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Title: N.C. flag law rarely enforced
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Published: Aug 1, 2007
Author: Mike McWilliams
Post Date: 2007-08-01 06:31:25 by YertleTurtle
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Asheville – Charges against an Asheville couple mark the first use of a 90-year-old North Carolina law on desecration of the American flag since the Vietnam War era, a state court official said Thursday. Even then, police used the law only two times. Back-to-back U.S. Supreme Court decisions since then make it unconstitutional, civil rights experts said. Staff Sgt. Mark Radford, 105th Military Police Battalion of the North Carolina National Guard, says he alerted law enforcement to the Kuhn's flag display on Brevard Road. Staff Sgt. Mark Radford, 105th Military Police Battalion of the North Carolina National Guard, understands that the flag display statutes are rarely enforced. Readers react to flag incident Flag-defiling charge ends in fight, arrests Advertisement “It hasn’t been used in so long, we don’t even keep a statistic on it,” said Dick Ellis, public information officer for the N.C. Administrative Office of the Courts in Raleigh. A Buncombe County sheriff’s deputy acting on a complaint from a fellow National Guardsman issued the charge Wednesday at the Brevard Road home of Mark and Deborah Kuhn. An ensuing scuffle with the deputy put the Kuhns in custody on charges of assault on a government employee, obstruction and flag desecration, all misdemeanors. They were released from jail Wednesday afternoon. The Kuhns said they were assaulted by the deputy. Deborah Kuhn told a 911 dispatcher that Scarborough “has broken into our home and is violating our rights.” State law prohibits anyone from knowingly mutilating, defiling, defacing or trampling the U.S. or North Carolina flags. The Sheriff’s Office has said the Kuhns desecrated the flag by pinning signs to it, not by flying it upside down. The Sheriff’s Office will conduct an internal review to determine whether the Deputy Brian Scarborough was right in personally taking action on the complaint, Sheriff Van Duncan said. The usual procedure is to refer the complaint to Asheville police, he said. “It’s an unfortunate situation involving a very emotional issue,” Duncan said. “But we are going to review it.” The deputy appeared to have acted correctly after he arrived at the Kuhns’ home, Duncan said. “If someone is being issued a citation, they must provide ID,” he said. The arrests came less than a week after Asheville police responded to a separate complaint about the Kuhns’ flag. No citations were issued, and no report was filed, police have said. Ellis said the only other two flag desecration cases he could find mentioned in state records took place during the Vietman War era — another time when tensions were high over America’s involvement in a war. At least one of those charges was later dropped, Ellis said. He said he could find no other cases in which the law was used. Constitutional questions A spirited debate has been brewing since Scarborough arrested the Kuhns on Wednesday following what was initially a flag desecration complaint but escalated into assault and obstruction charges. The Kuhns, who where hanging an upside-down American flag with signs attached to it on their front porch, said they flew the flag to protest the state of the country. An upside-down flag is recognized as a distress signal. The Kuhns said the signs pinned to the flag were to explain why they were displaying the flag upside down along with a photo of President Bush with “out now” written on it. Sheriff’s reports show Scarborough, 25, told the couple they were illegally displaying the flag and told Mark Kuhn he would be ticketed. When asked for identification, Kuhn allegedly refused, slammed the door on the deputy’s hand and broke a glass pane, which cut Scarborough’s hand, according to the Sheriff’s Office. However, the Kuhns said when they closed and locked the door, Scarborough intentionally broke the glass, unlocked the door and entered their home to place the Kuhns under arrest. The Sheriff’s Office said the Kuhns attacked Scarborough by hitting him in neck and face. The Kuhns have denied that allegation. U.S. Supreme Court decisions in 1989 and 1990, which protected flag desecration as a form of expressive conduct under the First Amendment, raise questions as to the legality of the North Carolina law. “We believe it’s unconstitutional across the board,” said Katy Parker, attorney for the American Civil Liberties Union of North Carolina. “This was clearly expressive conduct, and I think it makes it an even more egregious violation because this was clearly expressive conduct.” Noelle Talley, spokeswoman for N.C. Attorney General Roy Cooper’s office, said as far as she knows, the attorney general’s office has not been asked to render a legal opinion on the state’s flag desecration law. “Only a court can issue legal decisions,” Talley wrote in an e-mail. Constitutional or not, a flag desecration law is on the books in North Carolina, which is one reason Mark Radford said he decided to alert authorities about the Kuhns’ flag. Radford is a staff sergeant in National Guard’s Asheville-based 105th Military Police Battalion. He has served in the military for 14 years. Radford said he first noticed the Kuhns’ flag July 20 driving to and from the National Guard unit headquarters. Radford said he is not friends with Scarborough but knows him as a soldier and from seeing him on patrol near the unit headquarters. Radford said Scarborough is not in his unit. “I’m all about free speech … and to have all of this stuff in his yard, that would be fine. Nobody really cares,” Radford said. “But when you take the American flag … to do that, it’s illegal, but personally, it was disrespectful. I was like, ‘Man, too many people have served under that flag.’” Radford said the flag raised the ire of several soldiers in his unit. He said he told the deputy about the flag Monday. Whether a law is seldom enforced doesn’t matter, he said. “The law is the law, and if we don’t follow the rule of the law as a society, where does it go from here?” Radford asked. Bruce Elmore, an Asheville lawyer and state president of the ACLU, is representing the Kuhns on the criminal charges. Deborah Kuhn said they do not plan to take civil action against the Sheriff’s Office. Elmore said his clients were simply practicing expressive conduct protected by the U.S. Constitution and upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court. The First Amendment is meant to protect unpopular speech, not popular speech, he said. “I’m surprised that a National Guard officer and deputies with the Buncombe County Sheriff’s Department are not aware that the Supreme Court has declared statutes which criminalize desecration of the flag unconstitutional when the act is involved in expressing a belief, which this clearly was,” Elmore said. Chris Cooper, assistant professor of political science at Western Carolina University, said flag desecration has historically been a touchy subject. “Symbols are pretty important to people, and there are few symbols that represent America as much as the flag,” he said. “People are very comfortable with freedom of speech when it is speech that they agree with, but when it becomes speech we don’t agree with … it is a little bit tougher to swallow.” Jurisdiction Although sheriff’s deputies are technically within their jurisdiction, law enforcement officials say deputies don’t normally respond to calls within the Asheville city limits. The Kuhns’ home is in West Asheville. An exact number of calls deputies have responded to in Asheville was not immediately available. “If we run across a misdemeanor committed in our presence, we can make an arrest,” Chief Deputy Don Reavis said. “It’s not that many times, no. It’s usually as a backup if they (Asheville police) get overwhelmed, then we’ll come in and help them, but we, of course, have jurisdiction throughout the county.” APD Chief Bill Hogan said the Sheriff’s Office has the right respond to complaints within the city limits if they choose to. APD had been contacted about the Kuhns’ flag July 18, but no citation was issued or report filed. That decision was left up to the officer’s discretion, Hogan said. It’s not known who called in the complaint. “I think we tread very carefully on issues on constitutional rights,” Hogan said. “This is a very sensitive area on both sides of this issue, and again we tread very carefully, and (I) would even say we err on the side of caution in terms of not wanting to deprive anyone of their rights. But there again in researching this, that officer would have the lawful right as the law now stands to take enforcement action.” Deborah Kuhn said she has been overwhelmed by the “huge amounts of support” she and her husband have received since their arrests. “I can’t tell you how many people have called and come by and just all positive,” Kuhn said. “It’s really been an uplifting thing for us.” Scarborough, 25, started at the Sheriff’s Office in 2003 as a reserve deputy. He was hired full time June 13, after serving seven months in Iraq with the National Guard, Reavis said. Reavis declined a Citizen-Times request to interview Scarborough. “We’re not going to let him talk to you or any of the media until he talks to the main boss (Sheriff Duncan),” Reavis said.
Poster Comment: The career of this dumbass cop is now over. The victims are going to get a bunch of money. Right about now, all over the nation, police departments are informing officers to ignore upside flags, unless, of course, they want world-side bad oublicity and to lose a huge lawsuit.
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#1. To: YertleTurtle (#0)
Radford is a liar and Bill Hogan is a thug.
This whole situation is a joke...the flag was NOT desecrated; it is perfectly fine to hang the flag upside-down as a symbol of a nation in distress. The people in this area doing all the complaining are flag-waving Republican goobers who can't tolerate dissenting opinion. These Republicans seem to forget that Republican Presidential candidate Alan Keyes (who had substantial support in this area) wore an UPSIDE-DOWN flag pin on the lapel of his suit while campaigning. He even encouraged others to do so.
But your forgetting that most sheople and most cops are totally ignorant jackasses...and that goes for a lot of vets who like to say things like "too many people have died for that flag!" Totally ignorant. Nobody dies for a damned piece of cotton. They die for ignorance, or Freedom, or adherence to Duty, and right now our country has lots of ignorance, no Freedom, and a people joining up to keep from going broke thanks to the policies of the NWO bastards at TheStateInc Bring back the draft for their greed and power, and the jackboots will get my kids over the jackboots' dead bodies. My kids aren't dying for the New World Order. An invasion of the US by a foreign army or domestic traitors...well that's a different story..and one of these has already happened and they're all in D.C! V FOR VENDETTA!
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition actually, he inadvertently told the truth.... , ‘Man, too many people have served under that flag.’” that's the gawd-awful truth...TOO MANY HAVE served.....JEW CORP USA! under that flag. The United States Isn't a Country — It's a Corporation! In essence, this Act formed the corporation known as THE UNITED STATES. Note the capitalization, because it is important. This corporation,owned by foreign interests... "....I am saddened to think about the brave men and women who were killed in all the wars and conflicts instigated by the Controllers. These courageous souls fought for the preservation of ideals they believed to be true — not for the likes of a corporation. Do you believe that any one of the individuals who have been killed as a result of war would have willingly fought if they knew the full truth? Do you think one person would have laid down his life for a corporation? I think not...." http://www.serendipity.li/jsmill/us_corporation.htm CorpUSA is Jewish ....note the Star of David over the eagle's head here, and it bears the number of the Beast, as well: http://www.gemworld.com/US-Symbol-1dol.html Is "Radford" Jewish? "..."Thanks to the terrible power of our International Banks, we have forced the Christians into wars without number. Wars have a special value for Jews, since Christians massacre each other and make more room for us Jews. Wars are the Jews' Harvest: The Jew banks grow fat on Christian wars. Over 100 million Christians have been swept off the face of the earth by wars, and the end is not yet." (Rabbi Reichorn, speaking at the funeral of Grand Rabbi Simeon Ben49;Iudah, 1869, Henry Ford also noted that: 'It was a Jew who said, 'Wars are the Jews' harvest'; but no harvest is so rich as civil wars.' The International Jew: The World's Foremost Problem, Vol. III, p. 180).
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition "...I believe it will be useful for us to learn the true origin of the hexagram or six-point Star of David, and the five-point star or "Pentagram". Both are associated with the Cabbala or Jewish occult and witchcraft. They were connected with Solomon who experimented with evil and magic, not with his father, David. The Lord God appeared to Solomon twice and commanded he desist and abandon his strange gods but Solomon paid no heed so the Lord took the united kingdom from his son, Rehoboam. Solomon was the last king of a united Israel. I Kings 11:1-13, 26-36, "Solomon loved many women, besides the Egyptian princess, women of the Moabites, Ammonites Edomites, Zidonians, and Hittites; of the (Serpent's seed) nations which the LORD said to the children of Israel, You shall not go in to them, neither shall they come in unto you: for surely they will turn away your heart after their gods. Solomon did so anyway. He had seven hundred wives, and three hundred concubines: and when he was old, his wives turned away his heart after other gods: and his heart was not perfect with the LORD his God, as was the heart of David his father. For Solomon went after Ashtoreth (meaning "star") the goddess of the Zidonians, and after Milcom (meaning "great king") the abomination of the Ammonites, (the god Molech -- "king" -- who required child sacrifice). Solomon did evil in the sight of the LORD, and refused to follow the LORD, as his father David did. Then Solomon built a temple for Chemosh (identified with Baal-peor, Baal-zebub, Mars and Saturn), the abomination of Moab, in the mount of Olives, and for Molech, the abomination of the children of Ammon. He did likewise for all his strange wives to burn incense and sacrifice to their gods. The LORD was angry with Solomon, because his heart was turned from the LORD God of Israel, Who twice appeared to him specifically to warn him against worshiping other gods: but he ignored the LORD'S command. Wherefore the LORD said to Solomon, Forasmuch as you have not kept My covenant and My laws, I will tear the kingdom from your family, and give it to your servant. However for the sake of your father David, I won't do this in your lifetime: but will take the kingdom away from your son. Even so, I will permit him to be king of one tribe for David My servant's sake, and for the sake of Jerusalem, My chosen city." Verses 26 to 36, "And Jeroboam the son of Nebat, an Ephrathite of Zereda, Solomon's servant, whose mother's name was Zeruah, a widow woman, rebelled because while Solomon built Millo, and repaired the breaches of the city of Jerusalem, Jeroboam was very able, and when Solomon saw how industrious he was, he placed him in charge of his laborers from the tribe of Joseph. And one day when Jeroboam was leaving Jerusalem, the prophet Ahijah the Shilonite, wearing a new robe as a symbol, called Jeroboam aside to talk in a field: Ahijah tore his new garment into twelve pieces saying: Take ten pieces: for thus saith the LORD, I will tear the kingdom from Solomon, and give ten of the tribes to you: (But he shall have one tribe for My servant David's sake, and for Jerusalem's sake, the city which I have chosen out of all the tribes of Israel): Because Solomon has forsaken me, and worshipped Ashtoreth the goddess of the Zidonians, Chemosh the god of the Moabites, and Milcom the god of the children of Ammon, and has not walked in My ways, to do what is right in My sight and to keep My statutes and judgments as his father David did. However I will not take the whole kingdom out of his hand: and I will let Solomon rule all the days of his life for David My servant's sake, whom I chose, because he KEPT My commandments and My statutes: I will take the kingdom from his son, and give ten of the tribes to you. His son shall have the other tribe, so the descendants of David will continue to reign in Jerusalem, the city in which I have chosen to put My Name." It is not the star of David, for David never saw it. It is the crest of Solomon and was produced when he was backslidden. One of the reasons Stephen the martyr was stoned by the Jews was because he pointed this out. Acts 7:42-43,54,57, "Then God turned, and gave them up to worship the host of heaven; as it is written in the book of the prophets, O You House of Israel, you have offered to me slain beasts and sacrifices by the space of forty years in the wilderness? Yes, you took up the tabernacle of Moloch, and the Star of your god Remphan, figures which you made to worship: and I will carry you away beyond Babylon." "When the Jews heard Stephen say this, they were cut to the heart, and they gnashed on him with their teeth . . . and stopped their ears". (See also Hosea 4:17 and Amos 5:27). From the word hexagram, which means six sided figure, we get the word hex, which means to curse or cast a spell. It is actually the male and female equilateral triangle interlocked to bring forth the great emanating light of Lucifer. That is why witches stand skyclad or naked in a six-pointed star to invoke the principalities and powers from beyond the astral plane. The hexagram is also the geometric form of the mark of the beast, for in it are six angles right, six angles left, and six angles in the core or center, which is 666. This has nothing to do with the Israelite people but with a Christless religion that welds witchcraft and Judaism together (and also melds in much of so-called "Christendom"). The hexagram or six-point star of David was not Israelitish, but pagan. The first mention of this symbol was in 922BC in connection with Solomon's involvement in witchcraft, magic and idolatrous worship to Ashtoreth and to Moloch. It appears the Hebrew children brought it with them in their exodus from Egypt. It comprises two equilateral triangles having a common center and is related to the "Ying and Yang", being known to the Hindu, Chinese and Peruvians. The Jewish Encyclopedia (under Cabbala, p464, 458) traces the Cabala to the Chaldees, thence to Lucifer in the garden of Eden. Amos 5:25-26 and Acts 7:43 refer to the star Saturn who represents Satan, Titan, Tammuz, Dragon, Bacchus, Kronos, Nimrod, Ninus, Sagittarius (the Archer), Oanes, Osiris, Mars, Pluto, Iswara, Deoius, etc., Amos 5:25-27, "You have offered me sacrifices and offerings in the wilderness forty years, O house of Israel. But you have borne the tabernacle of your Moloch and Chiun, names for the planet Saturn, the STAR of your god, of which you made images. So I shall send you away in captivity beyond Damascus." King Solomon took this pagan symbol to himself when he went into idolatry and it became known in Arabic magic and occult circles as "the Seal of Solomon". Among Israelite symbols from Hellenistic times (discussed by E. Goodenough, Jewish Symbols in the Greco-Roman Period), both the hexagram and the pentagram are missing. From the thirteenth century AD, the six-pointed star began to gather favor as a Jewish national symbol, following the ill-fated 1254 crusade of the Khazar false Messiah David al-Roy (Menahem ben Duji) who was assassinated on his way to "liberate" Palestine. Thereafter it began to be attributed to king David, appearing on the Jewish Flag in Prague in 1527. In the Sixteenth century AD, the hexagram became accepted in "Jewish" circles as "the Shield of David", following the influence of the Cabalist Isaac Luria (1533-72) (Jewish Encyclopedia, 1964, p469). Prior to this time there was no usage of the six-point star in Jewish, and certainly not in Israelite circles. King David's symbol had always been the Menorah or seven-branched lampstand. Only "Jewish sources called the star the "Shield of David". All non-Jewish sources call this symbol the "Seal of Solomon". According to the Encyclopaedia Judaica (1972, Vol. XI, p688) "It is not clear in which period the hexagram (Magen David) was engraved on the seal of Solomon mentioned in the Talmud (Gittin 68a) as a sign of his dominion over demons, instead of the Name of God which originally appeared on his ring", (his signet or seal). The article goes on to explain how the Seal of Solomon or hexagram was widely used in Arabic magic. In 1822 the "Magen David" was adopted by the Ashkenazim (Khazar) self-styled Jew, Mayer Amschel Bauer who hung a red hexagram on his door to identify his address. Upon becoming a supplier of coinage to the royal Court, he changed his name to "Roth Schild", meaning Red Shield, and it was used on the Rothschild coat of arms when they were raised to the nobility by the Austrian emperor (Encyclopaedia Judaica, p696). (Red is the color of Esau who is Edom, and of Communism, which is Talmudism and Judaism. From the House of Rothschild, the hexagram was lent to the Zionist movement, later taken over by Edmond Rothschild and the House of Rothschild.) The modern design derives from the flag designed in 1891 by David Wolfsohn who succeeded Theodor Herzl. It was first displayed at the first Zionist Conference in Basel, Switzerland in 1897, conducted by Herzl, and was confirmed as the Jewish flag by the eighteenth Congress in 1933. The State of Israel was created by the UN in 1948, and on November 14 adopted the occult symbol of the six-pointed star (of Ashteroth or Astarte) which now adorns the Knesset (or parliament) and flies on their flag. The blue and white are derived from the Hebrew tallit or prayer shawl. Their national emblem, the Menorah, is modeled on that which appears on the Arch of Titus in Rome. Theodore Herzl's design for the Zionist emblem was to have been a white flag with seven yellow stars, one at each point of the hexagram which was to have been replaced with the Hebrew words, "Aryeh Yehudah" (the Lion of the Tribe of Judah), the seventh star was to be above the apex of the topmost of the six. The Magen David Adom (Red Shield of David) is the symbol that appears on Israel's equivalent to the Roman Catholic "Red Cross" organization and Red Crescent Service of Moslem countries. Thus a pagan occult symbol has become the international symbol of the "Jews", few of whom are Hebrews or Israelites descended from Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Less follow the Law and the prophets who have been supplanted by the lewd and blasphemous Talmud. And today it seems that the Rothschilds almost rule the world. Lubbavitcher Rebbe Rabbi Shulkem ben Schneersohn knew what he was about when he wrote: "The Zionists are more cunning in their evil and they have made nationalism a substitute for Torah and Commandments" (Michael Selzer, Zionism Reconsidered, p12). Nathan Birnbaum, who coined the term "Zionism", and was present at the First Congress in Basel, left the movement in 1899 and became completely Orthodox and absolutely hostile to the Zionist Movement. In his paper, "In Bondage to Our Fellow Jew", he wrote: "It seems, that we are better qualified to deal with our bondage to the Gentiles that with our bondage to our brothers who are estranged from the Torah and its teachings" (Michael Selzer, Zionism Reconsidered, p6)....." http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/nl075.htm see also: Central Bankers Seek Totalitarian Power. He says the Soviet five-pointed star represents the five Rothschild brothers ... used by the mother of the five Rothschild brothers: "'If my sons want it, ... http://www.rense.com/general74/central.htm It all goes back to the very founding of CorpUSA George Washington got a loan from Haim Solomon to pay the troops. George found Haim in his synagogue. It is said that one of the payoffs for the loan was that they would put Rothschild's other symbol, THE EAGLE, on the national seal. more... THE HOUSE OF ROTHSCHILD FINAL WARNING. Financier Haym Salomon, who supported the patriots during the American Revolution, ... Thomas Jefferson, and James Monroe, was a Rothschild agent. ... http://www.the7thfire.com/new_world_order/final_warning/house_of_rothschild_final_warnin.htm to post: Jewish Persecution Chapter 18. The story about Solomon "dying bankrupt" is questionable and highly unlikely, as we shall see that among other things he was a Rothschild agent. ... http://www.sweetliberty.org/perspective/jewishpersecution18.htm Haym Solomon: Biography and Much More from http://Answers.com Haym Salomon Philadelphia broker Haym Salomon (1740-1785) played a vital role ... £3.5 million from the Sassoon and Rothschild banking houses and families. ...http://www.answers.com/topic/haym-solomon George W. Bush, Zionist Double Agent, American Traitor | http://100777.com It also reveals the money connection of Rothschild agent, Haym Salomon, to what it describes as the "weak U.S. government." ... http://100777.com/node/1514 Every war our soldiers have ever fought, were fought under a LUCIFERIAN/JEWISH flag! [and RED is for ESAU and COMMUNISM! How lovely! The flag shouldn't be hung upside down...it should be BURNED!]
You are a gifted teacher. Well illustrated and excellent expose.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition again.... http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Eze/Eze017.html verses 1-10 http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Jhn/Jhn015.html#1 [Cross at Cape Henry 1607 http://www.nps.gov/archive/colo/capeheny/capeheny.html and also : "...Cape Henry also over looks the scene where another historic event took place, the Battle of the Capes. On September 5, 1781, two mighty war fleets exchanged cannon shot for about two and one-half hours. A French fleet, commanded by Admiral Comte deGrasse, engaged a British naval force commanded by Admiral Graves that had been sent to reinforce Lord Cornwallis's British army at Yorktown. With no ships lost during this battle, the French fleet would return to the Chesapeake Bay and block the British from relieving Cornwallis. This ensured the eventual surrender of Cornwallis to General Washington's Allied army of American and French troops on October 19, 1781. The victory at Yorktown, the final major battle of the Revolutionary War, would give birth to a new nation initiated at Jamestown 174 years earlier. (Remember what Cornwallis said to George Washington: A HOLY WAR will now begin against America...in 200 years her churches will be teaching the religion of the Jews, etc. etc. http://sweetliberty.org)/Psalm 2)] Matthew 15:12-13: http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mat/Mat015.html#13 why do the heathen rage....it's already been decided.
Radford, what do you think that flag stands for?
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
when a soldier dies in service under that flag.....what shape do they fold it into to give to the wife or mother? a Judeo-Masonic triangle http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/masonicmuseum/great_seal_of_the_us_medallion.htm I once saw the pall-bearers hold the coffin above their heads before lowering it, as if it were some sort of SACRIFICE, which it was...a sacrifice to their god Lucifer.
just trying to connect the dots, Indie, while there is still a little time to save souls, if nothing else...and that is what really matters to God, anyway.
I agree Indie, Allthekingshorses puts up a lot of tremendous material.
Jeremiah 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day [that] I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
“I’m all about free speech … and to have all of this stuff in his yard, that would be fine. Nobody really cares,” Radford said. “But when you take the American flag … to do that, it’s illegal, but personally, it was disrespectful. I was like, ‘Man, too many people have served under that flag.’
#2. To: YertleTurtle (#0)
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#3. To: who knows what evil (#2)
(Edited)
the flag was NOT desecrated; it is perfectly fine to hang the flag upside-down as a symbol of a nation in distress. The people in this area doing all the complaining are flag-waving Republican goobers who can't tolerate dissenting opinion. These Republicans seem to forget that Republican Presidential candidate Alan Keyes (who had substantial support in this area) wore an UPSIDE-DOWN flag pin on the lapel of his suit while campaigning. He even encouraged others to do so.
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#4. To: titorite (#1)
Radford is a liar
#5. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, RED PANTHER (#4)
PING TO THE TRUTH.
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#6. To: IndieTX, Yertle Turtle (#5)
a note on the five-pointed star on the flag, and the six-pointed star on the dollar
#7. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#6)
And this is one of many excellent links you provided. http://www.the7thfire.com/new_world_order/final_warning/house_of_rothschild_final_warnin.htm
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#8. To: IndieTx, Yertle Turtle (#6)
sorry, i can't resist re Rothschild's EAGLE and his STAR OF SOLOMON on the $1 bill
#9. To: YertleTurtle (#0)
“I’m all about free speech … and to have all of this stuff in his yard, that would be fine. Nobody really cares,” Radford said. “But when you take the American flag … to do that, it’s illegal, but personally, it was disrespectful. I was like, ‘Man, too many people have served under that flag.’”
#10. To: YertleTurtle (#0)
one more thing....
#11. To: IndieTX (#7)
#12. To: IndieTX, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#7)
#13. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#10)
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http://freemasonrywatch.org/secr ets.html
http://www.de >http://lusionre >http://sistance.org/christian/mason_pics.html
http://www.theforbiddenknowledge.com/hardtruth/washingtonsmasonicapron.htm
a Judeo-Masonic triangle .....I once saw the pall-bearers hold the coffin above their heads before lowering it, as if it were some sort of SACRIFICE, which it was...a sacrifice to their god Lucifer.
I found out recently..sadly..that my Dad [corrected: 32nd degree] wants to be buried in his Masonic Apron.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#14. To: IndieTX (#13)
I am sorry to hear that Indie...is he still living? Does he know the god of freemasonry is Lucifer? Isn't there anything you can do? There are lots of good sites that expose the truth about freemasonry. http://cuttingedge.org is probably the first place I learned about it:
#15. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#14) (Edited)
He's 80. He must be totally brainwashed since he's been active in man's church for the last 50 years. Of course, I know that isn't the true Church, but the point is that he thinks he is a Christian and, therefore, he must truly believe there is no Evil in masonry. Or else he is an apostate/imposter and fooled me all these years. I just don't know. He hasn't been active in lodge crap for many years but he sure wears that 32nd degree [He's as high as you can go according to him..don't know if it's 32 or 33] ring proudly and now his latest revelation about wanting burial in his masonic apron. I didn't even know WTF it was until I looked it up. Masons keep secrets alright...even to death... from their own flesh and blood. What does that tell the lurking folks? If it were such a Light of Goodness, why keep it a secret..even from your very own children??????????? He would deny everything I showed him on the subject, and even question my intent as a false accuser if I truly confronted him on it. I once mentioned it years ago, and he brushed it off as sillyness and said "Don't quote from Albert Pike...he lived years ago" as if he was irrelevant.
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#16. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#14)
Cutting Edge...excellent website.
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#17. To: IndieTX (#15)
have you tried showing him Pike's "vision" for three world wars that have come to pass? He can LISTEN to Myron Fagan's recording that he made back in the 1960's here: http://www.apfn.org/APFN/illuminati.htm have you tried showing him that freemasonry is a tool of the antiChrist Jews to destroy Christianity and America? speech in red at bottom of the page: http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/luther.htmI I wish I could post a copy of a page out of a freemasonry book [it was a Mason's handbook from the last 20 or thirty years] I saw in a used book store. It stated that freemasons were "true Noachides", or followers of the antiChristian Talmudic Jew Noahide Laws, which calls for separate laws for Jews and Christians, making Christians second-class servants of the Jews, if they are not beheaded, that is. For you, OR ANY LURKERS: Under the Noahide Laws The Lubavitch Movement. The Noahide Laws. Freemasons: True Noahides ...... "Rabbi Di Segni...explains [the seven precepts that all noachides must respect]: ... http://www.watch.pair.com/law.html The History of Freemasonry And so Noachides, or its synonyms Noachida or Noachites, means a descendant of Noah. But why, it may be asked, are the Freemasons called the descendants of Noah... http://altreligion.about.com/library/texts/bl_mackeyhistory42.htm The History of Freemasonry This is in fact the true symbolism of the Legend, and it is thus connected with the whole system of Freemasonry in its Speculative form. ... http://altreligion.about.com/library/texts/bl_mackeyhistory41.htm Noachites We are better off to seek the source of Dr Andersons association between Freemasons and what Anderson referred to as Noachides..... [**** THIS IS CACHED FROM A MASONIC SITE] http://www.public-action.com/x/nh-freemasontracbrd/ President King of the Noachides. Will this man, the descendent of Kings and Queens ... their Masonic god, Moloch of the order of the Solomonic freemasons and the dark ... http://www.samliquidation.com/president.htm Chabad_7B Masonic Connexion Lubavitch Noachides Masons ..... The True Noahides. In The History of Freemasonry, HIGH ADEPT AND PRINCE OF MASONRY, ALBERT MACKEY, ... http://www.samliquidation.com/chabad_7b.htm Freemason Discussion Group - http://excoboard.com Quote: Admin wrote: Can Noachides become Freemasons ? ... his own Constitution, it was printed "A Mason is obliged to obey the moral law as a true Noachida. ... http://excoboard.com/exco/thread.php?forumid=66325&threadid=274069 The Illustrated History of Freemasonry by Moses W. Redding The Triangle is the true symbol of the Masonic science, geometry, ...... sincerity and submit to the laws of the Noachides, because they are divine laws. ... http://www.phoenixmasonry.org/illustrated_history_of_freemasonry.htm Jewish Persecution by Jackie Patru | Section Sixteen "So in their own words, Freemasons declare themselves Noachides'. ... http://www.sweetliberty.org/perspective/jewishpersecution16.htm : The Noachide Faith in Masonic Sources ... association between Freemasons and what Anderson referred to as Noachides. ... "A Mason is obliged by his tenure to observe the moral law as a true ... http://bnainoachnews.com/tiki-read_article.php?articleId=4 ==================================================== Have you tried telling him what Jesus said on the subject of secrecy? Jhn 18:19 ¶ The high priest then asked Jesus of his disciples, and of his doctrine. Jhn 18:20 Jesus answered him, I spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in the temple, whither the Jews always resort; and in secret have I said nothing. http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Jhn/Jhn018.html#20 have you tried to tell him that God is THROUGH with Judaism and all its "fronts", including freemasonry: Isa 65:15 And ye shall leave your name for a curse unto my chosen: for the Lord GOD shall slay thee, and call his servants by another name: Isa 65:16 That he who blesseth himself in the earth shall bless himself in the God of truth; and he that sweareth in the earth shall swear by the God of truth; because the former troubles are forgotten, and because they are hid from mine eyes..... http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Isa/Isa065.html#15 ....and that the God of Truth is Jesus, and no other: Jhn 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me. http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Isa/65/16.html Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved. http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Jhn/14/6.html ....certainly not of OURSELVES, as masons believe: 1Jo 1:8 If we say that we have no sin, we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us. Rom 3:9 ¶ What then? are we better [than they]? No, in no wise: for we have before proved both Jews and Gentiles, that they are all under sin; Rom 3:10 As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:...... http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Rom/3/10.html Rom 3:19 Now we know that what things soever the law saith, it saith to them who are under the law: that every mouth may be stopped, and all the world may become guilty before God. Rom 3:20 Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law [is] the knowledge of sin. Rom 3:21 ¶ But now the righteousness of God without the law is manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; Rom 3:22 Even the righteousness of God [which is] by faith of Jesus Christ unto all and upon all them that believe: for there is no difference: Rom 3:23 For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God; Rom 3:24 Being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: Rom 3:25 Whom God hath set forth [to be] a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God; Rom 3:26 To declare, [I say], at this time his righteousness: that he might be just, and the justifier of him which believeth in Jesus. http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Rom/Rom003.html#10 ....that God has spoken TRUTH to His disciples: Jhn 15:15 Henceforth I call you not servants; for the servant knoweth not what his lord doeth: but I have called you friends; for all things that I have heard of my Father I have made known unto you Jhn 15:16 Ye have not chosen me, but I have chosen you, and ordained you, that ye should go and bring forth fruit, and [that] your fruit should remain: that whatsoever ye shall ask of the Father in my name, he may give it you. [BTW, *** these two verses are the fulfillment of Isaiah 65:15, above.] http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Jhn/Jhn015.html#15 ....have you tried telling him those others who don't know him, OR CONSEQUENTLY, THE FATHER, ARE BLINDED? 2 Corinthians - Chapter 4 2Cr 4:1 ¶ Therefore seeing we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we faint not; 2Cr 4:2 But have renounced the **** hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in **** craftiness, *** nor handling the word of God deceitfully; *** but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God. 2Cr 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: 2Cr 4:4 **** In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. 2Cr 4:5 For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake 2Cr 4:6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to [give] the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/2Cr/2Cr004.html#4 ========================================== I suspect your father has fallen for what is probably the oldest sin of all: PRIDE.....that Satan/Lucifer succumbed to, and then used to ensnare the children of God: as he said in the garden: Gen 3:4 And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: Gen 3:5 For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and **** ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil. and what did JESUS say: when you know the difference between good and evil, and sin, WHICH WE ALL DO, then you ARE CONDEMNED, UNLESS YOU PUT ON THE ROBES OF RIGHTEOUSNESS WHICH IS BY FAITH IN JESUS CHRIST. What is the end of the one who the freemasons follow: Isa 14:12 ¶ How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! [how] art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! Isa 14:13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: Isa 14:14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. Isa 14:15 Yet thou shalt be brought down to hell, to the sides of the pit....... http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Isa/Isa014.html#15 So WHAT does it profit them to have THE SEETHING ENERGIES OF LUCIFER [as they like to say] in their hands....when Lucifer's end is HELL? What will it profit your father to wear the FIG LEAF/apron of the Masons in death, when he has to stand NAKED before Jesus whom he has rejected: Mat 10:32 ¶ Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven. Mat 10:33 But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven. Mat 10:34 ¶ Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword. Mat 10:35 For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in law. Mat 10:36 And a man's foes [shall be] they of his own household. Mat 10:37 He that loveth father or mother more than me is not worthy of me: and he that loveth son or daughter more than me is not worthy of me...... http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Mat/Mat010.html#32 [ coincidence, i am sure, but the pertinent verses here are 32 and 33! ] very difficult passage, I know. I read this link at cuttingedge last night, and found it very good at exposing some of the flagrant lies of freemasonry: TITLE: MAJOR DISCOVERY IN FREEMASONRY! Subtitle: At long last, we have solved the question as to how Freemasons can consider themselves to be "Christian" -- when their teachings deny the Deity of Jesus Christ, many other critical doctrines -- only to then turn around to espouse teachings the Bible describes as "Antichrist"..... http://www.cuttingedge.org/free18.htm I'd maybe try some tracts from this link: http://www.ephesians5-11.org/ I would get some other Christians to pray for his eyes to be opened...I will put him on my prayer list. I surely wouldn't give up...he is your father, after all. All things are possible with God. God be with you.
He would deny everything I showed him on the subject, and even question my intent as a false accuser if I truly confronted him on it. I once mentioned it years ago, and he brushed it off as sillyness and said "Don't quote from Albert Pike...he lived years ago" as if he was irrelevant.
#18. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#17)
This is interesting site. The pastor was a former warlock/Luciferian. Insight into the true religion of the elite.
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#19. To: who knows what evil (#16)
It IS a great website...I've learned a lot from it over the years....including a lot about WEATHER CONTROL/WARFARE. I don't agree with some of the site...for instance, they speak of the "rapture" [no such thing] of the church, or at least they did in the older articles....I don't know if they still do....I do remember reading one article several years ago, where they seemed to begin to question whether the church in America was going to be "raptured" in time to escape the so-called "tribulation", which the first century church experienced. However, I think many of us have come to a clearer understanding of the Bible and current events, as God has revealed them for this special time, so I overlook some of what I consider to be errors on the site...it's still a good site. 1Cr 4:5 Therefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who both will bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and will make manifest the counsels of the hearts: and then shall every man have praise of God. http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/1Cr/1Cr004.html#5 I don't think it is the "end of the world", because the world [earth] will endure forever; but I do think it is the end of the "age" of the devil and his followers....Rev. 20:7-10.....
Cutting Edge...excellent website.
#20. To: Eoghan (#18)
I used to read at that site a long time ago...I didn't know it was still around...it looks totally different....I almost think they are the ones who gave a very good defense for America being the Babylon of Revelation, tying the ten FEMA districts into all of it. I think we are the IMAGE of that Babylon, [all scripture is given for an example] which I believe was Old Jerusalem...actually I think THE GOVERNMENT is the image of Babylon...that Babylon that God speaks of in Ezekiel 17:1-10, and here: Zec 2:7 Deliver thyself, O Zion, that dwellest [with] the daughter of Babylon. Mic 4:10 Be in pain, and labour to bring forth, O daughter of Zion, like a woman in travail: for now shalt thou go forth out of the city, and thou shalt dwell in the field, and thou shalt go "[even] to Babylon;" there shalt thou be delivered; there the LORD shall redeem thee from the hand of thine enemies. Christian America is Zion. I will take a further look at lasttrumpet...Thanks!
#21. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#20)
For my education, what the FIGS does that mean?
Christian America is Zion.
#22. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#14)
In practical use, a Jew Cabal vetting org.
Does he know the god of freemasonry is Lucifer?
#23. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#17)
2Cr 4:1 ¶ Therefore seeing we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we faint not; 2Cr 4:2 But have renounced the **** hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in **** craftiness, *** nor handling the word of God deceitfully; *** but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God. 2Cr 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost: 2Cr 4:4 **** In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them. 2Cr 4:5 For we preach not ourselves, but Christ Jesus the Lord; and ourselves your servants for Jesus' sake 2Cr 4:6 For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to [give] the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. There are no secrets in the true Church of Jesus Christ, only in that of Lucifer. Thank you! I am sending him the above pasted verses from your post FIRST and hopefully he'll get the idea before I confront him more directly, but lovingly of course. I put "Important devotional verses for today" in the SUBJ line. Perhaps he will hear/
Jhn 18:20 Jesus answered him, I spake openly to the world; I ever taught in the synagogue, and in the temple, whither the Jews always resort; and in secret have I said nothing.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#24. To: JCHarris (#21)
oh where to start.... Galatians 3:16-29 [the promises were made to "thy seed"....not "seeds"...the "seed" IS CHRIST.....3:29 AND IF YE ARE CHRIST'S THEN YOU ARE ABRAHAM'S SEED, AND HEIRS TO THE PROMISE]. Christians are heirs to all the unfulfilled promises made to Abraham. Christians are PROPHETIC Israel. see THE CHURCH IS ISRAEL NOW http://www.preteristarchive.com/PartialPreterism/provan-charles_dd_01.html America is the promised land for Christians. God said He would take His people Israel into their own land: See Ezekiel 34:11-13...John 10 declares that these people [the Lost Sheep/House of Israel] are those who follow Christ. http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Eze/Eze034.html#13 The first thing the colonists did when they came to America in 1607, was plant a cross at Cape Henry, and declare this land for Jesus Christ and the spreading of the gospel....see also the First Virginia Charter were their purpose was declared. [also see Genesis 15:13-14, another prophecy that was NOT fulfilled in the first Israel...they were slaves for the MOST 360 years, NOT 400, and it is more probable that they were slaves for only about 160 years, for it was about 200 years after they went into Egypt, that "a king arose who knew not Joseph"....until THAT time, they were TREATED WELL. GEn. 15-13-14, says we would be servants in a land that "was NOT our own" for 400 years...this is true as well....FOR THE US IS STILL A BRITISH COLONY - do a search!...but God said that would be temporary, for the day would come when they would NOT afflict us: 2Sa 7:10 Moreover I will appoint a place for my people Israel, and will plant them, that they may dwell in a place of their own, and move no more; neither shall the children of wickedness afflict them any more, as beforetime, 1Ch 17:9 Also I will ordain a place for my people Israel, and will plant them, and they shall dwell in their place, and shall be moved no more; neither shall the children of wickedness waste them any more, as at the beginning, ] The EASIEST thing would be to direct you to a site that expresses some of the truth, BUT WITH ERRORS. It is very easy, quick reading. The biggest ERROR there is that "Israel" is all white....it is not....Rev. 5:9-10....God has taken his people from every tribe, nation, and tongue.....John 3:16 For God so loved THE WORLD that He gave His only begotten Son that all who believed might be saved....Isaiah 53:10 says those who accept Him as their savior are HIS SEED [see Gal. 3:16-29]....the ETHIOPIAN EUNUCH of Acts 8 BECAME HIS SEED [the Ethiopian was black: Can a leopard change his spots, OR AN ETHIOPIAN HIS SKIN?] http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/Act/8/33.html . check out this site: THE OLD JERUSALEM IS NOT THE NEW JERUSALEM ISRAEL THE BRIDE http://www.historicist.com/ojnj/ojnj6.htm ....hit "back" at the bottom of the page to get to the index/beginning of the articles. There is another article, written in 1857, declaring that the United States of America is prophetic Israel [the "United States" is actually a CORPORATION, and is the image of Babylon, the SECOND EAGLE in Ezekiel 17:1-10....the one that will be plucked up: Matthew 15:13]. It is long, but I will post one little excerpt for you: ... the United States of America is symbolized by the man-child of the winged woman in the wilderness. The United States of America is the nationality that is promised in the prophetic Scriptures to arise in the latter times as Israel Restored. It has long been a favorite theory, both with Jewish and Christian writers, that the nationality to be gathered together in the latter days, was understood to mean the returned or restoration of the scattered sons of Abraham to the land of Palestine. We are not surprised at the confidence with which this opinion has been entertained from age to age, because it is a legitimate a priori interpretation, seeing this nationality is called "Israel" by the prophets. In a conversation had with a venerable Bishop of the Episcopal Church, he inquired of us: "Sir, by what construction of language do you make the great nationality, promised to arise in the latter times, to mean the United States? That the Bible authorizes us to expect such a nationality there can be no doubt; but how do you make out that nationality to be the United States of America, as it was promised to be Israel?" To which we replied: "Beloved Bishop, the predictions of the prophets are put up in Hebrew dress; the regalia is Mosaic, the custom is Israelitish. They did not say, friends of civil and religious liberty, Americans, or even Christians; but **** they used the best terms they had on hand: they said 'Israel.'" ..... The United States Of America Foretold In The Holy Scriptures by Rev. F. E. Pitts Feb. 22 and 23, 1857 http://www.originofnations.org/old_bi_literature/Pitts.htm America is the "Israel" referred to in Ezekiel 38 and 39.....our friends the "Jews" [Rev. 3:9], are Gog and Magog of the same chapters [see THE THIRTEENTH TRIBE http://biblebelievers.org] I'm assuming you have some background in the Bible...If you read THE OLD JERUSALEM IS NOT THE NEW JERUSALEM [and remember to discard the error of an all-white Israel], and still do not understand, I will be happy to answer any question...only I'm not sure I can do it right now or today....I'm being hounded at the moment to work on some pressing personal matters...the devil does have his ways.... ============================================= Rom 9:6 ¶ Not as though the word of God hath taken none effect. For they [are] not all Israel, which are of Israel: Rom 9:7 **** Neither, because they are the seed of Abraham, [are they] all children: but, In Isaac shall thy seed be called. Rom 9:8 That is, **** They which are the children of the flesh, these [are] not the children of God: but **** the children of the promise are counted for the seed................... http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Rom/Rom009.html#8 One more very good site to explain who is TRUE Israel: Who is the "Church?" Who is "Israel?" http://www.goodnewsaboutgod.com/israel.htm [I disagreed with something at this site, as well....I think she saw heaven "out there" somewhere....it will be here...see Matthew 13 and Luke 13....the Kingdom of Heaven is planted in the field....which is the world]. ============= pardon the typos...and the rushed explanation...i'm getting grief here...
#25. To: IndieTX (#23)
Prayers going up in the name of Jesus!
Perhaps he will hear/
#26. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#24)
you're pretty much a superman (or superwoman) in putting up these quality verses & lessons & insights. be aware that JCHarris has ill will. and your personal things come first. thanks for your efforts though.
Jeremiah 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day [that] I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
#27. To: Red Jones (#26)
Thank you, Red.
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