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Title: Ed and Elain Brown
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URL Source: http://edbrownvlog.blogspot.com/
Published: Jul 31, 2007
Author: Titorite
Post Date: 2007-07-31 21:22:10 by titorite
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Views: 330
Comments: 19
On the night of the 28th/29th I started posting on every forum I could about the attack on the Browns. I would of posted here too but I had to register first. (understandably) In the mean time I posted all over the place and kept people up to date as the situation went on till day break. In the following days the media released thier lies about the event. They said we that called in cloged the emergancy switchboards. They said nothing happend that no shots were fired. They said Danny Riley was lying. Yesterday, WNUR, released another story stateing that the police *actully* refused to investigate because the Browns have not paid thier taxes and therefore are not entitled to police protection. Several tax paying individuals are out there. Independeant watchdog groups like Cop Watch are also there. These individuals have been denied police protection as well. It is also improtant to remember the emergancy switchboard or 911 switchboard can only be reached by local 911 callers and that those of us around america and the world that called the NON-emergancy numbery of the Plainsfeild police could not of possibly tied up the emergancy switchboard. This kind of propaganda is being pushed to discredit the Browns and boost support for the coming seige. The Feds can not show the Browns' the law requiring them to pay income tax because the law does not exist. They wont admit to this fact because of thier fear about the social chaos it would create not to mention the lose of control and power. The Browns will not surrender nor back down. This will lead to the one inevitable conclusion. And I will leave that conclusion unspoken.
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#1. To: titorite (#0)
I'm hoping and praying that because their case is high profile now that the inevitable conclusion you expect won't happen and that the Brown's will be left alone. Do they really want another Ruby Ridge or Waco? It seems to me there are now many many more Americans who are aware of government abuses and tyranny than there were then. Or am I being too hopeful?
Income tax has nothing to do with "property tax" ... which is paid at the county level. The county sheriff is paid from funds collected through property taxes and should be willing to prevent the Brown's murder, or the destruction of their property. Otherwise, the Brown's have every right to defend themselves and their property. If the local authorities refuse to uphold the law the Brown's are forced to look after themselves. No IRS employee, or U.S. Marshal should ever again feel secure in their person or property if they assassinate the Browns.
"The mighty are only mighty because we are on our knees. Let us rise!" --Camille Desmoulins
Sounds like the gov is considering the Brown's property to be foreign territory, as though Ed & Elaine have successfully conducted a revolution.
A little from collum A and a little from Collum B. They do not want Ruby Ridge or Waco. And no matter what this will not be like those to events. In those events no one ever fired back. Even at Waco when the ATF moved in the first time nobody fired on them. Truth is someone got trigger happy and the ATF did all the shooting. On the tapes of the day you can hear them shouting "friendly fire friendly fire, cease fire cease fire" . Then they lied and blame the davidians. This event is differnt. The Browns are ready and willing to defend themselves. This event is Lexington. Many more americans ARE aware of the tyranny. But being aware doesn't make tyranny go away. A tyranny is just that because you can not vote it right. Petions and protests will not correct it. The Clinton family and Bush family are friends and when Clinton ascends to office she will do thier bidding aswell as her own. Do keep them in your prayers. They need all the love and support they can get.
The important thing up there in NH is to make sure the bad guys can't set up a siege without being severely harassed. The Browns need to maintain a very wide perimeter. The mistake the Davidians made was to let the ATF fall back and the FBI move in without making them pay a heavy price. The bad guys driving down the road toward the Browns need to be fearing for their lives a mile or two away.
I'm sure several LEO's are sweating for the murders of Bill Cooper [lots of friends], the Branch Davidians and the Weavers. Some haven't forgotten and are waiting for the day to "do unto some as they have done to others." ["V" - like..get it?] If the Browns are murdered, how many more will die before we get off our asses and start shooting back!?
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition None
None Well I'll stand next to you friend to make sure NONE is the right answer.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition Actully the Davidian never fired a shot. They didn't "let" the ATF fall back. The ATF fell back because they were to close together and when one pulled the trigger they all started fireing and before you knew it friendly fire had hit a few of there guys. They pulled back because they had to tend to the wounded they mistakenly shot. Then some nazi propagandist spun the story and said they fired on the ATF. The fed are not bright. They believe thier own propaganda and thats a big mistake. It is a mirical nobody fired back on the 29th. Now they probably believe they won't. Also the spin machine is on full blast to make them look bad. To make it look like they are liars and that thier supporters are hazards to the community. They are expecting this to end like Waco and Ruby Ridge that is to say they expect to kill a few or all and then wash it under the bridge with out any of thier guys getting hurt. They do not expect to be fired upon. Big mistake.
English isn't your first language, isn't it? You're also wrong about Waco. As the feds assaulted them they fired back and killed some of them, exactly as they should have.
“When I am the weaker, I ask you for my freedom, because that is your principle; but when I am the stronger, I take away your freedom, because that is my principle.”-Louis Veuillot
http://video.google.com/videoplay? docid=4298137966377572665&q=waco+rules&total=42&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search& plindex=0 that is part one of waco rules of engagement http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=- 1755692679103175934&q=waco+rules&total=42&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plinde x=1 That is part two The davidians did not kill anyone. They didn't even shot back. Watch the movie and you will hear the ATF screaming "friendly fire, cease fire"
You missed my point. Whether or not the Davidians fired back, they should have known what would happen if they let the feds regroup at that point. They should have chased the ATF back to town or where ever, and then expanded their perimeter. By holing up inside their building, and giving the FBI a chance to surround them closely, they signed their own death warrants. If I was in charge, any approach to Mt Carmel after the initial assault would have been a gauntlet of gunfire and firebombs. You saw the propaganda videos, RofE and RofE2. The feds were crybabies when they got their hair messed up once. Imagine if they got their hair messed twice or three times. They'd all quit. BTW, instead of relying on the RofE videos for the truth about Waco, try Carol Valentine's Waco Electronic Holocaust Museum. There's a ton of info there. Peruse it for about 8 hours sometime. Warning, some of it will break you up.
MEhhh I think your right and that I maybe squabling over insignifigant details in light of the subject I brought up, which was the Browns and not the Davidians. Your Texan Critter. So am I. I was 11 when it went down. We had to watch "channel one" news every day in school. I remember it well as it went down and I understood that the government was lying even back then. Anyways, the Browns need our attention and support today before something happens. I don't have much faith that the final outcome will be avoided but I carry on with my conviction that it is my duty to try and help them avoid that outcome.
Actually, I was born and raised on Long Island, in NY, and now live in Middleburgh, NY in the Catskill Mountain foothills. I was up to visit Ed early on in this, but he doesn't like me, cuz I happen to belong to a Masonic Lodge. lol That aside, I still support him from afar and may support him up close if it gets down to it and he does things in a "winnable" way. Unfortunately, I think he is going to do it all wrong and end up burning up with that house of his.
A masonic lodge eh? R U a master mason? If so have you pursued any of the other branchs of the craft? Do you think the OTO are a good or bad refelction of freemasonry? Does freemasonary teach about the symbolism of the religions like Hours and Jesus? BIGGEST QUESTION Do you believe you had it in you to become are better man without the craft or would you not have become the better man without the teachings you have learned from your inside perspective? I'm just a very curious outsider. I learn what I can from an outside perspective. Someone says fraternal brother and I pay attention...but so far lower degree masons are the only ones that seem chatty. To be spesific I am most curious about your mythos history.
Yup. Nope OTO?? Not that I am aware of. I'd like to think I was a good man to begin with and stayed that way.
OK this thread is taking a turn but. Stay where you are Don't advance. On the surface ...it has its good works. I hope you haven't asked anyone about the OTO yet. If you haven't DON'T Do a search online. Its an eastern branch that likes to focus on mystisim. From what I read they get freaky. I know I am a good man. I don't subscibe to the notion that an organizeation will make a better man out of me. My actions determin my results. I work to better myself without assisstence and without being beholding to anyone. You might like a movie called zietgeist. Its free from the distributer online. Be well. and question autority.
you're a texan too? we have several texans on board including me. i'm in austin. where are you?
Ron Paul for President
#2. To: titorite (#0)
WNUR, released another story stateing that the police *actully* refused to investigate because the Browns have not paid thier taxes
#3. To: titorite (#0)
Yesterday, WNUR, released another story stateing that the police *actully* refused to investigate because the Browns have not paid thier taxes and therefore are not entitled to police protection.
Several tax paying individuals are out there. Independeant watchdog groups like Cop Watch are also there. These individuals have been denied police protection as well.
#4. To: christine (#1)
#5. To: titorite (#4)
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#6. To: noone222, christine (#2)
No IRS employee, or U.S. Marshal should ever again feel secure in their person or property if they assassinate the Browns.
#7. To: IndieTX (#6)
If the Browns are murdered, how many more will die before we get off our asses and start shooting back!?
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#8. To: Critter (#7)
If the Browns are murdered, how many more will die before we get off our asses and start shooting back!?
#9. To: Critter (#5)
The mistake the Davidians made was to let the ATF fall back and the FBI move in without making them pay a heavy price.
#10. To: titorite (#9)
They believe thier own propaganda and thats a big mistake. It is a mirical nobody fired back on the 29th.
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#12. To: titorite (#9)
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#13. To: Critter (#12)
#14. To: titorite (#13)
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#15. To: Critter (#14)
#16. To: titorite (#15)
R U a master mason?
If so have you pursued any of the other branchs of the craft?
Do you think the OTO are a good or bad refelction of freemasonry?
Does freemasonary teach about the symbolism of the religions like Hours and Jesus?
BIGGEST QUESTION Do you believe you had it in you to become are better man without the craft or would you not have become the better man without the teachings you have learned from your inside perspective?
Enemies of the Republic
#17. To: Critter (#16)
#18. To: titorite (#13)
#19. To: titorite (#0)
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