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Title: Group Linked to Cheney Advocates Overthrow of US Constitution; Democracy
Source: Democratic Underground
URL Source: [None]
Published: Aug 13, 2007
Author: Some DU poster....
Post Date: 2007-08-13 17:01:01 by ghostdogtxn
Keywords: None
Views: 1964
Comments: 7

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#1. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)

Barrett .416 bump

Join the Ron Paul Revolution

Lod  posted on  2007-08-13   17:23:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)

This brilliant action not only ended the personal threat to Caesar, but ended the civil chaos that was threatening anarchy in ancient Rome – thus marking the start of the ancient Roman Empire that gave peace and prosperity to the known world.

Oops. This author ignores the civil wars that followed Caesar: the war between Caesar's assassins and the Second Triumvirate, and then the civil war between Octavian (Augustus) and Mark Antony.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-08-13   17:27:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: ghostdogtxn (#0)

Dick Cheney, Vice President of the U.S. under George W. Bush, was an early member of Center's Board of Advisors (which is now called the National Security Advisory Council).

Twenty-two CSP advisers -- including additional Reagan-era remnants like Elliott Abrams, Ken deGraffenreid, Paula Dobriansky, Sven Kraemer, Robert Joseph, Robert Andrews and J.D. Crouch -- have reoccupied key positions in the national security establishment, as have other true believers of more recent vintage."

These aren't exactly the kind of guys that I would expect to take as a model Julius Caesar, a left-winger of his day, a populist, even if he struck several severe blows at the constitutional structure of the Roman Republic.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-08-13   17:28:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: aristeides (#2)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2007-08-13   17:33:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: ghostdogtxn, aristeides (#4) (Edited)

The author could have learned all that just watching the HBO "Rome" series.

Ron Paul for President

robin  posted on  2007-08-13   19:32:35 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: robin (#5)

I pledge allegiance
to Ollie North, and street gangs, and discount tobacco!

"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-08-13   19:44:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: robin (#5)

"It does not take a majority to prevail, but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brush fires of freedom in the minds of men." -- Samuel Adams (1722-1803)‡

ghostdogtxn  posted on  2007-08-14   10:13:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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