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Title: A Pair of Liberals (Bush and Cheney)
Source: Sobran's
URL Source: [None]
Published: Jul 25, 2007
Author: Sobran hisself
Post Date: 2007-07-25 11:14:56 by ghostdogtxn
Keywords: Sobran, Shit
Views: 173
Comments: 14

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#1. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)

For this inspirational feat he is the twentieth century’s greatest President, to rank with Lincoln and Washington as symbolic figures for a nation to live by.”

It takes gall to write of FDR and Lincoln in the same paragraph as Washington.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-07-25   11:25:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Cynicom (#1)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2007-07-25   11:29:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: ghostdogtxn (#2)

Too bad we don't teach history in our schools anymore.

History in public schools has been "sanitized" for a long time.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-07-25   11:32:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Cynicom (#3)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2007-07-25   11:37:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: ghostdogtxn (#4)

pablum they were spoonfed

I have a much younger friend that teaches high school history.

He is given the text books that he "must" teach from and the guidelines therein.

So, he does all of that, plus he teaches what he has learned on his own since college. So far he has gotten away with it because he does teach the book as required.

Everything not in the book is verbal, nothing written but he hammers it into their heads in hope that some day they may well ask questions on their own.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-07-25   11:47:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Cynicom (#5)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2007-07-25   11:58:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)

your criticism of Sobran is on-target.

Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-07-25   12:02:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: Red Jones (#7)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2007-07-25   12:18:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: ghostdogtxn (#8)

Sobran is very intelligent and I used to really like him (20 years ago). But I've noticed the same things you have.

Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-07-25   12:32:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Red Jones (#9)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2007-07-25   12:36:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: ghostdogtxn (#10) (Edited)

I used to lump all conservatives together too (in a negative way). It's almost like a religion, this conservative/liberal republican/democrat thing. It's hard to step outside of it, but once you do, you realize what a farce the whole game is

I think Sobran's main point is still valid. I can't for the life of me see why Clinton-type Democrats and Bush Republicans even bother with the charade of pretending that they are philosophically worlds apart. They differ in details and have a "my club is better than your club" mindset, but when it comes to the actual policy of how things are run, there isn't any difference. If I were a liberal Democrat, Bush's policies would make him my favorite "conservative." And I really don't understand why Bush supporters would dislike Clinton, since he ran things (especially foreign policy) in more or less the same way, if somewhat more competently.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2007-07-25   14:25:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#11)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2007-07-25   16:20:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: ghostdogtxn (#10)

I think George Washington was very wise when he said 'the spirit of party is evil' in his Farewell Address of 1796. He was referring to the practice of what they called factions in those days which was the beginning of political parties.

Galatians 3:29 And if ye [be] Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.

Red Jones  posted on  2007-07-25   17:05:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Red Jones (#13)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2007-07-25   17:23:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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