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Title: History Channel to Air 9/11 Conspiracies Special
Source: History Channel
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Published: Aug 3, 2007
Author: History Channel
Post Date: 2007-08-03 10:31:04 by Ringo Blankenship
Keywords: None
Views: 13426
Comments: 246

UPCOMING SHOWS

Sunday, August 12 08:00 PM Monday, August13 12:00 PM

An Internet search for "9/11 conspiracy theories" yields nearly two million hits. Were the attacks on 9/11 perpetrated by the Bush Administration to advance its own interests? Could a government missile have hit the Pentagon? As outrageous as these ideas may sound, many people believe them. Why do these theories arise in the first place? An interview with James Miegs, Editor-in-Chief of Popular Mechanics, who refutes many of these theories. Watch as experts in the fields of aeronautics, engineering and the military put these theories to the test.

Rating: TVPG Running Time: 120 minutes

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If you want to believe that 911 kookery influenced the 2006 election, go right ahead.

I don't believe it.

This isn't the subject under discussion here. But you know that.

What you are trying to do is wiggle out from your lie by changing the subject. But you know that.

Anyone who would try this cheap tactic - such as yourself - is a dishonest shill. But you know that already.

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...  posted on  2007-08-08   10:42:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

What you are trying to do is wiggle out from your lie by changing the subject.

I've told no lies. I've only stated my beliefs.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-08   10:43:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Your claim is not evidence.

It's just a claim.

Yep, you are calling me a liar. Since you refuse to answer even the simplest of questions I see no reason to engage you for any purpose beyond my own amusement.

"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-08-08   10:44:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Did I use the word liar?

Read my posts slowly. Let the words sink in.

You called him a liar.

Specifically, you disparaged his assertion as follows:

Your claim is not evidence.

It's just a claim.

He claimed he gave you evidence to contradict your dishonest assertion and you implied that what he said wasn't true.

You now try to escape this by playing word games: I never said it was an animal, I said it was a dog.

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...  posted on  2007-08-08   10:46:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

He claimed he gave you evidence to contradict your dishonest assertion and you implied that what he said wasn't true.

No, I said that a claim is not evidence.

I could claim right now to really be Brad Pitt but without evidence to prove that I am Brad Pitt, it's nothing more than a claim.

I'm sure you can't grasp that very basic concept.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-08   10:49:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I've told no lies. I've only stated my beliefs.

Ok, you wiggle for half a dozen posts and then - when you realize you are trapped - you try to change what you originally said.

You are a liar.

You didn't express your claim about 911 and the election as an opinion, you expressed it as an absolute fact. You did this more than one time on the thread above. I called you on it and you failed to clarify the statement - instead, you tried to change the subject and leave you dishonest statement intact.

You are a lying propagandist.

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...  posted on  2007-08-08   10:50:02 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You are a lying propagandist.

Clean is either olde Sinkspur or his bastard child.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-08-08   10:51:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Clean is either olde Sinkspur or his bastard child.

If that were true I would be posting my support and defense of Bush.

But there is not one single post where I even come close to doing that.

Interesting.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-08   10:54:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

No, I said that a claim is not evidence.

He claimed to have evidence that contradicted you. He gave his statement as the evidence. And evidence is precisely what his statement was.

You called him a liar by implying that his statement wasn't evidence.

You then denied calling him a liar.

You are a real piece of work. If you are going to be dishonest in this manner, you need to be much more careful than you have been on this thread.

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...  posted on  2007-08-08   10:55:11 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I could claim right now to really be Brad Pitt but without evidence to prove that I am Brad Pitt, it's nothing more than a claim.

Just as it's a claim that the WTC and Pentagon were attacked by al qaeda. So why should you care what anyone thinks if you have no rational standard of objectivity?

"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-08-08   10:55:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

If that were true I would be posting my support and defense of Bush.

No, you just attack anyone critical of him, as if that were not support.

My advice to you is to use the reality you are given, you are lousy at creating it.

"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-08-08   10:57:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

He gave his statement as the evidence.

I am Brad Pitt and I'm posting poolside from our villa in south France.

Angelina is skinnydipping right now.

Prove my claim is false.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-08   10:57:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

No, you just attack anyone critical of him

I don't attack myself.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-08   10:58:48 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Interesting.

Interesting?

Not really.

Sinkspur was never interesting, he was just a sick person, and he was outed as a huffing, puffing liar.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-08-08   11:00:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Interesting?

Not really.

It is very interesting that you would suggest I am a rabid Bush supporter yet there is not a single post from me expressing support for Bush.

It also reflects extreme laziness on your part.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-08   11:03:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I am Brad Pitt and I'm posting poolside from our villa in south France.

Angelina is skinnydipping right now.

Prove my claim is false.

Complete and utter Red Herring tossed out by a dishonest shill to save face.

To be relevant, you should ask me to prove that your statement isn't evidence of the fact that you are Brad Pitt.

I can't do this. You statement is evidnece of this fact. It's shitty evidence, but it is still evidence.

Instead, you play word games and ask me to prove the statement false. Which has nothing to do with the discussion above. I said Dakmar's statement was evidence and I said nothing about it being true of false.

But you know this.

This new dishonesty proves up you lack of integrity.

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...  posted on  2007-08-08   11:03:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It is in fact evidence that you are Brad Pitt, it just happens to be unreliable, as is any claim you make.

"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-08-08   11:04:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You statement is evidnece of this fact. It's shitty evidence, but it is still evidence.

Wrong.

A claim made by some guy on an Internet message board is not evidence.

But since you'll obviously believe whatever somebody posts, Angelina is sitting in my lap right now feeding me grapes.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-08   11:05:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

But back to the point.

You said that the 911 theories had no effect on the 2006 elections.

You put this out as an assertion of fact. There were no qualifiers on this bullshit claim. You made the claim more than once and when called on it, you tried to change the subject.

Now ... Back up your bullshit or admit that you tried to lie to us.

Post the article or study that supports your claim that the 911 theories had NO effect on the 2006 elections.

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...  posted on  2007-08-08   11:07:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

A claim made by some guy on an Internet message board is not evidence.

It will do for the purposes of your blanket claim that 911 was not a factor in anyone's vote in 2006. Unless you are calling me a liar.

"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-08-08   11:07:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It also reflects extreme laziness on your part.

Sinkspur you is....

Cynicom  posted on  2007-08-08   11:08:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

It is in fact evidence that you are Brad Pitt, it just happens to be unreliable, as is any claim you make.

My claims are as unreliable as yours.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-08   11:08:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Now ... Back up your bullshit or admit that you tried to lie to us.

Wound up pretty tight, huh?

I suggest you have a couple beers with lunch or go smoke a bowl.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-08   11:09:31 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Sinkspur you is....

Where are all of my pro-Bush posts?

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-08   11:09:54 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

A claim made by some guy on an Internet message board is not evidence.

You are lying again.

But you know that.

Evidence is anything that tends to prove the assertion under question.

You are trying to wiggle out of you lie by confusing evidence with the quality of the evidence. Two different things entierly - but you know that.

This new dishonesty further proves your lack of integrity.

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...  posted on  2007-08-08   11:10:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I voted Libertarian in part because I thought the GOP was covering up several details of 911.

The same reason I didn't vote for Bush the second time, although I did the first time (forgive me, everyone). I smelled a big, stinking RAT after watching those buildings fall, and then listening to all the BS stories being spewed by the controlled media.

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-08-08   11:10:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You are the only one calling me a liar, whereas you are called a liar hundreds of times a day, by dozens of different individuals. Who would an objective observer be more likely to believe?

"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-08-08   11:11:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Since you said 2004 I'm guessing MC will use that to try to prove his case.

"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-08-08   11:12:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Evidence is anything that tends to prove the assertion under question.

Angelina just went to fetch me a scotch.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-08   11:12:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

And you just gave your father a blow job.

"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-08-08   11:13:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You are the only one calling me a liar,

I have not called you a liar.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-08   11:14:53 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Good point. The 9/11 BS angered me so much I forgot to vote in 2006...just stayed home. Just like I will next year unless Paul is the 'R' nominee. Since that won't happen; I can just stay home and watch Hillary waltz in.

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-08-08   11:15:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

I have not called you a liar.

Fine, then you are saying that facts presented to make one's case is in no way a definition of evidence. Either way you appear to be a duplicitous dullard.

"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-08-08   11:19:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Fine, then you are saying that facts presented to make one's case is in no way a definition of evidence.

Internet postings are not facts.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-08   11:21:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

So you are calling me a liar, and then lying about it. Clever. Are you Alberto Gonzales?

"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-08-08   11:24:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Evidence is anything that tends to prove the assertion under question.

Angelina just went to fetch me a scotch.

Now you are using cheap word games to push your dishonesty.

You know what I said about the nature of evidence is correct, but you don't like it and you don't want others to take it the heart. The definition puts you in a box.

So you respond with a vague disparagement that you can later argue was just a simple statement of fact - if you are later called on this new dishonesty.

You really are a dishonest sack of shit - but you know that.

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...  posted on  2007-08-08   11:24:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

So you are calling me a liar

If I wanted to call you a liar, I'd call you a liar.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-08   11:26:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

You really are a dishonest sack of shit - but you know that.

You need a drink. Hell, you sound like you need the whole bottle.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-08   11:27:14 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

Internet postings are not facts.

Horseshit. I see facts posted on the internet every day.

How does posting assertion on the internet make it false?

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...  posted on  2007-08-08   11:28:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  

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