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Title: Brooks Admits He Picked Facts ‘Out Of The Air' To Defend Bush's Iraq Policy
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Published: Jul 26, 2007
Author: Think Progress
Post Date: 2007-07-26 09:54:13 by tom007
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Brooks Admits He Picked Facts ‘Out Of The Air' To Defend Bush's Iraq Policy

Think Progress | July 24, 2007

Yesterday, Media Matters observed that on this week's Meet the Press, New York Times columnist David Brooks admitted to using a made-up statistic in order to argue against withdrawal from Iraq.

Specifically, Brooks rehashed the right-wing talking point that withdrawal in Iraq would certainly lead to “genocide,” alleging that 10,000 Iraqis a month would die after redeployment. But Washington Post reporter Bob Woodward quickly forced Brooks' to admit his statistics were baseless:

BOB WOODWARD: I mean, you cite numbers which you have pulled out of the air of 10,000 dying. I mean, that's–that– where does that come from? […]

DAVID BROOKS: So I just picked that 10,000 out of the air.

As Woodward noted, what happens after the U.S. withdraws is deeply speculative. Time Magazine notes today, “just how many Iraqis would die if the U.S. withdrew is anyone's guess ” and advocates a phased withdrawal as the best option. “Some experts believe Iraqis would, after a brief explosion of violence, regain control of their country.”

In fact, numerous military and diplomatic analysts argue that withdrawing U.S. forces from Iraq could “ prevent Iraq's multiple sectarian conflicts from spreading beyond its borders and gives Iraq and its neighbors the right incentive to help resolve Iraq's internal conflicts.”

Brooks has long been a ready advocate of Bush's foreign policy failures. In January, he defended Bush's rosy whitewashing of Iraq war history as “ accurate .” Last week, he walked away from a meeting with the President entranced by Bush's “ unconquerable faith in the rightness of his Big Idea.”

While Brooks recently complained that he was “ so confused ” about what to do in Iraq, we can be sure that he will conjure up fallacies to defend the President.

Transcript:

MR. BROOKS: On the other hand, if we leave…MR. WOODWARD: Glide plane.

MR. BROOKS: Well, if we leave, we could see 250,000 Iraqis die. You had the John Burns' quotation earlier in the program. So are we willing to prevent 10,000 Iraqi deaths a month at the cost of 125 Americans? That's a tough moral issue, but it's also a tough national interest issue because we don't know what the consequences of getting out are. And the frustration of watching the debate in Washington, very few people are willing to, to grapple with those two facts, that there's–that the surge will not work in the short-term, but getting out will be cataclysmic. And you see politicians on both sides evading one of those two facts. But you've got to grapple with them both.

[…]

MR. WOODWARD: And the problem, though, is, we don't know. People can say, “Oh, it's going to be a disaster.”

MR. BROOKS: Uh-huh.

MR. WOODWARD: I mean, you cite numbers which you have pulled out of the air of 10,000 dying. I mean, that's–that–where does that come from?

MR. BROOKS: Well, A, it comes from John Burns. Second, it comes from the national intelligence…

MR. WOODWARD: Well, no, he doesn't say 10,000.

MR. BROOKS: Well, no, no, but it talks about genocide.

MR. WOODWARD: Yeah.

MR. BROOKS: So I just picked that 10,000 out of the air.

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#1. To: tom007 (#0)

That's a tough moral issue, but it's also a tough national interest issue because we don't know what the consequences of getting out are.

LOL. I didn't have a clue as to who this "Brooks" person is.........find out he's just another liar for the admin! Nothing new......let's move on.

In all seriousness, this idiot Brooks can't even see his bogus argument quoted above.........the dumb shit doesn't consider that we didn't even know what the consequences of getting INTO this mess was, let alone getting OUT of it!

Furthermore, his suggesting that 125 soldiers are worth 10,000 Iraqis.....I would imagine if you ask each of these families you'd find an interesting answer--especially when knowing the truth was avoided in order to get us into the killing fields. AND you'll find that the rate of 125 a month is fairly close to what we are actually losing a month.

rowdee  posted on  2007-07-26   10:50:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: rowdee (#1)

I didn't have a clue as to who this "Brooks" person is.........

I do. He is the despicalble in house "Big Government Conservative" of the New York Times. His job is to find nuanced ways to sell the utterly retarded Bush spin of the moment- to try to sheen over the absurd or at least make the more intelligent Bush supporters not feel so stupid.

I stopped reading him three years ago when Duelfer Report came out and its conclusions couldn't have more damning of Bush. Brooks then set about to defend Bush by saying how the report noted (without substance or fact) that Saddam may have harbored in his heart a desire to build WMD. This, said Brooks, was "proof" Bush was right all along.

He is a disgusting paid whore pundit who lies for a living.

The Daily Burkeman1

Burkeman1  posted on  2007-07-26   14:01:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: rowdee (#1)

125 soldiers are worth 10,000 Iraqis

This proposition loses. Americans are against the war and want it over, like yesterday. Iraki deaths do not enter into our evaluation. 66% disapprove of Abu, that's 2 out of 3 - We don't much care how, but we want out now.

The fly in the ointment is the retreat and evacuation.

The meek may inherit the earth -- but not its mineral rights. -- J. Paul Getty

swarthyguy  posted on  2007-07-26   14:10:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: swarthyguy (#3)

Iraki deaths do not enter into our evaluation.

That fact has disturbed my greatly - its like they never existed to Americans.

But them ,most here only know what they are told by the dispicable MSM.

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato

tom007  posted on  2007-07-26   18:25:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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