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Title: What the Media Should Report About the Ames Straw Poll
Source: http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/
URL Source: http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/200 ... s/ames-straw-poll-results.html
Published: Aug 12, 2007
Author: http://www.usaelectionpolls.com/
Post Date: 2007-08-13 11:53:49 by robin
Keywords: None
Views: 321
Comments: 20

What the Media Should Report About the Ames Straw Poll

8/12/07

Mike Huckabee and Ron Paul Were Clear Winners, Mitt Romney Was a Loser

"Often, however, the media do not actually interpret poll results, but instead present simple, straightforward descriptive statements about them... Measures of association, correlation analysis, and multivariate statistical analyses are virtually nonexistent" - Asher, Ohio State University

I would first like to congratulate Mitt Romney for his impressive win at the Ames Straw Poll before I start criticizing him and tell you what the media is not reporting.

CandidateOfficial Vote Count Percentage

Mitt Romney451631.5%
Mike Huckabee 2587

18.0%
Sam Brownback 219215.3%
Tom Tancredo196113.7%
Ron Paul

13059.1%
Tommy Thompson10397.2%

Fred Thompson2031.4%

Rudy Giuliani1831.2%
Duncan Hunter174

1.2%
John McCain1010.7%
John Cox410.3%

When you consider all the money Romney had spent in order to win the Ames Straw Poll, he did not do well at all. I do not know the actual dollar amount spent by the Romney campaign but I think it would be safe to say that it was on the order of hundreds per vote. But Romney is a smart businessman, he understands that winning this event will generate tons of free positive media attention worth far more than the petty millions he spent for Ames.

I cannot give the Romney campaign the win here today because his 31% at Ames is already close to the 27% he got in the University of Iowa poll earlier this month. Compare that to Mike Huckabee who got only 3% in that same poll getting 18% here.

What's even worse for Romney is the fact that Giuliani, McCain, Gingrich, and Fred Thompson were not even vying for votes at the Ames Straw Poll yet they are included in the polls that have Romney in the high-20s. And add to that the fact that 20% of Republican voters are undecided and you should have had a slam dunk by Romney by at least a 5:1 margin over his next closest competitor.

Actual Results - of the Latest Iowa Polls

CandidateUniv. of Iowa ABC News ARGResearch 2000
Mitt Romney27%26%21%25%

Rudy Giuliani11%14%22%13%

Fred Thompson7%13%13%14%

Tom Tancredo4%5%1%2%

Sam Brownback4%5%1%2%

John McCain3%8%17%10%

Mike Huckabee3%8%1%2%

Tommy Thompson -4%2%2%

Ron Paul-2%1%1%

Duncan Hunter-1%2%1%

Newt Gingrich--4%6%

Unsure31%7%15%22%

Other10%1%--

None of these-4%--

So what we did is we took the last 4 poll results and removed all the votes for Giuliani, McCain, F. Thompson, Gingrich, and the Undecideds and divvied up the rest of the votes to see the percentage.
Normalized Results - Removing Giuliani, McCain, F. Thompson, Gingrich, and Undecideds
Candidate

Univ. of Iowa ABC News ARGResearch 2000
Mitt Romney

71%51%72.4%71.4%
Tom Tancredo

10.5%9.8%3.4%5.7%
Sam Brownback

10.5%9.8%3.4%5.7%
Mike Huckabee

7.9%15.7%3.4%5.7%
Tommy Thompson

0%7.8%6.9%5.7%
Ron Paul

0%3.9%3.4%2.9%
Duncan Hunter

0%2.0%6.9%2.9%
Percent of Total Poll

38%51%29%35%

Flaws. The flaw with this is the error in assuming that voters who favor those candidates we had removed would be distributed across the rest of the candidates in the exact same proportions. The same would be true of the way the votes would spread out with the undecideds and the decideds. The last flaw is that by removing votes you decrease the sample size which results in a grossly high margin of error as much as 9%.

Despite all of that, 3 out of the 4 polls suggest that Romney would be getting 71-72%. And by averaging all of those normalized averages, we correctly predict the Top 4 finishers in exactly the same order they came in.
CandidateCombined Normalized Average Straw Poll Average Percent Gain

Net Gain
Mitt Romney66%31.5%NEGATIVE

-34.5
Mike Huckabee8.2%18.0%220&

+9.8
Sam Brownback7.4%15.3%207%

+7.9
Tom Tancredo7.4%13.7%185%

+6.3
Tommy Thompson 5.1%7.2%141%

+2.1
Ron Paul2.6%9.1%350%

+6.5
Duncan Hunter3.9%1.2%NEGATIVE

-2.7

According to this estimate, Romney should have had an 8:1 margin of victory over his next closest competitor. In fact, I heard some analysts that made this exact conclusion.. they probably did something very similar to me to get their prediction.

I think the pundits that claimed Romney's win would be very comfortable hurt him in this Straw Poll. Much like when Clinton went for reelection in 1996 and all the pollsters claimed an easy Clinton victory, many voters were apathetic and just stayed home on election day. The same could have been true of Romney's supporters expecting a very comfortable win.

There is also the the likelihood that the Unsure voters flocked towards the other candidates (not Romney) in a larger proportion than the decideds did. That is very likely because whenever there is a race between a very well known candidate and someone less known, a voter being Undecided is usually a No vote to the well known candidate. The other unknown is how the Giuliani, McCain, Thompson, and Gingrich voters distributed across the other candidates. They may have supported Huckabee, Brownback, and Tancredo at a higher rate than they did Romney.

In looking at these results, Romney did more than a factor of 2 worse than expected as per the Combined Normalized Average (CNA). He was a big loser.

Mike Huckabee more than doubled his expected CNA and is obviously the true winner at the Straw Poll. Brownback and Tancredo had similar jumps but coming in third and fourth is about as good as kissing your sister.

Tommy Thompson barely moved up compared to the CNA thus he was clearly a loser. He has continuously said that unless he gets second place finish at the Straw Poll, he will not continue on with the campaign. Well sayonara Tommy because not only did you not do well but you finished sixth place.

Ron Paul showed a 350% improvement over his CNA at the straw poll and is clearly the second winner at the event. It is easy to show such a marked up win when you are only averaging about 2-3% in the polls but his polling average has been 50% lower than Duncan Hunter yet he wiped the floor of Hunter by a factor of 8. He had a raw net gain in percentage more than Tom Tancredo.

Ron Paul supporters should be very proud of his performance here. It may be reported as a horrendous performance because he came in fifth place but when you consider he was not even included in many polls just a few months ago and his poor polling numbers thus far have been keeping him down, 10% here is great.

Herbert Asher, a Political Science professor at Ohio State University, said that "continuing coverage of long-term trends, and background news is often neglected" by the media. The background news in this story is simple:

Call this spin or whatever else you want but this is my interpretation of the data. Leave your comments below.

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Poster Comment:

Mitt Romney bought 10,000 tickets, yet could only get 4516 to vote for him.

Mitt Romney 4516 31.5%

Ron Paul 1305 9.1%

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#1. To: robin (#0)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2007-08-13   12:07:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: ghostdogtxn (#1)

Mitt Romney bought 10,000 tickets, yet could only get 4516 to vote for him.

Mitt Romney 4516 31.5%

Ron Paul 1305 9.1%

Ron Paul for President

robin  posted on  2007-08-13   12:10:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: robin (#2)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2007-08-13   12:11:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: robin (#0)

Check out the article in today's Wall Street Journal. Ron Paul is never mentioned until the final paragraph -- and then we're told that his supporters are "fanatical."

rdwwww  posted on  2007-08-13   14:49:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: rdwwww (#4)

"insane asylum" were the words Laura Ingraham used about Ron Paul supporters during her introduction of Ron Paul. She also tried to call him a bounty hunter. She did not pick on any of the other candidates or their supporters.

Ron Paul for President

robin  posted on  2007-08-13   15:01:39 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: robin (#0)

now one must ask. what's to be done about all the improprieties????

christine  posted on  2007-08-13   15:09:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: christine (#6) (Edited)

Which improprieties, there are so many to choose from?

Ron Paul for President

robin  posted on  2007-08-13   15:17:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: robin (#0)

Google Trends

Slightly more news searches for Paul over Romney in Iowa.

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2007-08-13   15:37:27 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Eoghan (#8)

Thanks, I've never seen that before.

Lookin' good in CA!

Ron Paul google searches in CA

Ron Paul for President

robin  posted on  2007-08-13   16:12:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Eoghan, christine, wbales, Brian S, lizza76, aristeides, Zipporah, lodwick, Artisan (#8) (Edited)

With Brownback and Huckabee

Paul is in dark green here.

And in CA:

I've always liked San Luis Obispo

Ron Paul for President

robin  posted on  2007-08-13   16:15:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: robin (#10)

NY State = Socialist Losers

Google Trends Clinton v. Paul

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2007-08-13   16:44:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Eoghan (#11)

Romney barely shows in NY and Paul does quite well in CA against Hillary.

NY

CA

Ron Paul for President

robin  posted on  2007-08-13   16:53:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: Eoghan, robin, all (#11)

Thanks to Justin.tv we all saw who won in Ames.

The states must de-certify those unholy machines and return to hand counted paper ballots at the precinct level for an honest election to ever happen.

Join the Ron Paul Revolution

Lod  posted on  2007-08-13   17:10:01 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: robin (#10)

With Brownback and Huckabee

Paul is in dark green here.

gotta be amazed at the difference in media reference and search volume!!!! Goes to show that MAYBE there are people with brain cells out there!! They just happen to NOT be in the media, but then again that isn't breaking news!

Ron Paul 2008

lizza76  posted on  2007-08-13   17:46:52 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: robin, lodwick, ALL (#0)

(article)

Ron Paul showed a 350% improvement over his CNA at the straw poll and is clearly the second winner at the event. It is easy to show such a marked up win when you are only averaging about 2-3% in the polls but his polling average has been 50% lower than Duncan Hunter yet he wiped the floor of Hunter by a factor of 8. He had a raw net gain in percentage more than Tom Tancredo.

Ron Paul supporters should be very proud of his performance here. It may be reported as a horrendous performance because he came in fifth place but when you consider he was not even included in many polls just a few months ago and his poor polling numbers thus far have been keeping him down, 10% here is great.

great news
I love it
thank you for posting this Robin

palo verde  posted on  2007-08-14   1:20:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: ghostdogtxn (#3)

good post!

palo verde  posted on  2007-08-14   1:23:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: robin, all (#0)

(article) Mike Huckabee and Ron Paul Were Clear Winners, Mitt Romney Was a Loser

how interesting and perceptive
this is true
Love, Palo

palo verde  posted on  2007-08-14   1:25:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: robin (#12)

http://bhday.wordpress.com/2007/08/14/ron-paul-wins-gaston-county-straw-poll/

Ron Paul Wins Gaston County Straw Poll

Gastonia, NC — No, Gastonia is not a country in Eastern Europe. It’s actually a North Carolina town just west of Charlotte, and tonight they had a county GOP meeting that featured fantastic barbecue at Alfred & Charlie’s BBQ House as well as a presidential straw poll. These results are just in:

John McCain: 2.4% Rudy Guiliani: 4.9% Mitt Romney: 7.3% Newt Gingrich: 7.3% Mike Huckabee: 9.8% Fred Thompson: 31.7% Ron Paul: 36.6%

Given how much time and money the Ron Paul campaign has spent in North Carolina, I’m sure they’ll be pleased.

While the barbecue was excellent (and I’m not even a huge barbecue fan), the best part about the evening was the opportunity for numerous “meaningful conversations”, as referenced in my previous comments. The straw poll drew Ron Paul supporters from within and outside the county, and the articulate enthusiasm of the Ron Paul crowd seemed well received by the regular attendees. After the meeting adjourned, questions about Ron Paul and his candidacy from the “regulars” generated healthy discussion for the next hour. By the end of the evening, which lasted longer then many attendees planned, there were a lot more people prepared to answer the question, “Who is Ron Paul?”

The bottom line is if you’re a Ron Paul supporter, or just beginning to explore his candidacy from outside the Republican party, don’t be intimidated to show up at GOP functions and start talking to people. We’re all living in the same world and seeing the same problems — the easiest way to identify the need and light the path for a Constitutional federal government and individual liberty is a one-on-one conversation!

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2007-08-14   17:30:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: Eoghan, palo verde, aristeides, lizza76, Artisan, Calamity, Cynicom, Dakmar, wbales, Brian S (#18)

Go Gastonia!

Ron Paul for President

robin  posted on  2007-08-14   17:47:59 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: robin (#19)

Go Gastonia!

I second that....hopefully we can get more of that going on!!

Ron Paul 2008

lizza76  posted on  2007-08-15   10:19:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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