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Title: Gonzales: "Not So Clear" That Waterboarding Violates Geneva Common Article 3
Source: TPM Muckraker
URL Source: http://tpmmuckraker.com/
Published: Jul 25, 2007
Author: Gonzales
Post Date: 2007-07-25 23:01:00 by Zipporah
Keywords: None
Views: 114
Comments: 9

Gonzales: "Not So Clear" That Waterboarding Violates Geneva Common Article 3

New vistas in humanitarian law from Alberto Gonzales: Waterboarding, the process in which a detainee is forced to believe he is drowning, may not be "beyond the bounds of human decency."

Senators Dick Durbin and Ted Kennedy pointed out that the executive order President Bush issued on Friday on CIA interrogations interpreting Common Article 3 of the Geneva Conventions specifies certain activities for outright banning due to their contravention of "human decency": sexual humiliation or the threat thereof, or religious denigration, for instance. Why, then, the senators asked, doesn't the order specify prohibitions on suspected interrogation techniques that military judge-advocates general have testified are also contraventions of the convention -- namely, threatening detainees with dogs, prolonged stress positions, forced nudity, mock executions and waterboarding?

Gonzales, going way further than intelligence chief Mike McConnell has, said that some of those measures are "possible techniques used by the CIA," even after the executive order. It wasn't confirmation, by any stretch, that waterboarding will still occur. But in response to the specific question, Gonzales told Kennedy that "some acts are clearly beyond the pale, and that everyone would agree should be prohibited. ... There are certain other activities where it is not so clear, Senator, and again, it is for those reasons that I can't discuss them in a public session." The order, naturally, received DoJ review before it was finalized.

There you have it, from the nation's "top cop": waterboarding and mock executions don't "clearly" shock the conscience.

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#3. To: Zipporah (#0)

here's what I'm starting to think is the really sad thing about gonzales. bush may finally be catching on to the fact that he's been used by people smarter than he - cheney and most of the neocons. he might actually be realizing that he was handpicked for his dumbness. here's a guy - gonzales - that may actually be stupider than bush. chertoff's another one. these guys ought to just fade quietly out of the public realm, but bush seriously wants to keep them around to make himself look smarter. what a farce. and a tragedy.

kiki  posted on  2007-07-26   0:17:06 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: kiki (#3)

chertoff's another one

Chertoff is very bright, a rabbi, an Israeli citizen, a traitor and a Marxist.

Dumb, no. Gonzo is dumb and a boot-licker.

JCHarris  posted on  2007-07-26   0:21:22 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: JCHarris (#4)

Chertoff is very bright

I guess I didn't know that - I was basing my opinion on the recent *gut* comment.

kiki  posted on  2007-07-26   0:27:02 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#7. To: kiki (#6)

I guess I didn't know that - I was basing my opinion on the recent *gut* comment.

LOL

I never SAID Comrade Crony Chertoff was not a lying self-serving shill. Does that count as much as stupid ?

JCHarris  posted on  2007-07-26 00:31:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: kiki (#6)

Comrade Chertoff's acting is very bad, almost as bad as Gonzo's and Smirk's.

There are a great many brilliant minds among the patriots of America. Theology is not that difficult a subject, whatever the religion, there's always wiggle room for debate. Try debating when a civil engineer builds a bridge that collapses, etc.

Comrade Chertoff was chosen because he is a traitor to America, a Bolshevik, a Zionist and an Israeli citizen.

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