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Title: Diebold Optical-Scan System Fails in Iowa GOP Straw Poll!
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Brad Blog
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Published: Aug 12, 2007
Author: Brad Blog
Post Date: 2007-08-12 08:13:25 by Zipporah
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if (window.document.getElementById('post-4946')) window.document.getElementById('post-4946').parentNode.className += ' adhesive_post'; Guest Blogged by John Gideon of http://VotersUnite.org As we reported on July 15, Ron Paul's supporters were concerned that Diebold touch-screen voting machines were going to be used in the Iowa Republican Straw Poll. Well, it turns out the concerns about touch-screens were misplaced, as the GOP chose paper-based Diebold optical-scan machines instead. But their fears of Diebold may well have been justified as two of their op-scan systems failed and delayed the reported results. While GOP candidate Mitt Romney may have walked away with a winning edge in the Iowa Straw Poll, Diebold was true to form as their voting system failed to count ballots correctly. As the Des Moines Register is reporting two of Diebold's optical scanners failed and 1500 paper ballots had to be manually recounted by hand... Two machines caused the problem, said State Auditor David Vaudt. “What likely happened is someone submitted their ballot too quickly after the other,” he said. The ballots from those machines were hand counted, then re-fed into the system to recalculate the vote. A campaign poll-watcher said in one instance, a black box contained 500 paper ballots but the machine’s memory said it had scanned in 498. At least there were paper ballots that could be hand counted when the machines failed. Had the Republican's used Direct Recording Electronic (DRE) voting machines --- as millions of Americans are forced to do each Election Day --- there would have been nothing to go back to when the machines failed. UPDATE: The Atlantic is reporting the number of ballots which had to be "re-run" as 4500. Either way, there were reportedly 14,203 total ballots cast. So going by the Des Moines Register's reported numbers, more than 10.5% of the ballots had to be recounted. If we go by The Atlantic's reported numbers, nearly 32% of the ballots in the Iowa Republican Straw Poll had to be recounted by hand.
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#1. To: Zipporah. everyone (#0)
So what happened to the other 25,797 voters that were projected to participate in the poll?
No paper trail works best for the regime.
14,000 ballots is not too many to count efficiently by hand.
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now this is interesting in regard to "paper ballots" from Brad Blog: John, They were not ballots, according to the puss. If a computer prints them, they are "print outs" not paper ballots.And you know that print outs are unholy. I suggested otherwise, but I had not checked in with puss central who asked god directly I suppose, then issued this papal bull. Be sure to check and make sure anything you say about paper ballots is oked by the puss first. His paper ballot religion is the one true paper ballot religion. ******************************************** You still say that "paper ballot" in the text of HR 811 and S. 559 does not mean what it says. Consider the definition of "paper" the bills require: `(A) DURABILITY REQUIREMENTS FOR PAPER BALLOTS - All voter-verified paper ballots required to be used under this Act (including the emergency paper ballots used under paragraph (14)) shall be marked, printed, or recorded on durable paper of archival quality capable of withstanding multiple counts and recounts without compromising the fundamental integrity of the ballots, and capable of retaining the information marked, printed, or recorded on them for the full duration of the retention and preservation period called for by title III of the Civil Rights Act of 1960 (42 U.S.C. 1974 et seq.) or under applicable State law, whichever is longer. (See S. 559 / Holt orig). The term archival quality paper is a term of art generally used for special documents that must withstand handling over a long period of time. ******************************************** It is beyond silly to think electrons in memory (DRE) can be called archival quality paper able to endure multiply hand counts! What this requirement in the bills does is require DRE machines to record each ballot seperately so the ballots can be hand counted repeatedly as needed. That would be during every audit and every recount by hand. DRE electrons cannot be counted by hand and are not paper. That much is clear and you are avoiding these facts for some reason. No, they are not ballots, nor can they be considered ballots by any stretch of the imagination. These fancy archival-quality printouts can sit in a bin uncounted while the machines instead count electronic figments of somebody's imagjnation... maybe the voters' intentions, maybe not. There is nothing in Holt's fiasco of a bill that requires that each DRE-produced printout be counted. And even your eternally twisting logic must acknowledge that if it is not required to be counted... then it's not a ballot. (ps... and that still leaves all the other different ways that the current mutation of the bill screws with our democratic processes...)
"Another mysterious accident solves a Bush problem. Athan Gibbs dead, Diebold lives." He wanted every vote to matter; Athan Gibbs, Sr. dies in crash
Go Diebold! (They are an employer in town here; their success is our success.)
"Just another isolated incident..."
I bet they just mis-fed the machine. Or didn't use the approved LARGE black 'magic marker' to mark the ballots. Didn't see if they addressed that in the original article.
Incredible Romney/Huckabee/Brownback bus fleets = Low turnout
Excitement at Fred's Tent
ping to Eoghan's video on the Romney/Huckabee/Brownback bus fleets at Ames
Pikers. Posts from My Man MItt: http://www.mymanmitt.com/mitt- romney/#6292319668308582799 9 Comments: Anyone who tries spinning that Romney's win wasn't anything short of impressive should be reminded that Mitt could have had any size victory he wanted. He deliberately scaled back the operation because he's a nice guy. Period. There's not any point in running up the score against the second tier. I do wonder about the rumors that Mitt helped Huckabee to make sure Brownback would lose. By Anonymous, at August 12, 2007 12:58 AM mitt would have lost by 400 votes to steve forbes in 2000. ouch. By The Dude, at August 12, 2007 1:00 AM I'm a hardcore Romney supporter, but I'm going to have to disagree with the comment above. Romney scaled back his effort somewhat to save some dough, and not to be a "nice guy". He IS a nice guy, but if he thought he could get a bunch more cost-effective votes, he would have. With winning in politics . . . "THE BIGGER, THE BETTER" By Jeff Fuller, at August 12, 2007 1:01 AM Dude. 1999: Apples 2007: Oranges Someone buy the dude a clue. By Anonymous, at August 12, 2007 1:02 AM Don't forget the 100+ degree heat index. Romney said there was about a 20- 25% "attrition rate" that was mostly due to the forecast of heat. By Jeff Fuller, at August 12, 2007 1:03 AM Also, the 1999 GOP was JAZZED about ousting the shameless Bill Clinton. The GOP was the party of power then. Quite a different story than now, eh? By Jeff Fuller, at August 12, 2007 1:05 AM Bigger, better, sure. But Jeff, you said it yourself that he had the largest margin of victory ever. How much bigger did it need to be, and how would it have been any better? By Anonymous, at August 12, 2007 1:08 AM The whole 1999 argument is an interesting way to downplay the game. I’m just wondering why Rudy or McCain dropped out if Romney is similar to a Forbes with lots o cash in 1999 and ends up in second place. Why the fear? They both saw the risk and stayed away. Do we want a risk-averse President? But at least they’re in the race. Fred lost my interest when he felt that staying off the island is the best way to not be voted off. (roflmbo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!~ me) It’s hard for me to believe the overall drop in interest in Ames is because McCain and Rudy dropped, although that definately would have increased the numbers, but things aren’t as rosy for us Republicans as it was in 1999. Not as many independents like to stand with us today as back when Clinton was lying to all of us about a blue dress. By Anonymous, at August 12, 2007 3:20 AM The Dud said, "mitt would have lost by 400 votes to steve forbes in 2000
I don't like the word Chipotle.
rofl Follow her line of 'logic'. If you take the bus, you must stay on the plantation. I was at the Straw Poll yesterday, and it was incredible. I have a hard time believing there were only 4500 of us yellow-shirted supporters there--I wonder how many were turned away from voting? There were two of us in my bus (35 folks) who were turned away. One had a CA drivers license and one forgot to bring ID. Another friend of mine had a US passport (not IA issued, so it didn't count), and got turned away. I know my bus captain didn't call and remind to bring IDs, but that would have been really good to do. I was impressed that they used the bus rides as a chance to show Mitt videos--very good use of time, and got a lot of discussions going. I was amazed at how many "undecided" Mitt supporters were on my bus--I am pretty sure they voted for him, but on the way home we were still fielding and resolving concerns. As to the Cry Babies about buying votes, ever since I have followed the straw poll, you have had front runners competing at a level that included a lot of spending, including paying for buses. If they want to pretend that that isn't the modern reality, that is fine. What I did see was a LOT of Ron Paul supporters going through the Mitt folks trying to sway votes. Excuse me, but if you (a) try to stop the voting with court action, (b) don't do the campaigning and fund-raising needed to get folks there for you, and then (c) try to poach someone else's bused-in supporters, then I would say you have a pretty hypocritical and poorly conceived campaign. Mitt had it right when he made the comment a few weeks back that the Straw Poll is a test of organization. George Bush bused in supporters. Brownback and Huckabee only had to look at the past and know what to expect from a true front- runner. We can look at the results and say that it truly was a test of organization. Do you want someone who shows up looking for supporters, or someone running the country who knows how to get the job done, and doesn't underestimate the task at hand? Last comment--I am really sad at the bridges Huckabee burnt when he started going negative on Mitt. I think he would have made a great vice presidential nominee. By Camber, at August 12, 2007 2:01 PM I don't like the word Chipotle.
Undecided...nothing to do on a Saturday. Hang out for few hours, eat Mitt's catering. The buses must have left early since Mitt's staff were the only people left at vote count time. Wow, the MSM couldn't found these people to interview and get an accurate story? Mitt's on his way down and Huckabee shot his wad in Ames. These people are totally devoid of reality....that's Iowa.
The level of intelligence (or lack of) is staggering. I can't paint any state with a broad brush, other than having to acknowledge entrenched voting blocks for the lobotomized. I think I'm going to strap a stuffed dog on the roof of my car, and create a sticker that says, Mitt & Mike !! Romney and Vick!! A friend to animals, and a friend to you. If denying torture and abuse is your bag, THEY ARE YOUR GUYS.
I don't like the word Chipotle.
I was referring to the death of Athan Gibbs...
"Another mysterious accident solves a Bush problem. Athan Gibbs dead, Diebold lives." He wanted every vote to matter; Athan Gibbs, Sr. dies in crash I'll repost those links for easy reference. Athan Gibbs was speaking out about the importance of a paper trail when a semi drove him off the road and killed him. As an accountant, Gibbs knew the importance of a paper trail and never intended his idea of electronic voting to ever be used w/o a paper trail. In an interview on WVKO radio, Gibbs calmly and methodically explained the dangers of "black box" touch screen voting. "It absolutely makes no sense to buy electronic voting machines that can't produce a paper trail. Inevitably, computers mess up. How are you going to have a recount, or correct malfunctions without a paper trail?
Yet, the "official" number recounted is 1500. Hmmm. 4500 - 1500 = 3000 missing votes. Ron Paul's offical tally was 1305. If we add 3000 to 1305, we get 4305. Mitster Romney came away with 4516. I wonder how the media would report it if Ron Paul walked away with 4305, just 211 votes shy of the "winner"?
Im sorry but anyone who's a party person and is at that level cant be a nice guy.. or he has to have some not very nice guys working for him.. and I still think about the dog on top of the car for 12 hours that doesnt ring of nice guy to me..
lol. i don't either. i don't like the way they taste either. :P
Out of curiousity, could you please tell me what makes Mitt Romney qualified to be President of the United States?
It's his hair.
What's up with that? I grow hot peppers; I love hot peppers; I love jalapenos (especially stuffed and wrapped with bacon); but the whole idea of 'chipotle' just freaks me out. I can't even pronounce it. I have issues, I guess.
I wouldn't be the least surprised. John Edwards must catch her eye at times also... :) < Just kidding Calamity. Please tell me your thoughts, I'm interested in knowing why you like Romney so much.. >
I believe those are someone else's comments from a 'Mitt' blog...
Calamity is all for Ron Paul. I owe her 2 boxes of Kleenix because of 2 very moving Ron Paul videos I posted today.
Singapore for Ron Paul
Sorry Calamity if I misjudged your words.
Another good video for Ron Paul.
http://www.votefraud.org/iowa_straw_poll_2007_report_affidavit_part1.htm
Everyone remember to vote with absentee ballots come Primary voting day. Make an added statement by bringing the filled absentee ballot into the polling place personally to give other voters (standing in line to play the Diebold video game) a clue.
http://www.rense.com/general77/iowa.htm Ron Paul Defrauded By Iowa Straw Poll By Jim Condit, Jr NetworkAmerica 8-15-7 1. The voting process at the Iowa Straw Poll was a fraud, wrapped in lies. (Whenever those running any kind of an election use police power to hide all the ballots from the people, and then announce results (?) when supposedly (?) only they have seen the ballots those people are frauds, are acting like Stalin-esque tyrants, and their organization is a fraud. That award goes in our current drama to the Iowa GOP leadership, namely Ted Sporer, Chuck Laudner, Mary Tiffany, Craig Robinson, and Chairman Ray Hoffman. What they did to Ron Paul and all those who paid $35 to vote in the Iowa Straw Poll, and all those who entered into a contract with them by paying $35 to support the event, is UNCONSCIONABLE! These KGB/GESTAPO TYPES, groveling before the sinister banking powers in NYC and behind the RNC and the DNC, -- and acting as their enforcers in Iowa -- hid all the EVIDENCE (the ballots) at the Iowa Straw Poll and announced the alleged results based on their assertion alone which the rest of us are supposed to take and believe on blind faith! I am joined by already thousands of others in saying: WE DON'T BELIEVE YOU! You hid the evidence! You have hidden the ballots and now you have had time to switch the ballots! You fronted for crooks, thieves, enemies of America, enemies of honest people everywhere! ... There is only one reason to hide the ballots from press, from candidates, and from the people because those so hiding the ballots want to keep open the option to cheat to rig the election. The evidence is the BALLOTS, which should have been kept in public view all day, and counted in the presence of ALL factions, before said ballots leave the public view. ... Hear ye! Hear ye! The Ron Paul Campaign has confirmed to callers what was repeated at the event itself -- that the campaign bought and gave away 800 tickets. The "Adopt an Iowan group" (an independent effort) has published that they had collected $22,500 and purchased 643 tickets. (By the way, since the "Adopt and Iowan" page won't allow you to copy it, I have printed it out to preserve the documentation.) So now we are being asked to believe that Ron Paul got less votes (1305) than the tickets purchased by the campaign and the "Adopt an Iowan" campaign (totally 1443) and that NO ONE in Iowa came on their own to pay $35 and vote for Ron Paul !!!!! The Ron Paul Campaign AND the Adopt an Iowan campaign kept track of who the tickets were given to (I hope). This is enough affidavits to prove that the announced Diebold "count" was wrong. And we want to find as many other Iowa citizens as possible who paid $35 out of their own pocket to vote so we can get their affidavits also. This seems to be a smoking gun. This will be the greatest and most irrefutable proof ever that a Diebold computer was used to rig an election! We need the affidavits of any Iowan who voted for Ron Paul at the Ames, Iowa Straw Poll. If we succeed then we will have the proof that the Diebold computers at the Iowa Straw Poll of 2007 were rigged. If you voted in the Iowa Straw Poll on August 11, 2007 and if you need an affidavit to make sure your vote counts, and especially if you want to help us prove whether or not the result published for Ron Paul was accurate you can go to: http://www.votefraud.org/iowa_straw_poll_2007_report_affidavit_part1.htm
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http://www.rense.com/general77/fuzzy.htm Because of the heat most folks were at least trying to get in the shortest lines they could find, and it did not appear that any of the 3 locations were underutilized. FUZZY MATH #1 So we know from the state Auditor that one 'problem' machine contained 500 votes. Assuming most machines contained a similar pattern of use, then they should also contain about the same number of votes. 60 (machines) x 500 = 30,000 votes. That is more than TWICE as many as the official count. Based on a total vote count of 14,301, if all machines were used about equally, then the average number of votes per machine SHOULD have been 238 {14,301 (total votes) / 60 (machines) = 238 votes per machine}. What are the odds that one of the machines that 'malfunctioned' and actually gave up an audited vote tally would contain TWICE as many votes as the 'average' machine? But it gets worse FUZZY MATH #2 State Auditor David Vaudt (who unofficially certified the vote count) said that there were only 2 machines out of the 60 that were inconsistent (paper printout vs. electronic tabulation) and needed to be recounted. Mary Tiffany of the Iowa GOP said that a total of approximately 1500 votes were re-fed into the Diebold machines. Since we know that there were only two machines that were a problem and one of them contained 500 votes, then the second machine must have contained about 1000 ballots, which is more than FOUR TIMES what the 'average' machine should contain based on a total vote of 14,301. It seems more likely that there were actually 3 problem machines, and the true average per machine was about 500 votes, which would have resulted in a total vote of about 30,000 which is twice the official total vote count. Also note that 26,000 tickets were said to have been sold, so we are asked to believe that only about half those people voted. MORE UNUSUAL NUMBERS The day before the election the Iowa GOP stated on their web site that they expected to raise $1.2 million in ticket sales, which is 34,000+ tickets. This number jives much more closely with the fact that the single audited machine (that we know of) contained 500 ballots. The vast majority of tickets are pre-sold. Yet, on the day of the event they said they had only sold about 26,000 tickets. How did they manage to grossly overestimate the tickets to be sold (8000+ off) within 24 hours of the event? The evening before the Straw Poll, a local TV news show carried a story that the expected attendance for the next day had just been increased from a maximum of 40,000 up to 45,000 - 50,000. Yet, according to the Iowa GOP, the very next day only 30,000 to 33,000 showed up.
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ping to this and previous 2 posts on this thread.... You all know that Ron Paul placed "only fifth" in the Iowa Straw Poll (after it took them one and a half hour to "reprogram" the voting machines, LOL). The Texas Straw Poll in Fort Worth on August 31st to September 1st will be an even tougher nut to crack. The Texas GOP made damn sure that only the most loyal neo-com voters and converts will participate. Only those who were GOP delegates in any of the past four election cycles are eligible to vote. On the up-side, the Texas conservative base is indeed very conservative. Just read the Texas GOP platform. Sounds like Ron Paul himself wrote it, in many places, doesn't it? Should be quite easy to remind voters that Ron Paul is the only one with even a prayer of actually implementing this - unless they prefer another sellout like George. Anyway, if you wan to help, please register yourself by following this link and the instructions provided there. There are about 3,000 people who receive this RSS Feed. If only 100 of you will help, that will be absolutely awesome! With only a few hundred attendees who will vote for Ron Paul, WE WILL WIN THIS!! They can use all of the shenanigans they want to use - in the end, we the people will win, hands down. THANK YOU ALL! Alex Wallenwein Ron Paul for President - Join a Ron Paul Meetup group today!
Either way, there were reportedly 14,203 total ballots cast.
#2. To: Zipporah (#0)
At least there were paper ballots that could be hand counted when the machines failed. Had the Republican's used Direct Recording Electronic (DRE) voting machines --- as millions of Americans are forced to do each Election Day --- there would have been nothing to go back to when the machines failed.
#3. To: Zipporah (#0)
#4. To: Pinguinite, robin (#3)
#5. To: Zipporah (#4)
No, they are not ballots, nor can they be considered ballots by any stretch of the imagination.
#6. To: Zipporah (#0)
#7. To: robin (#5)
"Another mysterious accident solves a Bush problem. Athan Gibbs dead, Diebold lives."
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#8. To: who knows what evil (#7)
"Just another isolated incident..."
#9. To: robin (#5)
He whom buses the most...
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#10. To: All (#9)
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#11. To: Eoghan, wbales, lodwick, Brian S, aristeides, Cynicom, christine, Dakmar, palo verde, Pinguinite (#9)
#12. To: robin (#11)
TOO FUNNY!
#13. To: Eoghan (#9)
Notes from Mitt's bus:
#14. To: Calamity (#13)
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#15. To: Eoghan (#14)
Mitt's on his way down and Huckabee shot his wad in Ames. These people are totally devoid of reality....that's Iowa.
#16. To: EdCondon, robin (#8)
"Just another isolated incident..."
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#17. To: who knows what evil, EdCondon (#16)
No, they are not ballots, nor can they be considered ballots by any stretch of the imagination.
#18. To: Zipporah (#0)
UPDATE: The Atlantic is reporting the number of ballots which had to be "re-run" as 4500.
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#19. To: Calamity (#12)
He deliberately scaled back the operation because he's a nice guy.
#20. To: Calamity (#12)
I don't like the word Chipotle.
#21. To: Calamity (#12)
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#22. To: FormerLurker (#21)
#23. To: Calamity (#12)
I don't like the word Chipotle.
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#24. To: robin, Calamity (#22)
It's his hair.
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#25. To: FormerLurker (#24)
Just kidding Calamity. Please tell me your thoughts, I'm interested in knowing why you like Romney so much..
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#26. To: FormerLurker (#24)
#27. To: robin (#26)
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#28. To: who knows what evil, robin, Calamity (#25)
I believe those are someone else's comments from a 'Mitt' blog...
You appear to be a major trouble maker...and I'm getting really pissed. - GoldiLox, 7/27/2006
#29. To: Eoghan (#27)
#30. To: robin (#29)
Iowa RP voters affidavit count...
“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"
#31. To: Zipporah (#0)
From Two Party System... ...to Two Family System.
#32. To: Zipporah (#0)
#33. To: All (#32)
#34. To: All, lodwick, christine, lizza76, Calamity, Cynicom, wbales, Brian S (#33)
Aug 13, 2007, PLEASE HELP WITH TEXAS STRAW POLL!
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