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Title: US citizen
Source: http://www.state-citizen.org/
URL Source: http://www.state-citizen.org/
Published: Aug 15, 2007
Author: Richard McDonald
Post Date: 2007-08-15 07:42:06 by 2cb
Keywords: patriot, license, citizen
Views: 114
Comments: 3

Learn something useful - we all know all the corrupt and insane activities going on - it's time to RESIST - and here is some good starting material for those that don't even know what a federal US citizen is ...

Richard James, McDonald is a state Citizen of California. Mr. McDonald is a former law enforcement officer who stumbled across this information quite by accident but felt compelled to investigate the issues related to law enforcement and status. Based on results of Mr. McDonald's research, he took the extraordinary step of renouncing his "US citizenship", (the reasons why should become clear to the reader as they review the information posted here), by reclaiming his "birth rights" and original political status, which by the way, is exactly the same as the Founding Fathers who were state Citizens, not "US citizens".

Unbeknownst to most people, the class termed "US citizen" did not exist as a political status until 1866. It was a class and "political status" created for the newly freed slaves and did not apply to the people inhabiting the states of the union who were at that time state Citizens.

"On the other hand, there is a significant historical fact in all of this. Clearly, one of the purposes of the 13th and 14th Amendments and of the 1866 act and of section 1982 was to give the Negro citizenship. . ." Jones v. Alfred H. Mayer Co. (1967), 379 F.2d 33, 43.

"The object of the 14th Amendment, as is well known, was to confer upon the colored race the right of citizenship." United States v. Wong Kim Ark, 169 U. S. 649, 692.

Mr. McDonald is not a racist or bigot but merely wishes that the reader understands that the class of people identified as "US citizens" were the NEWLY FREED SLAVES ONLY as was the intent of the drafters of the so-called 14th Amendment. After their being recognized as people rather than "animate property", they needed to be brought within the "naturalization process" and afforded some rights. As anyone well knows, property has no rights. Mr. McDonald has been educating people about these issues for over 25 years.

"We have in our political system a government of the United States and a government of each of the several States. Each one of these governments is distinct from the others, and each has citizens of it's own..." United States v. Cruikshank, 92 U.S. 542 (1875)

"...he was not a citizen of the United States, he was a citizen and voter of the State,..." "One may be a citizen of a State and yet not a citizen of the United States". McDonel v. The State, 90 Ind. 320 (1883)

"That there is a citizenship of the United States and citizenship of a state,..." Tashiro v. Jordan, 201 Cal. 236 (1927)

"A citizen of the United States is a citizen of the federal government ..." Kitchens v. Steele, 112 F.Supp 383

The Importance Of state Citizenship

Why is this important? Because the visitor should know that the rules that apply to "US citizens" may be different that the rules that apply to "state Citizens", and that the rights of one are not the same as the other. For example, the "state Citizen" is NOT required to have a driver license to legally use their car to go to the store to buy food or to attend their place of worship, the "US citizen" is required to have a license to do the same thing.

"The governments of the United States and of each state of the several states are distinct from one another. The rights of a citizen under one may be quite different from those which he has under the other". Colgate v. Harvey, 296 U.S. 404; 56 S.Ct. 252 (1935)

"There is a difference between privileges and immunities belonging to the citizens of the United States as such, and those belonging to the citizens of each state as such". Ruhstrat v. People, 57 N.E. 41 (1900)

"The rights and privileges, and immunities which the fourteenth constitutional amendment and Rev. St. section 1979 [U.S. Comp. St. 1901, p. 1262], for its enforcement, were designated to protect, are such as belonging to citizens of the United States as such, and not as citizens of a state". Wadleigh v. Newhall 136 F. 941 (1905)

Mr. McDonald educates people about the reasons why this is the so and what they can do to reclaim their birth rights which are protected by the State Constitution.

"...rights of national citizenship as distinct from the fundamental or natural rights inherent in state citizenship". Madden v. Kentucky, 309 U.S. 83: 84 L.Ed. 590 (1940)

"State Citizenship is a vested substantial property right, and the State has no power to divest or impair these rights." Favot v. Kingsbury, (1929) 98 Cal. App. 284, 276 P. 1083.

SUI JURIS. One who has all the rights to which a freemen is entitled; one who is not under the power of another, as a slave, a minor, and the like. 2. To make a valid contract, a person must, in general, be sui juris. Every one of full age is presumed to be sui juris. Bouvier's Law Dictionary, 1856

INGENUI, civ. law. Those freemen who were born free. Vicat, vocab. 2. They were a class of freemen, distinguished from those who, born slaves, had afterwards legally obtained their freedom the latter were called at various periods, sometimes liberti, sometimes libertini. An unjust or illegal servitude did not prevent a man from being ingenuus. Bouvier's Law Dictionary, 1856

JURIS ET DE JURE. A phrase employed to denote conclusive presumptions of law, which cannot be rebutted by evidence. The words signify of law and from law. Best on Presumption, Sec. 17. Bouvier's Law Dictionary, 1856

What the visitor will find here is little known legal history about the people of this country that is not taught in the public schools nor for that matter in law school as part of the general curriculum.

MISSION STATEMENT

Mr. McDonald is dedicated to educating the visitor about their secured rights and how to defend them effectively by focusing on the common "traffic ticket". No one likes being pulled over and being issued a NOTICE TO APPEAR for some alleged violation of the Vehicle Code. The knowledge one has regarding "how to" deal with the common "traffic ticket" will provide the accused with all the basic legal knowledge to deal with virtually any legal matter, this is because elements of law are generally the same no matter what the allegation.

Sublata causa tollitur effectus. Remove the cause and the effect will cease. 2 Bl. Com. 203.

Sublato fundamento cadit opus. Remove the foundation, the structure or work fall.

"A free people [claim] their rights as derived from the laws of nature, and not as the gift of their chief magistrate." Thomas Jefferson: Rights of British America, 1774. ME 1:209, Papers 1:134

"Natural rights [are] the objects for the protection of which society is formed and municipal laws established." Thomas Jefferson to James Monroe, 1797. ME 9:422

The fact the restraint on Ms. Spicer's liberty was minimal does not make the restraint a reasonable one. The Fourth Amendment applies to all seizures of the person including those consuming no more than a minute. (United States v. Brignoni-Ponce, supra, 422 U.S. at pp. 879-880 [45 L.Ed.2d at pp. 615-616].) PEOPLE v. SPICER, 157 Cal.App.3d 213

"The United States and the State of California are two separate sovereignties, each dominant in its own sphere." Redding v. Los Angeles (1947), 81 C.A.2d 888, 185 P.2d 430.

"That there is a citizenship of the United States and citizenship of a state,..." Tashiro v. Jordan, 201 Cal. 236 (1927)

Thus in [13 Cal.3d 551] determining that California citizens are entitled to greater protection under the California Constitution against unreasonable searches and seizures than that required by the United States Constitution, we are embarking on no revolutionary course. Rather we are simply reaffirming a basic principle of federalism -- that the nation as a whole is composed of distinct geographical and political entities bound together by a fundamental federal law but nonetheless independently responsible for safeguarding the rights of their citizens.

WHO IS REQUIRED TO HAVE A DRIVER LICENSE?

"As indicated by it title, the act was designed to impose a license tax upon those engaged in the business of operating motor vehicles upon the public highways for the transportation of persons or property for compensation. Section 1 defines certain words and phrases employed in the act. The term 'operator' is declared generally to include all persons, firms, associations, and corporations who operate motor vehicles upon any public highway in the state and thereby engage in the transportation of persons or property for hire or compensation.

"Section 2 of the act provides: 'Each operator of a motor vehicle within this state who transports or desires to transport for compensation or hire persons or property upon or over any public highway within this state shall apply to and secure from the board of equalization of the State of California a license to operate each and all of the motor vehicles which such operator desires to operate or which such operator from time to time may operate.'

It is provided in Section 7 that any operator using the public highways of the state for the transportation of persons or property for hire, either as a public or private carrier without first obtaining the license ... is guilty of a misdemeanor ..." Bacon Service Corporation v. Huss (1926) 199 Cal. 21, 26 - 27. "The activity licensed by state DMVs and in connection with which individuals must submit personal information to the DMV - the operation of motor vehicles - is itself integrally related to interstate commerce". Seth Waxman, Solicitor General U.S. Department of Justice BRIEF FOR THE PETITIONERS Reno v. Condon, No. 98-1464, decided January 12, 2000 Supreme Court of the United States

Sec. 31. Definitions

When used in this chapter the term -

''Motor vehicle'' means every description of carriage or other contrivance propelled or drawn by mechanical power and used for commercial purposes on the highways in the transportation of passengers, passengers and property, or property or cargo;

The privileges and immunities clause of the Fourteenth Amendment protects very few rights because it neither incorporates any of the Bill of Rights nor protects all rights of individual citizens. See Slaughter-House Cases, 83 U.S. (16 Wall.) 36, 21 L.Ed. 394 (1873). Instead, this provision protects only those rights peculiar to being a citizen of the federal government; it does not protect those rights which relate to state citizenship. Jones v. Temmer, 829 Fed. Supp. 1226 (1993)

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#1. To: 2cb (#0)

The knowledge one has regarding "how to" deal with the common "traffic ticket" will provide the accused with all the basic legal knowledge to deal with virtually any legal matter, this is because elements of law are generally the same no matter what the allegation.

Very excellent post! Thanks.

I was once told that a traffic ticket is a contract that can be sent to the court marked "rejected" prior to the traffic court date. I think that only applies if one doesn't have a driver's license, though, which is how we become signatories to the MVD contract and can be held liable to its terms.

RidinShotgun  posted on  2007-08-15   9:38:16 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#2. To: 2cb, RidinShotgun, David Alan Carmichael (#0)

WHO IS REQUIRED TO HAVE A DRIVER LICENSE?

"As indicated by it title, the act was designed to impose a license tax upon those engaged in the business of operating motor vehicles upon the public highways for the transportation of persons or property for compensation. Section 1 defines certain words and phrases employed in the act. The term 'operator' is declared generally to include all persons, firms, associations, and corporations who operate motor vehicles upon any public highway in the state and thereby engage in the transportation of persons or property for hire or compensation.

"Section 2 of the act provides: 'Each operator of a motor vehicle within this state who transports or desires to transport for compensation or hire persons or property upon or over any public highway within this state shall apply to and secure from the board of equalization of the State of California a license to operate each and all of the motor vehicles which such operator desires to operate or which such operator from time to time may operate.'

It is provided in Section 7 that any operator using the public highways of the state for the transportation of persons or property for hire, either as a public or private carrier without first obtaining the license ... is guilty of a misdemeanor ..." Bacon Service Corporation v. Huss (1926) 199 Cal. 21, 26 - 27. "The activity licensed by state DMVs and in connection with which individuals must submit personal information to the DMV - the operation of motor vehicles - is itself integrally related to interstate commerce". Seth Waxman, Solicitor General U.S. Department of Justice BRIEF FOR THE PETITIONERS Reno v. Condon, No. 98-1464, decided January 12, 2000 Supreme Court of the United States

Sec. 31. Definitions

When used in this chapter the term -

''Motor vehicle'' means every description of carriage or other contrivance propelled or drawn by mechanical power and used for commercial purposes on the highways in the transportation of passengers, passengers and property, or property or cargo;

The privileges and immunities clause of the Fourteenth Amendment protects very few rights because it neither incorporates any of the Bill of Rights nor protects all rights of individual citizens. See Slaughter-House Cases, 83 U.S. (16 Wall.) 36, 21 L.Ed. 394 (1873). Instead, this provision protects only those rights peculiar to being a citizen of the federal government; it does not protect those rights which relate to state citizenship. Jones v. Temmer, 829 Fed. Supp. 1226 (1993)

great article...I keep trying to educate myself on this subject...and find myself getting frustrated by the insanity of it all.

I wonder if we could get David to comment on this.

Carmichael [Driver License] contest with Virginia

http://www.christianliberty.org/virginia

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"Articles from the Ekklesia News Issue 9 published in 1998

The 666 Section

May the LORD God bless you all. draconian

The spirit of Nimrod, a mighty provider instead of the LORD, is ready to enumerate his people, speaking like a dragon.......

see the "HEALTH INSURANCE PORTABILITY AND ACCOUNTABILITY ACT OF 1996," also known as Public Law 104-191 - 104th Congress, An Act."

It begins, "To amend the Internal Revenue Code of 1986 to improve portability and continuity of health insurance coverage in the group and individual markets, to combat waste, fraud, and abuse in health insurance and health care delivery, to promote the use of medical savings accounts, to improve access to long-term care services and coverage, to simplify the administration of health insurance, [sounds pretty good so far, don't it?] and for other purposes. (NOTE: Aug. 21, 1996 - (H.R. 3103))" There it is again, other purposes. So, what do they mean other purposes?

Way down at the bottom of this book size bill is section 511 through 513 that provides for the forfeiture of property of anyone who losses his/her United States Citizenship (within the meaning of section 877 of the Internal Revenue Code of 1986). That meaning would include every Sovereign citizen, citizen of the kingdom of Heaven or true follower of Christ who won't bow down as a slave to the New World Order. Of course this law can go back 10 years. Actually 15 if the Secretary of State chooses according to Section. 511c``(2)``(D) subparagraph (B).

Wait! Wait! There is more. We haven't finished the 104 Congress and the 105th is already working hard. Okay. You've had enough. You don't want to hear anymore of their laws? Maybe you believe the Rapture bus is coming to your house. But what if it doesn't?

Not to worry. You have the Constitution to protect you. The Feds can't force the States. Right. Right?

In 1997, the United States Supreme Court ruled, in the Case of "Sheriffs Richard Mack and Jay Printz vs. The United States," that Congress cannot compel the states to enforce a federal law. The Court concluded that:

"Congress cannot compel the States to enact or enforce a federal regulatory program. ... The Federal Government may neither issue directives requiring the States to address particular problems, nor command the States' officers, or those of their political subdivisions, to administer or enforce a federal regulatory program. It matters not whether policy making is involved, and no case-by-case weighing of the burdens or benefits is necessary; such commands are fundamentally incompatible with our constitutional system of dual sovereignty."

Two things are seen here. One is that in the United States, there is dual sovereignty, which means two horns of authority and the second point is that the power of the federal government in the States cannot be forced. It can be sold for that Federal benefit dollar.

When the 1787 Constitution was ready to be submitted to the Governors of the states for ratification, Patrick Henry, the immortal voice for Liberty, lectured against it in the Virginia State House for three weeks, criticizing the Constitution, warning that it had been written" as if good men will take office!" He asked what they would do when evil men took office!" "When evil men take office, the whole gang will be in collusion," he declared, "and they will keep the people in utter ignorance and steal their liberty by ambuscade!" (Entrapment from a concealed position.) He further warned that the new federal government had too much money and too much power and it would consolidate power unto itself, converting us "into one solid empire". And the President with the treaty power would "lead in the treason." [from the writings of lloyd smith]

Tacitus warned that, "In the most corrupt state the most laws ." [Corruptissima republica plurimae leges.]

Redemption

"Redemption is deliverance from the power of an alien dominion and the enjoyment of the resulting freedom. It involves the idea of restoration to one who possesses a more fundamental right or interest. The best example of redemption in the Old Testament was the deliverance of the children of Israel from bondage, from the dominion of the alien power in Egypt." Zondervan's Pictorial Encyclopedia of the Bible

Brother Gregory

-Mark of the Beast http://www.hisholychurch.net/sermon/mark.html

-A detailed study of the Mark of the Beast http://www.hisholychurch.net/sermon/mark2.html

Call no man Father

Alien Power in Egypt

- Nevertheless the foundation of God standeth sure, having this seal, The Lord knoweth them that are his. And, Let every one that nameth the name of Christ depart from iniquity. (2Ti 2:19)- "

http://www.hisholychurch.net/news/article/Section666.html

CorpUSA can now eavesdrop on all Americans reaonably believed to be "outside the United States". That would include those who do what this article suggests [not that I disagree with that, but am pointing out the ramifications that are not being mentioned]. Anyone "outside the United States" ["you are with us, or one of the terrorists"] can have their property seized, anyone who would give you that Biblical cup of water could also have their property seized, without trial or evidence or recourse.

Now I have read that people who claim US citizenship are in effect, according to the law, making themselves imcompetent-to-handle-their-own-affairs wards of the state. Saw on LP [only because someone had a link to an article there that there is a new gun-grabbing bill that would disarm folks for lacking the competence TO CONTRACT FOR ONESELF:

".... One of the concerns that lawyer Alan Korwin, author of Gun Laws of America expressed in a widely distributed email was that the language of the bill refers to "adjudications, determinations and commitments," and that it wasn't clear what "determinations" means. Korwin was concerned that any doctor could decide, quite arbitrarily, that you couldn't be trusted with a gun.

But federal regulations define this: "Adjudicated as a mental defective. (a) A determination by a court, board, commission, or other lawful authority that a person, as a result of marked subnormal intelligence, or mental illness, incompetency, condition, or disease:

(1) Is a danger to himself or to others; or (2) Lacks the mental capacity to contract or manage his own affairs. (b) The term shall include- (1) A finding of insanity by a court in a criminal case; and (2) Those persons found incompetent to stand trial or found not guilty by reason of lack of mental responsibility pursuant to articles 50a and 72b of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, 10 U.S.C. 850a, 876b."5 ..."

Title: HR 2640: Sensible Solution or Trojan Horse?

So they have essentially put us in a Catch-22. We can come out of the "United States" and not be able to get a job, and hence have food and shelter; or stay in and have our 2nd Amendment rights legislated away by deceptive legalese. Or do I have it backward, and only those who have CONTRACTED with the government to trade their rights for privileges granted them by CorpUSA's 14th Amendment are the ones who will be able to KEEP their weapons, the others to be declared insane for disagreeing with their government, and be snd stripped of their weapons.

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I know this is a spiritual battle for the kingdom of God on earth.

Here's another article....

UCC Redemption vs. JC Redemption

".... There is only one nation whose king has not joined with the New World Order of Rome and yet is recognized by that order. The Kingdom of God on earth. They have proclaimed His Kingdom in an official document nailed on the cross and sealed in blood and renewed in modern Law. If they back out now then their own blood is forfeited. They have a blood debt to the kingdom of God on earth.

The best example of redemption is Jesus Christ. You are redeemed in His Kingdom when you expatriate from the one you are in and repatriate to His.

Moses by adoption became the heir to the house of Pharaoh and therefore had title to the household of Pharaoh. When he said let my people go he was talking about his property. Moses did not want to rule over the people but set them free within the limits they could endure. This was not unlike Abraham when he "exited" Haran and built his alter of earth, adamic clay.

Abraham had gone from, exited, the Indus Valley to Ur, Ur to Haran and finally expatriated when his father simply started another UCC authoritarian system in Haran. Moses Expatriated. He left his fathers family.

Israel was a Theocratic Republic with individual patriarchal families at its core until the people went under a King. The Israelites expatriated again under Rehoboam. The Kingdom of Judah became the remnant of the Kingdom of God on earth under the Parens Patria of the House of David.

Jesus was the Highest son of David and therefore king of Judea. He was proclaimed by the people and by Rome which the Kingdom of Judea had invited into the country for the sole purpose of making such decisions. Jesus was a King according to the World Order then and now. He would not appeal to Rome, treaty with it or submit to its authority and neither would his followers which included at first of tens of thousands of those citizens of Judea who followed the way of Jesus. They then spread out through out all the nations.

Jesus appointed ministers to His Kingdom. "And I appoint unto you a kingdom, as my Father hath appointed unto me;" Luke 22:29. They were not like the rulers and princes of the gentiles (nations). They could not exercise authority one over the other but were true servants, clerks of the Kingdom. These ministers and clerks spread a faith that created a dark age for tyrants.

There had been a split in the kingdom. Those that followed Jesus were the true Kingdom of God on earth, the Kingdom of Heaven which was "at hand". Those that denounced their inheritance by saying they had no king but Caesar were out, barring themselves from the promise.

In the following years this Kingdom of Heaven on earth was spread through out the world. Men were free to choose another king or not. For years Kings and centralized governments were constantly set back on their road to conquest. Why? Because Christianity was offering a new government of Liberty that operated on charity, love and faith through individual responsibility.

It was not like the government of the gentiles that exercised authority one over the other so in history it does not stand out like the dictators, depots and tyrants so well recorded in our public school texts as heroes of civilization. About mid millennium one of these would be Caesar had ventured out of his castle long enough to raise the ardor and contempt of the people. Men marched on his princely lair to teach him that tyranny would not be tolerated. His emissary went to meet this militia of freemen in hopes of negotiating a peace. After several weeks he came back frustrated saying he could make no treaty with their King for they say they are all kings.

Today, in the world, the United Nations and the New World Order recognize the Kingdom of Jesus but they are focusing on the false clerks and ministers who claim to be that Church. This is what happened at the time of Jesus with those who had usurped the priesthood by lies, distortions and the bloodshed of Zacharias and the prophets.

The law of truth was in his mouth, and iniquity was not found in his lips: he walked with me in peace and equity, and did turn many away from iniquity. For the priest's lips should keep knowledge, and they should seek the law at his mouth: for he [is] the messenger of the LORD of hosts. But ye are departed out of the way; ye have caused many to stumble at the law; ye have corrupted the covenant of Levi, saith the LORD of hosts. Therefore have I also made you contemptible and base before all the people, according as ye have not kept my ways, but have been partial in the law. Have we not all one father? hath not one God created us? why do we deal treacherously every man against his brother, by profaning the covenant of our fathers? (Malachi 2:6, 10)

If you come out of the US but continue in the ways of Canaan then you have gained little to nothing. If you use UCC redemption so you can continue to use the numbers of that system then you are still bound. Social Security is a Corban system which Jesus preached against. There is no such system in the Kingdom of Heaven.

And the light of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and the voice of the bridegroom and of the bride shall be heard no more at all in thee: for thy merchants were the great men of the earth; for by thy sorceries were all nations deceived. Revelation 18:23

If a father and mother wish to be cared for in their old age they better start taken care of their children and raising them to be men and women of independence, love, patience and charity. Social Security System is also a Corvee system of statutory labor that Moses had led men out of. Our children are not held in service to them by anything more than our service, and love to them. If you have not rid yourself of the numbers of the system or its nature then you are not free of these systems. If you claim UCC redemption then the debt is on you. To redeem is to take ownership by paying a special price. If UCC redeems you then you must pay the price.

If you are redeemed in the Kingdom of Jesus on earth which is still at hand then His blood, His kingdom and His coverture stands between the armies of Pharaoh and you. The seas will part before you.

We should find out what the Kingdom of Heaven on earth really is all about and what it really looks like and repatriate there for He, Yeshua, has provided our redemption in His Kingdom on earth where in which a real salvation is waiting for our times....."

http://www.hisholychurch.net/sermon/ucc.html

Isaiah - Chapter 52

Isa 52:1 ¶ Awake, awake; put on thy strength, O Zion; put on thy beautiful garments, O JerUSAlem, the holy city: for henceforth there shall no more come into thee the uncircumcised and the unclean.

Isa 52:2 Shake thyself from the dust; arise, [and] sit down, O Jerusalem: loose thyself from the bands of thy neck, O captive daughter of Zion.

Isa 52:3 ¶ For thus saith the LORD, Ye have sold yourselves for nought; and ye shall be redeemed without money.

Isa 52:4 For thus saith the Lord GOD, My people went down aforetime into Egypt to sojourn there; and the Assyrian oppressed them without cause.

Isa 52:5 Now therefore, what have I here, saith the LORD, that my people is taken away for nought? they that rule over them make them to howl, saith the LORD; and my name continually every day [is] blasphemed.

Isa 52:6 Therefore my people shall know my name: therefore [they shall know] in that day that I [am] he that doth speak: behold, [it is] I.......

Isa 52:11 ¶ Depart ye, depart ye, go ye out from thence, touch no unclean [thing]; go ye out of the midst of her; be ye clean, that bear the vessels of the LORD.

Isa 52:12 For ye shall not go out with haste, nor go by flight: for the LORD will go before you; and the God of Israel [will be] your rereward......

http://www.blueletterbible.org/kjv/Isa/Isa052.html#12

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calling David....any thoughts?

AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt  posted on  2007-08-15   14:19:19 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


#3. To: AllTheKings'HorsesWontDoIt (#2)

''Motor vehicle'' means every description of carriage or other contrivance propelled or drawn by mechanical power and used for commercial purposes on the highways in the transportation of passengers, passengers and property, or property or cargo;

A US citizen IS commercial property under admiralty/merchant law. Even without documentation of citizenship, once you have "crossed the bar" in an admiralty, merchant or administrative court of law (wherever the gold fringed flag is displayed) and have pleaded guilty or not guilty in a specific case, you have waived all Constitutional rights. At least that's my understanding and I wish someone could clear it up for me if I'm in error.

RidinShotgun  posted on  2007-08-19   14:52:49 ET  Reply   Trace   Private Reply  


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