Mac didn't stand a chance after Rove got done with him in 2000.
Mac didn't stand a chance after he opened his mouth and opened his mouth and opened his mouth and opened his mouth and opened his mouth about his support for Bush.
And deservedly so. What I want to see is for him to lose his Senate seat. THAT would be fitting.
When a man who is honestly mistaken hears the truth, he will either quit being mistaken or cease to be honest.
Anyone who can say anything more positive about Bush/Cheney than "they should be executed humanely" has no business even thinking of running for president. McCain is just the first of many to go down in flames. Ron Paul may end up winning, just because he will be the last guy standing.
The GOP is going to go down in total flames next year. They know it, we know it, and now they are just figuring out who to throw to the lions.
I was a draft resistor during Vietnam, and Fonda embarrassed me, but she was on the side of the angels. One of my best friends, Mark Wefers, was along on that trip and did something stupid, which later got me arrested. He went on Radio Hanoi with Jane and said, "turn your guns around and shoot the real pigs." Meaning their officers. He might have been right, given the quality of officers in Nam, but it was stupid to say.
I prefer the Kerry resistance model. I spent time in the Portsmouth naval brig, bringing food and books and stuff to prisoners there, most of whom were deserters, and Kerry was a hero of mine.
Fonda is really only despised because she couldn't be drafted and even if she was a male, she was too rich to be drafted. And sitting on an anti-aircraft gun.
But she was right, McCain was wrong, Bush is wrong, Cheney is wrong, and the generals Bush hasn't fired for being right are also wrong. Time to drag these suckers out of the White House and dump them in SE Washington and let nature take its course.
Just by coincidence, I'm watching Streamers, a David Mamet anti-Vietnam diatribe. I've only seen a few parts of this before, but it rings true. I had black roommates who came back cured of racism, because they saw white guys treated just as badly as they were. Vietnam had an unplanned effect; they treated everyone like shit and got them killed equally, apart from the college kids.
Which is why I refused a college deferment, and a medical one. Both of which were legit.
It probably took some nuts for Kerry to sit there and testify before Congress, and the evil of Vietnam. Afterall, he's a Bonesman, and the oaths are for real. So, you do have to look at it in that respect. He's still here, they're all gone....if you prefer the Kerry model, why is he still alive...unlike JFK Jr.?
Kerry's a hired gun, only a token protest to a dishonest (s)Election...and now, almost castrated (where is he?)...Al Gore has shown more gonads than Kerry. Kerry is not the real family name, it's Kohn...
Kerry's a Catholic. I have no idea if he is part Jewish and I don't care. I met him twice at about the time he decided to run for president, and worked on his campaign for over a year. He's a good person.
You do know, I hope, that Jewish and Zionist are not the same things? When I lived in NYC, I had many Jewish friends who despised Israel. Liberals are not all commies. In Chicago, I have several Jewish friends who are just as anti-Israel as I am, and just as anti-war. Religion is not the issue. I hope you understand that.
But she was right, McCain was wrong, Bush is wrong, Cheney is wrong, and the generals Bush hasn't fired for being right are also wrong. Time to drag these suckers out of the White House and dump them in SE Washington and let nature take its course.
Mekons4 posted on 2007-07-21 0:10:16 ET Reply Trace Private Reply
Telling the awefull truth. Thanks Mekons
"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato
Yeah, I know all that...I didn't just drop off a turnip truck. I know Kerry's a Catholic, but he's still Skull and Bones...which comes first, the chicken or the egg? Very much like, am I a Jew or an Israeli?
Kerry could have raised a stink, he didn't....Gore got the same shaft, he didn't raise a stink, kind of raised a safe protest banner. Hillary's next...and she is indeed is selected for Presidentess....or what ever you'd call it. Marxism is her name. The funny thing is, we can't even drag the dollar long enough for Marx to do his hypnosis on the masses.
I just don't like Hillary much. I have no problem with her politics, apart from supporting the war. These clowns who are taking over our country are truly fascists and really close to being nazis, but there ain't no one in the Dem party who is even close to Marxism. Unless you've heard stuff about collective farms and five-year plans I haven't.
With a dead dollar and no recourse, what have you got. Universal health care would be affordable for all without the Fed Res system...Yes, Marxism, Mekon. The Birth....1913, same year as B'nai B'rith birth of the ADL. If there's a Hell, President Wilson's cowardice earned a first class ticket.
Hillary's wrath wouldn't be the fictional "Al Qaeda"...Like her husband - her wrath would be American resistance to the Soviet system. The militia movement was squashed by her husband. The Zionists set the whole thing up. Are Zionists not Trotskites, Leninists and Stalinists?...Be honest with yourself...
Take a fraction of the defense budget, or one year of Iraq, and universal health care is easy. Look at where your money is going. I prefer having my kidney stones taken care of, and my brother's mouth cancer, and so on, than pay for an optional war that makes no sense. The Bushies want to clobber the middle class, make us helpless and begging for jobs.
I spent the 90s talking to CEOs, during which time they were getting wildly rich. What was their major bitch? They couldn't keep good employees because someone else would offer them more money, free vacations to Europe, whatever. They want vassals. Bush has delivered. Marxism makes a LOT more sense than untrammeled capitalism. What Lenin and Stalin and Mao did was not Marxism. Read the books.
Even the term democracy is ridiculous. As someone pointed out, real democracy is two wolves and sheep voting on dinner.
Marx wrote in a time where there was no middle class. His major points are still valid, but obviously, his thesis that we are all peasants fighting an oligarchy is ridiculous. Um, well it was until USA 2007. I'm middle class, but I'm a peasant.
If you are fortunate enough to be rich, fine. I've been bankrupted by medical bills and job loss. Which is just what the Republicans want.
Obviously the Bush/Clinton Oligarchy work in tandem...eliminate the middle class...Sires and Serfs....I worked for a nationwide company where the upper management sucked in most of the contract monies, yet the underlings who actually wrote the proposals and won the work got nothing...no bonuses unless the client insisted.
I've been layed off for 2 months now. The company joke is because upper management was so incompetent that the client would be happier shopping elsewhere. Who gets the shaft, the dumb asses working hard to get the client's work done. Upper secret society hires another round of fools...the cycle repeats....
Comparing Clinton and Bush is just trying to excuse the anti-Clinton years. How many times did you get laid off in the 90s? Zero, I bet. Bush is the anti-Clinton. Democrats have always been better for the economy. Like they say, Republicans have to lie because otherwise no one would EVER vote for them.
Don't confuse the two parties. They are distinct. I have my complaints about the Dems, but basically, they're on my side and the Repukes HATE ME. And you.
Clinton is the best president we have had since at least Ike and probably FDR. I know the guy liked BJs, but so do I. I don't like fascism and burning the Constitution. They spent 8 years going after Clinton and all they got was a few BJs. FRetard City is wrong now, and they were wrong then. Admit it.
Wow. I thought she was just a horny chick looking to blow the president. Silly me. So, the Mossad wanted to bring Clinton down to help the Republicans, so that means they're the same party...help me here.
Don't confuse the two parties. They are distinct. I have my complaints about the Dems, but basically, they're on my side and the Repukes HATE ME. And you.
Clinton is the best president we have had since at least Ike and probably FDR
ROTFLMAO
two choices...
One, you are a shill for the phony two-headed coin.
Two, you , not the fat JAP, swallowed hook line and sinker.
There are NO other choices.
( btw, on the economy side, generally republican congresses put in place the lagging policies that create good results in later years the Dims take credit for....now both are your beloved Marxists)
If you are fortunate enough to be rich, fine. I've been bankrupted by medical bills and job loss. Which is just what the Republicans want.
Mekons4
" Will this serve to destroy the hated Western Civilization and all its institutions once and for all? We feel better in a nation we have severely weakened."
Let your Jew friends save your finances....they are the ones who profited from your job loss and Hoibie Yitzhak made millions from your illness.
I was a draft resistor during Vietnam, and Fonda embarrassed me, but she was on the side of the angels. One of my best friends, Mark Wefers, was along on that trip and did something stupid, which later got me arrested.
"which later got me arrested"
the passive voice intrigues me
Have you ever been responsible for anything or made the effort to better the lives of you and society around you?
Has the wail and sliding out of it always worked for you?
I was a draft resistor during Vietnam, and Fonda embarrassed me, but she was on the side of the angels. One of my best friends, Mark Wefers, was along on that trip and did something stupid, which later got me arrested. He went on Radio Hanoi with Jane and said, "turn your guns around and shoot the real pigs." Meaning their officers. He might have been right, given the quality of officers in Nam, but it was stupid to say.
How in hell would you know the quality of the officer corps? or a raw recruit for that matter? hate discipline hunh?
read it in "Stoned"?
I must admit, it seemed many n'eer-do=wells used the Jesus beards and the stoked on toke to pretend they were gurus of enlightenment.... smart and wise...
and have all the free sex, free drugs, free beer, and 24/7 party time while shitting in the park...
they are still trippin' on that same delusional garbage...and still spewing that same old " I'm really a real guru" and " Id ain't nevvuh been my fawht" and " Hey maaan, git a free toke, beer, girl, house, money...."
Clinton is the best president we have had since at least Ike and probably FDR
Don't confuse the two parties. They are distinct. I have my complaints about the Dems, but basically, they're on my side and the Repukes HATE ME. And you.
And a draft resistor to boot?????
Is a draft resistor the same as a draft dodger, which is more commonly used?
Is a draft resistor the same as a draft dodger, which is more commonly used?
I was a college student who refused a college deferral. I have flat feet, and I refused a medical deferral. I was a CO who refused a CO deferral. Tell me what you did, brave boy. I refused to take any deferral, and wrote FUCK YOU on every one of them. So what happens when YOU get drafted to fight a stupid war? Gonna just go along with it?
I at least understood that I had no special rights over people who couldn't get into college. And I didn't believe that flat feet should exempt you from service (I would have gone in a heartbeat during WWII). So wanna make more snide comments?
How in hell would you know the quality of the officer corps? or a raw recruit for that matter? hate discipline hunh?
read it in "Stoned"?
I must admit, it seemed many n'eer-do=wells used the Jesus beards and the stoked on toke to pretend they were gurus of enlightenment.... smart and wise...
and have all the free sex, free drugs, free beer, and 24/7 party time while shitting in the park...
they are still trippin' on that same delusional garbage...and still spewing that same old " I'm really a real guru" and " Id ain't nevvuh been my fawht" and " Hey maaan, git a free toke, beer, girl, house, money...."
that generation was really Generation FUKK up #1
I bet you had a fukin ball
Jeez, you really are stupid, aren't you? So you oppose this war, but think opposing Vietnam is somehow evil? I was right, you were wrong, deal with it, idiot. I could have dodged the draft easily, but I chose to oppose it. And I went to jail. What did YOU DO? Moron.
( btw, on the economy side, generally republican congresses put in place the lagging policies that create good results in later years the Dims take credit for....now both are your beloved Marxists)
Just another lying Gooper, aren't you? So Hoover et al were responsible for FDR? Even though he reversed their policies? Or Clinton didn't reverse Smirk Sr.'s policies. You really must have two attendants to remind you to breathe. Seriously. Or, in your case, three.
I had a broken Thompson submachine gun. ATF came and got me and wanted me to testify against Mark Wefers. What did you ever do in your miserable, worthless life? I spent weeks in jail, got beat to crap, because I refused to rat on anyone. You'd rat in heartbeat.
"I was a college student who refused a college deferral. I have flat feet, and I refused a medical deferral. I was a CO who refused a CO deferral."
You speak of all these "deferrals"...I wonder how you refused them unless you applied for them as they are not proffered without request. Perhaps you care to clear that up.
Also, did you or did you not serve in the military, that point is not clear.
Flat feet? Now that is something I have never understood as a military impairment.
And lastly the term boy, I really do appreciate that,makes me feel young again as I am nearing 80.
College...I will say you learned nothing about social skills, that void is apparent as we all read your postings.
Yes, they were proffered. They sent forms in the mail every month or two. Since I was a registered college student, they sent me the student deferral form. I wrote something rude on it and sent it back. Then came a bundle with medical and CO forms to fill out. I did the same thing. Then came the 1-A card.