See other 9/11 Articles
Title: Truthers - Steel cantilevered bridge collapses - What happened?
Source:
Self
URL Source: http://Press
Published: Aug 2, 2007
Author: EdCondon
Post Date: 2007-08-02 08:07:26 by EdCondon
Keywords: 9/11 truthers, troofers, steel WTC
Views: 908
Comments: 87
No fire! No planes! No muslims that anyone could see ... Wha happened?
Post Comment Private Reply Ignore Thread
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/Latest
Comments (1-36) not displayed.
.
.
.
#37. To: Jethro Tull (#36)
"Very few established institutions, governments and constitutions... are ever destroyed by their enemies until they have been corrupted and weakened by their friends." -- Walter Lippmann (1889-1974)
Just FYI, The TSA is going to take all the bridge rubble and try to rebuild it somewhere, to see if they can determine what caused the failure. A person commented on CNN (I think it was a structural engineer), that he can not imagine, HOW, two ends of the bridge came down at the same time. There was some jackhammer work on one side of the river, that might have contributed to 'vibrations', but, an investigation was needed to determine if the jackhammer work was specifically around, or close to, critical connectors (? bridge talk) that may have caused/contributed a span failure.
"Very few established institutions, governments and constitutions... are ever destroyed by their enemies until they have been corrupted and weakened by their friends." -- Walter Lippmann (1889-1974)
Another day with something else on the front page is a good day for the regime.
Ron Paul for President
Another day with something else on the front page is a good day for the regime. So true. My inner cynic is really throwing a fit today. ;)
"Very few established institutions, governments and constitutions... are ever destroyed by their enemies until they have been corrupted and weakened by their friends." -- Walter Lippmann (1889-1974)
Detraction, distraction,dissection,dissemble,dissention, we get all of it.
TommyMadArtist already explained many times yesterday, as he lives there, that the bridge was neglected. And apparently the bridge received a poor rating recently, also.
Swimming around in my bourbon highball..... don't forget the $1 TRILLION [or was it 2 or 3 TRILLION] that DOV ZAKHEIM absconded with when he was comptroller of the pentagram....announced the day before the offices at the pentagram that were auditing this were destroyed.
"Anonymously" "Not authorized to distribute it publically."
"First they ignore you. Then they ridicule you. Then they fight you. Then you win." --Mahatma Gandhi
What's the pentagram? Jew theft is nothing new. Hitlery Clinton bought two whole Jew towns, 100%, by getting Slick to let them off the hook for stealing funds, just $80 Million that time, from the Taxpayer for children; goy children, of course. Look at Russia when it collapsed; World bank funds borrowed by Russia, in dire need, never even reached the Russian banks but were stolen electronically and disappeared into banks NOT controlled by the locals.
Most of Israel's armament was obtained thanks to him. Squads of US F-16 and F-15 were classified as military surplus and sold to Israel at a fraction of their value. Israel, a country of 4.8 million Russian and Polish Jews sits on one of the largest Air Forces in the world. Thanks. When are we going to put a stop to thisa shit?> They are head of every single agency and department. " We feel better in a country we have severely weakened. " " At no time in the past century have we owned FEWER than 280 Representatives in the House and 80 Senators. Law is no longer made in the U.S. Congress, but is made in OUR think tanks and handed to our representatives to be dutifully passed into LAW. "
When God's ready to let it happen...when He thinks we've learned our lesson, probably, or when "He sees our strength is gone", or when He takes pity and has mercy on us....or all the above. If you read my reply to you on the other thread, you will see my explanation that Christians are true Israel, and Christian America is the New Israel/New Jerusalem of prophecy. We have followed in the footsteps of the first Israel...they rejected God from ruling over them, and asked for a king: 1Sa 8:7 And the LORD said unto Samuel, Hearken unto the voice of the people in all that they say unto thee: for they have not rejected thee, but they have rejected me, that I should not reign over them...... and He proceeded to warn them of what would become of them under their king: http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/1Sa/1Sa008.html#7 Jesus said to call no man on earth your father, because you have one Father who is in heaven. After this country was founded in the name of Jesus Christ [see Psalm 2:6], what did we do....we got ourselves a "king" and called HIM the FATHER OF OUR COUNTRY. However, God said He WOULD rule over His people Israel.... Eze 20:33 ¶ [As] I live, saith the Lord GOD, surely with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out, will I rule over you: Eze 20:34 And I will bring you out from the people, and will gather you out of the countries wherein ye are scattered, with a mighty hand, and with a stretched out arm, and with fury poured out. Eze 20:35 And I will bring you into the wilderness of the people, and there will I plead with you face to face. Eze 20:36 Like as I pleaded with your fathers in the wilderness of the land of Egypt, so will I plead with you, saith the Lord GOD. Eze 20:37 And I will cause you to pass under the rod, and I will bring you into the bond of the covenant: [He's talking about the NEW Covenant here] Eze 20:38 And I will purge out from among you the rebels, and them that transgress against me: I will bring them forth out of the country where they sojourn, and they shall not enter into the land of Israel: and ye shall know that I [am] the LORD..... http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Eze/Eze020.html#33 ================================================= Deu 32:36 For the LORD shall judge his people, and repent himself for his servants, when he seeth that [their] power is gone, and [there is] none shut up, or left. Deu 32:37 And he shall say, Where [are] their gods, [their] rock in whom they trusted, Deu 32:38 Which did eat the fat of their sacrifices, [and] drank the wine of their drink offerings? let them rise up and help you, [and] be your protection. Deu 32:39 See now that I, [even] I, [am] he, and [there is] no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither [is there any] that can deliver out of my hand. Deu 32:40 For I lift up my hand to heaven, and say, I live for ever. Deu 32:41 If I whet my glittering sword, and mine hand take hold on judgment; I will render vengeance to mine enemies, and will reward them that hate me. Deu 32:42 I will make mine arrows drunk with blood, and my sword shall devour flesh; [and that] with the blood of the slain and of the captives, from the beginning of revenges upon the enemy. Deu 32:43 Rejoice, O ye nations, [with] his people: for he will avenge the blood of his servants, and will render vengeance to his adversaries, and will be merciful unto his land, [and] to his people..... http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Deu/Deu032.html#36 Isa 10:24 ¶ Therefore thus saith the Lord GOD of hosts, O my people that dwellest in Zion, be not afraid of the Assyrian: he shall smite thee with a rod, and shall lift up his staff against thee, after the manner of Egypt. Isa 10:25 For yet a very little while, and the indignation shall cease, and mine anger in their destruction. Isa 10:26 And the LORD of hosts shall stir up a scourge for him according to the slaughter of Midian at the rock of Oreb: and [as] his rod [was] upon the sea, so shall he lift it up after the manner of Egypt. Isa 10:27 And it shall come to pass in that day, [that] his burden shall be taken away from off thy shoulder, and his yoke from off thy neck, and the yoke shall be destroyed because of the anointing. http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Isa/Isa010.html#25 probably the best thing we could do: 2Ch 7:14 If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land. http://www.blueletterbible.org/tsk_b/2Ch/7/14.html ======================== pentagram = pentagon
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
That's what happened. It is also interesting, in a 'post 9/11 world', critical 'corridor' bridges, were NOT under constant scrutiny for structural soundness and security. To protect life, limb and big business. I am so glad to hear that big business is REALLY chipping in to help the workers. With Granola bars and plastic chairs. That is REALLY nice. Target is throwing in some shirts. I do have a cheaper suggestion here. Perhaps those businesses could outsource themselves and eliminate the need for rebuilding. Move the college into the FEMA trailers.
"Very few established institutions, governments and constitutions... are ever destroyed by their enemies until they have been corrupted and weakened by their friends." -- Walter Lippmann (1889-1974)
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
We don't know that they didn't yet. Stock market hula for two weeks, someone made money.
"Very few established institutions, governments and constitutions... are ever destroyed by their enemies until they have been corrupted and weakened by their friends." -- Walter Lippmann (1889-1974)
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
BTW, the shirts, chairs and granola bars were probably made in China. Just sayin'.
"Very few established institutions, governments and constitutions... are ever destroyed by their enemies until they have been corrupted and weakened by their friends." -- Walter Lippmann (1889-1974)
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
Yep.
"Very few established institutions, governments and constitutions... are ever destroyed by their enemies until they have been corrupted and weakened by their friends." -- Walter Lippmann (1889-1974)
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
But I guess we're (they're) going to beat that timeline now. Wanna bet?
Antiparty - find out why, think about 'how'
~: / No.
"Very few established institutions, governments and constitutions... are ever destroyed by their enemies until they have been corrupted and weakened by their friends." -- Walter Lippmann (1889-1974)
I haven't heard but has Mayor Rudy shown up on the disaster scene yet? I mean, what a way to grab the 9/11 conscience. Opportunity knocks, yet no candidate answers? How ODD.
"Very few established institutions, governments and constitutions... are ever destroyed by their enemies until they have been corrupted and weakened by their friends." -- Walter Lippmann (1889-1974)
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
ROLFth !!!!! Perfect.
"Very few established institutions, governments and constitutions... are ever destroyed by their enemies until they have been corrupted and weakened by their friends." -- Walter Lippmann (1889-1974)
This just in. FoxNews' Neil Cavuto reports that upon hearing the news of the bridge collapse, Iranians and Syrians, jumped for joy. Distraction duly noted.
"Very few established institutions, governments and constitutions... are ever destroyed by their enemies until they have been corrupted and weakened by their friends." -- Walter Lippmann (1889-1974)
I have a couple questions. We have this video of the bridge collapse and it was seen and released already early today. In what, not even 12 hours? Where after 6 years are the videos of the aircraft impact at the Pentagon that still haven't been released? Where after 11 years are the videos of the bombing at OKC? The NTSB said it was going to save and preserve EVERY piece of the bridge, and may reconstruct it. You mean we are not hiring Tomaseti-Thorton to haul all the steel away to China. Where is Gene Corley, CDI, FEMA, NIST and all the other criminals? I'll tell ya. There not needed here, this truly looks like a failure of some type. Gene Corley and the boys only come in to cover up the government false flag fingerprints.
Mark "I was real close to Building 7 when it fell down... That didn't sound like just a building falling down to me while I was running away from it. There's a lot of eyewitness testimony down there of hearing explosions. [..] and the whole time you're hearing "boom, boom, boom, boom, boom." I think I know an explosion when I hear it... — Former NYC Police Officer and 9/11 Rescue Worker Craig Bartmer
Quote from Murray N. Rothbard "It is also important for the State to inculcate in its subjects an aversion to any outcropping of what is now called 'a conspiracy theory of history.' For a search for 'conspiracies,' as misguided as the results often are, means a search for motives, and an attribution of individual responsibility for the historical misdeeds of ruling elites. If, however, any tyranny or venality, or aggressive war imposed by the State was brought about not by particular State rulers but by mysterious and arcane 'social forces,' or by the imperfect state of the world -- or if, in some way, everyone was guilty -- then there is no point in anyone's becoming indignant or rising up against such misdeeds. Furthermore, a discrediting of 'conspiracy theories' will make the subjects more likely to believe the 'general welfare' reasons that are invariably put forth by the modern State for engaging in aggressive actions." Quote by: Murray N. Rothbard (1926-1995) Dean of the Austrian School of Economics Source: For a New Liberty (New York: Macmillan, 1973), p. 6 "Very few established institutions, governments and constitutions... are ever destroyed by their enemies until they have been corrupted and weakened by their friends." -- Walter Lippmann (1889-1974)
I think it collapse for no reason whatsoever. A spontaneous collapse if you will. A catostrophic event which is in no way predictable or preventable, and something that can happen at any time and place to any kind of structure, regardless of it's construction materials, methods, design or modifications. Therefore no person is suitable to accept either responsibility or blame. Perhaps this bit of sarcasm sufficiently argues that there IS a cause for all events like this bridge collapse. We just don't know the cause of this one.
New tactic Kamala. And 24 hours haven't passed yet. Full force of the Fed Guv already been there and seen. NTSB already stated, don't expect an answer for at least a year. So, how do we 'fix' with funding, that which we don't know caused the failure? Same experts that gave the bridge to 2020, going to be trusted with prioritizaion? There is not enough analysis at this point to fund anything. Especially when this bridge was 50 on the list, and not in 'imminent danger' of collapse. This STINKS.
"Very few established institutions, governments and constitutions... are ever destroyed by their enemies until they have been corrupted and weakened by their friends." -- Walter Lippmann (1889-1974)
Well, I think this is a really cheap shot that you made; contrast what the truthers are doing with 9/11 about 4,000 casualtys and all I wanted to do is get a head start on what the established and well-informed truthers thought of this event early-on. (I am almost inclined to believe that you might have truther tendancies, but I will not make that leap at this time. I will see how you respond to this post first.) Why wait until YEARS after the event, we should ALL be grabbing news accounts and recording ANY video that is being shone - some ONLY once maybe! So you see, there is good reason to ask this question now, to get answers now, and prepare for the future possible cover-up by government and its many stooges. In case you did not notice, a good portion of that bridge over land also fell down. Highly unusual. Almost like they 'pulled it' like some say the towers and WTC 7 was. No?
Highly unusual. Almost like they 'pulled it' like some say the towers and WTC 7 was. No? No, if you look at the video, the farthest spans (over land, are part of the bridge) Video http://www.kare11.com/video/player.aspx?aid=51385&bw= Span snapshots http://www.kare11.com/interactive_bridge_map.aspx
That's right, a good portion of that bridge was over land and it also fell down. Were we dealing with 'weak steel' here?
Yes, and joints, cracks and rusted fasteners.
Statisticly speaking what are the chances so many failures across the entire length would fail at the same time?
"You can not save the Constitution by destroying it."
Well Homeland security has already ruled out terrorism despite the fact they weren't there, didn't see it happen, and know nothing about bridges. The better question right now is how do they know it wasn't terrorism? And what about Chertoff's gut? We really shouldn't ignore the guy's gut feeling about terror attacks, should we? Maybe his gut told him this wasn't a terror attack. Hmmmm...
God is always good! E, By what stretch of common sense, would a city build a monster stadium, if they KNEW, that a bridge, TO IT, was a time bomb? If the neglect was deliberate, who benefitted? It's not the stadium that was built, it was those who built it. Along another line, we have been told today, that the bridge was inspected in '05, '06, and already this year. By what standard did it pass, knowing the increased loads, KNOWING, it is a main corridor for FedEX, to pass to Canada, and down to our favorite nation helping us in this WOT, Mexico? KNOWING, the increased truck traffic... knowing the nearby construction causing additional load... Knowing, it was going it blow, at an incredible opportune time. How in Gods name, could all this be overlooked, considering, it was deemed 'deficient' in '05? The answer shouldn't be decided by unqualified spectators. Though for some, it's an opportunistic kill sport. (edited)
"Very few established institutions, governments and constitutions... are ever destroyed by their enemies until they have been corrupted and weakened by their friends." -- Walter Lippmann (1889-1974)
Great point RickyJ. Well if his gut TELLS him that terror is coming, then a significant bridge collapse, should at least give him gas. And the "cheese" (incident) stands alone.
"Very few established institutions, governments and constitutions... are ever destroyed by their enemies until they have been corrupted and weakened by their friends." -- Walter Lippmann (1889-1974)
The daily headlines tell us the usual suspects benefited...maybe, according to occult beliefs also, Aug 1 was a calendar killin' time too...
Bullshit. The patronizing tone in your original post says it all. You're just upset because you got called on it. Your wiggling above just makes you look pathetic. You took a cheap shot at something the people here take seriously, you got your covers yanked and then you whine about it and try to make it into something that it isn't. If you don't want to live with what you posted at the top of the thread, don't post it to begin with.
.
Comments (78 - 87) not displayed.
Top • Page Up • Full Thread • Page Down • Bottom/LatestDon't you remember? We are the World.
#38. To: Itisa1mosttoolate (#7)
#39. To: Calamity (#38)
#40. To: robin (#39)
#41. To: robin (#39)
Another day with something else on the front page is a good day for the regime.
#42. To: EdCondon (#0)
#43. To: JCHarris (#10)
#44. To: Cynicom, robin, ... (#41)
http://www.cnn.com/video/#/video/us/2007/08/02/vosli.mn.i35w.bridge.collapse.side.view.cnn
#45. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#43)
don't forget the $1 TRILLION [or was it 2 or 3 TRILLION] that DOV ZAKHEIM absconded with when he was comptroller of the pentagram
#46. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#43)
Zakheim, who is a dual Israeli/American citizen and a Shul Rabbi, has stalked the halls of US government for 25 yrs. He has set defense policy which influenced Presidents Reagan, Clinton and Bush Sr. and Jr. This rabid Zionist was the controller of the Pentagon when an audit discovered over a trillion dollars was missing.
#47. To: JCHarris (#46)
#48. To: EdCondon (#0)
#49. To: ghostdogtxn (#48)
The Bush administration refused to fund repairing it after it was declared structurally unsound in 2005. Like the folks in the Twin Towers, those killed on the bridge were killed by George Bush's incompetence and corruption.
#50. To: Calamity (#49)
#51. To: ghostdogtxn (#50)
There's no profit in watching bridges. How's Blackwater or Exxon supposed to make money off of that kind of thing?
#52. To: Calamity (#51)
#53. To: ghostdogtxn (#50)
#54. To: Jethro Tull (#36)
#55. To: Calamity (#53)
#56. To: ghostdogtxn (#52)
got paid for fixing the bridge.
#57. To: EdCondon (#0)
#58. To: EdCondon (#4)
it was a 40 yr old bridge ... due for replacement in 2020.
#59. To: ghostdogtxn (#55)
Probably? Can it be doubted?
#60. To: ghostdogtxn (#55)
#61. To: Calamity (#60)
#62. To: ghostdogtxn (#61)
"I'm jutht tho proud to be here in Minethota. And I can tell you that on Theptember eleventh, 2001 I wath proud to be there too, when I wath needed. And jutht like the heroic polithemen there helped out the people, I want you to know that the heroic therfithmen of Michigan, Er, Minnethota will be moving to help right away. And the terrerrith may have thtruck a blow on Theptember eleventh, but they can't defeat the great American thpirit. Oopth. Gotta Go, I thee a camera!"
#63. To: All (#62)
#64. To: angle, all, robin, esso, Skydrifter, Christine (#44)
#65. To: All (#62)
#66. To: EdCondon (#0)
#67. To: Kamala (#64)
#68. To: ... (#6)
The truther guys really get to you huh? This attempted cheap shot shows it.
#69. To: EdCondon (#68)
(Edited)
In case you did not notice, a good portion of that bridge over land also fell down.
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#70. To: Eoghan (#69)
No, if you look at the video, the farthest spans (over land, are part of the bridge)
#71. To: EdCondon (#70)
Were we dealing with 'weak steel' here?
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#72. To: Eoghan, EdCondon (#71)
#73. To: EdCondon (#0)
(Edited)
Wha happened?
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]
#74. To: Eoghan (#71)
(Edited)
Were we dealing with 'weak steel' here? Yes, and joints, cracks and rusted fasteners.
#75. To: RickyJ (#73)
Well Homeland security has already ruled out terrorism despite the fact they weren't there, didn't see it happen, and know nothing about bridges. The better question right now is how do they know it wasn't terrorism? And what about Chertoff's gut? We really shouldn't ignore the guy's gut feeling about terror attacks, should we? Maybe his gut told him this wasn't a terror attack. Hmmmm...
#76. To: Calamity (#74)
who benefitted? It's not the stadium that was built, it was those who built it.
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#77. To: EdCondon (#68)
... all I wanted to do is get a head start on what the established and well-informed truthers thought of this event early-on.
.
.
.