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Title: Shameless self promotion (EcuadorTreasures.ec)
Source: ecuadortreasures.ec
URL Source: http://ecuadortreasures.ec
Published: Aug 2, 2007
Author: Me
Post Date: 2007-08-02 22:30:42 by Pinguinite
Keywords: None
Views: 2164
Comments: 76

My new web site is online. If anyone's interested is stuff from Ecuador, there are some nice things down here and we'll ship it to you. We'll be expanding our inventory in the near future so what we have is a pretty good start, thanks in part to a wood carver/artisan here who's let us feature his inventory. We can do alpaca clothing, Panama hats (All Panama hats come from Ecuador as they are named for where us Euro-gringos discovered them). The wool jackets are very nice -- heavy and warm, as are the wraps. The lobster carving is especially cool. Just about everything would be a very nice gift item.

Anyway wish us luck and any questions, comments on improvements or things on our site are quite welcome! There is a lot more here than what we show so we might be able to get something strange if you ask, like smoking pipes, jewelry made from watermelon seeds, decorative swords made from sword fish snouts and things like that.

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#36. To: JCHarris (#32) (Edited)

I think Red has it. JCHarris is upset because people respect Penguinite and they think JCHarris is a dumbass jerk.

What JCHarris doesn't understand is that Penguinite earns his respect through his actions. And it's this obvious lack of understanding that prompted me to tell JCH to seek professional help.

JCH is pouting because he feels he should be able to act like a prick and still be liked and respected. JCH feels he is "not equal" because when he acts like a prick, people treat him like a prick.

Hence the whine: "Some animals are more equal than others".

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...  posted on  2007-08-03   21:26:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Zipporah (#31)

See post #36 above. It was meant for you. But it's probably just as well it's posted to JCHarris - he needs to read it.

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...  posted on  2007-08-03   21:29:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#38. To: JCHarris (#30)

And another thing. Penguinite has done a tremendous amount for this site. Without him, the place wouldn't exist. He doesn't bother people here and he doesn't ask for a lot in return.

If he wants to talk about his new project, why the hell should you care prick? The other people like it. Just read the thread above. Is anyone else complaining?

If you don't like the thread, don't read the thread.

But it isn't that is it. You are angry because Penguinite is getting the spotlight with his thread - and drawing attention away from your insecure, childish self. That is the real problem isn't it. So you throw a fit and attack. And everyone can see what is going on.

Is it any wonder that everyone thinks you are a disfunctional nut?

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...  posted on  2007-08-03   21:40:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#39. To: ..., Red Jones (#36)

Well I guess since hes not responded and you've interpreted for me.. sounds like this is the best explanation ..

Zipporah  posted on  2007-08-03   21:44:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#40. To: ... (#38)

I have written a haiku about JCHarris:

Jew hating Jew boy,
Posts Nazi stuff on the site,
We say WTF?

Bunch of internet bums ... grand jury --- opium den ! ~ byeltsin

Minerva  posted on  2007-08-03   22:39:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#41. To: Indrid Cold (#9)

make a 600 to 1000 percent markup on items bought here in the US--it's more common than you'd think.

Dillard's will sell you a sweater they originally retailed for $60 for $8 when they really have to move the merchandise and even at that I do not believe they are selling it under their direct cost.

And that's when I buy it.

Course they have lost $$$ on that article after housing it in their very fine store staffed with great overhead.

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato

tom007  posted on  2007-08-03   22:47:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#42. To: rowdee, robin, pingunite (#19)

While he was there one year, he had an alpaca jacket made for my girlfriend. Pam always said it was so warm, and not so overly heavy, bulky or confining that she couldn't do her chores and stuff in it.

Might interest you to know that the best alpaca wool is a very fine fiber underneath the main coat of the animal. It is analogous to the down feathers from geese, as opposed to the main outer protective feathers. Very nice stuff, the best in the world according to many in the wool industry. Except for , IIRC, Vicuna (sp) wool, but outrageously priced as the animals are not domesticated.

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato

tom007  posted on  2007-08-03   22:56:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#43. To: JCHarris (#30)

Groupie prick.

Kovert Kike!

"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-08-03   23:06:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#44. To: JCHarris (#30)

Groupie prick.

Hidden Heeb!

Bunch of internet bums ... grand jury --- opium den ! ~ byeltsin

Minerva  posted on  2007-08-03   23:15:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#45. To: tom007 (#42)

LOL, tom.........I used to raise longwooled sheep, with crosses on merinos, as well as angora goats for mohair; and produced a monthly newsletter devoted to producers as well as fiber consumers. Did lots of articles on various fibers, i.e., llama, alpaca, dog==even knew of a Swedish lady who made jackets with dog hair--can't remember what breed she had--but super warm. Expensive, as she had to pick out the guard hairs for the downy undercoat.

I even had some of my angoras microned. One of the bucks I had actually microned equivalent to baby mohair. He was one little mohair making machine-- and only had sex on his mind. Horniest little bastard I've ever seen! LOL.

Some of the ladies I knew used rabbit fur.

We even did articles on guard animals, i.e, Great Pyrenees, llamas, donkeys--even heifers (beef cattle types) were good running with sheep.

Anyways, while I can't remember all the details on fineness, I believe cashmere fits in as probably the ultimate in microning.

I believe vicunas, guanacos, alpacas, and llamas are of the same animal family, i.e., camelids. Don't hold me to it, but those three are related, and I vaguely recall them being classified with camels.

rowdee  posted on  2007-08-03   23:15:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#46. To: Minerva (#40)

I have written a haiku about JCHarris:

Jew hating Jew boy, Posts Nazi stuff on the site, We say WTF?

oh Minerva

that is so beautimus

and I think

you have a great future

in writing haikus

and you have

a big heart

love, Ringo

Ringo Blankenship  posted on  2007-08-03   23:17:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#47. To: Ringo Blankenship (#46)

LOL!

Zipporah  posted on  2007-08-03   23:20:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#48. To: Ringo Blankenship (#46)

I thought it was one of my better ones.

Bunch of internet bums ... grand jury --- opium den ! ~ byeltsin

Minerva  posted on  2007-08-03   23:23:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#49. To: Ringo Blankenship (#46)

I read all this
inhumanity to man
and want to buy a speedboat

"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-08-03   23:39:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#50. To: rowdee (#45)

believe vicunas, guanacos, alpacas, and llamas are of the same animal family, i.e., camelids. Don't hold me to it, but those three are related, and I vaguely recall them being classified with camels.

Count on it, that is correct.

As a wooly, can you share your thought on the cashimere being the "down" of the alpaca fur?

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato

tom007  posted on  2007-08-03   23:47:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#51. To: Dakmar (#49)

and want to buy a speedboat

I like the Zen like juxtapositioning of the material and the superflous. It is profound.

(Am sure glad Neil made those embaressing red mis spelling lines go away after ya post).

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato

tom007  posted on  2007-08-03   23:51:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#52. To: Dakmar (#49)

i am actually buckeroo. christine won't let me post here as buckeroo so i use this name.

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2007-08-03   23:51:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#53. To: Morgana le Fay (#52)

I'm not herbert.

Just thought you should know.

"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-08-04   0:02:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#54. To: Dakmar (#53)

EdCondom thinks you are a real person.

Morgana le Fay  posted on  2007-08-04   0:03:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: Morgana le Fay (#54)

He prolly bought the cereal box from China... evil monkey prize.

"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-08-04   0:07:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: tom007 (#50)

If memory serves me well, cashmere is the fine, inner hair of angora crossed goats and/or naturally occuring in breeds/cross breds. At one time, I was contemplating getting some 'goats' and breeding my two mohair bucks to them to try to develop some cashmere bearing goats. They can be used for weed control, so there would have been a dual use of them.

I know I have tons of this sort of information stuck out in boxes in storage. I was doing that newsletter in the mid to late 80s.

I decided against the cashmere because of the lack of consistent purchasers. They wanted to argue too much between what they would call cashmere and what they wouldn't. They wanted to go beyond micro sizing.

It was enough that I was the mover and shaker behind organizing the Montana Mohair Producers Assn in order to develop a mohair market, transport system, and selling of excess livestock. I want to say cashmere micron is perhaps something like .12. My little mohair buck was something like .17 or .18. So you can see it was even a good bit finer than kid mohair which is one of the ultra fibers.

Again, this is all memory.

As to fibers, merino wool or rambouillet wool is supposed to be the finest of wools. And instead of micron count, they use crimp or something like that. I had a merino that had a count under that system of around 75. Very very soft. I raised Romney and cross breds for the long colored wool. It was woundrous and soft, but the count was something like 50 - 55.

More than the actual crimp or micron is how the fiber is processed....how the individual fibers are laid out for spinning and weaving textiles. Even a fine merino wool can 'itch' if the fabric has fibers lying the wrong way--it is in the combing process.

With all that said, I much preferred to raise the critters, have them shorn, clean the fleeces, and show them or sell them. I concentrated on handspinning markets, though I must say the wool buyer for the wool pool I was in told me he would buy every pound of wool I could raise that was like the fleeces from two of my merino/romney cross ewes. He preferred them over the columbia, rambouillet or merino straightbreds.

A lot of the spinning ladies didn't like working with really fine fibers--they generally have to add oil to them because they are dryer than wool.

Ag

rowdee  posted on  2007-08-04   0:45:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: rowdee (#56)

cashmere is the fine, inner hair of angora crossed goats and/or naturally occuring in breeds/cross br

The good stuff. I had a sweater and wore it until it dissipated. Warm in the cold and breathing in the warm. Really the best material.

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato

tom007  posted on  2007-08-04   1:15:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: tom007 (#57)

One of the reasons cashmere is so costly is due to the 'guard hairs' that have to be removed from the fleece. I don't recall at the time I was interested that anyone had developed a sure fire way to separate them from the cashmere.

Its sort of like the black hair that gets into a sheep's fleece. It can ruin a whole run of fabric because it does not dye the same, does not lie the same, etc.

Its because of the core of the interior of the individual fibers, as I recall. Medullation? Well...anyways.

And just because you have a goat, say the momma, that has cashmere, doesn't mean that all of her offspring will have cashmere. :( So its the pits until you get a herd developed.

rowdee  posted on  2007-08-04   1:31:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: Dakmar (#28)

I especially like the ships, but being as they are balsa I don't know how long they'd last once kitty discovered she could send them sailing.

They are very light, and probably wouldn't stand up to a giant feline attack for more than 15 seconds or so. Definitely something to keep on a high shelf if you have a cat.

Pinguinite.com     EcuadorTreasures.ec

Pinguinite  posted on  2007-08-04   2:46:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: ... (#22) (Edited)

Look at Stew Mac. There are a lot of woods that will work. You need to call an expert to find out. The use a lot of swamp ash here, but there are others that work as well or better. Zeta Violin uses other exotic tone woods. Lots of guys build custon solid bodies and I would just find a few on the web and ask them what they would like to see. You might have a line on a wood that is hard for them go get.

Okay, in a few minutes searching I've not found any woods listed that are generally available here, but I don't know much about this business so I think I would need to talk to the right people. I do know teak is used for acoustic instruments and there's a source of that here. Very interesting possibilities. Thanks.

I'm certain the bodies can be made here. Just a question of whether the wood is acceptable.

Pinguinite.com     EcuadorTreasures.ec

Pinguinite  posted on  2007-08-04   3:04:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: christine (#25)

He's an "Associate" and friend and, therefore, welcomed to share with us his new project. ;)

Thank you Chrissy! ;^)

Pinguinite.com     EcuadorTreasures.ec

Pinguinite  posted on  2007-08-04   3:07:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: tom007 (#42)

Except for , IIRC, Vicuna (sp) wool, but outrageously priced as the animals are not domesticated.

Exactly right. Vicuna (with the spanish 'n~') is not domesticated and can only be sheered once every 3 years. The fiber is so good the animals don't need to grow it quickly to stay warm, hense both it's rarity and quality.

It's a protected animal in these parts. I don't expect to have that but... we'll see.

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Pinguinite  posted on  2007-08-04   3:16:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Pinguinite (#62)

Exactly right. Vicuna (with the spanish 'n~') is not domesticated and can only be sheered once every 3 years. The fiber is so good the animals don't need to grow it quickly to stay warm, hense both it's rarity and quality.

It's a protected animal in these parts. I don't expect to have that but... we'll see.

Hard to imagine anything being better than cashmere, I had a button up sweater, frayed and delapidated years ago, it was easy to tell the material was superior.

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato

tom007  posted on  2007-08-04   21:28:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: Pinguinite (#62)

I bot one of those really heavy sweaters from the Otavelo (sp) markets years ago (1984) and when it is really cold here that's what I wear. It has all kinda of straw in the wool,and smells like sheep, but damm if you want warm that is the the article to wear.

Think I paid all of $5.00 in the currency crisis of 1983.

"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato

tom007  posted on  2007-08-04   22:00:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: tom007 (#64)

It has all kinda of straw in the wool,and smells like sheep, but damm if you want warm that is the the article to wear.

Have yet to see any thing of that description. All the wool jackets we've seen are straight wool and smell fine.

Pinguinite.com     EcuadorTreasures.ec

Pinguinite  posted on  2007-08-05   4:19:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Pinguinite (#65)

Neil is that you?

I'm interested in an alpaca wrap, I'm thinking it's a shawl of some kind? That would be great to wear in the house during winter here. I don't like wool though as it's itchy, I'm thinking alpaca would be softer?

Diana  posted on  2007-08-05   5:17:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Pinguinite (#65)

There is a lady's sweater blue and a lady's sweater copper. Are those alpaca?

Diana  posted on  2007-08-05   5:25:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Minerva (#40)

I have written a haiku about JCHarris:

Jew hating Jew boy,

Posts Nazi stuff on the site,

We say WTF?

Obsessed with the Jew

All is the fault of the Jew

But JC? Perfect!

“When I am the weaker, I ask you for my freedom, because that is your principle; but when I am the stronger, I take away your freedom, because that is my principle.”-Louis Veuillot

YertleTurtle  posted on  2007-08-05   10:03:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: tom007 (#41)

Dillard's will sell you a sweater they originally retailed for $60 for $8 when they really have to move the merchandise and even at that I do not believe they are selling it under their direct cost.

Sure, or witness Shopko's perpetual 70% off jewelery sale.

The "Department of Defense" has never won a war. The "War Department" was undefeated.

Indrid Cold  posted on  2007-08-05   10:45:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: YertleTurtle (#68) (Edited)

Obsessed with the Jew

All is the fault of the Jew

But JC? Perfect!

Quoting from BAC: ROTFLOL!

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...  posted on  2007-08-05   12:31:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Diana (#66)

Yes, it's me, Neil.

I'm interested in an alpaca wrap, I'm thinking it's a shawl of some kind?

Yes, it's really a shawl. It's the kind of thing you'd through around yourself when your watching TV, reading a book, or out on the porch on a cool evening.

That would be great to wear in the house during winter here. I don't like wool though as it's itchy, I'm thinking alpaca would be softer?

Alpaca is very soft. Very. Nothing like wool at all.

Pinguinite.com     EcuadorTreasures.ec

Pinguinite  posted on  2007-08-05   13:18:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Pinguinite (#71)

Pipes? They have pipes down there? Someone can carve me one? Meershaum? Boy, that would be nice!

“When I am the weaker, I ask you for my freedom, because that is your principle; but when I am the stronger, I take away your freedom, because that is my principle.”-Louis Veuillot

YertleTurtle  posted on  2007-08-05   14:17:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Diana (#67)

There is a lady's sweater blue and a lady's sweater copper. Are those alpaca?

Hi Diana, They are a blend of alpaca and cotton.

Pinguinite.com     EcuadorTreasures.ec

Pinguinite  posted on  2007-08-05   17:43:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: YertleTurtle (#72)

Pipes? They have pipes down there? Someone can carve me one? Meershaum? Boy, that would be nice!

There are lots of pipes, big and small of many different types of art, some of which is kindof strange, to put it mildly. Meershaum, however, doesn't appear to be native to this continent so I doubt we'd be able to get anything made of that. Those I've seen here are made of woods, bamboo and ceramics.

There is a white nut here (tagua) that is very commonly used for art carvings, and it would probably resemble polished Meershaum, but I'd guess it is not suitable for use since as an organic material probably wouldn't stand up to the heat. As a pipe, tagua is likely probably good only for show.

Pinguinite.com     EcuadorTreasures.ec

Pinguinite  posted on  2007-08-05   18:21:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: Pinguinite (#73)

The prices are really good, I'm going to buy a wrap and one of those wool jackets with zipper and hood, those are really nice looking. Those would be great to wear in the house in winter here, dress warm and save on heating oil which is super expensive and keeps going up.

Diana  posted on  2007-08-05   23:02:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Diana (#75)

The prices are really good, I'm going to buy a wrap and one of those wool jackets with zipper and hood, those are really nice looking.

Both the jackets and shawl are very nice. As I think I mentioned on the thread, most everyone I gifted the jackets to in the past have reported getting compliments on them. We're definitely going to get more of those in. I expect they will sell quite well.

Pinguinite.com     EcuadorTreasures.ec

Pinguinite  posted on  2007-08-06   0:16:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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