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Title: AMES: Romney WIns; Huckabee In Second
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Atlantic Online
URL Source: http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/
Published: Aug 11, 2007
Author: Atlantic Online
Post Date: 2007-08-11 21:27:00 by Brian S
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11 Aug 2007 09:12 pm Gov Mitt Romney won the 2007 Ames straw poll, receiving 4516 votes, or 31%. In a surprise, Gov. Mike Huckabee finished second with 2587 votes at 18.1% 11. John Cox with 41 votes. 10. John McCain with 101 votes. 9. Duncan Hunter with 174 votes. 8. Rudy Giuliani with 183 votes. 7. Fred Thomson with 231 votes. 6. Tommy Thompson, 1,009 votes, 7.3% 5. Ron Paul with 1305 votes, and 9.1% 4. Tom Tancredo with 1961 votes, 13.7%. 3. Sen. Sam Brownback with 2192 votes and 15.3% Iowa state auditor David Vaudt unofficially certified the results. 14,203 ballots were cast.
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#10. To: Critter (#9)
You're right - it's a carny shell game - and we're the stooges. BLOAT.
(Indie TX) since it cost $30 bucks a vote to "vote." (tom007) Did I hear you right????? That's not a poll I read it costs $35 to vote
$35 a ballot, and half of the ballots purchased were never used.
The U.S. Constitution is no impediment to our form of government.--PJ O'Rourke
(tom007) Did I hear you right????? That's not a poll I read it costs $35 to vote and don't forget Romney may have paid to have supporters bussed in Only in AMerIKa
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition my sweet love, please do not allow yourself to get discouraged
interesting so does that mean the Romney campaign bought ballots in bulk
lol we haven't lost the election
The thing here to remember on this evening is that the MESSAGE was heard... loud and proud it was heard... Ron Paul 2008
If there's a more logical explanation, I haven't heard it.
The U.S. Constitution is no impediment to our form of government.--PJ O'Rourke
ALWAYS. i just want to be profane right now.
have you read Lizza's report about the straw poll
Go for it! I love it when you talk dirty.
another GOP fixed vote. delayed for an hour? the GOP is a criminal enterprise. there is no saving that freakshow. i'm getting ready to post an article from the WP called The Fix.
Cyni doesn't. ;P
Supposedly, about half of the tickets purchased did not vote. Yeah right.
OK, you can PM the dirty talk to me...
great minds :P
No new mail yet... waiting...
So if half the tickets Romney bought weren't used
Do her laundry and the toilets. :))) So Rommy is PAYING people to vote for him, is this what this thread is revealing??
"The penalty good men pay for indifference to public affairs is to be ruled by evil men" Plato
Plus free food, free entertainment, the opportunity to meet Laura Ingraham and Ann Coulter -- as well as the candidates -- activities for the children, get some face time on national TV ... the list goes on. Perhaps Romney (or whoever) purchased the tickets so supporters of other candidates could not.
The U.S. Constitution is no impediment to our form of government.--PJ O'Rourke
And the best free food. Jeff tried it out and brought some to the Ron Paul volunteers who were greeting people in the heat and humidity. ;) Jeff of justin.tv spoke to a few Romney people, they were curious about the camera on his head. They even interviewed him. None of the other campaigns had a live feed.
It would be more accurate to say he is subsidizing people voting for him. Heavily subsidizing.
The U.S. Constitution is no impediment to our form of government.--PJ O'Rourke
That's not a poll. This is news to me, also. I got an alert, that Paul came in fifth in this "poll".....
Swimming around in my bourbon highball..... WAS THIS A POLL, OR A TUPPERWARE PARTY???
Swimming around in my bourbon highball..... (Percy) WAS THIS A POLL, OR A TUPPERWARE PARTY??? lol you crack me up :) LOL I found out that Romney paid the $35 for all his supporters' tickets
I have to say, voter fraud is all over the country. I have seen it in various local elections for at least the past decade. It's getting pretty bad on some levels.
Swimming around in my bourbon highball..... he paid for their ticket to vote and according to DeaconBenjamin and still half the tickers he bought were unused
the results would be more accurate if everyone paid for their own ticket
So the variables on this little experiment are all over the place. Some were paid for and bussed in, others were not, and there was more than one candidate who had extra, unused voting cards?
Swimming around in my bourbon highball..... deja vu over and over and over again
Our country has a real voter fraud problem. Regardless of who one's candidate is.
Swimming around in my bourbon highball..... Bingo! Altho I am guessing Romney is the one who could not get half the people he bought voting cards for my hunch is Brownbeck's supporters got the churches to buy voting cards
It appears some of these campaigns are not even hiding their methods anymore.
Swimming around in my bourbon highball..... It is no mistake that Iowa is the first contest in the country that sets up the front runners for the following primaries. It is the most subject to easy manipulation by elites. Does anyone know a real live Romney supporter? I don't. And my aquaintences are more apt to be GOP members and or self described "conservatives" and I also live in Massachusetts! He is a creature of the Beltway 100 percent. I remember when Howard Dean was running at 30 percent in a field of 8 other Dems- with no one even near him- a month before Iowa back in 2003. John Kerry- literally 30 days before had 2 percent support in Iowa polls. Then- an infusion of money from Beltway powerhouse Ted Kennedy and plane loads of "volunteers" on the Kennedy payroll fanned out all over Iowa to arm twist and cajole local party leaders and more than likely pass out the bags of money. At the same time an MSM campaign against Dean started up- with daily stories in the New York Times rehashed on the Networks and picked up in local papers that were going back ten years or more to talk about Vermont "scandals" long since dead involving Dean. And lo and hold- John Kerry came out the winner in Iowa- a guy whose name was barely known only 30 days earlier in that state and who had ZERO grass roots support. It was a setup. And one I predicted on Free Republic when all the dopes there thought Dean was going to win. I knew DC would never let a wild card like Dean get near the nomination. Now- Dean has long since been neutered and marginalized by being made party chair (which is a sop position as the parties structures have little real power any longer.)
I'm glad you said this, because I was thinking the same thing. I guess the Mormon and money connection spoke today?
Swimming around in my bourbon highball..... Just wondering. It cost $35 bucks to vote in the 'poll'. Just who benefits from the nearly $1 million dollars that is collected in this 'scam'?
"You Never Have To Sacrifice One Bit Of Liberty For Freedom - Ron Paul
Iowa GOP.
"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs
You misunderstood me. It was not just Romney who provided the free food and entertainment. As for "the opportunity to meet Laura Ingraham and Ann Coulter -- as well as the candidates -- activities for the children, get some face time on national TV ..." -- these were simply opportunities available to all who attended the straw poll.
The U.S. Constitution is no impediment to our form of government.--PJ O'Rourke
I am sorry I misunderstood
the GOP
coinkidinks bump
#11. To: tom007, IndieTX (#8)
and don't forget Romney may have paid to have supporters bussed in
#12. To: IndieTX (#5)
#13. To: palo verde (#11)
(Indie TX) since it cost $30 bucks a vote to "vote."
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#14. To: All (#11)
I posted this to lodwick on another thread
but it belongs to this thread
I know nothing about the straw poll
who participates in it, etc
where it is located (perhaps Romney bussed in his supporters)
we knew from the beginning, this was not going to be an easy win (the Presidency for Ron Paul)
LOL
all we thought was we could win
and some of us (me) knew we would win
please try to take heart
Ron Paul may have only gotten 10 per cent of the vote in the straw poll
and don't forget Romney spent millions on this straw poll, plus all out effort
Romney had to win it to prove to the big money men behind the GOP that he should continue as their choice
Ron Paul didn't have to win it
those of us committed to putting Ron Paul in the White House don't change our mind
because of his showing in the Iowa straw poll
Darling, we are building momentum
we are still at the start
there will be an avalanche for Ron Paul at the end
because his campaign will snowball
Love, Palo
#15. To: DeaconBenjamin (#12)
$35 a ballot, and half of the ballots purchased were never used.
but not everyone they thought would use it, actually showed up?
#16. To: lodwick, critter (#10)
(lodwick to critter) You're right - it's a carny shell game - and we're the stooges
all we lost was the Iowa straw poll
big deal!
#17. To: All, lizza76 (#16)
great post by Lizza76
on another thread just now
Ron Paul supporters were all over Fox news...
they couldn't help it it was in their face!
And if anyone who watched Justin TV as I did will note, the support was there and it was great....
more people took notice today than they did yesterday!
That was the entire point of him being there!!!!
They did an amazing job...
they didn't buy votes, and still had more supporters there and HAPPY with the end results
than Romney whose supporters didn't look or sound happy after all was said and done!
#18. To: palo verde (#15)
#19. To: IndieTX, Critter, robin, Brian S, palo verde, lizza76 (#5)
The best results money can buy.
#20. To: DeaconBenjamin (#18)
scroll up to find it
she explains the true meaning of this event (for us)
it sounds like the Ron Paul campaign got everything it wanted from it and more
we did great
Love, Palo
#21. To: christine (#19)
i just want to be profane right now.
Enemies of the Republic
#22. To: Critter, tom007, DeaconBenjamin (#9)
#23. To: Critter, Cynicom (#21)
Go for it! I love it when you talk dirty.
#24. To: christine (#22)
Enemies of the Republic
#25. To: christine (#23)
Enemies of the Republic
#26. To: Critter (#25)
#27. To: christine (#26)
Enemies of the Republic
#28. To: DeaconBenjamin (#18)
then it means half the people were not willing to vote for him,
even given a free ticket, plus free transportation provided for them
this is not enthusiastic support for him
#29. To: Critter (#25)
OK, you can PM the dirty talk to me...
#30. To: palo verde (#28)
So if half the tickets Romney bought weren't used then it means half the people were not willing to vote for him, even given a free ticket, plus free transportation provided for them
#31. To: palo verde (#28)
#32. To: tom007 (#29)
#33. To: tom007 (#8)
it cost $30 bucks a vote to "vote." Did I hear you right?????
#34. To: palo verde (#11)
I read it costs $35 to vote and don't forget Romney may have paid to have supporters bussed in
#35. To: PercyDovetonsils (#34)
(Palo) It costs $35 to vote and don't forget Romney paid to have his supporters bussed in
smooooch
Love, Palo
they didn't even have to shell out the 35 to vote for him
#36. To: palo verde (#35)
#37. To: tom007, DeaconBenjamin (#29)
(Tom007) So Rommy is PAYING people to vote for him, is this what this thread is revealing??
and he paid to have them bussed in
he also provided Plus free food, free entertainment, the opportunity to meet Laura Ingraham and Ann Coulter -- as well as the candidates --
activities for the children, get some face time on national TV ...
the list goes on.
he could not get the other half to come and vote for him...
#38. To: All (#37)
and had to supply their own transportation
#39. To: palo verde (#37)
#40. To: FormerLurker (#2)
Seems like they sort of made up whatever numbers they thought they could get away with.
#41. To: christine (#40)
#42. To: PercyDovetonsils (#39)
So the variables on this little experiment are all over the place.
Some were paid for and bussed in, others were not,
and there was more than one candidate who had extra, unused voting cards?
to come and vote for him
He is the one with money galore
(and spent millions on this event)
I am guessing that all the vote-cards for Romney were paid for by the Romney campaign
and the churches bussed in their congregations
probably most of their voting cards were used...
#43. To: palo verde (#42)
#44. To: Critter (#9)
#45. To: Burkeman1 (#44)
Does anyone know a real live Romney supporter? I don't. And my aquaintences are more apt to be GOP members and or self described "conservatives" and I also live in Massachusetts! He is a creature of the Beltway 100 percent.
#46. To: All (#0)
#47. To: Brian S (#46)
#48. To: palo verde (#37)
#49. To: DeaconBenjamin (#48)
and I appreciate you clarifying it for me
It is interesting all the events the straw poll provided
I had no idea
Love, Palo
#50. To: Brian S (#46)
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