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Title: Freedom4um Republic
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Published: Aug 16, 2007
Author: Mister Clean
Post Date: 2007-08-16 14:54:36 by Mister Clean
Keywords: FreeRepublic, idiots
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Comments: 212
When a poster at FreeRepublic posts something negative about Bush they are often labeled a Democrat or a liberal or al-Qaeda or traitor. Over here at Freedom4um, if I say something negative about 9/11 "truth" or the North American Union conspiracy, I am labeled a Republican, neocon, Bush shill or traitor. (Freepers, LP'ers and people who post on this site love to sling the word "traitor" around.) Fundamentally, there is really no difference between the typical Bush supporting Freeper and some posters on this site as the example above illustrates. There is not one post from me anywhere in support of Bush or Bush policy but that doesn't stop certain people from calling me a Bush supporter! That is EXACTLY the same kind of stupidity found on FreeRepublic. There are posters here who are just as stupid and lazy as Freepers. They cling to their beliefs just as fiercely as Freepers and go into attack mode whenever those beliefs are challenged. They are as defensive and as juvenile and as self-righteous as Freepers. They behave exactly like Freepers. This site should be renamed to Freedom4um Republic.
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#51. To: honway (#47)
Uh, yeah.
There's no need to remind you of your insecurities.
Buchanan, Perot, Paul...those guys were absolutely correct about NAFTA. Why do you insist on ridiculing people with much better track records than the people they present evidence against? Now that I put it that way, you are prolly a pederast shill, they must have pictures of you defaming newborns at the national zoo or something.
" Junk is the ideal product... the ultimate merchandise. No sales talk necessary. The client will crawl through a sewer and beg to buy." - William S Burroughs
In other words, you feel superior to typical Americans.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
I get a lot of laughs from them. Were you laughing when Lt.Col Tony Shaffer told the world Operation Able Danger identified Atta and three other reported hijackers in 2000, and Clinton Administration lawyers told military personnel to pretend the hijackers did not exist? Were you laughing when the man that encouraged Lt. Col Shaffer to go public,Congressman Kurt Weldon, paid the price for truth with his job?
Several hundred years ago people really believed in witches who practiced black magic, so they ostracised, scapegoated and ultimately murdered them. The same psychology animates Freepers who are convinced those who do not believe as they do are in league with the devil. The same psychology also animates Truthers who believe in black magic (remote-controlled airplanes, explosives in towers, hundreds of brilliant psychopaths, unlimited funds, etc). The difference is that Freepers have chosen to hate Clinton, whereas Truthers have chosen to hate Bush. Ultimately, the only difference between them is who they have chosen to hate and blame.
“When I am the weaker, I ask you for my freedom, because that is your principle; but when I am the stronger, I take away your freedom, because that is my principle.”-Louis Veuillot
..yeah that was a real knee slapper..
He doesn't care about that, see? Facts are for losers, it's all about feeling good about yourself. :)
" Junk is the ideal product... the ultimate merchandise. No sales talk necessary. The client will crawl through a sewer and beg to buy." - William S Burroughs
Well yeah I guess that is a worthy cause. NAFTA did not create a North American Union. There is ZERO action being taken in Congress to bring about a political/economic union of Canada, the US and Mexico. ZERO. And there's not gonna be any NAU without action in Congress. Period. If you believe otherwise, you're just another conspiracy nut.
Ah, shit, let's drink to something else. Let's drink to fucking. Yeah, say, "Here's to your fuck, Frank."
" Junk is the ideal product... the ultimate merchandise. No sales talk necessary. The client will crawl through a sewer and beg to buy." - William S Burroughs
No shit? How many points was that?
" Junk is the ideal product... the ultimate merchandise. No sales talk necessary. The client will crawl through a sewer and beg to buy." - William S Burroughs
I guess the concept of incrementalism is lost on you.
Not superior but certainly more rational. Lots of Americans LOVE to hype everything up. I'm just not one of those Americans.
ROFLMAO!!
..obviously
Were you laughing when the man that encouraged Lt. Col Shaffer to go public,Congressman Kurt Weldon, paid the price for truth with his job? "Able Danger" was a lot of hot air.
Ultimately, the only difference between them is who they have chosen to hate and blame. Agreed.
oh? Do tell..
The idea that there is a secret agenda to incrementally create a political/economic union between Canada, the US and Mexico is absurd. The EU was formed over several decades out in the open. People knew for a long time what the plan was. They knew the timetable. If there is ever a serious effort undertaken to create a NAU, we will know about it.
Speaking of stupidity. I remember your posts at FR.
Do you think it's wrong to hate Hitler or Stalin?
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Funny. You claim to be an American. And then you say things that are most unusual for an American to say.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
He also does his share of hyping.
" Junk is the ideal product... the ultimate merchandise. No sales talk necessary. The client will crawl through a sewer and beg to buy." - William S Burroughs
In a particularly dramatic scene in Weldon's book, Countdown to Terror, the Pennsylvania Republican described personally handing to then-Deputy National Security Adviser Steve Hadley, just after Sept. 11, an Able Danger chart produced in 1999 identifying Atta. But Weldon told TIME he's no longer certain Atta's name was on that original document. http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1093694,00.html
That's a neat trick considering I never posted there.
I think if you want to hate men who have been dead for years, you go right ahead.
There is nothing unusual about commenting on the behavior of Americans.
NOW this worthless, piece of sh*t thread is getting somewhere...
Why? The idea of the government secretly testing things on an unknowing population is absurd too but they have done it. Several times I might add. And the concept of a large economic block to counter the EU is an attractive one. There is even a push to form one in Asia. Europe was more socialist to start with. Can't be done that way here. Even you can see the opposition to it is insurmountable. Secretly is the only way to do it. If you are a government bent on implementing an unpopular policy how would you go about doing it? And I'm sure that government elites believe they know better than the great unwashed.
It's much more usual for a foreigner, who sees our common characteristics, than for an American, who is more likely to see our differences.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Tell me, how are they going to secretly replace the currencies of 3 nations with a new one?
Since I don't indulge in the typical American pastime of blowing things out of proportion, I sometimes feel like a foreigner.
What am I a mind reader now? That's later on in the process anyway. Pay attention to what they are doing now and where that can lead. By the time we get to the currency problem it will be too late and what ever argument they do use will seem logical at the time. This is a chess game and they have all of their moves planned out. We are left guessing at the next possible move and countering it.
put a leash around your neck and make you carve printing plates.
" Junk is the ideal product... the ultimate merchandise. No sales talk necessary. The client will crawl through a sewer and beg to buy." - William S Burroughs
Weldon was never a member of the Able Danger Operation. http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=59503&Disp=1#C1 The intelligence officer recalled carrying documents to the offices of Able Danger, which was being run by the Special Operations Command, headquartered in Tampa, FL. The documents included a photo of Mohammed Atta supplied by the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service and described Atta’s relationship with Osama bin Laden. The officer was very disappointed when lawyers working for Special Ops decided that anyone holding a green card had to be granted essentially the same legal protections as any U.S. citizen. Thus, the information Able Danger had amassed about the only terrorist cell they had located inside the United States could not be shared with the FBI, the lawyers concluded. “We were directed to take those 3M yellow stickers and place them over the faces of Atta and the other terrorists and pretend they didn’t exist,” the intelligence officer told GSN.
The answer is that there is absolutely no way the powers that be can secretly change the currencies of 3 nations. IF, and its a mighty big IF, there is to ever be a common currency for North America we will know its coming long before it arrives because it will be done out in the open just as the EURO was created with the full knowledge of Europeans.
Gee, why did the whole Able Danger thing fizzle out? Oh I know, it must have been part of the overall 9/11 conspiracy.
Good catch, A! His "out of population" characterizations are also common to 99% of Federales [delusions of grandeur] and most younger squirrel LEOs. He speaks as if he knows what we say is true, however he seeks to honestly see the psychological rationale so it can be obfuscated more completely in the future by his watchers.. Which is why questions and repudiations spew forth with no information to back up his own dogma. IOW, he sounds like a high school psychology research project, i.e. an agent provocateur.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition You are effete snob!
" Junk is the ideal product... the ultimate merchandise. No sales talk necessary. The client will crawl through a sewer and beg to buy." - William S Burroughs
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#52. To: Dakmar (#49)
Are you gonna drag out the "Dakmar is jealous of Jews" slides? That would be classic.
#53. To: Mister Clean (#50)
I don't take people who screech about a "North American Union" seroiusly
#54. To: Mister Clean (#50)
In other words, don't take the typical American tendency to exaggerate everything seriously.
#55. To: Mister Clean (#44)
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I don't hate "truthers."
#56. To: Mister Clean (#0)
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Fundamentally, there is really no difference between the typical Bush supporting Freeper and some posters on this site as the example above illustrates.
#57. To: honway (#55)
Were you laughing when Lt.Col Tony Shaffer told the world Operation Able Danger identified Atta and three other reported hijackers in 2000, and Clinton Administration lawyers told military personnel to pretend the hijackers did not exist?
#58. To: honway (#55)
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#59. To: Dakmar (#45)
We needed that Daquiri machine!
#60. To: Dakmar (#53)
Buchanan, Perot, Paul...those guys were absolutely correct about NAFTA. Why do you insist on ridiculing people with much better track records than the people they present evidence against?
#61. To: YertleTurtle (#56)
The difference is that Freepers have chosen to hate Clinton, whereas Truthers have chosen to hate Bush.
#62. To: Mister Clean (#60)
NAFTA did not create a North American Union.
#63. To: Mister Clean (#60)
#64. To: aristeides (#54)
In other words, you feel superior to typical Americans.
#65. To: Dakmar (#61)
Ah, shit, let's drink to something else. Let's drink to fucking. Yeah, say, "Here's to your fuck, Frank."
#66. To: farmfriend (#63)
#67. To: Dakmar (#61)
Let's drink to fucking. Yeah, say, "Here's to your fuck, Frank."
#68. To: honway (#55)
Were you laughing when Lt.Col Tony Shaffer told the world Operation Able Danger identified Atta and three other reported hijackers in 2000, and Clinton Administration lawyers told military personnel to pretend the hijackers did not exist?
#69. To: YertleTurtle (#56)
The difference is that Freepers have chosen to hate Clinton, whereas Truthers have chosen to hate Bush.
#70. To: Mister Clean (#68)
"Able Danger" was a lot of hot air.
#71. To: farmfriend (#63)
I guess the concept of incrementalism is lost on you.
#72. To: Mister Clean (#0)
That is EXACTLY the same kind of stupidity found on FreeRepublic.
#73. To: Mister Clean (#69)
#74. To: Mister Clean (#64)
Lots of Americans LOVE to hype everything up. I'm just not one of those Americans.
#75. To: aristeides (#74)
#76. To: Zipporah (#70)
oh? Do tell..
#77. To: Cynicom (#72)
Speaking of stupidity. I remember your posts at FR.
#78. To: aristeides (#73)
Do you think it's wrong to hate Hitler or Stalin?
#79. To: aristeides (#74)
Funny. You claim to be an American. And then you say things that are most unusual for an American to say.
#80. To: Dakmar (#61)
Ah, shit, let's drink to something else. Let's drink to fucking. Yeah, say, "Here's to your fuck, Frank."
Remember...G-d saved more animals than people on the ark. www.siameserescue.org
#81. To: Mister Clean (#71)
The idea that there is a secret agenda to incrementally create a political/economic union between Canada, the US and Mexico is absurd.
The EU was formed over several decades out in the open. People knew for a long time what the plan was. They knew the timetable.
#82. To: Mister Clean (#79)
There is nothing unusual about commenting on the behavior of Americans.
#83. To: farmfriend (#81)
Why? The idea of the government secretly testing things on an unknowing population is absurd too but they have done it. Several times I might add. And the concept of a large economic block to counter the EU is an attractive one. There is even a push to form one in Asia.
#84. To: aristeides (#82)
It's much more usual for a foreigner, who sees our common characteristics, than for an American, who is more likely to see our differences.
#85. To: Mister Clean (#83)
Tell me, how are they going to secretly replace the currencies of 3 nations with a new one?
#86. To: Mister Clean (#83)
Tell me, how are they going to secretly replace the currencies of 3 nations with a new one?
#87. To: Mister Clean (#76)
But Weldon told TIME he's no longer certain Atta's name was on that original document.
#88. To: farmfriend (#85)
What am I a mind reader now? That's later on in the process anyway. Pay attention to what they are doing now and where that can lead. By the time we get to the currency problem it will be too late and what ever argument they do use will seem logical at the time.
#89. To: honway (#87)
“We were directed to take those 3M yellow stickers and place them over the faces of Atta and the other terrorists and pretend they didn’t exist,” the intelligence officer told GSN.
#90. To: aristeides, jethro tull, Psych 101, Kleenex, christine, FRaudians, FReudians (#82)
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It's much more usual for a foreigner, who sees our common characteristics, than for an American, who is more likely to see our differences.
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#91. To: Mister Clean (#89)
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