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Title: The rational thinker versus the paranoid
Source: Dr. Kenneth A. Rahn, Sr
URL Source: http://www.kenrahn.com/jfk/conspira ... l_thinker_versus_paranoid.html
Published: Aug 17, 2007
Author: Dr. Kenneth A. Rahn, Sr
Post Date: 2007-08-17 11:09:58 by Mister Clean
Keywords: paranoid, truther, neocons
Views: 781
Comments: 92

The rational thinker versus the paranoid

Presented with the same evidence for a mystery, the rational thinker and the paranoid respond very differently.

The rational thinker	The paranoid
1. Checks the evidence carefully and doesn’t rely on uncertain evidence	1. Grabs onto a few pieces of evidence and defends them inflexibly.
2. Doesn’t care which evidence he must let go.	2. Seemingly irrationally seizes onto something and won’t let go.
3. Seeks a realistic answer in simple and familiar processes.	3. Invokes complex, unrealistic scenarios controlled by powerful forces behind the scenes.
4. Accepts only what he can critically assess (falsifiable ideas).	4. Deals in explanations that can never be critically assessed (unfalsifiable theories).
5. Is willing to live with unresolved explanations for long periods.	5. Demands quick, even immediate explanations.
6. Accepts the roles of chance and human foibles.	6. Invents scenarios when nothing ever goes wrong.
7. Uses same rational approach in the rest of his life.	7. Approaches many other “events” in the same irrational, paranoid way. (i.e., both people are consistent across their lives.)
8. Finds empowering explanations.	8. Feels powerless before these huge forces (victims).
9. Accepts all demonstrated evidence.	9. Will not face evidence that destroys his theory.
10. Is willing to live with some fraction of unexplained or contradictory evidence.	10. Insists on fitting everything into his explanation, often by explaining difficult items as further evidence of conspiracy.
11. Tries to keep everything in proportion.	11. Often seizes single pieces of evidence and blows them out of proportion.
12. Will change ideas a new evidence emerges.	12. Sticks to preconceived notion regardless of new evidence.
13. Open, flexible, empowered, strong.	13. Preconceived, rigid, victimlike, cowardly.

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#13. To: Mister Clean (#0)

A couple of observations here.

You are obviously obsessed with the 911 truth movement. I say this because I see you spending hours on line every day shilling the Republican talking points on this subject. No other proof is necessary. If you doubt me, just call up your posts here.

Given that this dedicated shilling for the GOP side of the arguments exists, and it does, my question is why?

Why should you care if people question what the government tells them? This seems very healtyth to me and I actively encourage it. If the government tells me something, I try to verify it before swallowing it - because I have caught them lying to me in the past. From my perspective, it seems the more eyes on this matter the better. I am very happy to see people questioning every single ascpect of the event. There are some fishey parts of the story.

Are you pushing the theory that the goverment must be trusted in all cases and that fact checking is evil? Or are you worried that this fact checking might injure the Repulbican Party in the upcoming elections - the party you obviously shill for.

Your crap about this just being entertainment is obviously false. You invest too much time and effort in it for that. You lack the sense of irony and humor that others exhibit when they are just having fun. You are obviously dead serious about your shilling.

Give the above, it's pretty clear that you oppose the 911 truth movement because it harms the Republican Party.

...  posted on  2007-08-17   11:56:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

You are obviously obsessed with the 911 truth movement. I say this because I see you spending hours on line every day shilling the Republican talking points on this subject.

So one is either with the "truthers" or against them, eh?

I'm sure you are completely unaware how much you sound like they typical Bush/GOP/neocon moron.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-17   12:02:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Let me give you some advice:

You come from a group that admires scummy dishonesty if it fools the goobers into voting the way you want. But that doesn't sell with the rest of the country. This is why you guys are becoming known as the twenty-eight percenters.

...  posted on  2007-08-17   12:05:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

You come from a group that admires scummy dishonesty if it fools the goobers into voting the way you want. But that doesn't sell with the rest of the country. This is why you guys are becoming known as the twenty-eight percenters.

I have no idea what you're babbling about.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-17   12:07:49 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I have no idea what you're babbling about.

Yes you do.

You just don't have an answer for it. I think you are trying to avoid a discussion on the dishonesty of the GOP noise machine and the general FR style of propaganda. It doesn't bode well for you.

...  posted on  2007-08-17   12:10:09 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I think you are trying to avoid a discussion on the dishonesty of the GOP noise machine and the general FR style of propaganda.

I told you, I'm not a Republican.

Your problem is that you can't deal with independent criticism of idiotic conspiracy theories.

In your small mind, anyone who doubts 9/11 "truth" is a Republican.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-17   12:14:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I told you, I'm not a Republican.

And I told you that no shill worth his salt admits to party affilitation - see the thread above. You ignored this point and tried to run over it as if it were very inconvenient to you. You do agree that no shill would ever admit to being a member of the party he shills for don't you? Doesn't O'Reilly claim to be an Indpenedent even though his Republican voter registration circulates on the internet?

Your problem is that you can't deal with independent criticism of idiotic conspiracy theories.

You know you can't post a quote to support this and I would go so far as to say this is the third knowing, bald faced lie that you have pushed on this thread alone.

Read my post above. I said I approve of people fact checking the government. I didn't favor any result in the fact checking. But you know this. You just don't want other people reading the thread to know this.

In your small mind, anyone who doubts 9/11 "truth" is a Republican.

So again I win the argument. The cornered wingnut once more begins hurling feces when argument fails him. Let me add that this too is a knowing, bald faced lie. You can't post a link to back up your freeper style smear here. But you know that.

As you know, and as you don't want others who read this thread to know, I commented on the motives that you - you and not the world at large - exhibit in your obesssive quest against the 911 people questioning the goverment. But you know this. You just don't want others to know this.

...  posted on  2007-08-17   12:28:21 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

You know you can't post a quote to support this

I don't need to repost your quotes accusing me of being a Republican shill because I challenge some stupid conspiracy theory, they're all over this thread.

That fact that you knee-jerk label me a Republican shill because I dare to ridicule 9/11 "truth" is all the evidence necessary to conclude you have a very narrow mind.

You equate criticism of 9/11 "truth" with being a Republican and that's just plain stupid.

You characterize point #2 from the table above...

2. Seemingly irrationally seizes onto something and won’t let go.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-17   12:35:00 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

My opinion is that you are a Republican shill.

My reason for thinking this is your very serious and determined attack on the 911 truthers. And your dishonesty about this just being a game for you - and I've supported this further up on the thread.

I am also of the opinion that you are a Freeper. I have two reasons for thinking this: First, you are very dishonest in your arguments. You will lie at the drop of a hat as long as the lie furthers your cause. Freepers and hard core Republicans are the only people I have ever seen embrace this sort of pathological dishonesty. You have been caught out in lies several times on this thread alone. Secondly, when pressed with an inconvenient fact, you immediately go personal and begin smearing like a Fox News shill - or a freeper. (Note that I've highlighted your Freeper style smear tactics at several points on the thread above - so please don't start your "quote me" game .... again.)

The only other thing lacking in your Republican credentials is a gay lover.

So if it looks like a duck, walks like a ducka nd quacks like a duck, I am disinclined to believe your wild conspiracy theories about the duck being some sort of independent thinker.

...  posted on  2007-08-17   12:43:13 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

My opinion is that you are a Republican shill.

My reason for thinking this is your very serious and determined attack on the 911 truthers.

Yes, I know.

Your narrow mind equates criticism of 911 "truth" with being a Republican.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-17   12:46:15 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Your narrow mind equates criticism of 911 "truth" with being a Republican.

I offered some good support for my position. You respond by hurling monkey shit like a Freeper or other species of Republican shill.

Thank you for proving my point.

By the way, as I noted above, your mischaracterization of my position here is a bald faced lie. A knowing, deliberate bald faced lie on your part.

...  posted on  2007-08-17   12:49:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

I offere some good support for my position.

You've only offered your opinion.

An opinion that drips from a very narrow mind.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-17   12:51:33 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

You've only offered your opinion.

Another mischaracterization that amounts to a knowing, deliberate, bald faced lie.

I have supported every statement I made above.

But you know that. You just don't want others to know that.

...  posted on  2007-08-17   12:52:45 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Another mischaracterization that amounts to a knowing, deliberate, bald faced lie.

You say I'm a Republican shill.

That's your narrow minded opinion.

Are you so deluded that you consider your opinion to be fact?

No wonder you believe in conspiracy theories.

Mister Clean  posted on  2007-08-17   12:54:47 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

Are you so deluded that you consider your opinion to be fact?

Not deluded. I believe it for the reasons I've cited above.

But these reasons are exactly what you are trying to obfuscate here with your Freeper style attack.

Instead of throwing shit - like a Freeper or other sort of GOP shill - why don't you attack the reasons I've cited for my opinion?

...  posted on  2007-08-17   12:58:55 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

why don't you attack the reasons I've cited for my opinion?

He does't do that. He won't answer your questions or address any of your points. He bitches about this place being like FR but it only seems to be that way when he is around.

farmfriend  posted on  2007-08-17   13:02:25 ET  Reply   Untrace   Trace   Private Reply  

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