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Title: Iraq LOOK AT THIS PLEASE
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Published: Jul 29, 2007
Author: staff
Post Date: 2007-07-29 22:29:05 by tom007
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#1. To: tom007 (#0)
Tom... Frustration of a nation.
from Newsweek: Lucidly, and without partisan rhetoric, Charles Ferguson's not-to-be-missed documentary, "No End in Sight," lays out the disastrous missteps of the U.S. occupation of Iraq. The magnitude of the errors perpetrated by the Bush administration—ignorance, incompetence, arrogance, bad or nonexistent planning, cronyism and naiveté—can make you weep with anger. We hear about jobs in Iraq handed to the sons of Bush campaign donors, of the young woman put in charge of managing traffic in chaotic Baghdad despite never having studied traffic control or Arabic. Thirty-five people are interviewed in the film, including Jay Garner, who briefly ran the reconstruction before being replaced by L. Paul Bremer; Ambassador Barbara Bodine, who was placed in charge of Baghdad (in an office that didn't even have phones); former deputy secretary of State Richard Armitage; a clearly bitter Robert Hutchings, chairman of the National Intelligence Council, who believes President Bush did not read the one-page summation of an intel report on the worsening situation that his committee submitted to the White House, and Colin Powell's former chief of staff, Col. Lawrence Wilkerson. One of the most eloquent is Col. Paul Hughes, who watched as Bremer carried out what the film posits as the most fatal of all the bad decisions: disbanding the Iraqi Army, which sent tens of thousands of unemployed, humiliated men into the arms of the insurgency. Though Ferguson is a former senior fellow at the Brookings Institution (and a political-science professor at MIT), "No End in Sight" doesn't enter the debate over the rights and wrongs of the invasion. The director has said he initially supported the war. This movie, his first, never raises its voice, yet it is bursting with the barely contained rage of the men and women whose expertise and best intentions were betrayed at every turn. This powerhouse of a movie should be required viewing for every member of Congress. The executive branch is likely to avert its eyes.
Thanks kiki. They believed their own press releases. US Political system has done that way toooooo much lately.
"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato
bush: "We will bring to the Iraqi people food and medicine and freedom." God should have smited him right then and there.
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I have to agree with this approach. The current situation in Iraq represents a two pronged problem. 1. The war was and is wrong and should have never been carried out. 2. The war was and is being carried out in such a fashion that the only reason I can find for its failure is willful and direct mis-management of the entire affair. In both cases people should be losing jobs, military theories being re-written from the ground up, and more than a few leaders being arrested and put on trial. But as with 9/11, members of club FEDGOV will award each other medals of freedom while innocent people die, nations are destroyed, and nothing is done to set things right.
"The more I see of life, the less I fear death" - Me.
No kidding! AND his Skull&Bones daddy, AND his ugly momma that you can just see the evil in her eyes, AND his PNAC member brother, AND his close acquaintances like Dick and Alberto...
99 percent of lawyers give the rest a bad name. My treat. Gotta love the line, "To hell w/democracy, we need strong men." It’s quite applicable here too.
I think BushCo actually bought the PNAC roses and candy scenario, but they badly misjudged the nationalistic backlash they're receiving. What causes me to shake my head is the inability of govt/politicians to change or abort disasters once they become obvious. The current flaking of this mess is sinful. Beginning w/Nixon I’ve heard the phrase, “It’s the cover up that gets you, not the crime.” While there is truth to that, regarding politicians, I think it’s the hubris that gets them.
Kiki, thanks. I have to see this movie. BTW, my daughter's nickname was Kiki when she was a kid, but when she went to first grade she demanded to be called Kathleen, which I mainly do. Every now and then, though, she tolerates "Keeks." Back on topic, I just do not understand how anyone could have supported that war, unless you had an actual blood relative executed by Saddam. As a fascist dictator, he was pretty run-of-the-mill. The only thing that made him interesting was that his posterior was firmly planted on a huge pile o' oil. I had some fascist telling me that being anti-war was just anti-Bush. I was out there a year before the war protesting and predicting a major religious war throughout the world if this happened. And Smirky the Wonder Punk hadn't even said the word "crusade" yet.
I agree, particularly when the reasons for it kept changing. saddam seemed contained. sure he was a jerk, but there are lots of jerks running countries. like this one! the other very telling thing was when the news came out (ok, it didn't *come out* - but it was on the internet) that rumsfeld was trying to pin 9-11 on iraq on 9-12. so convenient and inappropriate. it was difficult being against this war and this administration back then. I'd not experienced anything like anti-war = anti-bush = anti-america, where it was scary to have the "wrong" opinion. not even in the 60s. kiki was my childhood nickname too. my name is really christine, but I don't use it here for the obvious reason :)
LOOK AT THIS PLEASE
#2. To: tom007 (#0)
#3. To: kiki (#2)
The executive branch is likely to avert its eyes.
#4. To: tom007, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#0)
#5. To: Jethro Tull (#4)
Charles Ferguson's not-to-be-missed documentary, "No End in Sight,"
#6. To: kiki (#2)
Though Ferguson is a former senior fellow at the Brookings Institution (and a political-science professor at MIT), "No End in Sight" doesn't enter the debate over the rights and wrongs of the invasion.
#7. To: christine (#4)
God should have smited him right then and there.
Steven Wright
#8. To: christine (#5)
#9. To: Pissed Off Janitor (#6)
the only reason I can find for its failure is willful and direct mis-management of the entire affair.
#10. To: kiki (#2)
#11. To: Mekons4 (#10)
Back on topic, I just do not understand how anyone could have supported that war
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