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Title: Hagee - Ashamed of Jesus' Name
Source: [None]
URL Source: http://www.rense.com/general77/hagee.htm
Published: Jul 25, 2007
Author: Rev. Ted Pike
Post Date: 2007-07-30 15:13:26 by AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt
Keywords: Israel, Zionism, Dead Constitution
Views: 244
Comments: 13

To pray or not to pray in Jesus' name -- that question now confronts Christian evangelicals. Increasingly, Jewish activists demand that Jesus' name go unmentioned in public prayers. They also insist that Christians not witness to Jews.

Some evangelicals give them what they want.Dr. John Hagee, passionate "Israel-first" televangelist, worked closely with the Jewish lobby to found Christians United for Israel (CUFI). CUFI's purpose is to unite every evangelical across the nation to "speak and act with one voice in support of Israel."

*** For three days in the Capitol last week, Hagee and an array of political and religious luminaries lavished praise on Israel and the Jewish people during Hagee's 2nd Annual Israel/Washington, DC Summit. *** They did so while countless Americans agonized in prayer and concern over impending passage of Kennedy's hate law amendment. **** Afterward, conference attendees walked the halls of Congress to lobby not against the hate bill but for Israel.

**** Oppressive "hate crime" laws, which evangelicals are beginning to realize will persecute them, were created by Jews--the Anti-Defamation League and B'nai B'rith International. (See, video <Hate>http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7217700265038533779>Hate Laws: Making Criminals of Christians and <http://www.adl.org/99hatecrime/intro.asp)>http://www.adl.org/99hatecrime/intro.asp>http://www.adl.org/99hatecrime/intro.asp) The state of Israel's birth was midwifed by B'nai B'rith, the most powerful Jewish organization in the world during the last century. It claims to speak as "the voice of organized world Jewry."

Zionism, the government of Israel, ADL/B'nai B'rith, and the global hate laws agenda all have one goal: a global bureaucracy run from Jerusalem which will make it a hate crime for any Gentile, Christian or Arab, to criticize Jews, matters Jewish, or the state of Israel. (See, <Coming>http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/comingjewishutopia.html>Coming Jewish 'Utopia' Ruled by Noahide Laws)

Hate Bill Supporter Runs CUFI

CUFI's executive director, David Brog, a religiously (though not politically) conservative Jew, was hired by John Hagee. Brog is former chief of staff to Sen. Arlen Specter. Next to Sens. Kennedy and Smith, Specter is one of the Senate's most ardent, long-term promoters of the federal "anti-hate" bill.

Brog's personal assistant told me Brog headed Specter's staff from about 2000 to 2004. During that period, the hate bill came before Congress three times. Specter and Brog did their utmost to pass it, attempting to shackle America under a hate crimes bureaucracy like in Canada, ending free speech.

Featured speaker Sen. Joe Lieberman, also a veteran hate bill promoter, was honored last week at Hagee's gala. Lieberman and fellow Jewish activist Carl Levin co-sponsored the infamous Sec. 220 of the Lobby Reform Bill, which incited outrage from Christian conservatives this winter. Rejected by the Senate, Sec. 220 would have restricted Americans' right of petition and grassroots activism. It would have imposed oppressive reporting and accountability requirements on small conservative lobbying organizations. Penalty for not satisfying Levin and Lieberman's onerous requirements: $100,000 fine.

Hagee's Apostasy

While Hagee praised the names of Jews and Israel for three days last week, the name of Jesus was discouraged by CUFI policy. This restriction is on all CUFI's "Nights to Honor Israel" which are held in 50 states. When invited to address the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) last year, Hagee assured his hosts that his appearance would be "non-conversionary" (non-evangelical).

Speaking for Hagee as well as himself, David Brog says: "All activities of CUFI are strictly non-conversionary. Christians who work with Jews in supporting Israel realize how sensitive we are in talking about conversion and talking about Jesus. So those who work with us tend not to talk about Jesus more, but talk about Jesus less. They realize it will interfere with what they are trying to do -- building a bridge to the Jewish community to ensure the survival of Judeo-Christian Civilization." 1

Hagee benefits from a burgeoning evangelical heresy: Jews have their own covenant with God; they are so divinely favored, even good, that they do not need Jesus for salvation.

Jesus taught the opposite. He said His name should be proclaimed "to all nations." (Matt. 28:19) The New Testament hardly exempts Jews from need of the gospel. Instead, it instructs Christians to witness "to the Jew first" and then the Gentile (Romans 2:10).

****** Hundreds of times during CUFI's recent three-day Washington conference, Hagee and his speakers praised the names of those who created hate laws and the name of the nation that is the primary cause of Mid-East strife. There was no public praise of the name of the One who, coming out of eternity, died in agony on the cross for Hagee's sins. Clearly, CUFI is an abomination to God, as it is dedicated to public praise, honor, and glory to persecutive, anti-Christ Israel and not to Christ. (See, <Christians>http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/christiansinisrael.html>Christians in Israel: An Endangered Species)

Hagee's is a monstrous sin against Jesus, His Holy Spirit, and, tragically, against the eternal souls of Jews. The word "apostate" ("apostasis" in Greek) describes a backslidden Christian who now prefers the approval of man and stands apart from Jesus and the reproach of His name. The New Testament prophesies that in the latter days there will occur a great "falling away" as former Christians deny Christ's name to please unbelievers (2 Thess. 2:3).

Hagee's Deal with the Devil

Two thousand years ago the Pharisees demanded that the apostles not "talk about Jesus." The disciples refused and were thrown in prison and flogged. (Acts 4:3, 5:40)

In contrast, Hagee gives "the synagogue of Satan" (Rev. 3:9) exactly what it demands. He promises not to mention the name of Jesus among them. As a result, evil Jewish leaders exalt him.

Hagee boasts that he received the 'Humanitarian of the Year' award from B'nai B'rith. "It was the first time in the history of San Antonio," his website crows, "that it has been given to a Gentile Dr. Hagee has received numerous honors and accolades from national Jewish organizations for his unwavering support of Israel."

Hagee has abandoned his Christian duty of moral criticism in love. Instead, he flatters and unquestioningly supports one of the world's most boldly oppressive regimes. (See, <The>http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/mideaststrifeexplanation.html>The Simple Explanation for Mid-East Strife and video <Why>http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7713806100545252588>Why The Mid-East Bleeds) Since he praises and receives honor from those who create hate laws, is it any wonder that his huge ministry did not significantly warn against Kennedy's hate bill last week?

Some Won't Compromise

But some Christians still deserve the name. Like their apostolic forbears, they now endure persecution from the Jews.

In high profile are Navy Chaplain Gordon Klingenschmitt and 68 Navy chaplains suing the Navy for forbidding their use of Jesus' name in public prayers. Klingenschmitt has been court-martialed for praying in Jesus' name in front of the White House, expelled from the military, and stripped of his military pension.

His conviction is entirely a result of Jewish anti-Christian activism. Jewish activist Mikey Weinstein sued the Air Force Academy and was successful in banning public prayers in Jesus' name. Rabbi Arnold Resnicoff, chief ethical consultant to the Air Force and Navy, played the predominant role in upholding Weinstein's victory. Previously, Resnicoff had been instrumental in banning the use of Jesus' name in public prayers by Navy chaplains. (See, <Correction:>http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/afacademynotfree.html>Correction: Speech at Air Force Academy Not Free)

What's in a Name?

Why is the name of Jesus so hated by Jewish activists?

It's an old story. In the book of Acts, the Pharisees forbade preaching in Jesus' name because it focused blame on them for masterminding the crucifixion. Today the physical and spiritual descendants of the Pharisees object for similar reasons: The name of Jesus stands for a real Person whose identity as Son of God and Israel's Messiah they find abhorrent.

The name of Jesus, like our own names, refers to His identity. Our names represent our character and life record. The name Jesus (Yeshua) signifies that He is the Creator of all things and Deliverer of those who trust in Him. He is also the great lover of mankind, both Jew and Gentile, having endured an excruciating death so all who trust in His name can be saved. (Acts 4:12)

This raises indicting questions of Jews: Why did your forefathers crucify Him? Why do you continue to reject Him and revive New Testament persecutions against His followers? (See, <ADL>http://www.hatelawsexposed.org/alerts/philly11setup.htm>ADL Sets Up 'Philly 11' Christians)

Jewish activists have no problem with Christian chaplains or high school graduates praying in the name of "God." That word is non-specific, non-incriminating. "God" can be a universal world force, a cow or monkey, even ourselves. Such Jews also don't mind the use of "Jesus" as profanity, which levels Him to gutter language. Yet when Jesus' name is spoken reverently in public prayer, they protest loudly. Their "civil liberties," they scream, are being violated!

The Bible Doesn't Support Hagee

Hagee's mega-flattery of Israel and omission of the name of Christ finds no precedent in Scripture. In the Old Testament, the Hebrews gathered for lengthy festivals of praise but to God, not themselves. Most of the time, even when Israel was moderately obedient (as in the exodus), God describes Israel as an unusually stiff-necked and rebellious people (Ex. 27:9, 33:3).

In the New Testament, the Jews, having coerced the Romans to crucify their Messiah, are even less worthy of praise. Do the words of St. Paul indicate that, if he were alive today, he would have joined Hagee, Liebermann, and over 4000 evangelicals in Washington last week, whooping it up in praise of Israel?

"The Jews killed the Lord Jesus and the prophets and drove us out. They are not pleasing to God but hostile to all men, hindering us from speaking to the Gentiles that they might be saved, with the result that they always fill up the measure of their sins. But wrath has come on them to the uttermost." (1 Thess. 2:16)

St. Paul would have come toward Hagee for only one purpose: to rebuke him. Otherwise, he and New Testament Christians would have shunned him as a heretic.

So should you.

(Adapted from Rev. Ted Pike's October 2, 2006 article: "To Pray or Not to Pray in Jesus' Name.")

Endnotes:

1 July 13, 2006, The Washington Times, "Christian group to advocate more support for Israel," by Julia Duin.


couldn't find this posted at 4um....when I went to find the url at Ted Pike's site, found the following disturbing news:

National Prayer Network

EMERGENCY!!!

SENATE COULD VOTE ON HATE BILL NOW

By Rev. Ted Pike 30 Jul 07

I was told by Sen. Gordon Smith’s office this morning that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid wants a vote on the federal hate crimes bill before Congress adjourns for the summer. **** That means by the end of this week!

Smith’s spokesman said the hate bill was introduced several weeks ago as an amendment to the military reappropriations bill only to speed up the process. It could be as easily submitted as a stand alone bill anytime Reid can fit it into the Senate’s busy schedule.

Clearly, we do not necessarily have until September to protest the hate bill. We must immediately overwhelm the Senate with calls. Call your Senator NOW at 1-877-851-6437 toll-free or 1-202-225-3121. For several dozen other Senators who might be persuaded to vote against the hate bill come to http://www.truthtellers.org.

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#1. To: All (#0)

EMERGENCY!!!

SENATE COULD VOTE ON HATE BILL NOW

By Rev. Ted Pike 30 Jul 07

I was told by Sen. Gordon Smith’s office this morning that Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid wants a vote on the federal hate crimes bill before Congress adjourns for the summer. **** That means by the end of this week!

http://www.truthtellers.org/alerts/senatecouldvotenow.htm

[in case someone wants to make a thread...i didn't know where it should go]

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-07-30   15:23:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#0)

"Zionism and Christianity: Unholy Alliance" Preview - Pike

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2007-07-30   15:24:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#0)

Dr. Hagee? ROTHLMAO! Puleeze.......

From his web site:

Dr. Hagee attended Trinity University in San Antonio, Texas on a football scholarship and was on the Academic Dean's List. He graduated with a B.S. in 1964. He also attended North Texas State University where he received his Masters Degree in 1966. In 1989 he received his Honorary Doctorate from Oral Roberts University. His theological training came at Southwestern Bible Institute near Dallas where he was President of his class and a member of the College Concert Choir. In 2005 he received an Honorary Doctorate from Netanya Academic College in Israel. Dr. Hagee has served on the Oral Roberts University Board of Regents since 1989.

This man is a disgrace to the Christian world. And so many blind and lame follow him devotedly. This doesn't bode well for either him or them when the end arrives.

rowdee  posted on  2007-07-30   15:30:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Eoghan (#2)

thank you....i wish i could view it....alas, my computer is not so rigged.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-07-30   15:33:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: rowdee (#3)

he received his Honorary Doctorate from Oral Roberts University. His theological training came at Southwestern Bible Institute near Dallas where he was President of his class and a member of the College Concert Choir. In 2005 he received an Honorary Doctorate from Netanya Academic College in Israel. Dr. Hagee has served on the Oral Roberts University Board of Regents since 1989.

i didn't know that!

This man is a disgrace to the Christian world. And so many blind and lame follow him devotedly. This doesn't bode well for either him or them when the end arrives.

you're right....

Mat 15:14 Let them alone: they be blind leaders of the blind. And if the blind lead the blind, both shall fall into the ditch.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mat/Mat015.html#14

i'm not happy about this....i have a lot of family that fall into that category.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-07-30   15:39:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: All (#1)

EMERGENCY!!!

SENATE COULD VOTE ON HATE BILL

STALIN'S JEWS

"We mustn't forget that some of greatest murderers of modern times were Jewish"

Here's a particularly forlorn historical date: Almost 90 years ago, between the 19th and 20th of December 1917, in the midst of the Bolshevik revolution and civil war, Lenin signed a decree calling for the establishment of The All-Russian Extraordinary Commission for Combating Counter-Revolution and Sabotage, also known as Cheka.

Within a short period of time, Cheka became the largest and cruelest state security organization. Its organizational structure was changed every few years, as were its names: From Cheka to GPU, later to NKVD, and later to KGB.

We cannot know with certainty the number of deaths Cheka was responsible for in its various manifestations, but the number is surely at least 20 million, including victims of the forced collectivization, the hunger, large purges, expulsions, banishments, executions, and mass death at Gulags.

Whole population strata were eliminated: Independent farmers, ethnic minorities, members of the bourgeoisie, senior officers, intellectuals, artists, labor movement activists, "opposition members" who were defined completely randomly, and countless members of the Communist party itself.

In his new, highly praised book "The War of the World, "Historian Niall Ferguson writes that no revolution in the history of mankind devoured its children with the same unrestrained appetite as did the Soviet revolution. In his book on the Stalinist purges, Tel Aviv University's Dr. Igal Halfin writes that Stalinist violence was unique in that it was directed internally.

Lenin, Stalin, and their successors could not have carried out their deeds without wide-scale cooperation of disciplined "terror officials," cruel interrogators, snitches, executioners, guards, judges, perverts, and many bleeding hearts who were members of the progressive Western Left and were deceived by the Soviet regime of horror and even provided it with a kosher certificate......

And us, the Jews? An Israeli student finishes high school without ever hearing the name "Genrikh Yagoda," the greatest Jewish murderer of the 20th

Century, the GPU's deputy commander and the founder and commander of the NKVD. Yagoda diligently implemented Stalin's collectivization orders and is responsible for the deaths of at least 10 million people.....

Many Jews sold their soul to the devil of the Communist revolution and have blood on their hands for eternity. We'll mention just one more: Leonid Reichman, head of the NKVD's special department and the organization's chief interrogator, who was a particularly cruel sadist. In 1934, according to published statistics, 38.5 percent of those holding the most senior posts in the Soviet security apparatuses were of Jewish origin....."

one of the first Soviet laws was one that carried the death penalty for anyone that was deemed anti-semetic.

The people that were hung were Christians.

Cynicom posted on 2007-07-29

http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=58223

The Prop-Masters Perpetrators of the holocaust against Christian Russia transform themselves into "survivors" of "the Holocaust"....Judaic Communism: The Documentary Record The top Communist Judaic official Zinoviev stated: "Without mercy, without sparing, we will kill our enemies in scores of hundreds. Let them be thousands; ... http://www.revisionisthistory.org/communist.html

==============================================

it'll be by beheading this time, if Hagee, Lieberman, Bush et al get their way:

The "Noahide Laws", pushed by Sen. Lieberman into passage, and proclaimed by the Bush White House every year:

Merry Christmas, and OFF WITH YOUR HEAD! From "The Law is Only a Minimum," http://www.noahide.com/minimum.htm ...... Christians should be put to death (beheaded) for the practice of their religion. ... http://www.public-action.com/christmas.html

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-07-30   16:31:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: rowdee (#3)

This man is a disgrace to the Christian world. And so many blind and lame follow him devotedly. This doesn't bode well for either him or them when the end arrives.

So be it.

Ron Paul for President

robin  posted on  2007-07-30   17:12:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#5)

I looked up his bio because I hadn't heard about 'dr' previously.

And notice the deceit......in one place it says 'received HIS honorary doctorate'.....as though it was earned. In the other place, it merely says AN honorary degree. Sure makes it seem different.

I just finished reading a book about how apostacy was brought into the church early on...........and how it spread.

So I see this, and grieve for a whole lot of folks who think they're 'there', but certainly don't seem to be when you look beyond the declaration that "I am a christian'.

rowdee  posted on  2007-07-30   23:03:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#0)

"Christian Zionism" is a living nightmare. And about as anti-Gospel as you can muster.

Swimming around in my bourbon highball.....

PercyDovetonsils  posted on  2007-07-30   23:25:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: rowdee (#8)

And notice the deceit......in one place it says 'received HIS honorary doctorate'.....as though it was earned. In the other place, it merely says AN honorary degree. Sure makes it seem different.

MASTERS of deceit they are....NO!! DOCTORS of deceit!

I just finished reading a book about how apostacy was brought into the church early on...........and how it spread.

it's reached it's full measure, methinks...

a woman took three measures of fine meal:

Gen 18:6 — And Abraham hastened into the tent unto Sarah, and said, Make ready quickly three measures of fine meal, knead [it], and make cakes upon the hearth.

Mat 13:33 Another parable spake he unto them; The kingdom of heaven is like unto leaven, which a woman took, and hid in three measures of meal, till the whole was leavened. http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mat/Mat013.html#33

what was the leaven?

Mat 16:6 — Then Jesus said unto them, Take heed and beware of the leaven of the Pharisees and of the Sadducees.

Gal 5:9 A little leaven leaveneth the whole lump.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Mat/16/6.html

you're right...it was in the church from beginning...

Tts 1:10 ¶ For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision

Tts 1:11 Whose mouths must be stopped, who subvert whole houses, teaching things which they ought not, for filthy lucre's sake.

Tts 1:12 One of themselves, [even] a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians [are] alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies.

Tts 1:13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith;

Tts 1:14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.

Tts 1:15 Unto the pure all things [are] pure: but unto them that are defiled and unbelieving [is] nothing pure; but even their mind and conscience is defiled.

Tts 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny [him], being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Tts/Tts001.html#14

there were two sons, one by the freewoman [Sarah] and one by the bondwoman [Hagar]...and there were two covenants......which things are an allegory....Galatians 4:21-31:

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Gal/Gal004.html#21

A woman in the Bible often represents a church. Metaphorically speaking, you might say Sarah's measures of meal resulted in Jesus, the Bread of Life, and his followers, the church.

God planted His church in America [cross at Cape Henry in 1607...recall also the woman that was taken into the wilderness on the wings of an eagle http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Rev/Rev012.html#17 . As Cornwallis said to George Washington: A holy war will now begin [in earnest!] against America...in 200 years her churches will be used to teach the Jews' religion....]. The leaven of the Pharisees was sneaked into the church, and has leavened the whole lump since, to the point where maybe a hundred million or more Christians have been deceived to the point of eternal damnation.

The only good news, is that the kingdom of heaven on earth is reaching its fullness as well....it's the wheat and the tares time....hope some of those tares wake up soon.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-07-31   0:44:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: PercyDovetonsils (#9)

It is, but I can't help thinking of Ezekiel 34, where God said His sheep were wandering on all the green hills, and the shepherds didn't bother to go looking for them....the shepherds today are content to lead them even farther astray. They're still Lost Sheep...many are, in many ways, way better people than myself...there but for the grace of God go I....I don't understand why.

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-07-31   0:49:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, rowdee (#11)

I once heard a fun sermon on how stupid sheep are. They can literally be frightened to death by a wild dog. They can get stuck on their backs. Dirt sticks to them like velcro. One bad sheep will lead them off a cliff.

There's more, sheep really do need a shepherd, the comparison wasn't much of a compliment. That sermon inspired me to read up on owning sheep, it seems it was all true.

Interesting reading in Ezekial 34, thanks.

Ron Paul for President

robin  posted on  2007-07-31   8:32:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#0)

Hagee is an anti-Christ and a hell-bound blasphemer.

“When I am the weaker, I ask you for my freedom, because that is your principle; but when I am the stronger, I take away your freedom, because that is my principle.”-Louis Veuillot

YertleTurtle  posted on  2007-07-31   8:56:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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