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Title: Ron Paul May be Only Hope of Avoiding Draft
Source: Christopher Costigan's website
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Published: Aug 12, 2007
Author: Jennifer Reynolds
Post Date: 2007-08-13 22:42:28 by scrapper2
Keywords: draft, Ron Paul
Views: 1707
Comments: 93

Special contributor Jennifer Reynolds suggests that 2008 US Presidential candidate Ron Paul may be the only hope of avoiding a draft. The subject of a draft came into play this week.

A top U.S. military officer in charge of co-ordinating the U.S. war effort in Iraq said yesterday that it makes sense to consider a return of the draft to meet the U.S. military's needs. Lieutenant-General Douglas Lute, said the all-volunteer military is serving "exceedingly well" and the administration has not decided a draft is needed.

But in an interview with National Public Radio, he said, "I think it makes sense to certainly consider it, and I can tell you, this has always been an option on the table."

Does that sound scary? Do you think it is an over reaction?

General Lute, the new War Czar, announced today, August 10, 2007:

"Frequent tours for U.S. forces in Iraq and Afghanistan have stressed the all-volunteer force and made it worth considering a return to a military draft, President Bush's new war adviser said Friday."I think it makes sense to certainly consider it," Army Lt. Gen. Douglas Lute said in an interview with National Public Radio's "All Things Considered."

Ron Paul warned us all of this possibility back in November but it never made the headlines. In fact, I am sure most of you never even knew he said it. Once again, Ron Paul has proved to be the most prescient candidate running for President. More importantly, he wants to protect your children and if you are under thirty: he wants to protect your LIFE. Here is what Dr. Paul wrote on November 27, 2006:

"Once again the possibility of reinstating a military draft is being discussed in Washington, and while the idea seems remote it is not unthinkable. Democratic Congressman Charles Rangel of New York, soon to be a powerful committee chair, has openly called for reinstating the Selective Service System. Retired Army General Barry McCaffrey claims that our ground forces in both Afghanistan and Iraq are stretched far too thin, and desperately need reinforcements. Meanwhile, other political and military leaders suggest that several hundred thousand additional troops might be needed simply to restore some semblance of order in Iraq. We are nearing the point where a choice will have to be made: either decrease our troop commitments in Iraq and Afghanistan significantly, or produce thousands of new military recruits quickly. So a discussion of military conscription is not purely academic.

Yet the Department of Defense remains steadfastly opposed to a draft. A Pentagon report stated that draft registration could be eliminated "with no effect on military mobilization and no measurable effect on military recruitment." Most military experts believe a draft would actually impair military readiness, despite the increase in raw manpower, because of training and morale problems.

So why is the idea of a draft even considered? One answer is that our military forces are spread far too thin, engaged in conflicts around the globe that are none of our business. With hundreds of thousands of troops stationed in literally hundreds of foreign nations, we simply don't have enough soldiers to invade and occupy every country labeled a threat or deemed ripe for regime change. Given the choice, many in Congress would rather draft more young bodies than rethink our role as world policeman and bring some of our troops home.

Military needs aside, some politicians simply love the thought of mandatory service to the federal government. The political right favors sending young people to fight in aggressive wars like Iraq. The political left longs to send young people into harm's way to save the world in places like Darfur. But both sides share the same belief that citizens should serve the needs of the state-- a belief our founders clearly rejected in the Declaration of Independence.

To many politicians, the American government is America. This is why, on a crude level, the draft appeals to patriotic fervor. Compulsory national service, whether in the form of military conscription or make-work programs like AmeriCorps, still sells on Capitol Hill. Conscription is wrongly associated with patriotism, when really it represents collectivism and involuntary servitude.

I believe wholeheartedly that an all-volunteer military is not only sufficient for national defense, but also preferable. It is time to abolish the Selective Service System and resign military conscription to the dustbin of American history. Five hundred million dollars have been wasted on Selective Service since 1979, money that could have been returned to taxpayers or spent to improve the lives of our nation's veterans.

Ronald Reagan said it best: "The most fundamental objection to draft registration is moral." The notion of involuntary servitude, in whatever form, is simply incompatible with a free society."

To the students reading this out there: If you are old enough to vote, vote for Ron Paul. To the parents of children under 30, beat your kids to the polls!!! To the rest of the country: WAKE UP!!!!!! Politics may be boring but it is VITAL that you know what is going on. I just barely caught this message from Douglas Lute on a ten second mention on a major news network. Your very lives are now at stake.

This is no longer a time in history that you can stay asleep and let others dictate who will be your choice for President. You must pay attention now. Learn about Ron Paul. He has been warning all of you about this for almost a year. Ron Paul is and has always been AGAINST THE DRAFT. Please go to that link. Read the articles.

Ron Paul will protect your children and if you are of draft age, he will protect you too. It is just too bad that 16 year olds cannot vote, because this is the most important Presidential election in their lives as well. Keep in mind, women serve in the military too. It is very possible a draft would include women as well as men. Or should I say girls as well as boys. At 18, you should be worrying about what to wear to the prom, not whether you will be taken against your will and put in a country where people are shooting at you.

Ok, so the draft is bad, but why should I support Ron Paul? Because he has written article upon article against the draft and wrote that we need to abolish the Selective Service Service. You can trust that people will behave in the future the way they have behaved in the past.

On a positive note, Ron Paul strongly exceeded expectations this weekend in the non-binding Iowa Straw Poll. Mitt Romney was the expected winner due to the fact that he literally bussed Iowans to Ames from all over the state and paid the purchase price for every single supporter. Tickets cost $35 each. Romney had also spent nearly a month canvassing the state and so it was no surprise that he won. But Ron Paul proved to his critics that he could turn Internet support into real votes. The mainstream media had him polling around one or two percent, so imagine everyone's surprise when Ron Paul tripled that figure and took 9% of the votes. Dr. Paul had only been campaigning in Iowa for the past week due to his heavy schedule in Congress.

In a surprising twist of events, Ron Paul supporters proved to be a little prescient too. The day before the Straw Poll they sought an injunction to stop the event over the use of Diebold Election Systems machines that the group claimed to have fundamental weaknesses and insisted that paper backup ballots be used as well. The injunction was not granted, but it is a good thing they had the back-up ballots because a few of the machines did fail and the paper ballots had to counted by hand delaying the results for hours. It proves, it is always prudent to stay vigilant over the democratic process.

Back to the real issue at hand. It is great that Ron Paul did so well in the Straw Poll, but our very lives are on the line. This weekend I could find five newscasters who talked about a story about a baby pig who fell out of truck onto the highway, but the fact that the draft is being reconsidered deserved only a ten second mention. Has the world gone insane? Now, more than ever, Ron Paul's supporters are needed not just to get their man elected, but to protect us all from conscription. The good news is they just may be able to do it. I checked a month or two ago and Ron Paul had around 16,000 members in http://Meetup.com a site that gets people together of like interests to promote or discuss a cause. As of right now he has 32,632 members in 698 groups. I am sure that number will change by the time you click on it.

If we continue this war we will need more troops and they will need to be drafted. Ron Paul is the only Republican who has promised to end this war now. And unlike many leading Democrats, Ron Paul will end it now and not leave a soldier behind.


Poster Comment:

And in other news today, the Pentagon announced that there was no consideration - none, nada, zero - of a draft and that War Czar Lute's ill considered remarks on NPR were an example of an old geezer talking through his hat and letting the cat out of the bag...

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#54. To: aristeides (#52)

Well, if that war occurs, I don't think it will be funny at all.

What's funny is the idea that it could happen.

The US couldn't defeat Russia or China individually let alone if they teamed up.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-14   11:15:58 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#55. To: robin (#51)

And the maybe the not so young.

Good point.

The results of the Federal Human Capital Surveys for the Selective Service System (SSS) provide a snapshot of the human capital environment at the SSS in June 2006. The 2006 survey was sponsored by the Office of Personnel Management (OPM). 89 of Agency's 139 employees participated in the study.

Human Capital? Pretty blatant isn't it? The only more fitting word for it would be slaves.

RidinShotgun  posted on  2007-08-14   11:16:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#56. To: aristeides (#53)

Are you familiar with the phrase "trial balloon"?

Correct.

Lute was SENT, he is not meddling in domestic policy on his own.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-08-14   11:17:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#57. To: aristeides (#53)

Are you familiar with the phrase "trial balloon"?

If that's what it was I'd say it didn't go very high.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-14   11:17:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#58. To: Mister Clean (#54)

The US couldn't defeat Russia or China individually let alone if they teamed up.

We also appear unable to defeat Iraq, but that didn't stop us from invading that country.

Hitler was probably unable to defeat the British Empire, the USSR, and the USA all allied against him. Japan was probably unable to defeat the USA, especially when it was allied with the British Empire and China.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-08-14   11:23:25 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#59. To: aristeides (#58)

We also appear unable to defeat Iraq, but that didn't stop us from invading that country.

The goal wasn't to defeat the country but overthrow the Saddam government in contrast to the US approach in WWII.

But that really has nothing to do with the absurd idea of a war with Russia and/ or China.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-14   11:27:12 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#60. To: Mister Clean (#59)

But that really has nothing to do with the absurd idea of a war with Russia and/ or China.

Absurd????

I suggest this government disagrees with you.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-08-14   11:30:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#61. To: Cynicom (#60)

I suggest this government disagrees with you.

Such a suggestion would be baseless.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-14   11:35:05 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#62. To: aristeides (#52)

Kristol, of course, is stark, raving, rabidly-mad.

Join the Ron Paul Revolution

Lod  posted on  2007-08-14   11:39:20 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#63. To: Mister Clean (#61)

Such a suggestion would be baseless.

Really????

Just perhaps you do NOT keep up on current affairs to the extent you should.

For example, I hope you did take note that the Russians have been nosing around Guam lately. If you did read or hear of such, did it occur to you to consider why they would be interested in Guam??

Cynicom  posted on  2007-08-14   11:41:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#64. To: lodwick (#62)

Kristol, of course, is stark, raving, rabidly-mad.

His parents were not exactly parental examples of decorum.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-08-14   11:43:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#65. To: Cynicom (#63)

For example, I hope you did take note that the Russians have been nosing around Guam lately. If you did read or hear of such, did it occur to you to consider why they would be interested in Guam??

And that proves that the US government believes war with Russia is a possibility?

Uh, no.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-14   11:44:18 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#66. To: Mister Clean (#65)

Uh, no.

Does that mean the Russians agree with your premise???

If so, why the nosing around. To what should we attribute their interest?

Cynicom  posted on  2007-08-14   11:46:23 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#67. To: Cynicom (#66)

To what should we attribute their interest?

I don't know about you, but I mind my own business.

The Russians don't bother me or threaten me.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-14   11:50:44 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#68. To: Mister Clean (#67)

I don't know about you, but I mind my own business.

The Russians don't bother me or threaten me.

We were discussing a possible war threat with China/Russia.

I would be interested in your analysis as to why Russia is snooping around Guam.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-08-14   11:58:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#69. To: Cynicom (#68)

I would be interested in your analysis as to why Russia is snooping around Guam.

It's not my concern.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-14   12:02:03 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#70. To: Mister Clean (#69)

It's not my concern.

Burying ones head in the sand enlightens them not.

Don't you have the slightest interest?? It just possibly COULD affect you directly in the future.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-08-14   12:05:37 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#71. To: Cynicom (#1)

Young Americans have a choice, Ron Paul or the draft.

Great bumper sticker...

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-08-14   12:07:47 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#72. To: Cynicom (#70)

Don't you have the slightest interest??

I have absolutely no fear of a conflict with Russia.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-14   12:08:07 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#73. To: Mister Clean (#3) (Edited)

It didn't make headlines because it wasn't news just like all of the other "warnings" of a new draft.

The doom & gloom crowd who have been predicting a draft for several years now have been and will likely continue to be WRONG.

It did not make headlines last November because gubmint did not want it so.

It made headlines now because gubmint wanted to put out a trial balloon and what better place to start than on NPR as opposed to Good Morning America.

The ghoulish DC warpigs evidently got their answer, albeit not one that their blood thirsty minds wanted.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-08-14   12:10:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#74. To: Mister Clean (#72)

I have absolutely no fear of a conflict with Russia.

And neither do I because after all, Russia poses no threat to Israel.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-08-14   12:11:22 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#75. To: scrapper2 (#74)

Russia poses no threat to Israel.

I wouldn't be so sure about that. Russia is already a quasi-ally of Iran.

To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.

aristeides  posted on  2007-08-14   12:12:34 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#76. To: Mister Clean (#72)

I have absolutely no fear of a conflict with Russia.

And no twinge of interest as to why they are snooping??

Just let it pass you by without the slightest inclination to wonder if there might be some significance for this country, where you live?

Would you consider it dereliction of duty if the government/military also dismissed it out of hand?

Cynicom  posted on  2007-08-14   12:14:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#77. To: who knows what evil (#71) (Edited)

Young Americans have a choice, Ron Paul or the draft.

Great bumper sticker...

You got that right - start putting up flyers at college Student Union buildings across America, and Ron Paul would have an excellent turn-out vote of the under 30's. The R/D election result planners wouldn't know what hit them.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-08-14   12:14:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#78. To: scrapper2 (#77)

You got that right - start hitting putting up flyers at Student Union buildings across America, and Ron Paul would have an excellent turn-out vote of the under 30's.

That's funny...I was just thinking how easy this would be to print off as a flier for distribution on my local college campus...

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-08-14   12:16:28 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#79. To: who knows what evil (#71)

Young Americans have a choice, Ron Paul or the draft.

Great bumper sticker

True...

There is one huge problem for Paul, and that is that a majority of voters are sheep.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-08-14   12:26:08 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#80. To: Cynicom (#79)

There is one huge problem for Paul, and that is that a majority of voters are sheep.

Agreed...but there is a vast amount of untapped voters out there on our college campuses...did you see any of the video from the Iowa straw poll? Multiply that by a couple of thousand college campi...

Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org

who knows what evil  posted on  2007-08-14   12:28:09 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#81. To: aristeides (#75)

scrapper: Russia poses no threat to Israel.

aristeides: I wouldn't be so sure about that. Russia is already a quasi-ally of Iran.

No chance that there'd be a conflict with Russia.

For one thing, Russia has huge amounts of oil and gas. Europe would not allow the US to fight Russia for fear their power and heating and petro would die.

Secondly, Izzy itself has been trying to suck up to Russia as its new patron and it would never allow a future money machine get attacked. Izzy is a dead weight albatross for America but I give that nation credit - Izzy is a smart and calculating dead weight albatross.

As long as Iran hides in the shadow of Russia and China, Iran stays safe. Iran just needs to be consistent and predictable with its new found friends and all Israel can do is sit and growl and threaten, because Israel needs to please the same 2 benefactors to assure its financial future. America is so yesterday to Israel.

scrapper2  posted on  2007-08-14   12:28:36 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#82. To: who knows what evil (#80)

did you see any of the video from the Iowa straw poll?

Yes I saw some of it.

The sheep as a flock are mostly undisturbed and uninterested. On election day they will do their ONLY duty by casting a ballot for one of two people hand picked by the governing elite.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-08-14   12:35:50 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#83. To: scrapper2 (#74)

And neither do I because after all, Russia poses no threat to Israel.

They pose no threat to the US either.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-14   16:35:24 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#84. To: Cynicom (#76)

And no twinge of interest as to why they are snooping??

Nope.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-14   16:35:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#85. To: Mister Clean (#84)

Nope.

What can I say.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-08-14   18:11:29 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#86. To: Cynicom (#85)

What can I say.

Not much, I guess.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-14   20:54:57 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#87. To: Mister Clean (#86)

Not much, I guess.

You have any particular interest?

astronomy? star gazing, history, whatever?

Cynicom  posted on  2007-08-14   20:57:41 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#88. To: Cynicom (#87)

You have any particular interest?

astronomy? star gazing, history, whatever?

I'm very interested in profiting from the process of globalization.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-14   21:08:42 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#89. To: Mister Clean (#88)

I'm very interested in profiting from the process of globalization.

If you tell me you have found some way to take it with you, I will think you are a totally soulless person.

I have a family member that has millions, he was whining to me that he was worried that his children would spend his money and wanted my advice.

Being the kind hearted person I am, I told him the good news. Namely that when he was gone I would help his children spend his money. I thought that was worth a laff but he didnt. Bet you wont either.

Cynicom  posted on  2007-08-14   21:18:45 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#90. To: Mister Clean (#48)

People in the administration huff & puff about Iran a lot.

They don't do much haven't done much YET, however.

99 percent of lawyers give the rest a bad name.
Steven Wright

innieway  posted on  2007-08-15   9:36:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#91. To: lodwick, Robin, lurkers, anyone interested in protecting their privacy (#39)

The best advice I've seen, if all else fails, is to simply refuse to step forward and take the oath. Do not volunteer yourself for involuntary servitude.

The REAL problem is that children aren't EDUCATED in our communistic Public Skool System.

If they were, they'd know their rights, and how to apply them. That's the best advice I have for ANYONE!!!

For example, they'd KNOW how to fill out the "draft form" when they turn 18. It goes something like this:

Name: Joe Graduate
Social Security Number: None - OR Objection, 4th Amendment (whichever applies)
Address: Objection, 4th Amendment
Phone: Objection, 4th Amendment
Sex: Objection, 4th Amendment
Date of Birth: Objection, 1st Amendment
How did you first learn about registration: Objection, 5th Amendment

In fact, this is how to fill out ANY REQUIRED gov form, or for that matter even a form at your doctor's office. I say ANY because upon closer inspection, you'll find out that very few ARE actually required of the average Joe Six Pack. Like the census - the law requires that a census be taken, which applies to the census takers NOT that the "citizen" participate in giving out the info. In fact there is even an exemption box on the form, but few people see it or care to decline. But if you WANT to fill it out anyhow without "giving any info", simply know and apply your rights...

In the example I cited above on the draft, I cited 1st Amendment on the birth date. That is because God didn't lay out my birthday as one of his Holy Days (holiday), so I don't celebrate birthdays (not even Jesus'). The 4th Amendment guarantees us the right to be secure in our persons, papers, properties, and effects. My address and other "personal" info fall under this category. And the 5th Amendment guarantees our right not to be a witness against ourselves; this applies to anything which may be used in a court of law against us...

99 percent of lawyers give the rest a bad name.
Steven Wright

innieway  posted on  2007-08-15   10:15:55 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#92. To: innieway (#90)

They don't do much haven't done much YET, however.

I bet that the Chinese sat down with Bush & Cheney and told them they are not permitted to attack Iran.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-15   11:35:06 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#93. To: innieway (#91)

In the example I cited above on the draft, I cited 1st Amendment on the birth date. That is because God didn't lay out my birthday as one of his Holy Days (holiday), so I don't celebrate birthdays (not even Jesus'). The 4th Amendment guarantees us the right to be secure in our persons, papers, properties, and effects. My address and other "personal" info fall under this category. And the 5th Amendment guarantees our right not to be a witness against ourselves; this applies to anything which may be used in a court of law against us...

Good stuff - thanks.

And you're correct about most forms having an exempt or opt-out page...that they generally won't show you unless you ask for it.

Join the Ron Paul Revolution

Lod  posted on  2007-08-15   12:09:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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