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Title: Just Come Home - Ron Paul gives great interview on FOX News
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URL Source: http://thespinfactor.com/thetruth/2 ... est-interview-yet-on-fox-news/
Published: Aug 6, 2007
Author: staff
Post Date: 2007-08-06 07:21:04 by palo verde
Keywords: Ron Paul
Views: 2461
Comments: 178
Ron Paul hits a home run after being interviewed by a very hot anchor shortly after winning the Iowa debate. FOX News shows an amazing clip of Ron Paul at the Iowa debate on Aug 5.
Then, Julie Banderas interviews Ron Paul in what may be one of the most
civilized and fair interviews Ron Paul has had, yet.
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I really hope enough people wake up and understand that his goal is to stay true to the constitution, the piece of paper that made America such a great nation. Comment by Landon | August 5th, 2007 ------------------------------------------- WOW! very good interview FOX!! Could this be a change for the better on your network? I sure hope so, would be nice to have people on America’s team working for FOX!! Comment by jron | August 5th, 2007 --------------------------------------------------- The reason he answers them so nicely is because he truely believes what he’s saying. We have a long road till Nov. 2008. I can guarantee that if this momentum picks up, it’s enough time for the “internet sensation” Of Ron paul to go mainstream into the homes of America, eventually big media will have no choice but to give as much attention to paul as they do to Clinton, Obama and Giuliani. I think America has a good chance of having a real president come 2008. Comment by C. Frank Bernard | August 6th, 2007 ------------------------------------------- great interview. Comment by adam | August 6th, 2007 -------------------------- also, how hot is that reporter! go fox! Comment by gerry | August 6th, 2007 ----------------------------------------------------- Wow! I agree with everything: Ron Paul talks sense, it’s a great interview, and the anchor is hot. He is as close to having a third party, a refreshing change. I hope he gets enough small contributions from a large base so that he won’t be beholden to the same old same old. Comment by Joe Huss | August 6th, 2007 ------------------------------------------------ Very impressed with this guy. Im not big on politics but Ive been worried where our country is heading lately, and this guy really seems to know what we need and how to get us back on the right track. Ill definitly be voting for this guy. Comment by kditty | August 6th, 2007 ------------------------------------------------- im starting to like this guy more and more, he answers questions direct and doesnt really lose or confuse you with what hes saying. you can also tell he does this for people like me who do not follow politics as much as some others, and do not want to decipher an answer to a simple question. i loved the point he made along the lines of ‘the same people who say it will be a disaster to leave, aree the same people who said it wont be a disaster to go in’. i think its safe to say he will have my vote. Comment by John C. Randolph | August 6th, 2007 ----------------------------------------------- Ron’s right about declaring war. That power is reserved to the congress, and sending American troops into harm’s way without a declared war is a dereliction of duty by the congress.
I just emailed Brit Hume, managing director of the news at FOX here is his email addy at Fox special@foxnews.com
The reason there has been no "declaration of war" since 1941 is that, by signing onto the United Nations Charter, all wars of all signatories are supposed to be sanctioned by that "world body." The current president's father went around for months in 1990 saying that United Nations Security Council collective resolution to "use force" was all he needed to start a war against Iraq. His political advisers finally convinced him to go to Congress also to seek resolutions there, but he did not think that was legally necessary. In his "New World Order" mind, Congress was irrelevant. In a sense, as the U.S. was a founding member (indeed, the driving force behind it) of the UN, and it was first thought it would be a world government outlawing the "scourge of war" between national governments, Bush 41 was correct, at least theoretically. Ron Paul never would have allowed the U.S. to become part of the UN and thus is looking at the world in a whole different way. He is still viewing the world as being made up of sovereign nation-states. In this sense, he is much closer to Vladimir Putin's world view than he is of any "Western" governmental leader. Even Bush 43 finally realized how unpopular the UN was, even though his daddy loved it so (as a former ambassador), and so used it as an object of ridicule in the months leading up to his premeditated war crimes in Iraq, which are ongoing.
“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
Indeed, Truman used a Security Council resolution as justification for fighting the Korean War (there was legislative authority for such actions).
The U.S. Constitution is no impediment to our form of government.--PJ O'Rourke
Heading lately??? Therein lies the American problem. Where have these people been for the last 50 years.
(Cynicom) Heading lately??? I never paid any attention to election news or DC politics I went from curious to hear about the sex so I won't criticize anyone for tuning in late Love, Palo
ping - I've got to leave for work now, but must get back and read this!
"I've even suggested that we follow the constitution." I LOVED that response to the Second Amendment question...the Congressman is right...we should be able to transport our LEGAL firearms without the hassle of wondering what carry laws are from state to state.
Amen to that. Perhaps you noted Paul in this clip, he says, "this war was a long time in planning"..The interviewer was not really interested in what he had to say. Just perhaps Paul had reference to invading Iraq being formulated in someones minds long before this president arrived.
I believe that, knowing the natural tyranny of governments, the founders wanted us to have whatever "arms," that the government has in order to protect and preserve our freedom. They wanted the government to fear the people - not vice versa.
Ron Paul for President
He answered all the questions extremely well. He has a clear answer about leaving Iraq ASAP, citing recent historical examples. He has a great answer regarding nanny govt, including Social Security. He understands the current dependency, and has no intention of putting people out on the streets.
Ron Paul for President
These are the videos at the link that palo posted for this thread. Must watch! Just Come Home-Ron Paul on FOX after Iowa Debate 8-5-2007-P1 Just Come Home-Ron Paul on FOX after Iowa Debate 8-5-2007-P2 Ron Paul for President
These are the videos at the link that palo posted for this thread. Must watch! One welcome visual impression I receive from Paul is this, a minimum of hand and arm gestures, rare facial expressions for emphasis and thank God no automatic ear to ear fake smile painted on his face as do most politicians.
Thank You Fox News.
"Very few established institutions, governments and constitutions... are ever destroyed by their enemies until they have been corrupted and weakened by their friends." -- Walter Lippmann (1889-1974)
thank you Robin for pinging others to Fox's Ron Paul video Let an angel of peace love freedom bless our country now
Thank You Fox News. you're the best Calam
Awwwww, thanks Palo. You are too kind! Ron Paul Radio http://www.ronpaulradio.com/index.p hp The 'listen' tab is at the top. :)
"Very few established institutions, governments and constitutions... are ever destroyed by their enemies until they have been corrupted and weakened by their friends." -- Walter Lippmann (1889-1974)
August 6, 1945. Hiroshima. Let us all take a moment to remember.
"Very few established institutions, governments and constitutions... are ever destroyed by their enemies until they have been corrupted and weakened by their friends." -- Walter Lippmann (1889-1974)
"V".
The Japanese barbarians learned a very hard lesson, however they have learned and prospered.
Exactly...this woman, cute as she might be; is STILL a tool of the globalist cabal...notice how she tried to tie Dr. Paul to the "Alex Jones crowd" right out of the box. This is the ONLY way they can attack him...fortunately; Congressman Paul gave a very credible response. FOX is NOT our friend...maybe we should ask Rupert how the weather is in Beijing today..?
That she did and in a very accusatory manner and tone. When Paul shot her down, she was in a hurry to move on. When Paul said the Iraq war was planned long ago, it sailed over her dimbulb head. Any competent news reader would asked what he meant, not this dim bulb.
I clicked the link at the top and got this: Looks like the link is getting tons of activity.
Pinguinite.com EcuadorTreasures.ec
He's wasting his breath by saying this on Fox News. The people who watch Fox are all either brain washed or brain dead.
I'm glad Fox interviewed him. I'm sure that his answers to many of the questions made an impression or at least got many viewers to think.
The other candidates will start with Pauls views being "over simplistic" because they have no counter argument. How does one argue against bringing the boys home, by saying no, Americans want war? There will be killings if we cut and run? At least it wont be Americans and let the Iraqis sort it out. Tough to advocate for more war after all these long years.
You know who was loving that? Alex Jones. The only thing better than merely mentioning his name would have been if http://infowars.com had come up on the screen at the same time.
“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
Ron Paul did that all by himself by appearing on Jones' show numerous times.
LOL before I got on internet week before Y2K I watched Fox News all day long
Great news, Pinguinite
Some people here argue that indicates Paul is "tied" to Jones. Using that limp argument would mean that Paul by appearing on Fox has tied himself to Fox/neocons/Bush. Some people argue just for the sake of arguing and never offer anything. I suspect they have nothing to offer.
(Mr Clean) Ron Paul did that all by himself by appearing on Jones' show numerous times. I am no fan of Alix Jones
Jones is a kook who is making money through fearmongering and claiming to know the "truth" about what's going on. He offers his "truth" in the form of DVD's and website subscriptions. Ron Paul has been on Jones's radio show enough to set himself up to be "linked" to Jones. If you lie with dogs you wake up with fleas.
(who knows what evil) ..notice how she tried to tie Dr. Paul to the "Alex Jones crowd" right out of the box. (Cynicom) Some people here argue that indicates Paul is "tied" to Jones. Good post, Cynicom I hope Ron Paul does go on Coast-to-Coast AM
you don't like Ron Paul, you don't want him to be our President
Sleeping with dogs and the flea analogy is very original. Masterful input. I will have to write that one down.
on what do you base your opinion, palo? have you taken the time to listen to Alex enough to think he's a "paid disinformationist?" Alex is here in Austin, as you know, and i've been around him quite a bit. he's an absolute tireless activist who loves this country. i can't think of anyone who works as hard as he does in the effort to educate people and to help save America from the evil tyrants who RULE it.
Hiroshima. Let us all take a moment to remember. Thanks.
Ron Paul for President
notice how she tried to tie Dr. Paul to the "Alex Jones crowd" right out of the box. Ron Paul did that all by himself by appearing on Jones' show numerous times. Doesn't Alex Jones have a larger audience than Rush Limbaugh, Sean Hannity, and several other "pundits"? I do know that his website gets more hits than Limbaugh's or Hannity's. Thus, I don't blame Ron Paul for appearing on the Alex Jones show because he was reaching a large audience.
I don't dislike Ron Paul and I realize he has no chance of becoming president.
The point is, by appearing numerous times on Jones' show, Paul set himself up for the question of being "linked" to the kook.
...because that is the ONLY way the government-controlled media can attack Dr. Paul. They do NOT want him getting anywhere near the White House (as President, at least). If they can attach him to anyone perceived as a 'kook'; they hope it will scare away potential supporters.
Sleeping with dogs and the flea analogy is very original. Masterful input. I will have to write that one down. Jesus touched a leper yet did not become one, but rather left him free of the disease. Perhaps RP's message can help others see politics for what it is and should be.
"Very few established institutions, governments and constitutions... are ever destroyed by their enemies until they have been corrupted and weakened by their friends." -- Walter Lippmann (1889-1974)
nor can I.
So, why on earth would Paul help them by appearing with the kook Jones? Shows poor judgement.
Paul has been on MSM, does that link him to MSM? ABC, Fox, and late night comedy too, the Daily Show with Jon Stewart. Oh my, is Paul just a comedian then? Ron Paul has a strong draw on the internet, his poll #s are very decent, his campaign funds are good (and he's truly fiscally conservative so that $$ will go a long way). I see no reason for talk of defeat, just the opposite. All though it may suit your agenda very well. BTW, how would you describe your agenda?
Ron Paul for President
A kook with a large and seemingly growing audience.
And yet for all of his "work" he can't claim a single victory in his "fight" against the NWO.
I'm all ears.
"Very few established institutions, governments and constitutions... are ever destroyed by their enemies until they have been corrupted and weakened by their friends." -- Walter Lippmann (1889-1974)
there was a long inerview with Alix on Geroge Noory's show (Coast-to-CoastAM) I won't post it again, and I probably should not have posted it the first time
There is no downside to appearing on MSM shows and the John Stewart show. But there is a downside to appearing on the show of an Internet kook.
There are a lot of kooks out there.
My agenda as far as what?
he's talking about the Fox Ron Paul interview right now. why don't you tune in? i think you just might like him. ;)
depends on what the definition of victory is.
Well, if selling conspiracy products and website subscriptions are "victories" he's probably had some.
you tell me
Ron Paul for President
(Palo) Why is Ron Paul "tied" to Alix Jones, just because Alix interviewed him on the radio... (Who Knows) ...because that is the ONLY way the government-controlled media can attack Dr. Paul. They do NOT want him getting anywhere near the White House (as President, at least). If they can attach him to anyone perceived as a 'kook'; they hope it will scare away potential supporters. thank you Who Knows for your post all the mass media can do is try to brainwash us into voting for their candidate they can call Ron Paul a kook all they want we desperately need a sane government now!
Well, so far my agenda is to have lunch soon. Probably a salmon steak with some spinach.
When Clinton was in office, Fox News seemed like an alternative, however flawed, to the administration's propaganda. Then, when Shrub and Co. came to power, they turned around and shilled for Shrub louder than CNN or any other network ever shilled for Clinton. What a bunch of disgusting hypocrites. Chances are, they invited Dr. Paul just so that their idiot talking heads could snear at his remarks afterwards.
exactly I never watched any news tv after Bush was Inaugurated but I have high hopes for Ron Paul, and this time I am sure I will get what I expect
What are you here selling? More other people's blood and treasure for your agenda?
http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=58715 Adam Pearlman If it were not for individuals like Alex Jones, there would be very few Americans aware that this latest al-qaeda boogyman,Adam Yehiye Gadahn, is actually an alias for an American born Jew named Adam Pearlman. Pearlman's grandfather was on the Board of Directors for the ADL. Tim McVeigh used the alias Tim Tuttle.Would it surprise you if every time the media referred to McVeigh they used the name Tim Tuttle instead of his legal name?
He is the lone voice in the wilderness and some people would cut the trees down to make sure he is unheard.
If it were not for individuals like Alex Jones, there would be very few Americans aware that this latest al-qaeda boogyman,Adam Yehiye Gadahn, is actually an alias for an American born Jew named Adam Pearlman. Ouch, how embarrassing! This was probably read by a good number of Americans considering the reach of Jones' audience.
There are Ron Paul supporters around the world. Should his candidacy fail, his message will live on.
"Very few established institutions, governments and constitutions... are ever destroyed by their enemies until they have been corrupted and weakened by their friends." -- Walter Lippmann (1889-1974)
Can we finish the interview for the site kook position after lunch?
Bunch of internet bums ... grand jury --- opium den ! ~ byeltsin
Pearlman's grandfather was on the Board of Directors for the ADL. I remember hearing that he was the 2nd American Taliban, or words to that effect.
"Very few established institutions, governments and constitutions... are ever destroyed by their enemies until they have been corrupted and weakened by their friends." -- Walter Lippmann (1889-1974)
Sunbeams are never made like me.
"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs
You bring up an interesting point re: Fox News watchers' deeply entrenched opinions - that's why I was surprised that the interviewer let slip the fact that Dr. Ron Paul is pro-life - that fact alone had to register big time positive with the Fox News fundie crowd. Also, some of Ron Paul's greatest fans as of late are soldiers stateside who have come back from Iraq - presumably the Fox News watchers also represent parents of these soldiers who have likely rec'd an earful from their kids. His message about bringing our troops home may resonate positively with those families now.
Is this a prediction of a Barack Obama presidency? C'mon, he's not that dark.
“I would give no thought of what the world might say of me, if I could only transmit to posterity the reputation of an honest man.” - Sam Houston
aka, FADE TO BLACK? Let it, us human beans ought to take to the hills.
"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs
Ron Paul has a strong draw on the internet, his poll #s are very decent, his campaign funds are good (and he's truly fiscally conservative so that $$ will go a long way). Good points, robin. And Ron Paul clarified that issue himself on air - he told the interviewer that alternative news sources gave him a break by offering him face time/air time. Up until recently mainstream news sources like Fox News were pointedly ignoring Dr. Paul - so Dr. Paul had to take advantage of whatever opportunity presented itself to him to get his message to the general public be it Alex Jones or Jon Stewart or Bill Mahrer. I admire Dr. Paul for his honesty and for his resourcefulness, quite frankly. I think Dr. Paul reached many many college aged 20's and early 30's voters by being given face time by Jon Stewart, Colbert, and Mahrer. If there's a ground swell of college aged Elect Ron Paul and End the Iraq War activism across campuses, the R and D political operatives/minions will be sweating big time. Folks like Mr. Clean no doubt are somewhat nervous about that audience because in the past they could count on those folks not voting. Dr. Paul has generated interest in the very public that could turn the hitherto predictable 2008 Presidential election on its head. P.S. And just because Dr. Paul agreed to appear and be interviewed on Fox News, it does not mean he's a neocon, yes?
If you lie with dogs you wake up with fleas. Oh really? So would you say the same pithey phrase holds true for the Presidential candidates who have been linked to that enormously powerful flea-ridden/America last organization known as AIPAC?
Mister Clean got an ugly agenda don't he scrapper? Wow!
"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs
MrKlein gots 3rd grade ghetto logic also, i.e. NONE.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition It's anti-secret-overlord not to obey. Never forget that, right?
"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs
I don't sell anyone's blood or treasure for my agenda.
You know what? I don't give a shit about the 08 election at all.
I'd bet that the vast majority of Americans has no clue about this guy whatsoever.
Why would I get nervous. I have no stake in the Iraq fiasco. I have reach a state of blissful apathy regarding Iraq.
Bullshit, you defend the biggest gangsters every day. You call kooks those of us who call foul on the IRS. You attempt to belittle those who think aggressive warfare is immoral. I'm looking through you, where did you go?
"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs
Quote me or shut up.
"9-11 movement has peaked" - the nigger clean
"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs
I can use the 'n' word here still, right?
"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs
Mister Clean: You know what? I don't give a shit about the 08 election at all. Nice try but no cigar ( #1 and #2 traits of a disinformationalist are "avoidance" and "selectivity" - you fail in being subtle in either category) ... One more time...you did not answer my question...and you were the one who started us down this road of guilt by association... So would you say the same pithey phrase ( which you blithely ascribed to Dr. Ron Paul) holds true for the Presidential candidates who have been linked to that enormously powerful flea-ridden/America last organization known as AIPAC?
You fail again in being none too subtle with regards to traits #6 and #7 of a disinformationalist... 6) Artificial Emotions 7) Inconsistent
That's not a defense of anyone or anything. Just a simple statement of reality.
I don't care, do you understand?
6) Artificial Emotions 7) Inconsistent You're babbling.
Au contraire, I'm not the one babbling. I've had enough fun with you, yawn. I hope you are not being paid for your paltry efforts. You are not half as intelligent as the other disinformationalists who have popped up on 4um previously. Otoh, maybe you're the best that our de-valued dollar can buy these days...sigh...
LOL!
lol too
Whatever. I'm simply not interested in your stupid question about the presidential candidates I don't even care about.
Seriously, BAC had around 10+ post lists organized and ready at a moment's notice...with links, mostly - dead ones. But at least really gave an effort?
The guy is asking me a question relating to the presidential candidates. I don't care about the 08 election. Why would I give an effort to comment on something I'm not interested in?
Why would I give an effort to comment on something I'm not interested in? Sorry, Rebbe...get excited. Purim's coming soon....
You go, easy rider.
No way! If he would have refused the neocons and the jewish news mafia would have a field day making excuses that he was afraid to be interviewed or some other bullshit. The words he spoke can't be denied or misconstrued by fux. I only wish I could read the text of his interview. There is a link, but I can't find the text anywhere. More shenanigans by fux?
Why would I give an effort to comment on something I'm not interested in? Then why would you be posting on a thread about a candidate?
It was an opportunity to comment on that charlatan Alex Jones.
Bunch of internet bums ... grand jury --- opium den ! ~ byeltsin
excellent post!
this is also a very good post
(Lacumo) No way! If he would have refused the neocons and the jewish news mafia would have a field day making excuses that he was afraid to be interviewed or some other bullshit. as a Jewish girl some of the anti-Jewish posts on this forum are starting to wear me down...
Just ignore the stuff you don't agree with and enjoy the stuff you like, palo. This is an internet anonymous political discussion forum. For all we know some remarks are being made by baiters. Let it go and concentrate on the comments that sound legit and are in line with what you believe politically. If I got hurt by all the dumb blonde jokes I've heard over the years, I would not step foot outside my house.
Oh palo...no one's here is anti-Jewish. No one cares about belief systems whats so ever. Stop being a shrinking violet. There's no time for that...just a small sliver of time to get with the program....Do it now.
Palo...please don't be offended. The people that want to stop Dr. Paul from reaching the White House have a common agenda that embraces folks from all sorts of belief systems...I believe the Scriptures are the Word of G-d, but I wouldn't be caught dead with the type of 'Christian' that wants to follow John Hagee into a Middle East Armageddon. Look at the 'Christians' that support the war in the Middle East...hundreds of thousands, including children, have been killed. That doesn't sound to me like an action that the followers of Jesus should rally behind. So when the folks posting here rip on Christians; am I offended? Not at all. Nor should be you be offended when someone comments about Jews...people are just fed up with the Christians and Jews and Muslims who want to lead us into the 'dark times' you referenced in an earlier post. We need to work toward peace, and we can do that by standing together and doing our BEST to elect Congressman Paul President of the United States.
I could care less if you are Jewish (whatever that means). Frankly, I could care less if I am part Jewish(whatever that means). I consider myself an American, everything else is of zero concern. Hanging on to this claptrap of , "I am Jewish, I am Irish, I am Italian, I am whatever wears very thin". This country is falling apart because millions of people are deciding they want to be Hispanic, Latino, Mexican or whatever. My heritage is American first and last, clinging to the roots of some tribe that came out of Asia thousands of years ago is ridiculous.
Hear, hear! (See: Balkans)
Jew haters who post on Internet forums shouldn't be taken too seriously. They are nothing more than miserable, negative, resentful failures who need to blame Jews for their own shortcomings.
The words he spoke can't be denied or misconstrued by fux. True, but what he has to say falls on deaf ears with 99% of Fox News watchers.
Perhaps you care to define the term Jew hater??? First, what is a Jew, there are many descriptions but none seem to be able to agree on what constitutes a Jew.
Someone who hates Jews.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
Surely you can do better than that. Also define what is a Jew, I really would like to see that.
I'm not interested in wasting my time discussing the definition of a Jew. Bottom line: Jew haters are failures who direct their own self-loathing at the Jewish people.
Why not be honest enough to admit you have not the slightest inkling of what constitutes a Jew. Don't feel alone because MOST people cannot answer a question that has no answer. Those that try to answer are deluding themselves and trying to impress others. You do not know what a Jew is but you know you dislike Jew haters. Brilliant. A brainwashed person incapable of thinking for themselves are legion.
Thanks for getting this thread back on topic...
I'm not interested in playing your little game. Find somebody else who cares, okay?
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
Game? Hardly a game. A little intellectual exercise is good for you. Perhaps that is what terrifies you, having someone expose your own hates, biases and prejudices. Don't worry about it, it is human nature, we all have them. Some wont admit to it but they are free with their criticism of others. Hate is the quickest human emotion to arise, and is often disguised by accusing others of hatred.
Yes, anytime he is given an interview it is good for his campaign. Something that cannot be said for all the other candidates. So instead, she kept it a short interview.
Ron Paul for President
That's so deep. Ever thought about writing an inspirational book? America is full of idiots who gobble that kind of shit up.
Usually people that are mentally vacuous eventually turn to profane and obscene language. So much for trying to have an intelligent discussion. You have a good day.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
I usually do.
Or they are people who are framed that way because they disagreed with some Israeli policy - as the article below indicates: Source: http://thepaleoconservativeprimer.blogspot.com/ By Jayne Gardener When I write about anything that is critical of Jews, Zionism or Israel, I am often labeled an anti-semite, a charge which I no longer attempt to defend because I have learned that it's hopeless. People who don't agree with me will automatically assume that I hate Jews no matter what I say, so I have decided to simply embrace the term. It's a pretty meaningless term, leveled at anyone who dares to criticise "the chosen," in an attempt to silence them. No one wants to be thought of as hateful or intolerant, so being called an anti-semite will usually produce abject apologies from the person accused. I know from personal experience that the charge of anti-semitism has no basis in reality and is simply a word that Jewish groups and their supporters use in an attempt to smear their detractors. I would imagine that everyone who writes about the "Jewish question" has been called an anti-semite on many occasions, but the term is so overused as to be rendered completely meaningless. If speaking out about what I know to be true makes me an anti-semite, then I plead guilty. I have recently read a book entitled The New Jerusalem, written by Michael Collins Piper, an excellent book about the disproportionate Jewish influence in America. In it, he lists various people who have been called anti-semites, accused of making anti-semitic remarks or of being hostile to Israel. I'm sure you will recognize a great many, if not all, of the names. President Richard Nixon President Jimmy Carter President Gerald Ford Sen. Robert F. Kennedy Sen. Charles Percy Sen. Adlai Stevenson Rep. Paul Findlay Rep. Ed Zshau Rep. Mervin Dymally Rep. John. R. Rarick Rep. Jim Traficant UN Ambassador Bill Scranton Governor John B. Connally Defense Secretary Caspar Weinberger President John F. Kennedy President George H. W. Bush President Harry S. Truman Sen. J. William Fulbright Sen. Jim Abourezk Sen. Ernest F. Hollings Rep. Pete McCloskey Rep. Mary Rose Oakar Rep. Steve Stockman Rep. Earl Hilliard Un Ambassador Andrew Young Defense Secretary James Forrestall Secretary of State James Baker Rep. Forney "Pete" Stark Rep. Cynthia McKinney Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton Gen. George Patton Gen. George C. Marshall Gen. George Stratemeyer Gen. Albert Wedemeyer Gen. George V. Strong Maj. Gen. George Moseley Lt. Gen. Sherman Miles Gen. George Brown Adm. Thomas Moorer Gen. Pedro Del Valle Mel Gibson Michael Jackson Gore Vidal Mark Lane Rabbi Elmer Berger Mike Wallace Marlon Brando Steve Carlton Robert Mitchum Alfred Lilienthal Dr. Billy Graham Peter Jennings Rev. Martin Luther King Minister Louis Farrakhan Rev. Jesse Jackson Malcolm X Walt Disney Charles A. LIndbergh H.L. Mencken Nathaniel Hawthorne Lord Byron Henry James T.S. Eliot Washington Irving Carl Jung Jack Kerouc Rudyard Kipling D.H. Lawrence James Russell Lowell Henry Miller Thomas Edison Henry Ford Theodore Dreiser Ernest Hemingway Thomas Carlyle Henry Adams George Elliot Truman Capote F. Scott Fitzgerald Percy Shelley H.G. Wells Franz Liszt Somerset Maugham Eugene O'Neill C. Northcote Parkinson Ezra Pound George Bernard Shaw Richard Wagner Robert Louis Stevenson Sir Walter Scott George Sand Johannes Brahms William Faulkner George Orwell [1] This is only a partial list, but as you can see, it is a list that covers former Presidents, politicians, military leaders, celebrities and business men, all tarred with the "anti-semite" brush at one time or another. If people who read my blog are going to assume that I am an anti-semite simply because I speak out critically against Jewish supremacism, Zionism and Israel, I at least have the comfort of being in very good company. [1] The New Jerusalem. Michael Collins Piper. American Free Press, Washington D.C. 2004 Pages 13-16
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On Google type in anti-semitism, you will receive over 2,000,000 references. Then type in anti-goyism and see what Google has to say.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
thank you Scrapper for writng me such a kind generous loving post
I am sure you are right Eoghan, that no one on 4um does hate Jews LOL I was on Liberty Forum (where Jew haters congregate) for a few years, This may offend everyone I have ever been on a forum with, as I usually keep my mouth shut on forums,
thank you for your loving posts, Who Knows What Evil
you are sweet to encourage me to stay on 4um, Cynicom
I try. :-) You are a strong, unflappable advocate for Congressman Paul...please don't let his enemies silence you. Help us get this good man into the White House.
How interesting of you to ask thes questions a Jew hater is someone who thinks the world would be better off without Jews as for the definition of a Jew, it simply means your parents were Jewish
Palo... No one ever accused me of being sweet before. Palo, we have one thing in common here, electing Ron Paul. Everything else is minor. Wars are not fought by Saints, you take anyone that is willing. So take nothing to heart here, the future of this country is at stake, not what we perceive as good or bad. Distractions arise, passions roused, but it is the election we keep our eye on. I will even be nice to Mister Clean.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
I love you honey, you know I will do everything in my power to get Ron Paul in the White House God will not let our ship go down all we need to do is emulate our forefathers and loving each other brings in all the energy of the Universe, to smooth our way and ensure our success
Nice post palo...LibertyForum is very suspicious to me. ADL spends a lot of time scanning the web then listing 'hate sites' back on their page. LF has a lot of members, viewers and is a well known Libertarian site, yet the ADL is completely silent about the site. The ownership is unknown and moderating crew have been repeatedly be caught carrying out deceptions. I suspect it's a fishbowl operation collecting information about dissident Americans. It could very well be ADL owned? No one knows who pays to maintain and keep LF running...
(ghostdogtxn) I'm with you, Palo. Beautiful thought. how sweet of you, ghostdogtxn
Cool. Let's get to work.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
Palo... I was hoping to engage Mister Clean in a civil, polite discussion. Here is something you may have already read by Arthur Kemp... It deals with who or what is a Jew. It is long but perhaps you and others will read it and see how history views the subject on a scientific basis. By Arthur Kemp...Excerpt... "From a racial point of view it is worth noting that neither the original Old European Mediterranean White peoples nor the original Semitic peoples exist in their original form any more. While retaining certain physical characteristics, both these groups have been mixed substantially with each other and other racial groups as a result of the ebb and flow of historical events in the Middle East. It is also important to realize that although there existed a Semitic racial type, confusion exists when the term "Semitic" is used. Very often when mention is made of the word "Semite" it is presumed that it is to Jews whom reference are being made - this is a false assumption. The Jews of ancient times were most certainly as pure a Semitic speaking people as could be found, but in modern times are a mix of a great many races, from Black right through to all of the White sub-races, so it would be factually incorrect to refer to the Jews of today as pure Semites. Semitic speaking tribes also encompassed a number of other tribes in the Middle East, as is the case still today. In the same way most of the other inhabitants of the modern Middle East are racial mixtures (although they tend not to have as large an admixture of European sub-groupings as the European Jews have) with the result that there are very few pure "Semites" left even in the Middle East. Nonetheless, the history of the ancient Middle East is dominated by centuries of physical struggle between these White and Semitic peoples, with each group establishing civilizations which in turn were overrun by one or more of their two rivals, or, just as often, by a racially similar tribe. Control of the Mesopotamian River Valley swung between these groups for thousands of years, with each successive invasion bringing with it an impetus of new blood and culture. For a long period, however, the White tribes were able to hang on to the higher lands to the north east of the Tigris/Euphrates river basin, while various Semitic tribes occupied parts of previously Indo-European held territory within the Near East. As a result of this continual crossover of civilizations and shared geographical area, the racial distinctions of the peoples became more and more blurred, and towards the close of this epoch it becomes more and more difficult to identify clear racial groups as opposed to named cultures. Ultimately, the disappearance of the distinct racial groupings in the region led to the torch of civilization being passed to what were then more homogeneous societies - first in Egypt and then to the classical Greek and Roman civilizations."
thank you Eoghan
that is intersting article, Cynicom
thank you for your kind words, ghostdogtxn
very good commentary. i'm surprised at some of the names on that short list.
very educative. thank you for posting it, Cyni.
palo, I'm glad you spoke up. Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld and I share some common culture and racial origins and I despise them. I wouldn't want anyone to throw me into the same basket with them! Sometimes discussions can get careless, sometimes definitions are unclear or differ among us. There are threads here that examine some sensitive subjects, but not to be hateful. I like reading Tony Judt's perspective on current events: Ron Paul for President
If they're falsely accused then they're not true Jew haters now are they?
Cyni, For our own mental health, I suggest we limit our hate to the more egregious offenders. I've whittled my list down to the following, in no particular order; Syracuse, soccer, most holidays, family, both immediate and extended, Bush, patriot Kooks, tar, excessive sweating, flying fish, bible thumpers, and enormous, smelly people who sit next to me on any public conveyance.
Shill, huh? Such an easy word to sling. What exactly am I shilling for?
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
You made a stupid comment about me, one that you can't support, I see. Seems to be the case with several of you people here.
"You people"!? "You people"!!? What the hell is that supposed to mean!? You racist motherfucker.
"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡
your list. hilarious. :D
me too
What the hell is that supposed to mean!? I am referring to those who accuse me of being a "shill" yet can't support that accusation.
Great list, especially Syracuse. The Syracuse 'Orange'...LOL!!!
Jethro... I posted the excerpt from Arthur Kemps book for a very good reason. If you take note of the last paragraph, Kemp states very plainly that it is difficult to identify racial groups as opposed to naming CULTURE groups. Some cannot or will not accept that "Jew/semetic as a RACE has not existed for a very long time, it is more nearly a CULTURE. From Kemp... "towards the close of this epoch it becomes more and more difficult to identify clear racial groups as opposed to named cultures"
What a ugly town,
only surpassed by its pitiful football team, which is the only true way to
judge a university in AmeriKa. (and yes, that's only a partial list. I
left out tartar sauce, the word diversity and people who believe the glass is
half full.)
If I tell that to the Orthodox Jews on Ocean Parkway, they'll give my whitzle another snitzle leaving me with a nub too small to rub.
Ever wonder why you are now listed as "white" and not Caucasian???
I assume it has something to do w/the word Negro.
That the dream of the in-bred rulers - they'll have a world of dumbed-downed, ignorant mutts to rule.
Good heavens no. Has nothing to do with race. My birth certificate says "caucasian".
My birth certificate was confiscated by homeland security along with 4 boxes of kosher salt.
Jethro... Kosher salt? There has to be a joke there somewhere.
It was for Y2k - is my best guess. Just like the 200 cases of Spam.
Poeple, who don't really hate jews, are falsely smeared as jew haters in order to discredit their ideas. You say: If they victims don't really hate jews then they are not really jew haters are they? And your point is what? Are we supposed to take this miserable bait and overlook the entire point of the aritcle?
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And your point is what? That there are indeed people falsely accused of being Jew haters. But that doesn't mean there aren't any real Jew hating losers.
But that doesn't mean there aren't any real Jew hating losers. The article lists a group falsely accused of being Jew haters. You jump in and try to obfuscate the point with an innane post stating: "If they don't really hate Jews then they arn't Jew haters are they?". You then get your nose rubbed in this. To save face you come back and explain yourself with the idiotic post above, i.e., some people are Jew haters and some people arn't. LOL! Congrats. You are the most inept and idiot propagandist I've yet seen on this board.
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That must be because I'm not really a propagandist.
here are some of the comments at the link
#2. To: All (#0)
with link to article
and thanking him for providing a great Ron Paul interview
I encourage anyone else to also write and thank him
because this is the best way I know to make more great Ron Paul interviews happen on Fox
Love, Palo
#3. To: palo verde (#1)
sending American troops into harm’s way without a declared war is a dereliction of duty by the congress
#4. To: Sam Houston (#3)
The reason there has been no "declaration of war" since 1941 is that, by signing onto the United Nations Charter, all wars of all signatories are supposed to be sanctioned by that "world body."
#5. To: palo verde (#1)
Very impressed with this guy. Im not big on politics but Ive been worried where our country is heading lately, and this guy really seems to know what we need and how to get us back on the right track. Ill definitly be voting for this guy.
#6. To: Cynicom (#5)
(poster on thread) Very impressed with this guy. Im not big on politics but Ive been worried where our country is heading lately, and this guy really seems to know what we need and how to get us back on the right track. Ill definitly be voting for this guy.
Therein lies the American problem. Where have these people been for the last 50 years.
until clinton had sex with Monica
I tuned in to hear all about the sex
everyone did, but they tuned out when the news about the sex finally ended
but I got caught up in following news and politics very intimately
and have been intrigued fascinated committed ever since
to 100 per cent committed to saving our Constitution
I am just glad they tuned in
now is the time to save our country
and I pray most tune in now
#7. To: all (#0)
"I believe in spreading democracy, not with guns but rather by example."
- Dr. Ron Paul
#8. To: palo verde, christine, lodwick (#0)
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#9. To: palo verde (#6)
I am just glad they tuned in
#10. To: who knows what evil (#8)
#11. To: palo verde, wbales, Brian S, ++Must Watch Ron Paul Interview with Foxy Fox++ (#0)
#12. To: All (#11)
#13. To: All, Red Jones, Zipporah, HOUNDDAWG, Orangedog, tom007, randge, farmfriend, Calamity, AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt, Diana, historian1944, ghostdogtxn, ..., Mekons4, aristeides, Arete, Ferret Mike, christine, Jethro Tull (#12)
#14. To: robin (#13)
#15. To: robin (#13)
#16. To: robin (#13)
I wouldn't work so hard to elect Ron Paul President if I didnt believe 100%
it is the way to save our country and the world now
Love, Palo
amd let us share it with the world
#17. To: Calamity (#15)
Love, Palo
#18. To: palo verde (#17)
you're the best Calam Love, Palo
#19. To: All (#18)
#20. To: lodwick (#10)
They wanted the government to fear the people - not vice versa.
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#21. To: Calamity (#19)
Let us all take a moment to remember.
#22. To: Cynicom, robin, lodwick, christine, palo verde (#9)
The interviewer was not really interested in what he had to say.
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#23. To: who knows what evil (#22)
..notice how she tried to tie Dr. Paul to the "Alex Jones crowd" right out of the box.
#24. To: palo verde (#0)
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#25. To: palo verde (#0)
#26. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#25)
#27. To: christine (#26)
or at least got many viewers to think.
#28. To: who knows what evil (#22)
Notice how she tried to tie Dr. Paul to the "Alex Jones crowd" right out of the box.
#29. To: who knows what evil (#22)
notice how she tried to tie Dr. Paul to the "Alex Jones crowd" right out of the box.
#30. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#25)
Ron Paul's wasting his breath by saying this on Fox News. The people who watch Fox are all either brain washed or brain dead
and I continued to watch Fox News till June 2000 when I started to be on net 24/7
if I am typical example of Fox's brain wazhed or brain dead viewer
I think Ron Paul's interview will electrify them
Love, Palo
#31. To: Pinguinite (#24)
Looks like the link is getting tons of activity.
you have made my day
Love, Palo
#32. To: who knows what evil (#22)
..notice how she tried to tie Dr. Paul to the "Alex Jones crowd" right out of the box.
#33. To: Mister Clean, who knows what evil, Sam Houston (#29)
(Who Knows What Evil) I notice how she tried to tie Dr. Paul to the "Alex Jones crowd" right out of the box.
(I think he is a paid disinformationist)
however, he was the first one to have Ron Paul on his radio show
the instant Ron Paul announced his candidacy
and I am grateful to him for that
Love, Palo
#34. To: palo verde (#33)
I am no fan of Alix Jones (I think he is a paid disinformationist) however, he was the first one to have Ron Paul on his radio show the instant Ron Paul announced his candidacy
#35. To: Cynicom, who knows what evil (#32)
Why is Ron Paul "tied" to Alix Jones, just because Alix interviewed him on the radio
George Noory announced on his show (Coast-To-CoastAM) he supports Ron Paul
and wants to interview him on his show
That is a UFO show
It doesn't mean Ron Paul is "into" UFOs
Love, Palo
that has huge mass audience
it is an all night show
and truckers often call in
#36. To: Mister Clean (#34)
Ron Paul has been on Jones's radio show enough to set himself up to be "linked" to Jones.
that is your free will
#37. To: palo verde (#36)
that is your free will
#38. To: palo verde (#33)
#39. To: Calamity (#19)
August 6, 1945.
#40. To: who knows what evil, Mister Clean (#29)
To: who knows what evil
#41. To: palo verde (#36)
you don't like Ron Paul, you don't want him to be our President
#42. To: Ringo Blankenship (#40)
Thus, I don't blame Ron Paul for appearing on the Alex Jones show because he was reaching a large audience.
#43. To: palo verde (#35)
Why is Ron Paul "tied" to Alix Jones, just because Alix interviewed him on the radio...
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#44. To: Cynicom (#37)
#45. To: christine (#38)
i can't think of anyone who works as hard as he does in the effort to educate people and to help save America from the evil tyrants who RULE it.
#46. To: who knows what evil (#43)
If they can attach him to anyone perceived as a 'kook'; they hope it will scare away potential supporters.
#47. To: Mister Clean (#42)
#48. To: Mister Clean (#42)
The point is, by appearing numerous times on Jones' show, Paul set himself up for the question of being "linked" to the kook.
#49. To: christine (#38)
he's an absolute tireless activist who loves this country.
#50. To: robin (#47)
how would you describe your agenda?
#51. To: christine (#38)
on what do you base your opinion, palo? have you taken the time to listen to Alex enough to think he's a "paid disinformationist?" Alex is here in Austin, as you know, and i've been around him quite a bit. he's an absolute tireless activist who loves this country. i can't think of anyone who works as hard as he does in the effort to educate people and to help save America from the evil tyrants who RULE it.
I guess Geroge Noory likes Alix
I listened with open mind
I was curious about Alix
when it was over that was the perception of him I had
since I know many people like, respect, and trust him
Love, Palo
#52. To: robin (#47)
Paul has been on MSM, does that link him to MSM? ABC, Fox, and late night comedy too, the Daily Show with Jon Stewart. Oh my, is Paul just a comedian then?
#53. To: Ringo Blankenship (#48)
A kook with a large and seemingly growing audience.
#54. To: robin (#47)
BTW, how would you describe your agenda?
#55. To: palo verde (#51)
#56. To: Mister Clean (#49)
#57. To: christine (#56)
depends on what the definition of victory is.
#58. To: Mister Clean (#54)
#59. To: who knows what evil (#43)
good post
Love, Palo
it is not going to succeed
citizens have minds
and will put Ron Paul in the White House
the mass media will just have to lump it
anyone who listens to him realizes he is the only sane person running for the Presidency now
and will bring us a sane Executive Branch
this election is crucial
if we don't get Ron Paul in the White House, our country will turn dark
#60. To: robin (#58)
you tell me
#61. To: palo verde (#30)
#62. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#61)
When Clinton was in office, Fox News seemed like an alternative, however flawed, to the administration's propaganda
that is why I watched it
I was too demoralized and depressed by his administration
I had campaigned for him, I believed his administration would be all about restoration of rule of law
I am sorry how things turned out
Love, Palo
#63. To: Mister Clean (#57)
Well, if selling conspiracy products and website subscriptions are "victories" he's probably had some.
#64. To: Mister Clean (#57)
(Edited)
Well, if selling conspiracy products and website subscriptions are "victories" he's probably had some.
#65. To: Calamity (#44)
Perhaps RP's message can help others see politics for what it is and should be.
#66. To: honway (#64)
http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=58715
#67. To: Cynicom (#65)
He is the lone voice in the wilderness and some people would cut the trees down to make sure he is unheard.
#68. To: Mister Clean (#60)
Well, so far my agenda is to have lunch soon.
#69. To: honway (#64)
If it were not for individuals like Alex Jones, there would be very few Americans aware that this latest al-qaeda boogyman,Adam Yehiye Gadahn, is actually an alias for an American born Jew named Adam Pearlman.
#70. To: Mister Clean, palo verde (#53)
There are a lot of kooks out there.
#71. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#25)
He's wasting his breath by saying this on Fox News. The people who watch Fox are all either brain washed or brain dead.
#72. To: palo verde (#59)
if we don't get Ron Paul in the White House, our country will turn dark
#73. To: palo verde (#59)
if we don't get Ron Paul in the White House, our country will turn dark
#74. To: robin, Mister Clean (#47)
Paul has been on MSM, does that link him to MSM? ABC, Fox, and late night comedy too, the Daily Show with Jon Stewart. Oh my, is Paul just a comedian then?
#75. To: Mister Clean (#34)
Ron Paul has been on Jones's radio show enough to set himself up to be "linked" to Jones.
#76. To: scrapper2, Mister Clean (#75)
#77. To: Dakmar (#76)
Mister Clean got an ugly agenda don't he scrapper? Wow!
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#78. To: IndieTX (#77)
#79. To: honway (#63)
More other people's blood and treasure for your agenda?
#80. To: scrapper2 (#75)
So would you say the same pithey phrase holds true for the Presidential candidates who have been linked to that enormously powerful flea-ridden/America last organization known as AIPAC?
#81. To: honway (#64)
If it were not for individuals like Alex Jones, there would be very few Americans aware that this latest al-qaeda boogyman,Adam Yehiye Gadahn, is actually an alias for an American born Jew named Adam Pearlman.
#82. To: scrapper2 (#74)
I think Dr. Paul reached many many college aged 20's and early 30's voters by being given face time by Jon Stewart, Colbert, and Mahrer. If there's a ground swell of college aged Elect Ron Paul and End the Iraq War activism across campuses, the R and D political operatives/minions will be sweating big time. Folks like Mr. Clean no doubt are somewhat nervous about that audience because in the past they could count on those folks not voting.
#83. To: Mister Clean (#79)
I don't sell anyone's blood or treasure for my agenda.
#84. To: Dakmar (#83)
Bullshit, you defend the biggest gangsters every day.
#85. To: Mister Clean (#84)
Quote me or shut up.
#86. To: Jethro Tull (#85)
#87. To: Mister Clean (#80)
scrapper: So would you say the same pithey phrase holds true for the Presidential candidates who have been linked to that enormously powerful flea-ridden/America last organization known as AIPAC?
#88. To: Mister Clean (#82)
I have no stake in the Iraq fiasco. I have reach a state of blissful apathy regarding Iraq.
#89. To: Dakmar (#85)
"9-11 movement has peaked"
#90. To: scrapper2 (#87)
So would you say the same pithey phrase ( which you blithely ascribed to Dr. Ron Paul) holds true for the Presidential candidates who have been linked to that enormously powerful flea-ridden/America last organization known as AIPAC?
#91. To: scrapper2 (#88)
You fail again in being none too subtle with regards to traits #6 and #7 of a disinformationalist...
#92. To: Mister Clean (#91)
You're babbling.
#93. To: scrapper2 (#92)
Otoh, maybe you're the best that our de-valued dollar can buy these days...sigh...
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#94. To: scrapper2 (#92)
Otoh, maybe you're the best that our de-valued dollar can buy these days...sigh...
#95. To: scrapper2 (#92)
You are not half as intelligent as the other disinformationalists who have popped up on 4um previously.
#96. To: Mister Clean (#95)
Whatever. I'm simply not interested
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#97. To: Eoghan (#96)
Seriously, BAC had around 10+ post lists organized and ready at a moment's notice...with links, mostly - dead ones. But at least really gave an effort?
#98. To: Mister Clean (#97)
I don't care about the 08 election.
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#99. To: Dakmar (#86)
#100. To: Rupert_Pupkin (#25)
He's wasting his breath by saying this on Fox News. The people who watch Fox are all either brain washed or brain dead.
#101. To: Mister Clean (#97)
I don't care about the 08 election.
#102. To: BlueEyedGirl (#101)
Then why would you be posting on a thread about a candidate?
#103. To: Dakmar (#85)
9-11 movement has peaked" - the nigger clean
#104. To: scrapper2 (#71)
Love, Palo
#105. To: scrapper2 (#74)
you have accurate grasp on things
Love, Palo
#106. To: LACUMO (#100)
(RP) He's wasting his breath by saying this on Fox News. The people who watch Fox are all either brain washed or brain dead.
#107. To: palo verde (#106)
as a Jewish girl some of the anti-Jewish posts on this forum are starting to wear me down...
#108. To: palo verde (#106)
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#109. To: palo verde (#106)
as a Jewish girl some of the anti-Jewish posts on this forum are starting to wear me down...
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#110. To: palo verde (#106)
as a Jewish girl some of the anti-Jewish posts on this forum are starting to wear me down...
#111. To: Cynicom (#110)
This country is falling apart because millions of people are deciding they want to be Hispanic, Latino, Mexican or whatever.
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#112. To: palo verde (#106)
as a Jewish girl some of the anti-Jewish posts on this forum are starting to wear me down...
#113. To: LACUMO (#100)
No way! If he would have refused the neocons and the jewish news mafia would have a field day making excuses that he was afraid to be interviewed or some other bullshit.
#114. To: Mister Clean (#112)
(Edited)
They are nothing more than miserable, negative, resentful failures who need to blame Jews for their own shortcomings.
#115. To: Cynicom (#114)
Perhaps you care to define the term Jew hater???
#116. To: robin (#13)
#117. To: Mister Clean (#115)
Someone who hates Jews.
#118. To: Cynicom (#117)
Also define what is a Jew, I really would like to see that.
#119. To: Mister Clean (#118)
I'm not interested in wasting my time discussing the definition of a Jew.
#120. To: ghostdogtxn (#116)
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#121. To: Cynicom (#119)
Why not be honest enough to admit you have not the slightest inkling of what constitutes a Jew.
#122. To: who knows what evil, Palo Verde (#120)
#123. To: Mister Clean (#121)
I'm not interested in playing your little game. Find somebody else who cares, okay?
#124. To: ghostdogtxn (#116)
Newscaster Barbie thought she was going to be doing a hit piece on Ron Paul, but I thought he took her to the woodshed quite gently.
#125. To: Cynicom (#123)
Hate is the quickest human emotion to arise, and is often disguised by accusing others of hatred.
#126. To: Mister Clean (#125)
America is full of idiots who gobble that kind of shit up.
#127. To: robin (#124)
#128. To: Cynicom (#126)
You have a good day.
#129. To: Mister Clean (#118)
Bottom line: Jew haters are failures who direct their own self-loathing at the Jewish people.
We Are Known By The Company We Keep
#130. To: ... (#129)
Or they are people who are framed that way because they disagreed with some Israeli policy - as the article below indicates:
#131. To: ... (#129)
#132. To: scrapper2 (#107)
Love, Palo
#133. To: Eoghan (#108)
Oh palo...no one's here is anti-Jewish. No one cares about belief systems whats so ever. Stop being a shrinking violet. There's no time for that...just a small sliver of time to get with the program....Do it now
I guess the definition of a Jew hater is someone who thinks the world would be better off without Jews
You are right it is my own personal problem I find anti-Jewish posts a drag
I am not sure it is a shrinking violet problem tho
it is cause I read one anti-Jewish post too many
and it was a good experience for me in many ways
I admired the forum owner from the bottom of my heart,
I knew it was a passion for free speech that he allowed anyone to say anything on his forum
And I knew my heart beat as one with him
When I first discovered I was in the midst of Jew haters,
I posted "I am Jewish girl, do I belong on this forum"
and instantly I got private email from him, saying
"I sense discomfort Palo, what can I do to help?"
But I had resolved it for myself, by deciding it was their problem if they want to hate Jews,
and it had nothing to do with me, I would go right on being perfectly happy and loving all
So I thanked him for his private mail, and said I am fine and thanked him for his forum
I am sorry he left his own forum -- he was someone I greatly admired. (John Deere)
I finally did leave that forum, but it wasn't because of the Jew haters,
who as a rule were very nice to me personally.
Some posters from Clown Posse came over and for kicks "rated" all my posts as "disruptive",
so I was classed as an obscene poster and my posts were not shown on open forum.
Since this is all computerized, and John Deere is no longer there, there wasn't much I could do about it.
I had friends there who helped me get back on open forum -- but when it started up again,
I thought "I can't stay on a forum where there is no sane moderation," so I left.
The problem for me is, I read so many gazillions and gazillions of Jew hating posts there,
is the straw which broke the camel's back phenomenon.
Now I just find them a drag.
but hating Mexicans, Jews, Muslims
is incompatible in my mind with why I want so much for Ron Paul to be President --
because I believe our country was conceived in love and liberty for all.
Love, Palo
#134. To: who knows what evil (#109)
you are an angel
I love you
Palo
#135. To: Cynicom (#110)
thank you
Love, Palo
#136. To: palo verde (#134)
...you are an angel...
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#137. To: Cynicom (#117)
I never thought of wondering what the answers would be
here is my best guess
Love, Palo
#138. To: palo verde (#135)
you are sweet to encourage me to stay on 4um, Cynicom
#139. To: palo verde (#133)
#140. To: Cynicom (#138)
#141. To: who knows what evil (#136)
You are a strong, unflappable advocate for Congressman Paul...
please don't let his enemies silence you.
Help us get this good man into the White House
and you know we will succeed
no way the colonists could have succeeeded back then without His help
and He will do for us what He did for them back then
adhere to truth , love it , and want liberty for all
Love, Palo
#142. To: palo verde. everyone here (#137)
Here's the site that taught me the difference between Jews (Torah) and Zionists (Talmud) -
#143. To: palo verde (#133)
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#144. To: ghostdogtxn (#139)
(Palo) This may offend everyone I have ever been on a forum with,
as I usually keep my mouth shut on forums,
but hating Mexicans, Jews, Muslims is incompatible in my mind
with why I want so much for Ron Paul to be President --
because I believe our country was conceived in love and liberty for all.
thank you
I appreciate your post more than words can speak
All my love, Palo
#145. To: palo verde (#141)
...honey, you know I will do everything in my power to get Ron Paul in the White House and you know we will succeed
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#146. To: palo verde (#144)
#147. To: palo verde (#137)
as for the definition of a Jew, it simply means your parents were Jewish
#148. To: Eoghan (#143)
Nice post palo
LibertyForum is very suspicious to me....
I have no complaints about Liberty Forum except for their automated self- moderation system,
which was abused by a pernicious few
I received so much love on that forum, I am deeply in debt to those posters
I encountered so many beautiful loving people there
who went out of their way to show me friendship
I haven't been back in 2 years, so perhaps it has changed
but I am filled with gratitude for my experience there
Love, Palo
#149. To: Cynicom (#147)
I did not know any of it
thank you for posting it
Love, Palo
#150. To: ghostdogtxn (#146)
I am very happy to be on a forum with you
Love, Palo
#151. To: ... (#129)
#152. To: Cynicom (#147)
As a result of this continual crossover of civilizations and shared geographical area, the racial distinctions of the peoples became more and more blurred, and towards the close of this epoch it becomes more and more difficult to identify clear racial groups as opposed to named cultures.
#153. To: palo verde (#150)
And I would be extremely offended if someone did group me with them or Rev. Hagee; just as I am offended by attacks against Christianity.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tony_Judt
#154. To: ... (#129)
Or they are people who are framed that way because they disagreed with some Israeli policy - as the article below indicates:
#155. To: Cynicom (#147)
#156. To: ghostdogtxn (#140)
If anyone meets the definition of a disruptive shill, it's mr. cling.
#157. To: Mister Clean (#156)
#158. To: ghostdogtxn (#157)
Piss off, prick. I didn't ping you.
#159. To: Mister Clean (#158)
you people
#160. To: SmokinOPs (#159)
#161. To: Jethro Tull (#155)
#162. To: ghostdogtxn, SmokinOps (#160)
LOL.
#163. To: SmokinOPs (#159)
"You people"!? "You people"!!?
#164. To: Jethro Tull (#155)
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#165. To: Jethro Tull (#155)
For our own mental health, I suggest we limit our hate to the more egregious offenders.
#166. To: who knows what evil, christine, all (#164)
The Syracuse 'Orange'
#167. To: Cynicom (#165)
Jew/semetic as a RACE has not existed for a very long time, it is more nearly a CULTURE.
#168. To: Jethro Tull (#167)
If I tell that to the Orthodox Jews on Ocean Parkway, they'll give my whitzle another snitzle leaving me with a nub too small to rub.
#169. To: Cynicom (#168)
#170. To: Cynicom (#165)
"towards the close of this epoch it becomes more and more difficult to identify clear racial groups as opposed to named cultures"
#171. To: Jethro Tull (#169)
I assume it has something to do w/the word Negro.
#172. To: Cynicom (#171)
#173. To: Jethro Tull (#172)
4 boxes of kosher salt.
#174. To: Cynicom (#173)
#175. To: Mister Clean (#154)
If they're falsely accused then they're not true Jew haters now are they?
#176. To: ... (#175)
You say: If they victims don't really hate jews then they are not really jew haters are they?
#177. To: Mister Clean (#176)
That there are indeed people falsely accused of being Jew haters.
#178. To: ... (#177)
Congrats. You are the most inept and idiot propagandist I've yet seen on this board.
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