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Title: Iraq vet confronts Mitt
Source: Salon
URL Source: http://www.salon.com/politics/war_r ... 8/10/veteran_romney/index.html
Published: Aug 11, 2007
Author: Tim Grieve
Post Date: 2007-08-11 16:51:18 by Zipporah
Keywords: None
Views: 505
Comments: 10

DES MOINES -- The Iowa State Fair is not a political event. It is a place for prized cattle, fried Twinkies, enormous gourds, the Harry Potter butter sculpture (with butter Quidditch stick), and carnival barkers hawking the "Amazing Wonder Knife" for only $20, if you act now.

But with the Republican straw poll just hours from opening, politics has set up shop at the fair. Not that most people really notice. Kansas Sen. Sam Brownback and former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee were due to come through Friday. California Republican Duncan Hunter spent at least 30 minutes walking by the corndog stalls, a steak sandwich in hand, with hardly anyone stopping to shake his hand. (It was easy to tell who he was because he wore a cowboy hat with his bumper sticker on it.)

The exception was Mitt Romney, the former Massachusetts governor, who is widely expected to win the straw poll. Wherever he went, he created some commotion, if only because he was being trailed by at least a dozen journalists, a half-dozen cameras and at least three of his sons. At one point this afternoon, he grabbed a microphone, stopping a crowd of about 100 for a shortened version of his stump speech.

Afterward, it got interesting. While Romney was shaking hands, an Iraq war veteran started calling out Romney's name. Ron Devoll Jr. is a 26-year-old from Cedar Falls, Iowa, who was wounded in Iraq by a mortar round. He was wearing a Red Sox baseball cap. Here's the transcript of what happened next:

DEVOLL: I'm an Iraq veteran. (Romney reached out to shake his hand.)

ROMNEY: Thank you for your service, and go Red Sox.

DEVOLL: If you were elected when would you pull the troops out?

ROMNEY: When the job is done, and hopefully that gets done soon, and the surge is successful. I sure hope it is going to be successful.

DEVOLL: Don't you think this is compared to the Vietnam War?

ROMNEY: It is by a lot of people. But I think it is different in a lot of respects, and the key respect is this: And that is that if this becomes, if we leave in the wrong way there, this could become a conflict that could engulf the entire region and potentially draw us back again into a worse situation. And so I believe the surge, I hope the surge will be successful. We're going to give it a shot. We are going to hear what Petraeus has to say in a month, and hopefully it will be successful. We can start bringing our troops home. That's what I would like to see.

DEVOLL: But why aren't we...

Devoll never got to finish asking his third question. Romney's traveling press secretary, Eric Fehrnstrom, announced to everyone that Romney had to go somewhere else to be. "Thank you very much," Fehrnstrom said.

But Devoll, who said he once voted Republican, was just getting started. "I think that Romney was disrespectful," Devoll told reporters after the candidate had left. "I tried to ask him questions. You know I am an Iraq vet who served my country and he can't give me a few minutes of his time, and he wants to walk off. I think that's really disrespectful," he said.

"I was wounded over there," he added. "I lost a lot of friends over there."

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#1. To: Zipporah (#0)

When the job is done, and hopefully that gets done soon,

too bad Devoll didn't think to ask and what job is that, pray tell.

christine  posted on  2007-08-11   17:05:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: Zipporah (#0)

I think that's really disrespectful

Of course it was. He's a politician and continuing the discussion would be bad for his ambitions. What do you expect?

You should talk to Ron Paul instead.

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Pinguinite  posted on  2007-08-11   17:22:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: christine (#1)

Isn't that the truth. I was reading something earlier where the liar in chief figures results are important....he said we were killing 1500 insurgents a month since January.

That would be about 10,500. Sure puts the lie, one way or the other, to all the bullshit numbers floated about 3,000 to 20,000 insurgents they were yakking about the past 5 years.

rowdee  posted on  2007-08-11   17:33:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Zipporah (#0)

DEVOLL: I'm an Iraq veteran. (Romney reached out to shake his hand.)

Quote of the Day

Iraq war supporter and GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney, asked today about the fact that not one of his five sons has served in the U.S. military: "One of the ways my sons are showing support for our nation is helping me get elected because they think I'd be a great president."

Romney noted that one of his sons is driving around Iowa in an R.V. to help spread the Romney message. Which is like driving a Humvee through Baghdad, only different.

catcher  posted on  2007-08-11   17:38:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: catcher (#4)

Romney noted that one of his sons is driving around Iowa in an R.V. to help spread the Romney message. Which is like driving a Humvee through Baghdad, only different.

lol!

Ron Paul for President

robin  posted on  2007-08-11   17:48:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: rowdee (#3)

That would be about 10,500. Sure puts the lie, one way or the other, to all the bullshit numbers floated about 3,000 to 20,000 insurgents they were yakking about the past 5 years.

LOL. Check out this exchange with BAC from 2005. It is classic BeAChooser idiocy- and about the time I bozooed him as a game playing boob and a shill.

The Daily Burkeman1

Burkeman1  posted on  2007-08-11   18:33:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Burkeman1 (#6)

You really know how to punish someone don't you.......have to read that BAC crap! Yuck.

40,000? Hmmmm.......... They made that shit up as they go along. Unbelievable. 2005---by now I bet they'll tell ya there's half a million there!

rowdee  posted on  2007-08-11   19:57:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: rowdee (#3)

he said we were killing 1500 insurgents a month

Every bit as bogus as the fabricated body counts from the Viet Nam days. Drop a bomb on 20 civilians and they become dead insurgents in the reports. Who is there to report the truth?

Arete  posted on  2007-08-11   20:06:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: rowdee (#7)

The obvious falsehood of the claims then and now about the size of the insurgency is what gets me. As a number of non MIC owned military experts have pointed out- given the population pool size from which the insurgency is drawn and the terrain and factoring in modern battlefield medicine that have reduced KIA's by as much as 5 times- Iraq is MORE intense than Vietnam and clearly there is far less support among the Iraqi population for the American occupation as there was among South Vietnamese.

There is no weekend leave for the troops to go drinking in Baghdad like there was for the troops in Saigon. They are so hated and so oppossed they can't get a cup of coffee at a local cafe in Baghdad unless fully armed and in platoon size at a minimum.

One commentator early on made the observation upon reading that local bases were setting up Starbucks franchises to serve the troops- that if Americans were drinking coffee in the saftey of their bases flown in by an American corporation in the midst of a country with a coffee culture and the freshest single source beans in the world then there something terribly wrong with the whole thing.

The Daily Burkeman1

Burkeman1  posted on  2007-08-11   20:15:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Burkeman1 (#9)

Very interesting.....and stands the test of reasoning.

rowdee  posted on  2007-08-11   21:03:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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