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Title: History Channel to Air 9/11 Conspiracies Special
Source: History Channel
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Published: Aug 3, 2007
Author: History Channel
Post Date: 2007-08-03 10:31:04 by Ringo Blankenship
Keywords: None
Views: 12429
Comments: 246

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An Internet search for "9/11 conspiracy theories" yields nearly two million hits. Were the attacks on 9/11 perpetrated by the Bush Administration to advance its own interests? Could a government missile have hit the Pentagon? As outrageous as these ideas may sound, many people believe them. Why do these theories arise in the first place? An interview with James Miegs, Editor-in-Chief of Popular Mechanics, who refutes many of these theories. Watch as experts in the fields of aeronautics, engineering and the military put these theories to the test.

Rating: TVPG Running Time: 120 minutes

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#75. To: Flintlock (#71)

Now that you've been outed, does that mean I'll be free from your hideous mind-control techniques?

What part of Sid Vicious, towelhead closet do you not underst...you're getting sleepy, yes, that's it...All together now, ALL TOGETHER NOW! ALL TOGETHER NOW!

Ringo Blankenship  posted on  2007-08-04   1:00:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Ringo Blankenship (#75)

oh my beloved ice cream bar, how I love to lick your creamy center

"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-08-04   1:11:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: Dakmar (#73)

Are you Ed Condom?

That depends

If you double up my weekly brain-gravy injections, I'll be his daddy.

MySpace banner for RonPaul2008

Flintlock  posted on  2007-08-04   1:15:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: Flintlock (#77)

I cant promise anything of the sort. Dont ever tell anyone about fight club.

"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-08-04   1:18:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: Flintlock, Dakmire (#77)

If you double up my weekly brain-gravy injections

That explains A LOT about you blokes; bonkers, twits, twats, wankers, punk shockers, lamers and losers, cabbage-patch, GI Joe and Berbie doll molesters, that mingle there in some disgusting orgy of idiocy ... ...

I stole that line by the way; credit must to to: http://aepalizage.blogspot.com/

EdCondon  posted on  2007-08-04   1:27:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: EdCondon (#79)

That explains A LOT about you blokes; bonkers, twits, twats, wankers, punk shockers, lamers and losers, cabbage-patch, GI Joe and Berbie doll molesters, that mingle there in some disgusting orgy of idiocy ... ...

I stole that line by the way; credit must to to: http://aepalizage.blogspot.com/

Oh now that's a good one, Buck...

Ringo Blankenship  posted on  2007-08-04   1:33:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: EdCondon (#79)

Hi Ed,

Have you given any more thought to the idea that Operation Mockingbird was a real CIA program?

Hearst came before OpMock (my abbreviatiation), so I'm not going to argue about Popular Mechanics, but I believe National Review was started by CIA. I'm not going to look up anything for you, you've acted in bad faith. I'll smile as two or three others search internet for this information, that I've capitalized, hint, hint.

"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-08-04   1:41:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: Flintlock (#77)

How's it going, cracker?

Fred Mertz  posted on  2007-08-04   9:57:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: EdCondon (#11)

In 1963 after the Kennedy assassination Life magazine published 3 photos from the Zapruder film in reverse order so that the general public would believe the "official theory" of a lone assassin.

When people with actual brains began saying and proving that WTC Towers 1, 2 and 7 were taken down by controlled demolitions, Popular Mecahnics published a piece of trash by Michael Chertoff's cousin saying that the buidlings collapsed by spontaneous combustion or some such nonsense. Popular Mechanics and Life magazine are guilty of conspiring to cover up treason and murder.

William Pepper who represented the MLK family in their wrongful death lawsuit against Loyd Jowers said that the media should all be considered as unindicted conspirators.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2007-08-04   12:08:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Horse (#83)

In 1963 after the Kennedy assassination Life magazine published 3 photos from the Zapruder film in reverse order so that the general public would believe the "official theory" of a lone assassin.

The Dallas Police that day - along with many other law officers - had no doubt in their minds that they had the right guy.

Even Lee Harvey's OWN BROTHER, who had a chance to talk to LHO while in DPD custody knew his nutty brother did it.

On another note -

- have you ever seen the affidavit from the guy who was one floor below Oswald in the Texas School Book Depository building and heard everything?

The guy heard the shots, heard the bolt action being worked, and heard the spent brass shell casings hit the wooden (yes, wooden) floors of the TSBDB.

EdCondon  posted on  2007-08-04   23:33:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Horse (#83)

... proving that WTC Towers ... Popular Mecahnics published a

Question: What is the decrease in tensile strength for 'typical' structural steel at 600 degrees C?

Folow-up: What is the purpose of sprayed-on fire resistant/fire retardant?

EdCondon  posted on  2007-08-04   23:38:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: EdCondon (#84)

1) The greatest living sniper in the Marines, Carlos Hathcock, tried several times at Quantico to re-create the shooting of JFK from the Texas School Book Depository window that Oswald was alleged to have made. Not one of the best snipers in the MArine Corps could re-create the shots the Warren Commission claimed were made.

2) Go to http://www.WTC7.net and look at the collapse videos. Before a fire gets to 6,000 or even 4,000 degrees it must go past 900 degrees at which point the windows would have popped out and melted as steel is more resistant than glass. The only way you can get to 4,000 without going past 900 degrees is with a cutting agent, such as, thermite and thermate. Placed at a 45 degree angle, the thermite would cut through steel like a hot knife through butter. But you would still need explosives charges to speed the collapse. The 47 story WTC Tower 7 collapsed in 6.5 seconds even though we see no evidence of either damaged windows from a 900 degree fire or any structural damage from being struck by an airliner. To collapse at nearly the speed of a body in free fall is impossible except in a controlled demolition. Look at it mathematically, all of the many points of contact on each floor had to reach the same temperature 4,000 degrees at the same time (i.e. within 2 seconds of eah other.) Now what is that probability? One in a hundred, one in a thousand? But that happened on all 47 floors at the same time. Whar is that probability? 1/100 or 1/1,000 times itself 47 times. That by definition is a controlled demolition. Please look at the collapse videos of WTC 7 before responding. They should also have something about the 24 story steel girdered office building in Madrid that burned for 36 hours without the steel frame collapsing.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2007-08-05   0:20:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Horse (#86)

Go to http://www.WTC7.net and look at the

No ... I asked a simple question that any first year civil engineering and many high-school students could answer ... that that was: how much tensile strength does structural-grade steel lose at 600 deg. C?

EdCondon  posted on  2007-08-05   1:14:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Horse (#86)

The greatest living sniper in the Marines, Carlos

So, does that mean you are unaware of the affidavit from the guy who was one floor below Oswald in the Texas School Book Depository building and heard everything? You know, the one I explained where the guy heard the shots, heard the bolt action being worked, and heard the spent brass shell casings hit the wooden (yes, wooden) floors of the TSBDB.

It is okay to admit that you don't know these things, that is why we are here, on these forums, as this is not 'real life' ...

EdCondon  posted on  2007-08-05   1:18:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Horse (#86)

How about a remedial course in mech enginnering -

Link to MIT site

2.002 Mechanics and Materials II

Course Description

This course provides Mechanical Engineering students with an awareness of various responses exhibited by solid engineering materials when subjected to mechanical and thermal loadings; an introduction to the physical mechanisms associated with design-limiting behavior of engineering materials, especially stiffness, strength, toughness, and durability; an understanding of basic mechanical properties of engineering materials, testing procedures used to quantify these properties, and ways in which these properties characterize material response; quantitative skills to deal with materials-limiting problems in engineering design; and a basis for materials selection in mechanical design.

EdCondon  posted on  2007-08-05   1:33:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: EdCondon (#89)

How about listening to the Truth instead of people on the dole from the government and the CFR-AIPAC controlled Foundations?

Welcome to Architects & Engineers for 9/11 Truth! http://www.ae911truth.org/ You probably didn't bother looking at the www.WTC7 collapse videos. Please don't waste my time any more.

The Truth of 911 Shall Set You Free From The Lie

Horse  posted on  2007-08-05   2:00:43 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: Horse (#90)

How about listening to the Truth

Why?

Does their steel have different properties than someone elses?

That's the question I think needs to be addressed.

And it's kinda telling that you can't answer a simple question a high-school kid could answer ...

EdCondon  posted on  2007-08-05   2:04:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: Horse (#90)

Blah blah- Turkish built high rise apartment blocks- built in the most shoddy manner with sub standard material don't collapse in 9.0 earthquakes as completely as those towers did after being hit by basically big aluminum tubes and small fires burning for 40 minutes.

Then of course there is building seven- enough said. Towers don't explode like that and come tumbling down - all three in the same manner despite being hit in different areas and one not hit all. ITS ABUSRD ON ITS FACE.

The Daily Burkeman1

Burkeman1  posted on  2007-08-05   2:14:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: , *9-11* (#87)

Paid shill alert!

http://www.911truth.org/article.php?story=20041112144051451

Ron Paul for President

robin  posted on  2007-08-05   5:15:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#94. To: Horse (#86)

1) The greatest living sniper in the Marines, Carlos Hathcock, tried several times at Quantico to re-create the shooting of JFK from the Texas School Book Depository window that Oswald was alleged to have made. Not one of the best snipers in the Marine Corps could re-create the shots the Warren Commission claimed were made.

The internet wasn't around during the JFK assassination, but it is now helping to get important questions out.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3967677791931129793

Black Ops and PsyOps just aren't working as well as they once did. But the truth rings clear. It's why Ron Paul's momentum is from the grassroots efforts of ordinary folks on the internet.

Ron Paul for President

robin  posted on  2007-08-05   5:22:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: EdCondon (#91)

a simple question a high-school kid could answer ...

Uncle Ed, you'd be better off collecting boys soiled underwear.

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2007-08-05   7:50:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Ringo Blankenship (#0)

An Internet search for "9/11 conspiracy theories" yields nearly two million hits. Were the attacks on 9/11 perpetrated by the Bush Administration to advance its own interests? Could a government missile have hit the Pentagon? As outrageous as these ideas may sound, many people believe them. Why do these theories arise in the first place? An interview with James Miegs, Editor-in-Chief of Popular Mechanics, who refutes many of these theories. Watch as experts in the fields of aeronautics, engineering and the military put these theories to the test.

The purpose of this documentary is to make sure that wacko 9/11 conspiracy theories remain wacko 9/11 conspiracy theories.

And that's a good thing.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-05   10:43:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Mister Clean (#96)

Do you think they will show/analyze WTC 7 coming down?

Ringo Blankenship  posted on  2007-08-05   23:36:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Burkeman1, Mr. Clean, EdCondon (#92)

Blah blah- Turkish built high rise apartment blocks- built in the most shoddy manner with sub standard material don't collapse in 9.0 earthquakes as completely as those towers did after being hit by basically big aluminum tubes and small fires burning for 40 minutes.

Then of course there is building seven- enough said. Towers don't explode like that and come tumbling down - all three in the same manner despite being hit in different areas and one not hit all. ITS ABUSRD ON ITS FACE.

good lord, can you believe there's anyone with two working brain cells who cannot see that?

christine  posted on  2007-08-06   0:04:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Ringo Blankenship (#97)

I like people looking into the 911 stuff. There are many unexplained things in the official story. These problems could be innocent or they could range all the way to a dark conspiracy. I can't say, and for that reason I think the more eyes on the subject the better.

And I don't see any harm coming out of the informal investigations. What's wrong with trying to fact check a government story? Especially if the government is telling the truth.

What makes me suspicious is the angry and hostile reaction that some people have to a study of this matter - and the determined effort I see to stop people from asking questions. I have to wonder where this is coming from. I've noticed that goobs and Freepers rarely form opinions on their own.

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...  posted on  2007-08-06   0:06:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: ... (#99)

What makes me suspicious is the angry and hostile reaction that some people have to a study of this matter - and the determined effort I see to stop people from asking questions. I have to wonder where this is coming from.

Yep - it's the Fruit of the Forbidden Tree phenomenon. It's like when a raunchy rap cd isn't selling too great and then they slap on a "Warning: Parental Advisory is Advised" label and the thing starts selling like hotcakes.

Ringo Blankenship  posted on  2007-08-06   0:39:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Ringo Blankenship (#97)

Do you think they will show/analyze WTC 7 coming down?

It will probably get some attention but nowhere near enough to please the typical conspiracy theorist.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-06   11:19:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Mister Clean (#101)

If they even show video of WTC 7 coming down, I will be greatly surprised.

Ringo Blankenship  posted on  2007-08-06   11:41:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Ringo Blankenship (#102)

If they even show video of WTC 7 coming down, I will be greatly surprised.

One thing is for sure, the documentary won't change anything. The 9/11 "truth" movement has peaked.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-06   11:45:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Mister Clean (#103)

Yes, it might be risky to show/analyze the collapse of WTC 7 to a national audience. I doubt History Channel will be allowed to do so. They probably don't want a repeat of the Larry Silverstein "pull it" PBS fiasco.

Ringo Blankenship  posted on  2007-08-06   11:51:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Ringo Blankenship (#104)

They probably don't want a repeat of the Larry Silverstein "pull it" PBS fiasco.

There was no "fiasco" involved in Silverstein making that comment.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-06   11:57:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: christine (#98)

You don't have to be an engineer or an architect. Anyone who has stacked toy blocks smells a rat.

Look, I don't even suffer the deniers anymore. They are one of two things- shill trolling liars or stupid dopes who don't trust their own eyes and common effing sense.

It really is too obvious to even discuss.

The Daily Burkeman1

Burkeman1  posted on  2007-08-06   14:42:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Burkeman1 (#106)

Look, I don't even suffer the deniers anymore. They are one of two things- shill trolling liars or stupid dopes who don't trust their own eyes and common effing sense.

It really is too obvious to even discuss.

well said. i'm going to do the same. their lack of shame irks me though.

christine  posted on  2007-08-06   14:44:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: christine (#107)

their lack of shame irks me though.

Well, they have to be shameless when advancing absurdity. This song basically sums up what they are doing- denying the plainly obvious with a straight face while hoping we accept it because we just can't believe anyone would lie so plainly to our faces:

Honey came in and she caught me red-handed

Creeping with the girl next door

Picture this we were both butt naked

Banging on the bathroom floor

How could I forget that I had

Given her an extra key

All this time she was standing there she never

Took her eyes off me

How you fi give the woman access to your villa

Trespass and a witness all the hackling of the pilla

You better watch your back before she turn into a killer

Let’s review the situation that you’re caught up inna

Now to be a true player you got to know how to play

If she even say a night convince her say a day

Never admit to a word weh she say

And if she claim a you tell her baby no way

But she caught me on the counter¡­ wasn’t me

She saw me bangin’ on the sofa¡­ wasn’t me

I even had her in the shower¡­ wasn’t me

She even caught me on camera¡­ wasn’t me

She saw the marks on my shoulder¡­ wasn’t me

Heard the words that I told her¡­ wasn’t me

Heard the screams getting louder¡­ wasn’t me

She stayed until it was over

Honey came in and she caught me red-handed

Creeping with the girl next door

Picture this we were both butt naked

Banging on the bathroom floor

I had tried to keep her from what

She was about to see

Why should she believe me when i

Told her it wasn’t me

Mek she know say that she really nah no right fi vex

A never you she see a mek de gigolo flex

A smaddi else whe favor you inna de complex

Seeing is believing so ya betta change ya specs

You know whe a go bring hole heap of thing from in de past

All the little evidence you better know fi mask

Quick pon you answer and know how fi talk

And if she pack the gun you better know fi run fast

But she caught me on the counter¡­ wasn’t me

She saw me bagin’ on the sofa¡­ wasn’t me

I even had her in the shower¡­ wasn’t me

She even caught me on camera¡­ wasn’t me

She saw the marks on my shoulder¡­ wasn’t me

Heard the words that I told her¡­ wasn’t me

Heard the screams getting louder¡­ wasn’t me

She stayed until it was over

Honey came in and she caught me red-handed

Creeping with the girl next door

Picture this we were both butt naked

Banging on the bathroom floor

How could I forget that I had

Given her an extra key

All this time she was standing there she never

Took her eyes off me

Want to tell her that I’m sorry for the

Pain that I’ve caused

I’ve been listening to your reason

It makes no sense at all

Need to tell her that I’m sorry for the

Pain that I’ve caused

You may think that you’re a player

But you’re completely lost

Cause I say¡­

Honey came in and she caught me red-handed

Creeping with the girl next door

Picture this we were both butt naked

Banging on the bathroom floor

How could I forget that I had

Given her an extra key

All this time she was standing there she never

Took her eyes off me

The Daily Burkeman1

Burkeman1  posted on  2007-08-06   14:56:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Mister Clean (#105)

There was no "fiasco" involved in Silverstein making that comment.

"You know we've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is, is pull it.' Uh, and they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse."

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Words have meaning.

Note the words, "decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse."

Clearly Silverstein was associating the decision to pull with the result, the collapse.

Note Siverstein did not say, they made that decision to pull and then the firemen were evacuated and then hours later we watched the building collapse.

"Uh, and they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse."

honway  posted on  2007-08-06   15:02:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Mister Clean (#105)

They probably don't want a repeat of the Larry Silverstein "pull it" PBS fiasco.

There was no "fiasco" involved in Silverstein making that comment.

But your only agenda is your lunch of salmon and spinach? No one believes that. Not with absurd replies like this one about Lucky Larry.

Ron Paul for President

robin  posted on  2007-08-06   15:06:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: robin (#110)

He's probably hoping 'lurkers' believe that...

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-08-06   15:13:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: All (#109)

There was no "fiasco" involved in Silverstein making that comment.

Here's some of the best evidence showing what Silverstein's words meant.

"You know we've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is, is pull it.' Uh, and they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse."

honway  posted on  2007-08-06   15:23:03 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: robin (#110)

Israel backed by army of cyber-soldiers

"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-08-06   15:24:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Burkeman1 (#108)

Shaggadelic, man...

Ringo Blankenship  posted on  2007-08-06   15:30:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: who knows what evil, robin, Burkeman1 (#111)

He's probably hoping 'lurkers' believe that...

86% of Americans doubt the official tale while 63% believe absolutely it was an inside job.

christine  posted on  2007-08-06   15:45:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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