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Title: Diebold Optical-Scan System Fails in Iowa GOP Straw Poll!
Source: Brad Blog
URL Source: http://bradblog.com/
Published: Aug 12, 2007
Author: Brad Blog
Post Date: 2007-08-12 08:13:25 by Zipporah
Keywords: None
Views: 429
Comments: 34

Diebold Optical-Scan System Fails in Iowa GOP Straw Poll!
Results Delayed as Atleast 1500 Paper Ballots Re-Counted By Hand (Fortunately, There WERE Paper Ballots To Re-Count!)
Ron Paul Supporters Were Right to be Worried About Republican's Choice of Diebold to Tally Votes...

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Guest Blogged by John Gideon of http://VotersUnite.org

As we reported on July 15, Ron Paul's supporters were concerned that Diebold touch-screen voting machines were going to be used in the Iowa Republican Straw Poll. Well, it turns out the concerns about touch-screens were misplaced, as the GOP chose paper-based Diebold optical-scan machines instead. But their fears of Diebold may well have been justified as two of their op-scan systems failed and delayed the reported results.

While GOP candidate Mitt Romney may have walked away with a winning edge in the Iowa Straw Poll, Diebold was true to form as their voting system failed to count ballots correctly. As the Des Moines Register is reporting two of Diebold's optical scanners failed and 1500 paper ballots had to be manually recounted by hand...

Voting machine difficulties delayed the announcement of the vote totals. About 1,500 ballots needed to be recounted, said Mary Tiffany, a spokeswoman for Republican Party of Iowa.

Two machines caused the problem, said State Auditor David Vaudt. “What likely happened is someone submitted their ballot too quickly after the other,” he said. The ballots from those machines were hand counted, then re-fed into the system to recalculate the vote. A campaign poll-watcher said in one instance, a black box contained 500 paper ballots but the machine’s memory said it had scanned in 498.

At least there were paper ballots that could be hand counted when the machines failed. Had the Republican's used Direct Recording Electronic (DRE) voting machines --- as millions of Americans are forced to do each Election Day --- there would have been nothing to go back to when the machines failed.

UPDATE: The Atlantic is reporting the number of ballots which had to be "re-run" as 4500.

Either way, there were reportedly 14,203 total ballots cast. So going by the Des Moines Register's reported numbers, more than 10.5% of the ballots had to be recounted. If we go by The Atlantic's reported numbers, nearly 32% of the ballots in the Iowa Republican Straw Poll had to be recounted by hand.

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#3. To: Zipporah (#0)

14,000 ballots is not too many to count efficiently by hand.

Pinguinite  posted on  2007-08-12   13:22:53 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Pinguinite, robin (#3)

now this is interesting in regard to "paper ballots" from Brad Blog:

John,

They were not ballots, according to the puss. If a computer prints them, they are "print outs" not paper ballots.And you know that print outs are unholy.

I suggested otherwise, but I had not checked in with puss central who asked god directly I suppose, then issued this papal bull. Be sure to check and make sure anything you say about paper ballots is oked by the puss first. His paper ballot religion is the one true paper ballot religion.

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You still say that "paper ballot" in the text of HR 811 and S. 559 does not mean what it says. Consider the definition of "paper" the bills require:

`(A) DURABILITY REQUIREMENTS FOR PAPER BALLOTS - All voter-verified paper ballots required to be used under this Act (including the emergency paper ballots used under paragraph (14)) shall be marked, printed, or recorded on durable paper of archival quality capable of withstanding multiple counts and recounts without compromising the fundamental integrity of the ballots, and capable of retaining the information marked, printed, or recorded on them for the full duration of the retention and preservation period called for by title III of the Civil Rights Act of 1960 (42 U.S.C. 1974 et seq.) or under applicable State law, whichever is longer.

(See S. 559 / Holt orig). The term archival quality paper is a term of art generally used for special documents that must withstand handling over a long period of time.

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It is beyond silly to think electrons in memory (DRE) can be called archival quality paper able to endure multiply hand counts!

What this requirement in the bills does is require DRE machines to record each ballot seperately so the ballots can be hand counted repeatedly as needed.

That would be during every audit and every recount by hand. DRE electrons cannot be counted by hand and are not paper. That much is clear and you are avoiding these facts for some reason.

No, they are not ballots, nor can they be considered ballots by any stretch of the imagination.

These fancy archival-quality printouts can sit in a bin uncounted while the machines instead count electronic figments of somebody's imagjnation... maybe the voters' intentions, maybe not.

There is nothing in Holt's fiasco of a bill that requires that each DRE-produced printout be counted.

And even your eternally twisting logic must acknowledge that if it is not required to be counted... then it's not a ballot.

(ps... and that still leaves all the other different ways that the current mutation of the bill screws with our democratic processes...)

Zipporah  posted on  2007-08-12   14:35:19 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: Zipporah (#4)

No, they are not ballots, nor can they be considered ballots by any stretch of the imagination.

"Another mysterious accident solves a Bush problem. Athan Gibbs dead, Diebold lives."

He wanted every vote to matter; Athan Gibbs, Sr. dies in crash

robin  posted on  2007-08-12   14:39:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: robin (#5)

He whom buses the most...

Incredible Romney/Huckabee/Brownback bus fleets = Low turnout

Eoghan  posted on  2007-08-12   15:50:18 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Eoghan (#9)

Notes from Mitt's bus:

rofl Follow her line of 'logic'. If you take the bus, you must stay on the plantation.

I was at the Straw Poll yesterday, and it was incredible. I have a hard time believing there were only 4500 of us yellow-shirted supporters there--I wonder how many were turned away from voting? There were two of us in my bus (35 folks) who were turned away. One had a CA drivers license and one forgot to bring ID. Another friend of mine had a US passport (not IA issued, so it didn't count), and got turned away. I know my bus captain didn't call and remind to bring IDs, but that would have been really good to do. I was impressed that they used the bus rides as a chance to show Mitt videos--very good use of time, and got a lot of discussions going. I was amazed at how many "undecided" Mitt supporters were on my bus--I am pretty sure they voted for him, but on the way home we were still fielding and resolving concerns.

As to the Cry Babies about buying votes, ever since I have followed the straw poll, you have had front runners competing at a level that included a lot of spending, including paying for buses. If they want to pretend that that isn't the modern reality, that is fine. What I did see was a LOT of Ron Paul supporters going through the Mitt folks trying to sway votes. Excuse me, but if you (a) try to stop the voting with court action, (b) don't do the campaigning and fund-raising needed to get folks there for you, and then (c) try to poach someone else's bused-in supporters, then I would say you have a pretty hypocritical and poorly conceived campaign.

Mitt had it right when he made the comment a few weeks back that the Straw Poll is a test of organization. George Bush bused in supporters. Brownback and Huckabee only had to look at the past and know what to expect from a true front- runner. We can look at the results and say that it truly was a test of organization. Do you want someone who shows up looking for supporters, or someone running the country who knows how to get the job done, and doesn't underestimate the task at hand?

Last comment--I am really sad at the bridges Huckabee burnt when he started going negative on Mitt. I think he would have made a great vice presidential nominee. By Camber, at August 12, 2007 2:01 PM

http://www.mymanmitt.com/mitt- romney/#7564102590170619131

Calamity  posted on  2007-08-12   16:31:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Calamity (#13)

Undecided...nothing to do on a Saturday. Hang out for few hours, eat Mitt's catering. The buses must have left early since Mitt's staff were the only people left at vote count time. Wow, the MSM couldn't found these people to interview and get an accurate story?

Mitt's on his way down and Huckabee shot his wad in Ames. These people are totally devoid of reality....that's Iowa.

Eoghan  posted on  2007-08-12   16:47:54 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  


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#15. To: Eoghan (#14)

Mitt's on his way down and Huckabee shot his wad in Ames. These people are totally devoid of reality....that's Iowa.

The level of intelligence (or lack of) is staggering. I can't paint any state with a broad brush, other than having to acknowledge entrenched voting blocks for the lobotomized.

I think I'm going to strap a stuffed dog on the roof of my car, and create a sticker that says, Mitt & Mike !! Romney and Vick!! A friend to animals, and a friend to you. If denying torture and abuse is your bag, THEY ARE YOUR GUYS.

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