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Title: Conspiracy Theories are a form of Helplessness
Source: Memri
URL Source: http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sd&ID=SP9100
Published: Aug 13, 2007
Author: Staff
Post Date: 2007-08-13 19:51:09 by YertleTurtle
Keywords: None
Views: 850
Comments: 37

Making a public statement seldom heard in the Arab world, two Egyptian intellectuals in both government and opposition papers strongly criticize the common misperception among the Egyptian cultural and political elite that events are driven by conspiracies. In no uncertain terms, they describe the tendency to blame Israel for Arab failuresas an "evasion of reality," and the creation and endorsement of conspiracy theories[1] to explain every event as "leading to helplessness, passivity, surrender and suicide."

Conspiracy Theories are a form of Helplessness

In a November 18, 1999 article in the Egyptian weekly, Al-Ahram Al-Arabi, which is affiliated with the government, the Head of the Al-Ahram Research Centre, Dr. Abd Al-Mun'im Sa'id writes:

"Egypt Air flight 990 was explained by many conspiracy theories, all blaming the crash on the US and Israel…"

"We thought that by the end of the 20th century, the Arab mind would be open enough not to explain everything with a 'conspiracy theory.' [It is true that] those who reject the conspiracy theory do not totally exclude the possibility that a conspiracy could occur. A secret conspiracy to achieve political goals is plausible in international relations. It does not mean, however, that every historical event is a plot or that history is one big 'conspiracy…'"

"For example, the Sykes - Picot agreement [1916] was indeed a conspiracy, because it was signed secretly by Britain and France, while violating the promises made to the Arabs… The 1956 trilateral attack on Egypt, by France, the UK and Israel, was also a conspiracy."

"On the other hand, the wars of 1948 and 1967 were not conspiracies… We all know that the closure of Tiran Straits [by Egypt in May 1967] meant war. The Egyptian leadership knew it and that is why Abd Al-Nasser gave the Egyptian military command an early warning [that war may erupt] after closing the straits."

"The term 'conspiracy' must not be overused, lest confusion prevail. …The Gulf War was not a conspiracy. The international and regional decisions were made on the basis of the need to liberate Kuwait. For seven months the Arab states implored Iraq to withdraw, and the Western states threatened it. The war came [only] after all other efforts failed. Where is the conspiracy here?"

"All those 'conspiracies' exhaust the Arab mind and prevent it from seeing the truth and exploring it seriously. All the conspiracy theories about Egypt Air flight 990 involving missiles and bombs just do not hold…"

"But the biggest problem with conspiracy theories is that they keep us not only from the truth but also from confronting our faults and problems. …This way of thinking relates any given problem to external elements, and thus does not [lead] to a rational policy to confront the problem. He who speaks of ghosts [as the reason behind any given problem] can do nothing to solve it."

"Anyone, who adopts the conspiracy theory becomes so helpless that he ends up surrendering or committing suicide. The thinking of conspiracy theorists shifts between surrender and suicide, between helplessness and passivity, between negligence and failure."

Stop Blaming Israel

In the nationalist secular opposition daily, Al-Wafd, February 26, 2000, columnist Hassan Hafez criticizes another aspect of the public Arab debate: blaming Israel for all Arab faults and failures. In an article entitled: "Let us Excel in our Writing and Stop Blaming all our Problems on Israel" he writes:

"We must excel in our writing… and stop blaming all our problems on Israel. I wonder why we blame Israel for every fault in [Arab] society. This is the logic of the weak, who seek a peg on which to hang all their mistakes in order to evade a true confrontation with reality."

"An Egyptian plane crashed last November [and they say]: 'This is an operation by the Israeli 'Mossad.'' [Egyptian Muslims clash with Christian Copts in] Al-Kushekh [in Southern Egypt] …and everyone blames the Israeli 'Mossad.'"

"Then, something even stranger happens: the price for a tank of gas rises up to 15 Egyptian Pounds, and one newspaper claims that the reason for it is the export of gas to Israel! …We blame Israel for failures in marketing or for the rise of prices. This is illogical and unacceptable… I wouldn't be surprised if they say that the 'Mossad' is responsible for the social security problems in Egypt too…"

"Slow down, you who get into fits when you talk about Israel! Let us first undertake our own soul-searching. We have to grab those responsible for our failures by the collar instead of blaming Israel for all our problems like cowards… [Blaming Israel] causes us to look ridiculous before the world and it makes the small Israeli state look great. We have to be honest with ourselves before we blame others! When we blame others we are being untrue, we mock common sense and we scorn our people…"

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#1. To: YertleTurtle (#0)

It's your fault, fucker, it was you made me eat all those elephant ears last Oktoberfest!

"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-08-13   19:54:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: YertleTurtle (#0)

From Memri?? Good heavens..

http://www.infocusnews.net/content/view/15069/302/

Odd how you just dump this stuff but never ever reply to anyone.. so what's the point of replying? ~shrug~

Zipporah  posted on  2007-08-13   19:56:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: YertleTurtle (#0)

EASILY lost, on page 425, in the mass of the CIA's notorious "Family Jewels" files is a short paragraph outlining "potentially embarrassing Agency activities".

"Experiments in influencing human behaviour through the administration of mind- or personality-altering drugs to unwitting subjects."

Of all the heinous acts committed by the CIA in the name of national security, these experiments, done on the agency's behalf by prominent psychiatrists on innocent victims - including children as young as four - may be the darkest.

"We have no answer to the moral issue," former director Richard Helms infamously said when asked about the nature of the projects.

The release of the Family Jewels documents revealed the CIA handsomely funded these real-life Dr Strangeloves and engaged pharmaceutical companies to help its experiments.

The agency appealed to Big Pharma to pass on any drugs that could not be marketed because of "unfavourable side effects" to be tested on mice and monkeys.

Any drugs that passed muster would then be used, according to an internal memo, on volunteer US soldiers.

The Family Jewels files do not provide further detail into the numerous mind-control programs, such as MKULTRA, covertly propped up by the agency.

http://www.news.com.au/heraldsun/story/0,21985,21978876-663,00.html

MKULTRA was supposedly a "kooky" conspiracy.

Now we know it was real, the CIA admits to it.

Ron Paul for President

robin  posted on  2007-08-13   19:58:00 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#4. To: Zipporah (#2) (Edited)

animals dogs part 2

"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-08-13   19:58:26 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#5. To: robin (#3)

No point robin.. he wont read the links or reply .. dont waste your 'breath'

Zipporah  posted on  2007-08-13   20:00:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#6. To: Zipporah (#5)

Want me to threaten him? :)

"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-08-13   20:02:21 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#7. To: Dakmar (#6)

Hmm depends ..with what?? :P

Zipporah  posted on  2007-08-13   20:03:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#8. To: YertleTurtle (#0)

He who speaks of ghosts [as the reason behind any given problem] can do nothing to solve it."

Hmmm. That explains a lot about the so ever elusive "Al Qaeda."

Ringo Blankenship  posted on  2007-08-13   20:04:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#9. To: Zipporah (#7)

Incessant chatter?

"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-08-13   20:05:13 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#10. To: Dakmar (#9)

.. sounds like a plan .. I like it ! :P

Zipporah  posted on  2007-08-13   20:05:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#11. To: YertleTurtle (#0)

So, if you're helpless you just start making shit up right?

Let's see... I distinctly remember a group of people making a bunch of shit up about Weapons Of Mass Destruction, and because these helpless people made this shit up, a lot of regular folks died as a result.

Kind of like how a bunch of helpless fuckers sat around idle on 9-11, when they could have scrambled jets, or apprehended some illegal aliens.

The funny thing about Conspiracies, is that the word conspiracy has been redefined as a word used only to describe LIES, or STORIES, as opposed to TRUTH.

A Conspiracy, if you want a real definition, is when a group of people work in collusion with each other to do something. Whether good or evil, is entirely up to the conspirators. Kind of like JFK's assassination.

But again, if Conspiracies are created because people feel helpless, then maybe the fuckers who wrote this article, are working in collusion with other helpless fuckers who feel they need to make sure that people don't pay attention to the truth when it comes their way. Because after all, if you don't believe what the media, or the government tells you, you have some kind of mental problem, defect, or are simply helpless.

There's a special place in hell, for those who betray.

Dying for old bastards, and their old money, isn't my idea of freedom.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2007-08-13   20:08:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#12. To: Ringo Blankenship (#8)

I'm going to heaven, Lieutenant Dan.

"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-08-13   20:08:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#13. To: YertleTurtle (#0)

A couple years ago I had to buy a new weed trimmer, because I'd broken the plastic guard off the old one. I checked at the hardware store where the k-mart used to be, but they only carried brand I'd just destroyed after only like two seasons. The smaller hardware store up the block had a much better weed-trimmer, automatic line-feed and everything, no more bumping or stopping every three minutes to untangle the shit.

"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-08-13   20:15:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#14. To: Dakmar (#12)

I'm going to heaven, Lieutenant Dan.

Not with them old chattering, broken down legs you got, Bubba Gimp.

Ringo Blankenship  posted on  2007-08-13   20:16:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#15. To: YertleTurtle (#0)

Christine ought to send you a bill for wasted bandwidth.

“Yes, but is this good for Jews?"

Eoghan  posted on  2007-08-13   20:18:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#16. To: Ringo Blankenship (#14)

Momma always said life was like a box of chicken, it come with two sides and a biscuit.

I wonder whatever happened to momma?

"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-08-13   20:19:10 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#17. To: Eoghan (#15) (Edited)

Christine ought to send you a bill for wasted bandwidth.

None of us signed anything, Eoghan.

A pound of flesh smells so much sweeter anyway.

"A functioning police state needs no police." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-08-13   20:20:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#18. To: Eoghan (#15)

Christine ought to send you a bill for wasted bandwidth.

God should send you a bill for wasted brains.

“When I am the weaker, I ask you for my freedom, because that is your principle; but when I am the stronger, I take away your freedom, because that is my principle.”-Louis Veuillot

YertleTurtle  posted on  2007-08-13   20:38:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#19. To: robin, christine, Zipporah, lodwick, Jethro Tull (#3)

Now HERE'S a conspiracy...
Breaking News: All Online Data Lost After Internet Crash

Word on the street is that this f***** in Connecticut is REALLY working for the McCain campaign, and crashed the internet ON PURPOSE to stall the building momentum in Ron Paul's campaign while his boss restructures his organization.

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-08-13   21:40:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#20. To: who knows what evil (#19)

And a conspiracy is different from a rumor, like this one:

There are conflicting rumors about Fred Thompson.

Constitution Club

Fred Thompson Gay Rumors, The Latest Disgrace From the Netroots

Filed under: 2008 Presidential campaigns, Liberals, blogging — DFV the Scribe @ 11:50 pm

Andrew Sullivan was charged with starting it, Wonkette giddily ran with it,

some leftist called Suburban Guerrilla agreed with it,

lefty commentors suddenly and unexpectedly confirmed it,

then Sullivan denied it,

which Wonkette blanched at, and ….

Well decide for yourself.

Here she is with Wolfowitz:

Ron Paul for President

robin  posted on  2007-08-13   21:43:11 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#21. To: robin (#20)

Damn, Fred looks cute! Think he'd ditch Paul to go out with me?

" Junk is the ideal product... the ultimate merchandise. No sales talk necessary. The client will crawl through a sewer and beg to buy." - William S Burroughs

Dakmar  posted on  2007-08-13   21:46:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#22. To: Dakmar (#21)

I haven't seen his dance card, but I think Il Rudy is next in line.

Ron Paul for President

robin  posted on  2007-08-13   21:47:33 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#23. To: Dakmar, who knows what evil (#22) (Edited)

Is a prediction like a conspiracy?

(watch horizontal scroll at bottom)

Would an internet crash help make this happen?

Ron Paul for President

robin  posted on  2007-08-13   21:52:30 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#24. To: YertleTurtle (#0)

"But the biggest problem with conspiracy theories is that they keep us not only from the truth but also from confronting our faults and problems. …This way of thinking relates any given problem to external elements, and thus does not [lead] to a rational policy to confront the problem. He who speaks of ghosts [as the reason behind any given problem] can do nothing to solve it."

Hmmmm. External elements that keep us from confronting our faults and problems? Ghosts behind problems? You mean like the conspiracy theory that holds dirty evil mooslims did 9/11? That holds that a seemingly all powerful enemy- that is forever losing battles but never defeated- that has no shape or form- called "Al Qaeda" was behind the 9/11 attacks?

Just what "faults" about ourselves are the truthers keeping us from seeing?

I would say the "official story" has everyone looking as far away from our government as possible to "ghosts".

The Daily Burkeman1

Burkeman1  posted on  2007-08-13   22:05:51 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#25. To: TommyTheMadArtist, YertleTurtle (#11)

Let's see... I distinctly remember a group of people making a bunch of shit up about Weapons Of Mass Destruction, and because these helpless people made this shit up, a lot of regular folks died as a result.

This is a good point.

Can you not call that a conspriacy theory, all the false reports we were fed to make a case for invading Iraq? There was a conspiracy to invade Iraq, and I suspect it began long before we think.

Diana  posted on  2007-08-13   22:10:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#26. To: YertleTurtle (#0)

YertleTurtle are you really dumb enough to believe the crap you are posting here?

God is always good!
"It was an interesting day." - President Bush, recalling 9/11 [White House, 1/5/02]

RickyJ  posted on  2007-08-13   22:34:38 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#27. To: Diana (#25)

invade Iraq, and I suspect it began long before we think.

A few days ago, Ron Paul in an interview said, "the planning for the Iraq invasion began a long time ago".

No one questioned him.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-08-13   22:39:17 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#28. To: Cynicom (#27)

Not long ago I got to thinking about how during Clinton's administration all these military urban exercises were being carried out across the country, disturbing and frightening the residents. People were talking about it on Free Republic at the time, wondering what the purpose of all these urban exercises were.

I remember one of them took place either in Corpus Christi, TX or somewhere near there. A lady who lived there had a heart attack because she wasn't warned and thought the city was under attack.

Diana  posted on  2007-08-13   22:49:15 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#29. To: Diana (#28)

Not long ago I got to thinking about how during Clinton's administration all these military urban exercises were being carried out across the country,

Waco was an in your face demonstration by a government that wanted to show Americans that dissent will not be allowed.

The sick part is that NO ONE in government took them to task.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-08-13   22:53:56 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#30. To: YertleTurtle (#0)

Conspiracy Theories are a form of Helplessness

Law Enforcement Against Prohibition

"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx

IndieTX  posted on  2007-08-13   23:13:28 ET  (1 image) Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#31. To: YertleTurtle (#0)

Conspiracy Theories are a form of Helplessness

So are gun collections.

"But the biggest problem with conspiracy theories is that they keep us not only from the truth but also from confronting our faults and problems. …This way of thinking relates any given problem to external elements, and thus does not [lead] to a rational policy to confront the problem. He who speaks of ghosts [as the reason behind any given problem] can do nothing to solve it."

Conspiracy theories are to the psychology of mass behavior what theories of mind are to the psychology of individuals. Perhaps not ontologically correct, and certainly not necessary, but conspiracy theory can be as useful of a shorthand as the notion of purpose is when describing the behavior of individuals.

By definition, a behaviorist cannot be a conspiracy theorist.

However, a behaviorist with survival and power as his purpose(!) could certainly find descriptions in terms of conspiracy to be quite useful, especially in rallying support or opposition, and identifying enemies.

Creatures out of the Dark Ages have come marching into the present, and if they are ghosts they are at any rate ghosts which need a strong magic to lay them.

Bi-I-Bi, Bi-O-Bo, Bi-I-Biddi-Bi Bi-O-Bo, Bi-Bo-Bi-Bo-Bi-Bo-Bi-Bo-Bi Boop-Boo-Waa

The Don Juans had a get together, the gathering was large
But things got duller than the weather 'till Donna Wood took charge
She went to the piano, and took her D (for Donna)
putting it to music in a major key

Tauzero  posted on  2007-08-14   1:16:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#32. To: Cynicom (#29) (Edited)

Waco was an in your face demonstration by a government that wanted to show Americans that dissent will not be allowed.

It sure did put a halt to the growing militia movement of that time.

Diana  posted on  2007-08-14   5:28:46 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#33. To: YertleTurtle (#0)

"Anyone, who adopts the conspiracy theory becomes so helpless that he ends up surrendering or committing suicide. The thinking of conspiracy theorists shifts between surrender and suicide, between helplessness and passivity, between negligence and failure."

I suppose this gives a clue into the thinking of one who fears/hates "conspiracy theories".

To think a conspiracy happened does not take a person's power away. It does not make one helpless and there is nothing to fear knowing these things happen from time to time.

Diana  posted on  2007-08-14   5:36:40 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#34. To: Diana (#33)

To think a conspiracy happened does not take a person's power away.

While I have no doubt some conspiracies do exist -- such as FDR scheming to get us into WWII, which many people understood at that time -- when people truly believe in remote-controlled airplanes, explosives in towers, hundreds if not thousands of geniuses without conscience, unlimited funds, access to technology no one else has, then pull off the most complex plot in the history of the world, blame it on others, disappear without a trace, never have a regret, not one them finds Jesus or worries about their superiors killing them to keep them quiet...this is a sign of a society going backward, just like those Muslims who believe Jews are behind everything.

If the Truthers could prove their point, and have Bush and his co-conspirators brought to justice, they'd be happy for a week. Then things would go back to normal, and the next time something happened they'd again start screaming "conspiracy" and looking around for someone else to sacrifice to their delusions.

"Two people can keep a secret, if one of them is dead."

“When I am the weaker, I ask you for my freedom, because that is your principle; but when I am the stronger, I take away your freedom, because that is my principle.”-Louis Veuillot

YertleTurtle  posted on  2007-08-14   7:47:32 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#35. To: YertleTurtle (#34)

If the Truthers could prove their point, and have Bush and his co-conspirators brought to justice, they'd be happy for a week. Then things would go back to normal, and the next time something happened they'd again start screaming "conspiracy" and looking around for someone else to sacrifice to their delusions.

For some "truthers" and other conspiracy mongers, like Alex Jones, keeping their wacky theories unresolved is a much more profitable endevour.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-14   9:35:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#36. To: Diana (#25)

Yep, there were meetings held before Bush Junior took office.

What floors me, is the fact that nobody seems to be outraged about what their government is doing, and if they are, they're really not talking truthfully, they're parroting the lies put out there as disinformation.

Which is why they're so easily marginalized by the media, because those fuckers couldn't stare Truth in the face if Truth were poking them in the fucking eyes.

Dying for old bastards, and their old money, isn't my idea of freedom.

TommyTheMadArtist  posted on  2007-08-14   14:48:04 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#37. To: Mister Clean (#35)

For some "truthers" and other conspiracy mongers, like Alex Jones, keeping their wacky theories unresolved is a much more profitable endevour.

I've come to the conclusion that if the money dried up, people like Jones, Jesse Jackson, Al Sharpton and Jimmy Swaggart would shut their yaps.

I've also come to the conclusion that if 9-11 had happened on Clinton's watch, none of the current Truthers would be Truthers. There would be a Truther movement, but it would be full of people who hate Clinton.

The Truther movement is not based on the search for the truth, but on the hate they have for certain politicians.

“When I am the weaker, I ask you for my freedom, because that is your principle; but when I am the stronger, I take away your freedom, because that is my principle.”-Louis Veuillot

YertleTurtle  posted on  2007-08-14   21:51:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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