Corpus: “Your words are lies, Sir.”
One has to ask, So what does this mean?
Dying for old bastards, and their old money, isn't my idea of freedom.
That's great news! We're starting to see some successes. With Bannister and now Cryer it would seem there IS some precedent being set. Larry Becraft is representing another ex-IRS agent (forget what her name is, she worked in the Atlanta office) who, like Joe Bannister, came to the conclusion that there is no law requiring paying income tax... She's fortunate to have Becraft as her attorney - I think he considerably ups her chances of winning. That case should be getting under way soon. BUT, as myself and a couple of others have pointed out several times - the income tax is a result of the contract you have with the government called Social Security. If you don't want to pay the income tax the best solution is to get out of the Social Security system (which the government DOES admit is voluntary). Wouldn't it be better to quit paying AND not worrying about being in the position that the Browns or Joe Bannister or Cryer or whoever find themselves in??? For more information on contracts (and how you're involved in many of them whether you realize it or not) and how you're bound to the terms and conditions of the contract, listen to the George Gordon program currently airing on We The People Radio Network. The program started Monday the 9th, and the whole series is worth listening to - but today's show (Thursday the 12th) specifically talks about the income tax, as well as several other contracts most people have with the government...
If the bee disappeared off the surface of the globe then man would only have four years of life left. No more bees, no more pollination, no more plants, no more animals, no more man. Albert Einstein
Where have I heard THIS before? Plainfield, New Hampshire?
Wow...now all the jurists need to be interviewed and to what they heard and why they ruled in favor of Cryer. The court transcript needs to be published. The judge must be pissed off his courtroom 'got out of order.'
I'm still reviewing the brief and thusfar find little new in the way of argument. My personal opinion at this point is that the govt. was out lawyered by Becraft and Cryer in their ability to persuade the jury. (I've nearly finished the 84 page Motion to Dismiss). Jury trials leave the outcome of a trial somewhat in question as it relates to subsequent cases. (In my most humble opinion.) I'd like to have access to the entire case ... my question is really whether or not the SS System can attach the strawman/corporate entity to taxation. I haven't seen anything referenced in Cryer's brief regarding the SSN ... and wonder if the Court and the IRS/US Attorney were hesitant to let the cat out of the bag in this regard. I'll reserve my opinion until I have an opportunity to review transcripts of the entire matter.
Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say 'what should be the reward of such sacrifices?' Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship, plough, sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!”
listening to the MP3 of Gary Thomason that Uncle Bill posted on the other thread. it sounds like to me your hypothesis is correct.
simply one victory for the freedom and tax honesty movement. word will spread and this has to bode well for folks like Ed and Elaine Brown.
Sherry Peel Jackson
It means they'll get sued in civil court and have their assets seized.
The "Department of Defense" has never won a war. The "War Department" was undefeated.
You know so little about the subject matter, court jester.
People's financial fate, or even their VERY LIVES, can't depend on whether their attorney has the skills to 'outlawyer' the government. The law needs to be cut and dried...why should one citizen be set free, while others get shot between the eyes, based on the skills of their lawyer? Sorry...I have a REAL PROBLEM with that one...
This is tricky when there is no law.
It sure is...so how can the government execute the Browns when they were convicted of breaking a 'law' that doesn't exist?
Because we the people have "allowed" them to do so, I guess. Our servants, over time, have become our masters.
... why should one citizen be set free, while others get shot between the eyes, based on the skills of their lawyer? Sorry...I have a REAL PROBLEM with that one... Don't blame me I'm just the messenger. (And simply offering my opinion.) The lawyers ability certainly has an impact on any case, even though I agree with you that it (Federal Taxation) should be cut and dry ... and etched in stone ... in 4th grade english.
Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say 'what should be the reward of such sacrifices?' Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship, plough, sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!”
Would you be so kind as to provide me with a way to obtain the mp3 ? (I know you're probably still hung over from the Birthday Party (just kidding) ... but Pleeeeeeze !
Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say 'what should be the reward of such sacrifices?' Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship, plough, sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!”
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
It wasn't my intent to 'blame you'...I was just throwing MY opinion out there in response to the excellent point that you raised...sorry about that. :-)
Your opinion is of the highest caliber, because it's honest ... Nothing more is necessary to achieve contentedness
Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say 'what should be the reward of such sacrifices?' Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship, plough, sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!”
Thanx, but I'm a guy. Google the name...
The "Department of Defense" has never won a war. The "War Department" was undefeated.
Tax protesters invariably end up in jail and/or stripped of all their assets. I don't need to be able to quote case law chapter and verse in order to see the results. So a jury acquitted these guys. Doesn't mean the government won't just come back with different charges and/or a civil suit. In fact, I'd bet on it.
The "Department of Defense" has never won a war. The "War Department" was undefeated.
Yep, and Joe Bannister is just begging to be sued by going on TV and radio for years and years, spewing his anti-commie bullshit...
Generally, yes. Invariably, no. There have been some victories, it' just that we don't hear much (if anything) about them. That's the problem - we DO see the results and hear all about those cases. The corporate media, TheStateInc, and their controllers make sure of it. It's how they "keep us in line". The corporate media, StateInc, and their controllers also try their best to make sure we don't hear of the victories. Here's a couple of ideas on how to deal with the tax agency. I don't know if they've been tried - who knows, they might work:) Dear Internal Revenue Service: Enclosed you will find my 2007 tax return showing that I owe $3,407.00 in taxes. Please note the attached article from the USA Today newspaper; dated 12 November 2006, wherein you will see the Pentagon (Department of Defense) is paying $171.50 per hammer and NASA has paid $600.00 per toilet seat. I am enclosing four (4) toilet seats (valued @ $2,400) and six (6) hammers (valued @ $1,029), which I secured at Home Depot, bringing my total remittance to $3,429.00. Please apply the overpayment of $22.00 to the "Presidential Election Fund," as noted on my return. You can do this inexpensively by sending them one (1) 1.5" Phillips Head screw (see aforementioned article from USA Today newspaper detailing how H.U.D. pays $22.00 each for 1.5" Phillips Head Screws). One screw is enclosed for your convenience. It has been a pleasure to pay my tax bill this year, and I look forward to paying it again next year. Sincerely, If the bee disappeared off the surface of the globe then man would only have four years of life left. No more bees, no more pollination, no more plants, no more animals, no more man. Albert Einstein
Super-Post ... the IRS will be so happy to read it ! Don't tell em you have back-up in the event they decide to try trespassing.
Contemplate the mangled bodies of your countrymen, and then say 'what should be the reward of such sacrifices?' Bid us and our posterity bow the knee, supplicate the friendship, plough, sow, and reap, to glut the avarice of the men who have let loose on us the dogs of war to riot in our blood and hunt us from the face of the earth? If ye love wealth better than liberty, the tranquility of servitude than the animated contest of freedom, go from us in peace. We ask not your counsels or arms. Crouch down and lick the hands which feed you. May your chains sit lightly upon you, and may posterity forget that you were our countrymen!”
LOL, good one.
The "Department of Defense" has never won a war. The "War Department" was undefeated.
Funny stuff, Inni. I needed that laugh :)
#2. To: christine (#1)
#3. To: christine (#0)
#4. To: christine (#1)
#5. To: christine (#0)
Cryer was also able to tell the jury what he did not read in the law because he could not find it in the law - the law that made him liable to file and pay the federal income tax.
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#6. To: christine (#1)
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#7. To: christine (#0)
#8. To: noone222 (#7)
My personal opinion at this point is that the govt. was out lawyered by Becraft and Cryer in their ability to persuade the jury.
#9. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#3)
So what does this mean?
#10. To: innieway (#4)
Larry Becraft is representing another ex-IRS agent (forget what her name is, she worked in the Atlanta office)
#11. To: TommyTheMadArtist (#3)
One has to ask, So what does this mean?
#12. To: Indrid Cold (#11)
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#13. To: noone222 (#7)
My personal opinion at this point is that the govt. was out lawyered by Becraft and Cryer in their ability to persuade the jury.
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#14. To: who knows what evil (#13)
The law needs to be cut and dried...why should one citizen be set free, while others get shot between the eyes, based on the skills of their lawyer?
#15. To: lodwick (#14)
This is tricky when there is no law.
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#16. To: who knows what evil (#15)
It sure is...so how can the government execute the Browns when they were convicted of breaking a 'law' that doesn't exist?
#17. To: who knows what evil (#13)
The law needs to be cut and dried
#18. To: christine (#8)
listening to the MP3 of Gary Thomason that Uncle Bill posted on the other thread
#19. To: Eoghan (#12)
#20. To: noone222 (#17)
Don't blame me I'm just the messenger. (And simply offering my opinion.)
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#21. To: who knows what evil (#20)
#22. To: ghostdogtxn (#19)
Actually on this one I think she's right, although I don't think the defendant has any assets to speak of.
#23. To: Eoghan (#12)
You know so little about the subject matter, court jester.
#24. To: Indrid Cold (#23)
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#25. To: Indrid Cold, Eoghan, ghostdogtxn, TommyTheMadArtist, who knows what evil, Lodwick, Christine, Pinguinite, BTP Holdings, Jethro Tull, richard1961, Uncle Bill (#23)
Tax protesters invariably end up in jail and/or stripped of all their assets.
I don't need to be able to quote case law chapter and verse in order to see the results.
A Satisfied Taxpayer 
#26. To: innieway (#25)
#27. To: innieway (#25)
It has been a pleasure to pay my tax bill this year, and I look forward to paying it again next year.
#28. To: innieway (#25)
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