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Title: University of Colorado Board Votes to Fire Embattled Professor Ward Churchill
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Published: Jul 24, 2007
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Post Date: 2007-07-24 20:40:04 by JCHarris
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http://FOXNews.com University of Colorado Board Votes to Fire Embattled Professor Ward Churchill Tuesday , July 24, 2007 BOULDER, Colo. — The University of Colorado's governing board on Tuesday fired a professor whose essay likening some Sept. 11 victims to a Nazi leader provoked national outrage and led to an investigation of research misconduct. Ward Churchill, who had vowed to sue if the Board of Regents took action against him, said immediately after the 8-1 vote was announced: "New game, new game." Three faculty committees had accused Churchill of plagiarism, falsification and other misconduct. The research allegations stem from some of Churchill's other writings, although the investigation began after the controversy over his Sept. 11 essay. "The decision was really pretty basic," said university President Hank Brown, adding that the school had little choice but to fire Churchill to protect the integrity of the university's research. "The individual did not express regret, did not apologize, did not indicate a willingness to refrain from this type of falsification in the future," Brown said. Churchill's essay mentioning Sept. 11 victims and Nazi leader Adolf Eichmann prompted a chorus of demands for his firing, but university officials concluded it was protected speech under the First Amendment. Brown had recommended in May that the regents fire Churchill after faculty committees accused him of misconduct in some of his academic writing. The allegations included misrepresenting the effects of federal laws on American Indians, fabricating evidence that the Army deliberately spread smallpox to Mandan Indians in 1837, and claiming the work of a Canadian environmental group as his own. But the essay that thrust Churchill into the national spotlight, titled "Some People Push Back: On the Justice of Roosting Chickens," was not part of the investigation. That essay and a follow-up book argued that the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks were a response to a long history of U.S. abuses. Churchill said those killed in the World Trade Center collapse were "a technocratic corps at the very heart of America's global financial empire" and called them "little Eichmanns." Churchill has said Eichmann was a bureaucrat who carried out policies like the Holocaust that were planned by others but was still responsible for his own actions. Churchill wrote the piece shortly after the attacks, but it drew little notice until 2005, when a professor at Hamilton College in upstate New York called attention to it when Churchill was invited to speak there. In the uproar that followed, the regents apologized to "all Americans" for the essay, and the Colorado Legislature labeled Churchill's remarks "evil and inflammatory." Bill Owens, then governor of Colorado, said Churchill should be fired, and George Pataki, then governor of New York, called Churchill a "bigoted terrorist supporter." School officials concluded Churchill couldn't be dismissed because he was exercising his First Amendment rights. But they launched the investigation into his research in other work. A faculty committee and an interim chancellor recommended Churchill be fired. When a second committee reviewed the case, three of its five members recommended a suspension. The other two said he should be fired. Churchill remained on the university payroll but had been out of the classroom since spring 2006, first because he was on leave and later because the school relieved him of teaching duties after the interim chancellor recommended he be fired. The lone no vote on Tuesday came from Regent Cindy Carlisle, who was not immediately available for comment.
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Long long overdue.
Churchill is a white man pretending to be an Indian, like Vine Deloria. Jr.
“When I am the weaker, I ask you for my freedom, because that is your principle; but when I am the stronger, I take away your freedom, because that is my principle.”-Louis Veuillot
this is the article in question: Some People Push Back: When queried by reporters concerning his views on the assassination of John F. Kennedy in November 1963, Malcolm X famously -- and quite charitably, all things considered -- replied that it was merely a case of "chickens coming home to roost." On the morning of September 11, 2001, a few more chickens -- along with some half-million dead Iraqi children -- came home to roost in a very big way at the twin towers of New York's World Trade Center. Well, actually, a few of them seem to have nestled in at the Pentagon as well. The Iraqi youngsters, all of them under 12, died as a predictable -- in fact, widely predicted -- result of the 1991 US "surgical" bombing of their country's water purification and sewage facilities, as well as other "infrastructural" targets upon which Iraq's civilian population depends for its very survival. [See The Secret Behind the Sanctions -- How the U.S. Intentionally Destroyed Iraq's Water Supply, by Thomas J. Nagy, The Progressive, September 2001.] If the nature of the bombing were not already bad enough -- and it should be noted that this sort of "aerial warfare" constitutes a Class I Crime Against Humanity, entailing myriad gross violations of international law, as well as every conceivable standard of "civilized" behavior [See Sanctions and War on Iraq: In 300 words, by Citizens Concerned for the People of Iraq, 17 Aug 2002] -- the death toll has been steadily ratcheted up by US-imposed sanctions for a full decade now [See Iraq Sanctions: Humanitarian Implications and Options for the Future, marking the 12th anniversary of sanctions on Iraq, 8/6/02, and the Campaign Against Sanctions on Iraq, a registered society at the University of Cambridge, England]. Enforced all the while by a massive military presence and periodic bombing raids, the embargo has greatly impaired the victims' ability to import the nutrients, medicines and other materials necessary to saving the lives of even their toddlers. All told, Iraq has a population of about 18 million. The 500,000 kids lost to date thus represent something on the order of 25 percent of their age group. Indisputably, the rest have suffered -- are still suffering -- a combination of physical debilitation and psychological trauma severe enough to prevent their ever fully recovering. In effect, an entire generation has been obliterated. The reason for this holocaust was/is rather simple, and stated quite straightforwardly by President George Bush, the 41st "freedom-loving" father of the freedom-lover currently filling the Oval Office, George the 43rd: "The world must learn that what we say, goes," intoned George the Elder to the enthusiastic applause of freedom-loving Americans everywhere. How Old George conveyed his message was certainly no mystery to the US public. One need only recall the 24-hour-per-day dissemination of bombardment videos on every available TV channel, and the exceedingly high ratings of these telecasts, to gain a sense of how much they knew. In trying to affix a meaning to such things, we would do well to remember the wave of elation that swept America at reports of what was happening along the so-called Highway of Death: perhaps 100,000 "towel-heads" and "camel jockeys" -- or was it "sand niggers" that week? -- in full retreat, routed and effectively defenseless, many of them conscripted civilian laborers, slaughtered in a single day by jets firing the most hyper-lethal types of ordnance. It was a performance worthy of the Nazis during the early months of their drive into Russia. And it should be borne in mind that Good Germans gleefully cheered that butchery, too. Indeed, support for Hitler suffered no serious erosion among Germany's "innocent civilians" until the defeat at Stalingrad in 1943. [See They Thought They Were Free: The Germans 1933-1945, by Milton Mayer (University of Chicago Press: 1966)] There may be a real utility to reflecting further, this time upon the fact that it was pious Americans who led the way in assigning the onus of collective guilt to the German people as a whole, not for things they as individuals had done, but for what they had allowed -- nay, empowered -- their leaders and their soldiers to do in their name. If the principle was valid then, it remains so now, as applicable to Good Americans as it was the Good Germans. And the price exacted from the Germans for the faultiness of their moral fiber was truly ghastly. Returning now to the children, and to the effects of the post-Gulf War embargo -- continued bull force by Bush the Elder's successors in the Clinton administration as a gesture of its "resolve" to finalize what George himself had dubbed the "New World Order" of American military/economic domination -- it should be noted that not one but two high United Nations officials attempting to coordinate delivery of humanitarian aid to Iraq resigned in succession as protests against US policy. One of them, former U.N. Assistant Secretary General Denis Halliday, repeatedly denounced what was happening as "a systematic program . . . of deliberate genocide." His statements appeared in the New York Times and other papers during the fall of 1998, so it can hardly be contended that the American public was "unaware" of them. Shortly thereafter, Secretary of State Madeline Albright openly confirmed Halliday's assessment. Asked during the widely-viewed TV program Meet the Press to respond to his "allegations," she calmly announced that she'd decided it was "worth the price" to see that U.S. objectives were achieved. The Politics of a Perpetrator Population As a whole, the American public greeted these revelations with yawns. There were, after all, far more pressing things than the unrelenting misery/death of a few hundred thousand Iraqi tikes to be concerned with. Getting "Jeremy" and "Ellington" to their weekly soccer game, for instance, or seeing to it that little "Tiffany" an "Ashley" had just the right roll-neck sweaters to go with their new cords. And, to be sure, there was the yuppie holy war against ashtrays -- for "our kids," no less -- as an all-absorbing point of political focus. In fairness, it must be admitted that there was an infinitesimally small segment of the body politic who expressed opposition to what was/is being done to the children of Iraq. It must also be conceded, however, that those involved by-and-large contented themselves with signing petitions and conducting candle-lit prayer vigils, bearing "moral witness" as vast legions of brown-skinned five-year-olds sat shivering in the dark, wide-eyed in horror, whimpering as they expired in the most agonizing ways imaginable. Be it said as well, and this is really the crux of it, that the "resistance" expended the bulk of its time and energy harnessed to the systemically-useful task of trying to ensure, as "a principle of moral virtue" that nobody went further than waving signs as a means of "challenging" the patently exterminatory pursuit of Pax Americana. So pure of principle were these "dissidents," in fact, that they began literally to supplant the police in protecting corporations profiting by the carnage against suffering such retaliatory "violence" as having their windows broken by persons less "enlightened" -- or perhaps more outraged -- than the self-anointed "peacekeepers." Property before people, it seems -- or at least the equation of property to people -- is a value by no means restricted to America's boardrooms. And the sanctimony with which such putrid sentiments are enunciated turns out to be nauseatingly similar, whether mouthed by the CEO of Standard Oil or any of the swarm of comfort zone "pacifists" queuing up to condemn the black bloc after it ever so slightly disturbed the functioning of business-as-usual in Seattle. Small wonder, all in all, that people elsewhere in the world -- the Mideast, for instance -- began to wonder where, exactly, aside from the streets of the US itself, one was to find the peace America's purportedly oppositional peacekeepers claimed they were keeping. The answer, surely, was plain enough to anyone unblinded by the kind of delusions engendered by sheer vanity and self-absorption. So, too, were the implications in terms of anything changing, out there, in America's free-fire zones. Tellingly, it was at precisely this point -- with the genocide in Iraq officially admitted and a public response demonstrating beyond a shadow of a doubt that there were virtually no Americans, including most of those professing otherwise, doing anything tangible to stop it -- that the combat teams which eventually commandeered the aircraft used on September 11 began to infiltrate the United States. Meet the "Terrorists" Of the men who came, there are a few things demanding to be said in the face of the unending torrent of disinformational drivel unleashed by George Junior and the corporate "news" media immediately following their successful operation on September 11. They did not, for starters, "initiate" a war with the US, much less commit "the first acts of war of the new millennium." A good case could be made that the war in which they were combatants has been waged more-or-less continuously by the "Christian West" -- now proudly emblematized by the United States -- against the "Islamic East" since the time of the First Crusade, about 1,000 years ago. More recently, one could argue that the war began when Lyndon Johnson first lent significant support to Israel's dispossession/displacement of Palestinians during the 1960s, or when George the Elder ordered "Desert Shield" in 1990, or at any of several points in between. Any way you slice it, however, if what the combat teams did to the WTC and the Pentagon can be understood as acts of war -- and they can -- then the same is true of every US "overflight" of Iraqi territory since day one. The first acts of war during the current millennium thus occurred on its very first day, and were carried out by U.S. aviators acting under orders from their then-commander-in-chief, Bill Clinton. The most that can honestly be said of those involved on September 11 is that they finally responded in kind to some of what this country has dispensed to their people as a matter of course. That they waited so long to do so is, notwithstanding the 1993 action at the WTC, more than anything a testament to their patience and restraint. They did not license themselves to "target innocent civilians." There is simply no argument to be made that the Pentagon personnel killed on September 11 fill that bill. The building and those inside comprised military targets, pure and simple. As to those in the World Trade Center.
Thanks for one of his op pieces...others inckuded bomb-making etc. I think he is too much a suspect in his wife's murder for my taste. Mental Rod was and is a fraud, uncredentialed fake, liar and bully. I personally know parents of children sent there and bullied by churchill... one girl was forced to buy his cigarettes all semester, by the case, or he would not sign off on her course schedule. Mental Ward Churchill is PRECISELY what is wrong with US Education.
I know nothing of this person other than this article you posted..
It took UC Boulder long enough...and I am still surprised as this is the first leftist I have seen disciplined except for a professor run out of the East to California for Union organizing :-)
Of course, I don't know whether Churchill's academic integrity is intact or not; if not, it's proper that he should go. As for the article posted above: I can find little or nothing with which to disagree. Revenge for one crime (U.S. foreign policy vis a vis the Middle East) is not justification for another (9/11). Still, the U.S. cannot affect to be surprised. We've been inviting such revenge -- begging for it, in fact -- for decades.
- - - - - - - - - - - ..nor I.. it basically just is saying it's our foreign policy that is the issue.
That, and -- more disturbingly -- that Americans like me (antiwar types) bear the guilt for not having overthrown our false leaders. And that may be true. I tell myself that I can't get that job done, and I expect that's true enough. But maybe the honorable thing to do is to die trying, rather than continue to live in comfort under the - - - - - - - - - - - one girl was forced to buy his cigarettes all semester, by the case, or he would not sign off on her course schedule. This stuff has to be thoroughly documented. Don't put up allegations such as this without back-up material. Otherwise, it's just insane crap. I can count on ZERO fingers, how many profs ever forced me to buy ANTHING by the case to pass a class - are you shitting us?
Got any citations for your insane accusations against Ward? I've met him several times and consider him a friend. I probably won't get an answer for a while with all this going on, but I copied will later refer your post to him marking it with your real name as you no doubt would want, just because I care. ;-) If you have anything you would like me to add to the e and snail mail I'm sending, do let me know.
Thesis: Official 9/11 story is an unproven conspiracy theory. http://911truth.org http://Justicefor911.org http://summeroftruth.org Probable-cause standards have been met for an unlimited investigation of unsolved crimes relating to the events of Sept. 11, including allegations of criminal negligence, cover-up, complicity or commission of the attacks by US officials and assets of intel services.
I don't know if he palgerized the other stuff - and it dosn't matter. He was villified for the above essay. No one had heard of the guy until he wrote this. The notion that the US gov. might not be a totally innocent V. the 9-11 attacks was considered unacceptable by the Colorado republican establishment. As far as I know, the actual facts of his essay were never discussed. The WTC were filled with many supporters of and benificaries of US Imperialism. The US gov has no clothes on in this. If they can call water treatment plants legitimate targets in Iraq, then the WTC towers are easily as well. Ward was fired for pointing out the utter hypocricies of US foreign policy. They hate us cause were free - They hate our freedom of speech.
"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato
Mental Ward Churchill is PRECISELY what is wrong with US Education. I heard he put students in a plastic shredder legs first !!!
"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato
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"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato
This is crap like I'd expect on fr or lp - just totally inane allegations, without any documentation of the charges, or inferences. Completely unworthy of this forum and its serious members.
A case of cigs is sixty cartons. I buy em wholesale at around $26/carton. So Ward's making her buy him a case of cigs for $780??? Quite a smoker.
"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato
Exactly. There was also a Jewish angle, “little Eichmanns;” the chosen probably own a copyright on that name. I feel sorry for the guy; the university probably had a committee to dig up “actionable” dirt on him. His firing was a foregone conclusion.
I'll wait until tomorrow to give you time to reply should you wish. Ward Churchill has written around 20 books and 100 articles with approximately 12,000 footnotes and citations. The "investigative panel" found seven instances of alleged mis-conduct after going over his body of work for quite a long period of time. Ward Churchill had accurate and documented info 99.9996% of the time whether you agree with his ideas or not. This investigation did not start untill after his well publicizied inflamatory remarks concerning 9-11. This is not about "integrity" its about silencing someone who says things that make people with small minds uncomfortable. The couldn't fire him directly for his speech, so they started a witch hunt. There are also charges from 2 groups of attorney and professors alleging misconduct by the investigative committee itself. The lawsuit should prove fasinating to watch.
Thesis: Official 9/11 story is an unproven conspiracy theory. http://911truth.org http://Justicefor911.org http://summeroftruth.org Probable-cause standards have been met for an unlimited investigation of unsolved crimes relating to the events of Sept. 11, including allegations of criminal negligence, cover-up, complicity or commission of the attacks by US officials and assets of intel services.
Yep - His plagerations were a witch hunt and AFAICT they stayed away from the meat of the matter. If we choose to live in a fairy tale land the end will not be a fairy tale.
"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato
Yes this is what it is. I have a home in Colorado and have watched this play out in it's revealing forms. Nobody (in republican party) wanted to address the important issues Ward brought to the table here. So they diverted.
"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato
Second that.
"If ignorant superstition is found on the side of the persecutors, still more amazing superstition is found on the side of the persecuted." -- Nesta Webster
Not true. He would have skated if this were the only issue. Before you start crying for Mental Ward look at his detailed history from sources other than his lying pen. Then take a hard look at his wife's death, his documented fraud, plagiarism, student and colleague intimidation and threats. He is a thug. Nothing more. This guy is a criminal all dressed up like Mr Cotter and playing to the rabid left and Crew for his salvation.
You evidently read only from the Guardian and leMonde and Rolling Stone. I educated myself on this creature , you do the same. I work so do your own research, or do not do it. It is nothing to me. I do not have a cushy free lunch stipend so I can sit around all day playing. Best regards.
Completely unworthy of this forum and its serious members. I'm fairly new back here and reading some of this crap almost made me turn tail and run. Why can people NOT see that no one ever questioned Churchill's ethnicity or accused him of any supposed "crimes" throughout his career until after his comments regarding 911. This whole thing just reminds me so much of Chief Ahenekew in Canada, where everyone was perfectly satisfied with his chiefdomship until he goofed up a little and co-opted the word "nazi" and made a few off the cuff disparaging comments about Jews ... then suddenly he was chopped liver. He lost his title and the tribe was practically forced to disown him over that one incident. Blind!! Irresponsible!!!
The lines in the sand are being drawn: for many of us it was the MIHOP events of 9/11 which triggered the madness in the ME. For others, it is smirk's latest XO allowing him to seize anyone's property who opposes his insane policies.
Sheesh, my first line in the sand goes all the way back to the murder of Gordon Kahl. But then you should just get a load of my sand, its got more lines than Lenno. Sometimes I wonder if I'll ever do something besides draw another line after they cross over each one. I'm probably not alone in that.
I read far more deeply then that. You are a sissy who would never tell your lies to Ward's face. You sneer online behind people's back like a vindictive old lesbian who's family loathes her. We will meet face to face someday. Then we will talk about some things said to me when you felt safe doing the keyboard commando routine. And if you remain civil, I am no monster, we will just talk as I can handle you verbally just fine as well as any other way of dealing with you. Your prissy stuck up attitude of vanity about your alleged intelligence should be crammed up where you sit on your pebble of a brain. And whether I do it or not is not important, as I am sure that someday somewhere someone will do this needed chore to you. I have a degree, I still work political activism in real life, and I spent nine years in the Army. I don't have to take your crap in real life, and in this forum, I can be more forthcoming in here about how I feel and in how I address you seeing how the Sally whose hind tit you sucked up to so deeply so long is nowhere near to burp and diaper your l'il brer self. And I will -- needless to say -- send Ward that E mail along with who you are and your attitude that there are way too many liberal people running the show in achedemia. Have a nice day.
Thesis: Official 9/11 story is an unproven conspiracy theory. http://911truth.org http://Justicefor911.org http://summeroftruth.org Probable-cause standards have been met for an unlimited investigation of unsolved crimes relating to the events of Sept. 11, including allegations of criminal negligence, cover-up, complicity or commission of the attacks by US officials and assets of intel services.
I don't think much of Rolling Stone either, but you [JCHarris] seem to post a lot of articles from Fox News, a neocon and Bush administration propaganda mouthpiece that makes not only the Guardian and leMonde, but even Rolling Stone look like models of depth and balance.
Hypocracy goes hand and hand with his vanity. I actually agree with many things he has expressed on LP in the year after my unfair banning, but I can't stand a legend in his own mind of this sort. His main blindness is that he is the only one so deeply enamored with himself. He is not anyone special, and someday he will wake up to this fact. He put's his pants on like everyone else, and will live then die with the world not much noticing, like everyone else.
Thesis: Official 9/11 story is an unproven conspiracy theory. http://911truth.org http://Justicefor911.org http://summeroftruth.org Probable-cause standards have been met for an unlimited investigation of unsolved crimes relating to the events of Sept. 11, including allegations of criminal negligence, cover-up, complicity or commission of the attacks by US officials and assets of intel services.
and the REAL, ferret, or is it HOWLIN or Dane or the reverend; all the same nazis wearing grunge, shows his true self ! Fuck you and your doppleganger Mental Ward Churchill !!
smelly cat.... and I thought you had changed...trough slurping bum living off a stipend for busting your ass sitting in a tree and then getting your lawyers to extort money for life from you.... Army? LMAO another Davy in the Navy BUM.
I knew from listening to you you had not changed, so spare me the guilt tripping. You are pregnant with bad intent, and it is you who has to prove your worth here, not me. I saw where you had posted on LP that you had been to the Nike Store on 5th Street and seen the incense cedar in front of the establishment. Why did do this? I never received a dime for tree sitting by the way. And the out of court settlement was not worth it when you consider the injuries I got from the fall. Spare me the spin about activists, their pay and motives. I assure you I have heard it all before and it doesn't invoke what you are trying to raise in me emotionally. Now, tell me, why are you articulating anti Semitic rhetoric in some of your posts in this account name? You are not anti Semetic. What is your game? You quit your previous account here, and came back here with an openly hidden account name that tells me plenty of your perception of how smart and savvy you take people as being here. You are more transparent then you think you are. And you are not generally trusted for damn good reasons. Keep up the crap, and you won't be here long. Settle down, relax and be a human being that treats and thinks of others like the regard you want others to show you, we all will get along just fine. Amusing posts and refreshingly more honest today. You have a nice evening now, you hear?
Thesis: Official 9/11 story is an unproven conspiracy theory. http://911truth.org http://Justicefor911.org http://summeroftruth.org Probable-cause standards have been met for an unlimited investigation of unsolved crimes relating to the events of Sept. 11, including allegations of criminal negligence, cover-up, complicity or commission of the attacks by US officials and assets of intel services.
Is that a proposition, and do you have the balls to say that to either of our faces? I am Michael McCarthy, known locally as Ferret Mike. The nick is not just an account name. I used 'ferret' first on Free Republic, then LP. I have gone back to using my real life nick name here. But, you knew that, or should be able to figure out that were I not who I say I am, people whould have figured that out a long time ago. You can see a picture of me when you click on my account name in here, and it is the same picture you find at http://myspace.com/ferretmike, a site I recently started to use casually.
Thesis: Official 9/11 story is an unproven conspiracy theory. http://911truth.org http://Justicefor911.org http://summeroftruth.org Probable-cause standards have been met for an unlimited investigation of unsolved crimes relating to the events of Sept. 11, including allegations of criminal negligence, cover-up, complicity or commission of the attacks by US officials and assets of intel services.
Really Howlin !!! Go oollect some more extortion money...and a forum? entertainment and diversion only ! The 60s really went out of the way to make you.
I expected the baiting. You really are quite predictable. Fix your typos, there is a function here to do this.
Thesis: Official 9/11 story is an unproven conspiracy theory. http://911truth.org http://Justicefor911.org http://summeroftruth.org Probable-cause standards have been met for an unlimited investigation of unsolved crimes relating to the events of Sept. 11, including allegations of criminal negligence, cover-up, complicity or commission of the attacks by US officials and assets of intel services.
I think he's starting to warm to the place, don't you Minerva? We may not need pounch to come here after Goldi bans him in his new nick at LP after all. Or at least for now. I'm pretty much done with my intake interview. I grade him as USDA grade one and a half KoOk material. Very useable once we pull that nasty tar doll off of his little bunnie paws he kicked his way onto. ;-D
Thesis: Official 9/11 story is an unproven conspiracy theory. http://911truth.org http://Justicefor911.org http://summeroftruth.org Probable-cause standards have been met for an unlimited investigation of unsolved crimes relating to the events of Sept. 11, including allegations of criminal negligence, cover-up, complicity or commission of the attacks by US officials and assets of intel services.
Brer's unstable. He never lasts long over here. He's following the same trajectory as last time. In a couple of more days most of his posts will be about how smart he is.
Bunch of internet bums ... grand jury --- opium den ! ~ byeltsin
When Badeye used this dodge he would just say "Do you own research (grin)", You are too wordy.
Bunch of internet bums ... grand jury --- opium den ! ~ byeltsin
True. I always picture him as having an applause .wav play on his box immediately after he posts. Being a legend in his own mind is a heavy burden, and he gets impatient when others don't hop to in recognizing the genius he wants others to believe he has.
Thesis: Official 9/11 story is an unproven conspiracy theory. http://911truth.org http://Justicefor911.org http://summeroftruth.org Probable-cause standards have been met for an unlimited investigation of unsolved crimes relating to the events of Sept. 11, including allegations of criminal negligence, cover-up, complicity or commission of the attacks by US officials and assets of intel services.
His insecurities don't come out over on LP the way they do here. I don't know why. Maybe he is actually angry about the anti-Israel stance of the site.
Bunch of internet bums ... grand jury --- opium den ! ~ byeltsin
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#3. To: JCHarris (#0)
On the Justice of Roosting Chickens
by Ward Churchill
12 September 2001
A supplement of Dark Night field notes, Pockets of Resistance no. 11
#4. To: Zipporah (#3)
#5. To: JCHarris (#4)
#6. To: Zipporah (#5)
#7. To: Zipporah (#3)
Some People Push Back: On the Justice of Roosting Chickens
Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under. -- H. L. Mencken
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#9. To: Zipporah (#8)
..nor I.. it basically just is saying it's our foreign policy that is the issue.
Reich regime.
Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under. -- H. L. Mencken
#10. To: JCHarris (#4)
I personally know parents of children sent there and bullied by churchill...
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#12. To: Zipporah (#3)
#13. To: JCHarris, zipporah (#4)
one girl was forced to buy his cigarettes all semester, by the case, or he would not sign off on her course schedule.
#14. To: All, lodwick, ferret mike (#13)
#15. To: tom007. FM. Zip. all (#14)
Ward Churchill bump
#16. To: All (#13)
one girl was forced to buy his cigarettes all semester, by the case,
#17. To: tom007 (#12)
Ward was fired for pointing out the utter hypocricies of US foreign policy.
#18. To: JCHarris (#4)
#19. To: Ferret Mike (#18)
Ward Churchill has written around 20 books and 100 articles with approximately 12,000 footnotes and citations. The "investigative panel" found seven instances of alleged mis-conduct after going over his body of work for quite a long period of time.
#20. To: Ferret Mike (#18)
ard Churchill had accurate and documented info 99.9996% of the time whether you agree with his ideas or not. This investigation did not start untill after his well publicizied inflamatory remarks concerning 9-11. This is not about "integrity" its about silencing someone who says things that make people with small minds uncomfortable.
#21. To: JCHarris (#1)
Long long overdue.
#22. To: tom007 (#20)
This is not about "integrity" its about silencing someone who says things that make people with small minds uncomfortable.
#23. To: Ferret Mike (#18)
I'll wait until tomorrow to give you time to reply should you wish.
#24. To: lodwick (#15)
This is crap like I'd expect on fr or lp - just totally inane allegations, without any documentation of the charges, or inferences.
#25. To: RidinShotgun (#24)
Why can people NOT see that no one ever questioned Churchill's ethnicity or accused him of any supposed "crimes" throughout his career until after his comments regarding 911.
#26. To: lodwick (#25)
#27. To: JCHarris (#23)
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#28. To: JCHarris, Ferret Mike (#23)
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You evidently read only from the Guardian and leMonde and Rolling Stone. I educated myself on this creature , you do the same.
#29. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#28)
"I don't think much of Rolling Stone either, but you [JCHarris] seem to post a lot of articles from Fox News, a neocon and Bush administration propaganda mouthpiece that makes not only the Guardian and leMonde, but even Rolling Stone, look like models of depth and balance."
#30. To: Ferret Mike, christine, Zipporah, ALL (#27)
And I will -- needless to say -- send Ward that E mail along with who you are and your attitude that there are way too many liberal people running the show in achedemia.
#31. To: Ferret Mike (#29)
#32. To: JCHarris, Minerva (#31)
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"smelly cat.... and I thought you had changed...trough slurping bum living off a stipend for busting your ass sitting in a tree and then getting your lawyers to extort money for life from you...."
#33. To: JCHarris (#30)
"Fuck you and your doppleganger Mental Ward Churchill !!"
#34. To: Ferret Mike (#32)
Keep up the crap, and you won't be here long.
#35. To: JCHarris (#34)
"Really Howlin !!! Go collect some more extortion money...and a forum? entertainment and diversion only ! The 60s really went out of the way to make you."
#36. To: Minerva (#34)
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#37. To: Ferret Mike (#36)
#38. To: JCHarris (#23)
You evidently read only from the Guardian and leMonde and Rolling Stone. I educated myself on this creature , you do the same.
#39. To: Minerva (#37)
"Brer's unstable. He never lasts long over here. He's following the same trajectory as last time. In a couple of more days most of his posts will be about how smart he is."
#40. To: Ferret Mike (#39)
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