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Title: History Channel to Air 9/11 Conspiracies Special
Source: History Channel
URL Source: [None]
Published: Aug 3, 2007
Author: History Channel
Post Date: 2007-08-03 10:31:04 by Ringo Blankenship
Keywords: None
Views: 13347
Comments: 246

UPCOMING SHOWS

Sunday, August 12 08:00 PM Monday, August13 12:00 PM


An Internet search for "9/11 conspiracy theories" yields nearly two million hits. Were the attacks on 9/11 perpetrated by the Bush Administration to advance its own interests? Could a government missile have hit the Pentagon? As outrageous as these ideas may sound, many people believe them. Why do these theories arise in the first place? An interview with James Miegs, Editor-in-Chief of Popular Mechanics, who refutes many of these theories. Watch as experts in the fields of aeronautics, engineering and the military put these theories to the test.

Rating: TVPG Running Time: 120 minutes

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#94. To: Horse (#86)

1) The greatest living sniper in the Marines, Carlos Hathcock, tried several times at Quantico to re-create the shooting of JFK from the Texas School Book Depository window that Oswald was alleged to have made. Not one of the best snipers in the Marine Corps could re-create the shots the Warren Commission claimed were made.

The internet wasn't around during the JFK assassination, but it is now helping to get important questions out.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3967677791931129793

Black Ops and PsyOps just aren't working as well as they once did. But the truth rings clear. It's why Ron Paul's momentum is from the grassroots efforts of ordinary folks on the internet.

Ron Paul for President

robin  posted on  2007-08-05   5:22:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#95. To: EdCondon (#91)

a simple question a high-school kid could answer ...

Uncle Ed, you'd be better off collecting boys soiled underwear.

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2007-08-05   7:50:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#96. To: Ringo Blankenship (#0)

An Internet search for "9/11 conspiracy theories" yields nearly two million hits. Were the attacks on 9/11 perpetrated by the Bush Administration to advance its own interests? Could a government missile have hit the Pentagon? As outrageous as these ideas may sound, many people believe them. Why do these theories arise in the first place? An interview with James Miegs, Editor-in-Chief of Popular Mechanics, who refutes many of these theories. Watch as experts in the fields of aeronautics, engineering and the military put these theories to the test.

The purpose of this documentary is to make sure that wacko 9/11 conspiracy theories remain wacko 9/11 conspiracy theories.

And that's a good thing.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-05   10:43:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#97. To: Mister Clean (#96)

Do you think they will show/analyze WTC 7 coming down?

Ringo Blankenship  posted on  2007-08-05   23:36:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#98. To: Burkeman1, Mr. Clean, EdCondon (#92)

Blah blah- Turkish built high rise apartment blocks- built in the most shoddy manner with sub standard material don't collapse in 9.0 earthquakes as completely as those towers did after being hit by basically big aluminum tubes and small fires burning for 40 minutes.

Then of course there is building seven- enough said. Towers don't explode like that and come tumbling down - all three in the same manner despite being hit in different areas and one not hit all. ITS ABUSRD ON ITS FACE.

good lord, can you believe there's anyone with two working brain cells who cannot see that?

christine  posted on  2007-08-06   0:04:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#99. To: Ringo Blankenship (#97)

I like people looking into the 911 stuff. There are many unexplained things in the official story. These problems could be innocent or they could range all the way to a dark conspiracy. I can't say, and for that reason I think the more eyes on the subject the better.

And I don't see any harm coming out of the informal investigations. What's wrong with trying to fact check a government story? Especially if the government is telling the truth.

What makes me suspicious is the angry and hostile reaction that some people have to a study of this matter - and the determined effort I see to stop people from asking questions. I have to wonder where this is coming from. I've noticed that goobs and Freepers rarely form opinions on their own.

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...  posted on  2007-08-06   0:06:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#100. To: ... (#99)

What makes me suspicious is the angry and hostile reaction that some people have to a study of this matter - and the determined effort I see to stop people from asking questions. I have to wonder where this is coming from.

Yep - it's the Fruit of the Forbidden Tree phenomenon. It's like when a raunchy rap cd isn't selling too great and then they slap on a "Warning: Parental Advisory is Advised" label and the thing starts selling like hotcakes.

Ringo Blankenship  posted on  2007-08-06   0:39:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#101. To: Ringo Blankenship (#97)

Do you think they will show/analyze WTC 7 coming down?

It will probably get some attention but nowhere near enough to please the typical conspiracy theorist.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-06   11:19:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#102. To: Mister Clean (#101)

If they even show video of WTC 7 coming down, I will be greatly surprised.

Ringo Blankenship  posted on  2007-08-06   11:41:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#103. To: Ringo Blankenship (#102)

If they even show video of WTC 7 coming down, I will be greatly surprised.

One thing is for sure, the documentary won't change anything. The 9/11 "truth" movement has peaked.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-06   11:45:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#104. To: Mister Clean (#103)

Yes, it might be risky to show/analyze the collapse of WTC 7 to a national audience. I doubt History Channel will be allowed to do so. They probably don't want a repeat of the Larry Silverstein "pull it" PBS fiasco.

Ringo Blankenship  posted on  2007-08-06   11:51:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#105. To: Ringo Blankenship (#104)

They probably don't want a repeat of the Larry Silverstein "pull it" PBS fiasco.

There was no "fiasco" involved in Silverstein making that comment.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-06   11:57:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#106. To: christine (#98)

You don't have to be an engineer or an architect. Anyone who has stacked toy blocks smells a rat.

Look, I don't even suffer the deniers anymore. They are one of two things- shill trolling liars or stupid dopes who don't trust their own eyes and common effing sense.

It really is too obvious to even discuss.

The Daily Burkeman1

Burkeman1  posted on  2007-08-06   14:42:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#107. To: Burkeman1 (#106)

Look, I don't even suffer the deniers anymore. They are one of two things- shill trolling liars or stupid dopes who don't trust their own eyes and common effing sense.

It really is too obvious to even discuss.

well said. i'm going to do the same. their lack of shame irks me though.

christine  posted on  2007-08-06   14:44:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#108. To: christine (#107)

their lack of shame irks me though.

Well, they have to be shameless when advancing absurdity. This song basically sums up what they are doing- denying the plainly obvious with a straight face while hoping we accept it because we just can't believe anyone would lie so plainly to our faces:

Honey came in and she caught me red-handed

Creeping with the girl next door

Picture this we were both butt naked

Banging on the bathroom floor

How could I forget that I had

Given her an extra key

All this time she was standing there she never

Took her eyes off me

How you fi give the woman access to your villa

Trespass and a witness all the hackling of the pilla

You better watch your back before she turn into a killer

Let’s review the situation that you’re caught up inna

Now to be a true player you got to know how to play

If she even say a night convince her say a day

Never admit to a word weh she say

And if she claim a you tell her baby no way

But she caught me on the counter¡­ wasn’t me

She saw me bangin’ on the sofa¡­ wasn’t me

I even had her in the shower¡­ wasn’t me

She even caught me on camera¡­ wasn’t me

She saw the marks on my shoulder¡­ wasn’t me

Heard the words that I told her¡­ wasn’t me

Heard the screams getting louder¡­ wasn’t me

She stayed until it was over

Honey came in and she caught me red-handed

Creeping with the girl next door

Picture this we were both butt naked

Banging on the bathroom floor

I had tried to keep her from what

She was about to see

Why should she believe me when i

Told her it wasn’t me

Mek she know say that she really nah no right fi vex

A never you she see a mek de gigolo flex

A smaddi else whe favor you inna de complex

Seeing is believing so ya betta change ya specs

You know whe a go bring hole heap of thing from in de past

All the little evidence you better know fi mask

Quick pon you answer and know how fi talk

And if she pack the gun you better know fi run fast

But she caught me on the counter¡­ wasn’t me

She saw me bagin’ on the sofa¡­ wasn’t me

I even had her in the shower¡­ wasn’t me

She even caught me on camera¡­ wasn’t me

She saw the marks on my shoulder¡­ wasn’t me

Heard the words that I told her¡­ wasn’t me

Heard the screams getting louder¡­ wasn’t me

She stayed until it was over

Honey came in and she caught me red-handed

Creeping with the girl next door

Picture this we were both butt naked

Banging on the bathroom floor

How could I forget that I had

Given her an extra key

All this time she was standing there she never

Took her eyes off me

Want to tell her that I’m sorry for the

Pain that I’ve caused

I’ve been listening to your reason

It makes no sense at all

Need to tell her that I’m sorry for the

Pain that I’ve caused

You may think that you’re a player

But you’re completely lost

Cause I say¡­

Honey came in and she caught me red-handed

Creeping with the girl next door

Picture this we were both butt naked

Banging on the bathroom floor

How could I forget that I had

Given her an extra key

All this time she was standing there she never

Took her eyes off me

The Daily Burkeman1

Burkeman1  posted on  2007-08-06   14:56:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#109. To: Mister Clean (#105)

There was no "fiasco" involved in Silverstein making that comment.

"You know we've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is, is pull it.' Uh, and they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse."

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Words have meaning.

Note the words, "decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse."

Clearly Silverstein was associating the decision to pull with the result, the collapse.

Note Siverstein did not say, they made that decision to pull and then the firemen were evacuated and then hours later we watched the building collapse.

"Uh, and they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse."

honway  posted on  2007-08-06   15:02:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#110. To: Mister Clean (#105)

They probably don't want a repeat of the Larry Silverstein "pull it" PBS fiasco.

There was no "fiasco" involved in Silverstein making that comment.

But your only agenda is your lunch of salmon and spinach? No one believes that. Not with absurd replies like this one about Lucky Larry.

Ron Paul for President

robin  posted on  2007-08-06   15:06:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#111. To: robin (#110)

He's probably hoping 'lurkers' believe that...

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-08-06   15:13:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#112. To: All (#109)

There was no "fiasco" involved in Silverstein making that comment.

Here's some of the best evidence showing what Silverstein's words meant.

"You know we've had such terrible loss of life, maybe the smartest thing to do is, is pull it.' Uh, and they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse."

honway  posted on  2007-08-06   15:23:03 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#113. To: robin (#110)

Israel backed by army of cyber-soldiers

"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-08-06   15:24:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#114. To: Burkeman1 (#108)

Shaggadelic, man...

Ringo Blankenship  posted on  2007-08-06   15:30:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#115. To: who knows what evil, robin, Burkeman1 (#111)

He's probably hoping 'lurkers' believe that...

86% of Americans doubt the official tale while 63% believe absolutely it was an inside job.

christine  posted on  2007-08-06   15:45:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#116. To: honway (#109)

There was no "fiasco" involved in Silverstein making that comment. . . .

Note the words, "decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse."

Clearly Silverstein was associating the decision to pull with the result, the collapse.

Note Siverstein did not say, they made that decision to pull and then the firemen were evacuated and then hours later we watched the building collapse.

"Uh, and they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse."

Like I said, the tactic seems to be to assert absurdity with a straight face in the hopes that at least some people will question the plainly obvious because they are confused by the shamelessness of such audacious lies.

The Daily Burkeman1

Burkeman1  posted on  2007-08-06   16:08:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#117. To: Burkeman1 (#116)

Must be true 'cause the TV told me so...

"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-08-06   16:09:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#118. To: honway (#112)

Uh, and they made that decision to pull and then we watched the building collapse.

Why would the NYFD blow up WTC 7?

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-06   17:10:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#119. To: honway (#109)

Note Siverstein did not say, they made that decision to pull and then the firemen were evacuated and then hours later we watched the building collapse.

Gee, why would the FDNY decide to blow up WTC 7? How on earth did the FDNY manage to rig explosives in WTC 7 to bring it down?

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-06   17:12:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#120. To: Mister Clean (#118)

Why would the NYFD blow up WTC 7?

Since it's your construct, you tell us.

"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-08-06   17:13:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#121. To: Dakmar (#117)

Must be true 'cause the TV told me so...

Yep.

The media told me . . .

19 Arab Hijackers whose pictures were on the tv in hours after 9/11 did the deed- and then they found a tape of OBL monologueing about his evil plan like a James Bond villian in a house in Afghansitan.

And Saddam was a year away from Nukes. The media told me . . .

And OBL had not one- but "many" huge "hi-tech" bunker caves complete with hydrolic lifts where he kept his tanks and long range artillery. The media told me . . .

And drones could spray our cities launched from mysterious ghost ships that Saddam had. The Media told me . . .

And Saddam killed half a million people and they were in mass graves never found. The Media told me . . .

He had rape rooms. The media told me . . .

He shredded people in plastic shredders. The media told me . . .

He had tons of "WMD" and advanced programs that "no one could doubt after Powell's speech". The media told me . . .

And the insurgents were just Saddam "Dead enders" numbering a few hundred. The media told me.

Then they were "Zarqawi" Al Qaeders. The media told me.

Then they were Iranian trained spies. The Media told me.

Now they are both Al Qaeders and Iranian trained- oh- and Iran is a year away from nuking us. The Media tells me . . .

And everyone fighting us in Afhganistan is "Taliban"- the media tells me.

And Al Qaeda was all but defeated in 2004 the media told me . . .

Now it is "reformed" and stronger than ever. The media tells me . . .

The Daily Burkeman1

Burkeman1  posted on  2007-08-06   17:25:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#122. To: Burkeman1, mr clean (#121)

This sho' enuf a bizarre sight in the middle-a all this shit

"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-08-06   17:26:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#123. To: Dakmar (#120)

Why would the NYFD blow up WTC 7?

Since it's your construct, you tell us.

Hmmmm. What would you call that? A red herring, a non sequitur, or a straw man? Elements of all three logical fallacies I think.

The Daily Burkeman1

Burkeman1  posted on  2007-08-06   17:34:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#124. To: Burkeman1 (#123)

Hat trick? Where's that catalog?

"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-08-06   17:39:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#125. To: Burkeman1 (#121)

And Saddam killed half a million people and they were in mass graves never found.

I think that the official spin on this one was that lack of evidence for mass graves is the proof that there were mass graves, in other words, the fact that we can't find them means that he hid them so well, and if he hid them so well, that means they exist! I kid you not - this was more or less the official neoconservative line about WMDs and mass graves.

Rupert_Pupkin  posted on  2007-08-06   17:45:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#126. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#125)

in other words, the fact that we can't find them means that he hid them so well, and if he hid them so well, that means they exist! I kid you not - this was more or less the official neoconservative line about

I know it is. "Human Rights Watch"- a spook front group- said the reason why they can't find the half million bodies they bandied about in their reports before the war and that were splashed all over our truth telling fact checking media was that . . . and I kid you not . . . the records of where they were had been looted.

The Daily Burkeman1

Burkeman1  posted on  2007-08-06   17:53:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#127. To: Dakmar (#124)

Where's that catalog?

Believe it or not there is one.

BeAChooser is still the reigning champ of the logical fallacy. He had posts that used up to 10 different ones at the same time.

The Daily Burkeman1

Burkeman1  posted on  2007-08-06   17:55:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#128. To: Burkeman1, badeye the ohio coon (#127)

Don't ever talk to badeye

"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-08-06   18:02:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#129. To: Dakmar, christine (#128)

Anyone else notice Badeye refers to Neil McIver as a "tax scammer" on his FR homepage? Is that something Neil is aware of?

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-08-06   18:06:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#130. To: who knows what evil (#129)

long history of hate from badbreath, almost sorry I brought it up.

"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-08-06   18:08:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#131. To: Dakmar (#130)

He's got some issues...

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-08-06   18:10:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#132. To: who knows what evil (#131)

Now that's exactly the sort of remark that's likely to set him off. Good work. :)

"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-08-06   18:17:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#133. To: who knows what evil (#131)

He's got some issues...

Most gay/pederasts do.

Violence solves everything.
The uncertainty of the outcome is what frightens people.

Esso  posted on  2007-08-06   18:18:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  



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