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Published: Aug 16, 2007
Author: Mister Clean
Post Date: 2007-08-16 14:54:36 by Mister Clean
Keywords: FreeRepublic, idiots
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When a poster at FreeRepublic posts something negative about Bush they are often labeled a Democrat or a liberal or al-Qaeda or traitor. Over here at Freedom4um, if I say something negative about 9/11 "truth" or the North American Union conspiracy, I am labeled a Republican, neocon, Bush shill or traitor. (Freepers, LP'ers and people who post on this site love to sling the word "traitor" around.) Fundamentally, there is really no difference between the typical Bush supporting Freeper and some posters on this site as the example above illustrates. There is not one post from me anywhere in support of Bush or Bush policy but that doesn't stop certain people from calling me a Bush supporter! That is EXACTLY the same kind of stupidity found on FreeRepublic. There are posters here who are just as stupid and lazy as Freepers. They cling to their beliefs just as fiercely as Freepers and go into attack mode whenever those beliefs are challenged. They are as defensive and as juvenile and as self-righteous as Freepers. They behave exactly like Freepers. This site should be renamed to Freedom4um Republic.
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#70. To: Mister Clean (#68)
oh? Do tell..
The idea that there is a secret agenda to incrementally create a political/economic union between Canada, the US and Mexico is absurd. The EU was formed over several decades out in the open. People knew for a long time what the plan was. They knew the timetable. If there is ever a serious effort undertaken to create a NAU, we will know about it.
Speaking of stupidity. I remember your posts at FR.
Do you think it's wrong to hate Hitler or Stalin?
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Funny. You claim to be an American. And then you say things that are most unusual for an American to say.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
He also does his share of hyping.
" Junk is the ideal product... the ultimate merchandise. No sales talk necessary. The client will crawl through a sewer and beg to buy." - William S Burroughs
In a particularly dramatic scene in Weldon's book, Countdown to Terror, the Pennsylvania Republican described personally handing to then-Deputy National Security Adviser Steve Hadley, just after Sept. 11, an Able Danger chart produced in 1999 identifying Atta. But Weldon told TIME he's no longer certain Atta's name was on that original document. http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1093694,00.html
That's a neat trick considering I never posted there.
I think if you want to hate men who have been dead for years, you go right ahead.
There is nothing unusual about commenting on the behavior of Americans.
NOW this worthless, piece of sh*t thread is getting somewhere...
Why? The idea of the government secretly testing things on an unknowing population is absurd too but they have done it. Several times I might add. And the concept of a large economic block to counter the EU is an attractive one. There is even a push to form one in Asia. Europe was more socialist to start with. Can't be done that way here. Even you can see the opposition to it is insurmountable. Secretly is the only way to do it. If you are a government bent on implementing an unpopular policy how would you go about doing it? And I'm sure that government elites believe they know better than the great unwashed.
It's much more usual for a foreigner, who sees our common characteristics, than for an American, who is more likely to see our differences.
To reason, indeed, he was not in the habit of attending. His mode of arguing, if it is to be so called, was one not uncommon among dull and stubborn persons, who are accustomed to be surrounded by their inferiors. He asserted a proposition; and, as often as wiser people ventured respectfully to show that it was erroneous, he asserted it again, in exactly the same words, and conceived that, by doing so, he at once disposed of all objections. - Macaulay, "History of England," Vol. 1, Chapter 6, on James II.
Tell me, how are they going to secretly replace the currencies of 3 nations with a new one?
Since I don't indulge in the typical American pastime of blowing things out of proportion, I sometimes feel like a foreigner.
What am I a mind reader now? That's later on in the process anyway. Pay attention to what they are doing now and where that can lead. By the time we get to the currency problem it will be too late and what ever argument they do use will seem logical at the time. This is a chess game and they have all of their moves planned out. We are left guessing at the next possible move and countering it.
put a leash around your neck and make you carve printing plates.
" Junk is the ideal product... the ultimate merchandise. No sales talk necessary. The client will crawl through a sewer and beg to buy." - William S Burroughs
Weldon was never a member of the Able Danger Operation. http://freedom4um.com/cgi-bin/readart.cgi?ArtNum=59503&Disp=1#C1 The intelligence officer recalled carrying documents to the offices of Able Danger, which was being run by the Special Operations Command, headquartered in Tampa, FL. The documents included a photo of Mohammed Atta supplied by the U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service and described Atta’s relationship with Osama bin Laden. The officer was very disappointed when lawyers working for Special Ops decided that anyone holding a green card had to be granted essentially the same legal protections as any U.S. citizen. Thus, the information Able Danger had amassed about the only terrorist cell they had located inside the United States could not be shared with the FBI, the lawyers concluded. “We were directed to take those 3M yellow stickers and place them over the faces of Atta and the other terrorists and pretend they didn’t exist,” the intelligence officer told GSN.
The answer is that there is absolutely no way the powers that be can secretly change the currencies of 3 nations. IF, and its a mighty big IF, there is to ever be a common currency for North America we will know its coming long before it arrives because it will be done out in the open just as the EURO was created with the full knowledge of Europeans.
Gee, why did the whole Able Danger thing fizzle out? Oh I know, it must have been part of the overall 9/11 conspiracy.
Good catch, A! His "out of population" characterizations are also common to 99% of Federales [delusions of grandeur] and most younger squirrel LEOs. He speaks as if he knows what we say is true, however he seeks to honestly see the psychological rationale so it can be obfuscated more completely in the future by his watchers.. Which is why questions and repudiations spew forth with no information to back up his own dogma. IOW, he sounds like a high school psychology research project, i.e. an agent provocateur.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition You are effete snob!
" Junk is the ideal product... the ultimate merchandise. No sales talk necessary. The client will crawl through a sewer and beg to buy." - William S Burroughs
Yawn.
You know you can't resist fruit flavored pudding.
" Junk is the ideal product... the ultimate merchandise. No sales talk necessary. The client will crawl through a sewer and beg to buy." - William S Burroughs
To all: I like this Mister Clean character. If it were not for him I would have likely never posted the original story that broke the Able Danger cover-up on this forum. It is on FR,it is on LP, and it is here, regardless of what happens to the original archives.That is a good thing for individuals interested in the truth concerning 9/11.Often, it is very small things that make a difference. I once saved an image of molten steel at Ground Zero on my hard drive. After the image disappeared from the net, an individual working with Dr. Jones found the image I hosted on LP.After Dr. Jones included the image in his first paper,the image went viral on the net. Keep up the good work Mister Clean. History may benefit from your efforts to attack those pursuing the truth. You inspire others to post what might otherwise disappear from the net.
Gee, why did the Republican control of Congress fizzle out? Never underestimate the power of an informed electorate.
i'm amused.
It wasn't because of Able Danger, that's for sure.
And that's going to help "wake people up" right?
Kleenex: I think the IRS probably needs to audit you or worse. Goldi: Considering the tone of this article, I think I'm going to take that as a threat to malador... and that's the last one you'll make HERE. Goldi-Lox posted on 2007-06-07 13:51:21 ET Reply Trace Law Enforcement Against Prohibition Do you work for the IRS? Do you enjoy threatening others? What is "or worse?" Come clean Kleenex. I think you're a Fed or just a plain asshole.
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition Kleenex: I think the IRS probably needs to audit you or worse. Goldi: Considering the tone of this article, I think I'm going to take that as a threat to malador... and that's the last one you'll make HERE. Goldi-Lox posted on 2007-06-07 13:51:21 ET Reply Trace Funny stuff, ain't it?
I don't work for the IRS and I've never threatened anyone.
So stop the shell game and tell us what StateInc agency you do work for? Or do you just like playing the big tough guy because you're too small in the privates? Goldi seems to think you've made a threat. Again..what is "or worse?"
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition Everything I posted went right over your head didn't it? You were too busy trying to make your point that you failed to even listen to what I was saying.
No he got it alright. That's called duck! dodge! hide!
Law Enforcement Against Prohibition another useful idiot
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Goldi is a moron.
uh...yes, it may very well. it's information that readers may not get otherwise.
I use the currency because it's the best example of why any kind of "union" will not be secret. I would agree with you that unifying the 3 nations would have to be done in stages, or if you prefer, incrementally. But it will happen out in the open. Everyone will know about it. There will be legislation, hearing, studies and so on. It is impossible to integrate the 3 nations in secret.
Goldi is a moron. You dodged every single one of my questions.
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#71. To: farmfriend (#63)
I guess the concept of incrementalism is lost on you.
#72. To: Mister Clean (#0)
That is EXACTLY the same kind of stupidity found on FreeRepublic.
#73. To: Mister Clean (#69)
#74. To: Mister Clean (#64)
Lots of Americans LOVE to hype everything up. I'm just not one of those Americans.
#75. To: aristeides (#74)
#76. To: Zipporah (#70)
oh? Do tell..
#77. To: Cynicom (#72)
Speaking of stupidity. I remember your posts at FR.
#78. To: aristeides (#73)
Do you think it's wrong to hate Hitler or Stalin?
#79. To: aristeides (#74)
Funny. You claim to be an American. And then you say things that are most unusual for an American to say.
#80. To: Dakmar (#61)
Ah, shit, let's drink to something else. Let's drink to fucking. Yeah, say, "Here's to your fuck, Frank."
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#81. To: Mister Clean (#71)
The idea that there is a secret agenda to incrementally create a political/economic union between Canada, the US and Mexico is absurd.
The EU was formed over several decades out in the open. People knew for a long time what the plan was. They knew the timetable.
#82. To: Mister Clean (#79)
There is nothing unusual about commenting on the behavior of Americans.
#83. To: farmfriend (#81)
Why? The idea of the government secretly testing things on an unknowing population is absurd too but they have done it. Several times I might add. And the concept of a large economic block to counter the EU is an attractive one. There is even a push to form one in Asia.
#84. To: aristeides (#82)
It's much more usual for a foreigner, who sees our common characteristics, than for an American, who is more likely to see our differences.
#85. To: Mister Clean (#83)
Tell me, how are they going to secretly replace the currencies of 3 nations with a new one?
#86. To: Mister Clean (#83)
Tell me, how are they going to secretly replace the currencies of 3 nations with a new one?
#87. To: Mister Clean (#76)
But Weldon told TIME he's no longer certain Atta's name was on that original document.
#88. To: farmfriend (#85)
What am I a mind reader now? That's later on in the process anyway. Pay attention to what they are doing now and where that can lead. By the time we get to the currency problem it will be too late and what ever argument they do use will seem logical at the time.
#89. To: honway (#87)
“We were directed to take those 3M yellow stickers and place them over the faces of Atta and the other terrorists and pretend they didn’t exist,” the intelligence officer told GSN.
#90. To: aristeides, jethro tull, Psych 101, Kleenex, christine, FRaudians, FReudians (#82)
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It's much more usual for a foreigner, who sees our common characteristics, than for an American, who is more likely to see our differences.
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#91. To: Mister Clean (#89)
#92. To: Dakmar (#91)
You are effete snob!
#93. To: Mister Clean (#92)
#94. To: All, *9-11* (#87)
#95. To: Mister Clean (#89)
Gee, why did the whole Able Danger thing fizzle out?
#96. To: honway (#94)
Keep up the good work Mister Clean. History may benefit from your efforts to attack those pursuing the truth. You inspire others to post what might otherwise disappear from the net.
#97. To: honway (#95)
Gee, why did the Republican control of Congress fizzle out?
#98. To: honway (#94)
You inspire others to post what might otherwise disappear from the net.
#99. To: christine, all, honway (#96)
124. To: Mister Clean (#74)
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#100. To: All (#99)
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"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#101. To: IndieTX (#99)
124. To: Mister Clean (#74)
#102. To: IndieTX (#100)
Do you work for the IRS? Do you enjoy threatening others? What is "or worse?"
#103. To: Mister Clean (#102)
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I don't work for the IRS and I've never threatened anyone.
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#104. To: Mister Clean (#88)
#105. To: farmfriend (#104)
Everything I posted went right over your head didn't it? You were too busy trying to make your point that you failed to even listen to what I was saying
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
#106. To: honway (#94)
Keep up the good work Mister Clean. History may benefit from your efforts to attack those pursuing the truth. You inspire others to post what might otherwise disappear from the net.
#107. To: IndieTX (#103)
Goldi seems to think you've made a threat.
#108. To: Mister Clean (#98)
And that's going to help "wake people up" right?
#109. To: farmfriend (#104)
Everything I posted went right over your head didn't it? You were too busy trying to make your point that you failed to even listen to what I was saying.
#110. To: Mister Clean (#107)
Goldi seems to think you've made a threat.
"There is no 'legitimate' Corporation by virtue of it's very legal definition and purpose."
-- IndieTx
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